[1. CALL TO ORDER.]
[2. MINUTES.]
[3. INDIAN PINES RECREATION AUTHORITY.]
[4. COX ROAD WIDENING PROJECT STRIPING DISCUSSION]
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>> SPEAKER: NORMALLY THE COUNCIL DOES NOT CONSIDER ITEMS THAT WOULD GENERALLY AMEND A THE CONTRACT UNLESS STAFF IS BRINGING IT FORWARD. THIS IS A MATTER OF POLICY IN THIS INSTANCE. TO DATE MYSELF QUITE A BIT TO MY INTERN DAYS, I DRAFTED THE ORIGINAL AUBURN BICYCLE PLANET THAT WENT INTO AUBURN 2020 AS THE STAFF GIGGLES A BIT.
I WAS AN INTERN AT THE TIME BUT THAT DOES THIS POLICY WAS BORN OUT OF THAT DOCUMENT WAY BACK IN THE LATE '90S AS WE ADOPTED IT FOR AUBURN 2020. THAT WAS ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION AS PART OF THE PLAN. THAT IS THE ONLY ADOPTED BIKE PLAN THAT WE HAVE TODAY. THERE ARE OTHER ITERATIONS SUCH AS THERE IS A BIKE PATH MAP ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE THAT HAS PLANNED ROADS FOR BIKE LANES AND BIKE PATHS AND MULTIUSE PATHS.
ALL OF OUR PATHS ARE ON THERE. WE HAVE SOME REFERENCES AND MANUALS AND THE 2017 CITYWIDE TRAFFIC STUDY.
DON'T CONFUSE THE DATE OF 2017 WITH WHAT IT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU WHICH WAS MAY OF 2019 IS WHEN THE COUNCIL SAW THAT.
IN A WORKSHOP STYLE PRESENTATION.
IT ALSO HAS A MAP THAT RESIDES ALSO WITH A CONNECTIVITY PLAN IS BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL EITHER. THAT GOES WITH THE GREENWAY'S MASTER PLAN THAT I ANTICIPATE FOR THE AUBURN 2040 PROCESS THAT SEVERAL COMMITTEES WILL TAKE UP AND FINAL DECISIONS ABOUT THOSE PLANS WILL BE MADE AT THAT TIME. THIS IS FALLING IN A VERY INTERESTING SPOT WHERE WE CALL THIS AN INFORMAL POLICY.
STAFF USES A NUMBER OF THOSE DOCUMENTS TO DRIVE WHAT WE CALL GUIDING DOCUMENTS AND THEY DRIVE CAPITOL PROJECT DECISIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL AND SO WHEN WE ARE TYPICALLY DESIGNING ROAD WIDENING'S OR NEW ROADS SUCH AS THE RICHLAND ROAD
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CONNECTOR, WE DESIGN BIKE LANES IN AS PART OF THAT PROCESS.THIS IS WHY PROCEDURALLY THIS IS UNUSUAL.
PROCEDURALLY WHAT WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR IN A RESOLUTION IS JUST A WAIVER OF WHAT WE WOULD TERM AN INTERNAL POLICY.
THE COUNCIL HAS NEVER ADOPTED AN EXACT POLICY THAT SAID WE MUST PUT BIKE LANES ON COX ROAD. WHAT IT SAYS AS WE WILL TRY TO INSTALL VARIOUS BIKE CLASS. THAT IS THE POLICY THAT STAFF HAS FOLLOWED IN MY ENTIRE TENURE WITH THE CITY.
THE COUNCIL HAS HAD ROBUST DISCUSSIONS OVER THE YEARS ABOUT EXTRA EXPENSE INVOLVED WITH THIS AND SO ON, BUT CURRENTLY TRACKING WE HAVE HAD NO OTHER DIRECTION FROM THIS COUNCIL SO THAT WAS DESIGNED IN AS PART OF A NORMAL PROCESS.
I THINK THERE WAS ALSO SOME ISSUES RAISED THAT WE HAD MANY PUBLIC MEETINGS ABOUT THE COX ROAD WIDENING.
WE HAD PUBLIC MEETINGS ABOUT THE COX AND WHY ARE ROUNDABOUT AND CITY ENGINEER FRASER, DID WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT THAT? WE HAD INFORMATION OUT ABOUT THE COX AND WHY ARE ROUNDABOUT. THERE WAS -- YOU SAW IN THE OPELIKA ROAD CONSTRUCTION PHASE UNDER WAY NOW.
WE HAD DROPPED BY PUBLIC MEETINGS WERE THE PUBLIC COULD DROP BY AND PUT INPUT. THERE WAS NOT IS ABOUT COX ROAD.
BUT THE REASON THEY WERE NOT IS IT'S A NORMAL PART OF OUR DESIGN PLANS TO ALSO INCLUDE IT AND WE WEREN'T DOING A BIG MODIFICATION JUST A SLIGHT WIDENING. I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT IN THE CITY ENGINEER WILL CORRECT ME IF COX ROAD WAS EXTREMELY NARROW PRIOR TO THE WIDENING. SOME PEOPLE HAVE ASKED WHY DID YOU WIDEN IT AND NOT MAKE IT FOR LANES OR SIX LANES OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. PART OF IT IT WAS VERY NARROW, IT WAS AN OLD COUNTRY RODE NOT DESIGNED BY THE CITY.
IT HAD DIFFERENT CURVES AND ELEVATIONS THAT DON'T MEET CURRENT ENGINEERING STANDARDS. SO PART OF THAT WAS TO IMPROVE A VARIETY OF THINGS ABOUT COX ROAD AND MAKE TRAVEL ON IT MORE EASY.
I KIND OF LIKEN IT TO U.S. HIGHWAY 280 WHAT YOU HAVE THE OLD SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT WAS NEVER MODIFIED AND THE NEW SITE THAT WAS FLATTENED OUT AND A LITTLE MORE SPACIOUS AND YOU COULD SEE BETTER AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS PROJECT IS FOR.
ONE OF THE OTHER IMPORTANT THINGS IS STAFF HAS INFORMED YOU A FEW TIMES THAT THERE IS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS PERFORMED AND IT DIDN'T WARRANT PUTTING IN WHAT WE CALL IN A DRAFT RESOLUTION WE CALL A TWO-WAY LEFT TURN LANE.
YOU CALL IT SUICIDE LANE, MULTIDIRECTIONAL TURN LANE WORK SAME THING TO A LEFT TURN LANE. THE NOTION IS, THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC STUDY AS YOU KNOW WHEN WE ARE CONSIDERING A NEW DEVELOPMENT. A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE CITY ENGINEER ENGINEERS IS A STUDY IN WHICH SHE AND HER TEAM ARE EVALUATING A LOT OF DATA THAT WE HAVE GATHERED WHEN DESIGNING A ROAD TO DETERMINE WHAT ALL NEEDS TO GO INTO THAT DESIGN.
IN THIS CASE WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN OUR STUDY WAS ACCIDENT DATA SUPPORTING THE NEED FOR THE CENTER LANE AT THIS TIME.
THE NOTION WAS THAT THEY WOULD BE 26-FOOT BIKE LANES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD BUT AT OTHER -- SOME POINT IN TIME IF ENGINEERING DATA SUPPORTED A CHANGE THAN THE BIKE LANES WILL GO AWAY AND THE CENTER TURN LANE WOULD BE THERE.
THE OTHER UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE WITH THIS IS WE TALK A LOT ABOUT TRAFFIC WARRANTS. CITY ENGINEER WILL AGAIN CONFIRM THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS SAYING THE RIGHT THING IS FOR A CENTER TURN LANE OR TO A LEFT TURN LANE YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A WARRANT TO INSTALL ONE, UNLIKE A FOUR-WAY STOP, A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, OTHER THINGS. THIS IS ONE WHERE YOU WANT TO INSTALL ONE WHEN IT WARRANTS FOR SURE BECAUSE IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE, BUT YOU DON'T -- THERE IS NO -- YOU ARE NOT VIOLATING SOME MAJOR STANDARD BY INSULTING WHAT AHEAD OF TIME.
IT'S KIND OF A CHOICE SITUATION. IN THIS INSTANCE THE STAFF IS CHOOSING TO ADVANCE PLANS AS IS OUR NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS THAT MET ALL OF THOSE GUIDING DOCUMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
THERE IS NO FORMAL POLICY AT THE COUNCIL THAT I'M AWARE OF OR ANY STAFF MEMBER THAT IS SITTING IN THIS ROOM THAT IS AWARE OF
OTHERWISE. >> SPEAKER: SO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE AND A DISCUSSION LATER ON IN THE AGENDA, COUNCILMAN DAWSON MENTIONED, WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN HERE WITH THE COUNCIL? WHAT MOTIONS DO WE NEED TO MAKE.
>> SPEAKER: WITH COUNSEL PROCEDURES YOU WOULD HAVE TO WISH SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO PLACE A RESOLUTION ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA UNDER OTHER BUSINESS IN ORDER TO DO THAT IT WOULD TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
I DO HAVE A DRAFT RESOLUTION PREPARED IN THE EVENT THAT YOU GUYS TO TO DO THAT. YOU WOULD TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND. YOU HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND THEN WHEN YOU VOTE IT TAKES TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T TO ADOPT WHICH WOULD MEAN SIX.
THERE ARE INTERVIEW PRESENT, YOU ROUND UP AS ROBERT ORDER, 5.33, DOING THE MATH AND I'M NOT A MATH MAJOR -- YOU ROUND UP TO IT WOULD TAKE SIX PEOPLE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE TO MOVE IT TO AN AGENDA ITEM. OTHERWISE THE CITY MANAGER WOULD HAVE NO REASON TO PLACE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT
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COUNSEL DIRECTION. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> SPEAKER: I MOVED TO SUSPEND THE RULING (INDISCERNIBLE).
>> SPEAKER: POINT OF ORDER. >> SPEAKER: GO AHEAD.
>> SPEAKER: LOOKING AT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, WE AGREED TO DISCUSS THIS. I BELIEVE IF WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS IT WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO DO IT BEFORE WE ENTER INTO A FORMAL PROCESS TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE A MOTION.
>> SPEAKER: I DON'T DISAGREE, TOMMY.
WE WILL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
>> SPEAKER: MAYOR, BUT HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH. YOU HAVE DISCUSSION AFTER EITHER IT GETS A SECOND OR IT'S NOT A MOTION.
>> SPEAKER: I SECOND. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO SUSPEND THE RULES. DISCUSSION.
>> SPEAKER: HAVE WE PUBLICIZED THIS AT ALL? WHAT KNOWLEDGE IS THE PUBLIC HAVE OF WHAT WE PROPOSE TONIGHT?
>> SPEAKER: ONE MAJOR CHALLENGE IS WE HAVE AN ACTIVE CONTRACT WHAT WE ARE ASKING A CONTRACTOR TO STOP WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND NOT PROCEED BECAUSE WE HAVE A ROAD THAT IS NOT STRIPED.
I AM ASKING TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE IN THE CONTRACT WHERE THEY HAVE OBLIGATIONS AND SO DO WE.
THIS IS AN ITEM. IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOVE THIS -- THE CITY MANAGER IS REQUESTED ON BEHALF OF A LOT OF CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE WE NEED TO PROCEED TONIGHT.
THE PUBLIC KNOWS ABOUT IT ONLY IN TERMS OF THE NEWSPAPERS PUBLICIZING, MEANING THE CITY HAS NOT PUSHED OUT INFORMATION BECAUSE WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO CHOOSE TO DO. SO WE WOULD NEVER PUT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND INFORMATION THAT IS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THERE HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN NEWSPAPER ARTICLES ABOUT IT AND YOU RECEIVED A NUMBER OF LETTERS FROM SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
NEITHER TO BE PUBLICIZED WE ARE WIDENING COX ROAD AND PUTTING BIKE LANES. OTHER THAN, WE WILL HAVE SOME ROAD CLOSURES. AND CONSTRUCTION.
>> SPEAKER: WOULD BE NOTICE THIS NORMALLY ABOUT UNDER
DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES? >> SPEAKER: THERE WOULD BE NO OBLIGATION TO NOTICE THIS. I CAN'T BE MORE DEFINITIVE ABOUT THIS PICK YOU ARE NOT AMENDING THE CONTRACT AND WE WOULD DO THAT THROUGH OUR NORMAL CHANNELS.
YOU WOULD JUST BE BASICALLY WAVING AN INFORMAL POLICY TO DO THIS THERE IS NO SPECIFIC MECHANISM.
WE HAVE AN OCTAVE CONTRACTOR YOU DON'T VOTE ON CHANGE ORDERS.
WE MAKE FIELD CHANGES EVERY DAY ON FAKE CONTRACTS AND OTHER THINGS. IT COMES UNDER THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY ENGINEER AND MY AUTHORITY IS GIVEN THROUGH HER FROM A CONTRACT PERSPECTIVE. THAT'S WHY THIS IS A VERY HIGHLY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE. IN TALKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, THIS WAS THE MAIN WAY WE COULD DO THIS TO GIVE -- IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO WAY IN ON IT, THEY CAN WAY IN ON IT DURING A HEARING PROCESS TONIGHT ON OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS. THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION ITEM ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING.
BECAUSE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE IT IS ALSO CAUSING -- THE MORE WE DELAY THE LONGER COX ROAD WILL BE FINISHED AND WE ALSO THEN CANNOT ACQUIRE THE CONTRACTOR TO DO CERTAIN THINGS IF WE ARE HOLDING THEM UP. IT BECOMES A VERY CHALLENGING
CONTRACTUAL ISSUE FOR THE STAFF. >> SPEAKER: SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU ALREADY GOT A CONTRACT WITH THE ROADS TO BE STRIPED AND WIDENED. WITH BIKE LANES.
IF APPROVED TONIGHT, IT JUST REALLY REQUIRED CONTRACT CHANGES WHICH IS A CHANGE ORDER TO ELIMINATE THE BIKE LANES AND PUT
THE TURN LANES. >> SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT.
>> SPEAKER: HOW IS COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? WOULD IT CHANGE THE COST OF THE CONTRACT?
>> SPEAKER: CITY ENGINEER FRAZIER?
>> SPEAKER: BASED ON OUR ESTIMATES IT WOULD COST PROXIMALLY $10,000 MORE TO DO THE STRIPING MODIFICATION.
>> SPEAKER: WE HAVE IN CONTRACTS AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, WE HAVE LIMITATIONS ON CHANGE ORDERS WE CAN DO WITHOUT GOING BACK TO THE COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW WITH ALL OF THE GIVE AND TAKE IN THIS CONTRACT WHERE THAT IS FROM A FULL ACCOUNTING BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE OTHER CONTRACTUAL ISSUES THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. THEY JUST DON'T INVOLVE THE COUNCIL AT THIS JUNCTURE MORE OF A ROUTINE MATTER WITH US.
>> SPEAKER: I GUESS MY THOUGHTS TO THIS IS THAT I ACTUALLY TRAVEL THAT ROAD GOING TO TO SKI EVERY DAY TO GET ON THE INTERSTATE. I HAVE NEVER SINCE I'VE BEEN TRAVELING IT, AND I'VE BEEN AT TUSKEGEE FOR NINE YEARS NOW, I HAVE NEVER REALLY SEEN BIKES OUT THERE.
IF YOU ARE TALKING COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE, AND GETTING ONTO
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COX ROAD, AND THEN I GET TO WIRE ROAD.IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
>> SPEAKER: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT JUST PAST THE TECHNOLOGY PARK ENTRANCE. THAT IS VETERANS.
SO FEELS HE WAS THE NEXT STREET. IF YOU ARE TALKING FEEL VIEW TO WIRE ROAD. JUST PAST TECHNOLOGY PARK ALL THE WAY TO WIRE ROAD AND THE BIKE LANES WILL BE TERMINATING YOUR THE INTERCHANGE ANYWAY. BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT QUITE HALF A MILE NORTH OF THE INTERCHANGE. IT IS AT FEEL VIEW DRIVE WHICH
IS ONE ROAD NORTH OF VETERANS. >> SPEAKER: ONE MORE QUESTION.
WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS TONIGHT, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MAYBE WANT TO SPEAK ON IT OR DISAGREE OR PROVE THE CHANGE AND EVERYTHING. I'M GOING TO TELL ME THIS AGAIN, BECAUSE I ESTIMATE THAT THE LAST PEOPLE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN. ARE MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA ARE THEY OKAY WITH THE TURN LANE?
>> SPEAKER: YES. I THINK MOST PEOPLE -- EVERYBODY I HEARD FROM. THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP JUMPED ALL OVER MEET ONE NIGHT ON THE PHONE ABOUT THE DANGERS OF COX ROAD AND BUSES PASSED REGULARLY OUT THERE AND TRYING TO LOAD AND UNLOAD CHILDREN. UPSET ABOUT THE ROAD SPENDING THAT MUCH MONEY FOR TWO BIKE LANES AND WIDENING.
THAT'S WHEN I BROUGHT THIS UP. I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THE PROBLEMS OF COX ROAD JUST LIKE THERE HOPEFULLY WILL BE FROM THE BIKE PEOPLE.
>> SPEAKER: PERSONALLY, I REALLY DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THE TURN LANE. BUT AFTER EVERYBODY SPEAKS AND
EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION. >> SPEAKER: COUNCIL APPROVED THE EXISTING CONTRACT, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> SPEAKER: CORRECT. >> SPEAKER: THAT WAS AN AGENDA ITEM AT SOME POINT FOR THE COUNCIL.
THE PUBLIC WAS AWARE THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING REVIEWING AND DELIBERATING ON THAT CONTRACT PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL VOTE.
SO THE COUNCIL HAS VOTED TO SPEND THE MONEY AND TO BUILD THE ROAD AS CURRENTLY DESIGNED. IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> SPEAKER: THAT WAS ON THERE BUT ONLY THE CONTRACT SPECIFICATIONS WERE ON THE AGENDA.
THE ENTIRE BID TABULATION IS ON THE AGENDA WITH THE MEMO AND A MINOR VERSION OF THE CONTRACT. THE ENTIRE PLANS AND SPECS FOR THE CONTRACT ARE NOT WITH THE COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM.
JUST A BASIC CONTRACT AND A DOLLAR AMOUNT WITH SOME
>> SPEAKER: AND SO TONIGHT YOU WERE ADVERTISED TO DISCUSS THIS
IN COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. >> SPEAKER: YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THE PLANS THAT YOU SPOKE OF I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING HERE THAT SAYS WE HAD THE CONNECT AUBURN PLAN WAS PUBLISHED IN DECEMBER OF 2019.
>> SPEAKER: THAT'S NOT A PUBLISHED PLAN.
>> SPEAKER: IT WAS COMPLETED IS BIKEWAYS IN PARENTHESES DECEMBED UNDER CONTRACT TO A NATIONALLY ACCLAIMED DESIGN AND PLANNING
CONSULTANT REPORT. >> SPEAKER: THAT'S CORRECT.
THE PLAN HAS NEVER BEEN PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
>> SPEAKER: AND ALSO THAT WAS MANAGED BY A STAFF TEAM OF ALISON FRASER, BECKY RICHARDSON, SCOTT CUMMINGS AND OTHERS.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT -- USING BRUNO OLDISH'S INFORMATION HERE.
BARGE DESIGN SOLUTIONS ASSISTED IN THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
>> SPEAKER: THEY DID NOT. ONLY ON THE ROUNDABOUT WHICH IS
A SEPARATE PROJECT. >> SPEAKER: I FIND IT IRONIC THAT JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER WE HAVE HAD A BICYCLE WEEK PROCLAMATION THAT OUR FIRST OFFICIAL ACTION IS TO DO SOMETHING CONTRARY TO WHAT THE BICYCLE COMMUNITY WANTS.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T SEE BICYCLES ON COX ROAD IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE TO HAVE BICYCLES ON COX ROAD.
HOWEVER, WITH THIS CHANGE, WITH A SMOOTH, FLAT AS YOU MENTIONED CONTOURED EVERYTHING LANES, IT WILL BE SAFE.
THAT PARTICULAR ROUTE ALLOWS CYCLISTS TO GO FROM WIRE ROAD
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OVER TO SANDHILL ROAD AND CIRCUMNAVIGATE THE CITY WITHOUT HAVING TO TRAVERSE ALL OF THESE INTERSECTIONS AND WHATNOT.FOR ANYONE WHO IS A BIKE RIDER, AND I AM ONE, TO THINK THAT A TURN LANE MAKES IT SAFER FOR BICYCLES, FOR MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, IS A FALLACY. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WITH THE TWO BIKE LANES YOU HAVE A 6-FOOT BARRIER AND YOU HAVE YOUR OWN DEDICATED LANE. WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE A TURN LANE, THE BICYCLIST IS GOING TO BE RIDING IN TRAFFIC, WRITING IN THE MOTORISTS LANE BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSIDERED BY STATE LAW AS A VEHICLE. SO YOU HAVE A FAST-MOVING 50-MILE AN HOUR VEHICLE COMING UP ON A SLOW MOVING BICYCLE AND THE BICYCLIST IS HOPING THAT THE PERSON WILL MOVE OVER INTO THE TURN LANE. IF HE DOES THAT'S WONDERFUL.
BUT THE ODDS ARE NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO DO THAT.
SO THIS WAY YOU HAVE YOUR OWN DEDICATED LANE, YOU ARE OUT OF THE WAY AND MOTORISTS CAN GO ON BY YOU WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT IT, PARTICULARLY WITH A 6-FOOT LANE VERSUS A 3-FOOT LANE THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN IS RECOMMENDED SAFE DISTANCE.
JUST TODAY I WAS RIDING RIGHT OUT HERE AND WE HAVE A CROSSING OF THE HIGHWAY OVER HERE WE HAVE THE FLASHING LIGHTS AND YOU HAVE THE CROSSWALK. JUST TODAY I HIT THOSE BUTTONS AND JUST ABOUT GOT ONE OVER BECAUSE THE MOTORISTS COMING OVER THE HILL DIDN'T WANT TO STOP FOR BICYCLIST.
TO THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING IS WONDERFUL AND A LOT OF THEM WILL DO THE RIGHT THING, THEY WILL MOVE OVER, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH FOR SOMEBODY TO GET KILLED OUT THERE RIDING A BICYCLE. IF WE HAD A SAFE ROUTE ON COX ROAD THEN YOU WOULD SEE BICYCLE TRAFFIC OUT THERE.
I THINK THAT BY DOING AWAY WITH BIKE LANES WE ARE DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY WERE AS WE ARE ONLY FAVORING A FEW FOLKS THAT THINK IT'S GOING TO BE CONVENIENT. THEY WILL THINK IT SAFER AS
>> SPEAKER: A FEW FOLKS WILL HAVE WILL BE INCONVENIENCED.
>> SPEAKER: WHICH FOLKS ARE THAT?
>> SPEAKER: IF YOU BETTER TURN LEFT.
>> SPEAKER: WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO?
>> SPEAKER: I'M NOT REFERRING TO ANYTHING UPSETTING A FACT.
>> SPEAKER: WHAT KIND OF BARRIER, IT'S GOING TO BE A STRIPED ON THE ROAD. IT'S NOT GOING TO KEEP A CAR FROM RUNNING OVER YOU. I ASSURE YOU YOU'RE DRIVING ON COX ROAD THEY WILL PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO THAT STRIPE ON THE ROAD. IT'S A FALLACY TO SAY THIS IS CONNECTED BECAUSE IT'S NOT. IT THE ONLY CONNECTION IN THE BIKE LANE WILL HAVE IS TO SOUTHBOUND ON WIRE ROAD TO THE BIKE PATH GOING OUT WIRE ROAD. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT LET'S TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT IT. I'M NOT AGAINST BIKE LANES AT ALL. NOT AT ALL.
I CANNOT SET BY AND NOT SPEAK UP ON IT.
ALL I CAN DO IS ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AND HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES. THIS BIKE LANE IS MILE AND A HALF OF BIKE LANE PLUS HALF A MILE OF CONCRETE MULTIUSE PATH.
BICEP TOLD ME THEY DON'T LIKE TO USE THE MULTIUSE PATH BECAUSE PEOPLE WALKING AND YOU CAN'T HEAR THEM THEIR EARBUDS IN THEIR EAR AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I SEE WHERE THAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT LONGLEAF IS ONE OF THE MAIN ROADS COMING INTO COX ROAD.
IT IS A TURN LANE ALL THE WAY FROM COX ROAD TO SOUTH COLLEGE ST. NO BIKES LANE THERE WHATSOEVER.
EXTRA WIDE SIDEWALK ON IT BUT KNOW ABOUT -- BIKE LANE.
NO BIKE LANE ON VETERANS COMING OFF.
NO BIKE LANE FROM COX AND WIRE INTO TOWN FOR BIKE TO RIDE ON.
YOU HAVE TO WRITE ON THE FOUR-LANE HIGHWAY ON WIRE ROAD TO GET TO THE MULTIUSE PATH AT THE UNIVERSITY HAS IN FRONT OF THE CENTER. IT STARTS AT WESTERN.
THE ONLY CONNECTIVITY THAT WILL BE TO THE BIKE PATH LANE GOING SOUTH ON WIRE ROAD WHICH GOES TO CHADWICK LANE ARE ALMOST CHADWICK LANE. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE THINK IT'S CONNECT BECAUSE IT'S NOT. STOPS THE FIELD YOU DRIVE.
>> SPEAKER: I'VE READ THAT AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THE CONNECTION AND I WOULD CONSIDER A BIKE LANE A CONNECTION.
FROM WIRE ROAD TO UNIVERSITY AND THE MULTIUSE PATH THAT THE UNIVERSITY HAS IN FRONT OF THE VET SCHOOL CROSSING OVER UP TO COX ROAD, COX ROAD OVER TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
ONCE YOU GET TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK ENTRANCE IS THERE IS A WIDE ROAD AND WIDE SHOULDER IN A SAFE THERE.
IT'S NOT SAFE BETWEEN WIRE ROAD AND THE ENTRANCE TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.
IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE SAFER IN MY OPINION TO HAVE A DEDICATED LANE FOR BICYCLISTS. I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE DOING A
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DISSERVICE IF WE ARE GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CITY BEING A BIKE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE OUR FIRST OFFICIAL ACTION BEINGDOING AWAY WITH BIKE LANES. >> SPEAKER: I TELL YOU IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO ANYTHING EXCEPT THE SOUTHBOUND BIKE PATH ON WIRE ROAD. IF YOU THINK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE YOU NEED TO EDUCATE ME ABOUT IT BUT IT'S NOT CONNECTED ANYWHERE ELSE TO BIKE LANES. IS LIKE WRITING DOWN COX ROAD SMILE AND A HALF. IT DOESN'T EVEN GO ALL THE WAY
TO VETERANS. >> SPEAKER: TO HAVE FUTURE
PLANS TO EXPAND THAT? >> SPEAKER: I WILL HAVE THE
CITY ENGINEER SPEAK TO THAT. >> SPEAKER: OVER THE INTERCHANGE AND BACK TO COLLEGE ST. ON COX ROAD?
>> SPEAKER: FUTURE PLANS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S IN THE PIPELINE. WE TALK ABOUT AUBURN CONNECTIVITY. MIGHT NOT DO IT RIGHT NOW MY NECK THAT BUT WE SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE WITH A CYCLISTS CIRCLE
AROUND TOWN? >> SPEAKER: I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT OUR DRAFT THREE-WAY BIKE PLAN.
I DON'T RECALL IF IT'S ON THE RADAR FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
>> SPEAKER: I WAS LOOKING AT THE CONNECT ALDRIN PLAN.
I WILL PREFACE THIS ALSO. I'M ALSO A CYCLIST.
MY GRANDFATHER OWNED A BIKE STORE, MY FATHER OWNED A BIKE STORE. I GREW UP IN AND AROUND BIKES.
MY FAMILY DIDN'T HAVE A CAR UNTIL I WAS 14 AND WE WERE KNOWN IN AUSTRALIA AS THE GOPHER PERSONS BIKE RIDING FAMILY.
I FEEL I'M PRETTY WELL QUALIFIED TO KNOW THAT THE CYCLIST COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE. AND I THINK HANDS DOWN THE CYCLIST COMMUNITY APPRECIATE A BUFFER BETWEEN THEIR BIKE AND THE GENERAL TRAFFIC AND I AM VERY CONFIDENT TO SAY THAT THAT PARTICULAR BIKE LANE WOULD BE VERY APPRECIATED IN TERMS OF AN OVERALL ARCHING STRATEGY ABOUT CONNECTING THIS CITY.
THAT IS ONE ELEMENT. I NOTICED IT WAS PHASE THREE IN THE CONNECT AUBURN PLAN OF FIVE PHASES, I BELIEVE, THAT SPANNED A TEN YEAR TIME FRAME. I WOULD BE CONFIDENT TO SEE OTHER ADDITIONS TO THAT ACTIVITY THESE THINGS CAN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT AND THAT OBVIOUSLY GETS STRAINED BY THE BUDGET, YOU CAN DO THE PIECES AT A TIME. I ALWAYS WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PIECE WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE PIECES ADDED TO A LONG RANGE PLAN OF CONNECTIVITY.
I MUST SAY, WHEN I FIRST SAW THE CONNECT AUBURN PLAN IN THE PLANNING WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC INFORMALLY AND NOT ADOPTED, I HASTEN TO ADD THAT -- IT WAS QUITE EXCITING TO SEE THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS TOWN EMBRACING OTHER TYPES OF TRAVEL OPTIONS THAT MANY OF US ENJOY IN THIS TOWN.
IT SPOKE TO ME THE FACT THAT WE ARE FORWARD THINKING IN TERMS OF HOW WE PLAN OUR CITY. I WAS VERY EXCITED.
I MUST SAY THAT SIMILAR TO YOU, KELLEY, IS THAT I'M OUT ON THE ROAD PRETTY REGULARLY AND I WON'T USE THE MULTIUSE PATH BECAUSE I PROBABLY WOULD NOT KNOCK OVER A TODDLER OR SOMETHING. I WILL BRAVE THE ROAD BUT I WOULD RATHER NOT FEEL LIKE I'M BRAVING THE ROAD.
I WOULD RATHER FEEL LIKE I'M WELCOMED ON THE ROAD.
>> SPEAKER: WHAT ELSE? >> SPEAKER: I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. IF THIS IS AN INFORMAL POLICY I GUESS I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHY THIS IS EVEN SOMETHING THAT WE
HAVE TO ACT ON. >> SPEAKER: THERE ARE CONCERNS RAISED THAT IT WAS DELIBERATION. WHETHER YOU WOULD BE DELIBERATING AT THIS MEETING THE BOARD OR COMMISSION AND APPOINTMENTS AND THINGS. TO BE CLEAR AND TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, BUT I WAS LOOKING FOR IS I WORK FOR THE CITY MANAGER I WAS LOOKING FOR THE MAJORITY OF YOU TO TELL ME IF YOU WANT TO THIS MODIFIED OR NOT.
THIS IS A HIGHLY UNUSUAL THING. I DON'T THINK IN MY ENTIRE CAREER I REMEMBER ANYTHING QUITE LIKE IT.
IT ALSO FALLS IN THE HOLE OF A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE MENTIONED THE CONNECT AUBURN PLAN.
IT IS NOT ADOPTED, IT IS NOT A DISINTEREST OF STAFF.
IS AN OUTCOME OF 2040 THAT NEEDS TO BE FULLY VETTED AND MAYBE, A MAJOR GOAL OF THE CITY. COVID HAPPENED AND HELD US UP ON THAT. THE BIKEWAYS, GREENWAYS AND THINGS AREN'T IMPLEMENT TYPICALLY MUTED HE DID HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. IN THIS INSTANCE I ALSO UNDERSTOOD SOME OF YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT GIVING THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THIS MEETING ABOUT IT.
SO I WAS COMING UP WITH A RESOLUTION THAT THEY COULD
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SICKLY GIVES CITY MANAGER DIRECTION TO MODIFY A CONTRACT BECAUSE NORMALLY IN ANY CONTRACT WE ARE DOING I DON'T NEED A FORMAL CONTRACT AMENDMENT FROM THE ACCOUNT UNLESS WE ARE CHANGING SOMETHING ABOUT MONEY. WE AMEND OUR CONTRACTS ALL DAY EVERY DAY AND IT NORMALLY DOESN'T RISE TO THE COUNCILS LEVEL. IN TRYING TO BE CERTAIN THAT I HAD FORMAL DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE CONCERNS WERE RAISED ABOUT INFORMAL DIRECTION, THAT'S WHERE THIS CAME FROM.>> SPEAKER: CAN WE IMPROVE THE MULTIUSE -- I'M CONFUSED.
>> SPEAKER: IT IS CONSTRUCTED. THE MULTIUSE IS IN AND POURED.
>> SPEAKER: WHAT HAPPENS IF WE WERE TO MOVE THIS TO ALLOW MOVE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING?
>> SPEAKER: I NEED TO CONTINUE TO WARN THE COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE AN ACTIVE CONSUL -- CONTRACT AND ADVISE YOU AS SUCH.
WHEN WE CAUSE A SLOWDOWN, WE CANNOT HOLD SOMEBODY RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING LATE ON A CONTRACT. SO WHEN WE SLOW THEM DOWN, THEN THAT IS DAYS DEDUCTED OFF IF A CONTRACT IS LATE OR THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES. IT IS A TWO-WAY STREET THERE.
WE HAVE AN ACTIVE CONTRACT AND THE MORE WE SLOW SOMEBODY DOWN THE MORE WE CANNOT HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR PERFORMANCE ON A
TIMING ISSUE. >> SPEAKER: ARE THEY GOING TO
BE STRIPING? >> SPEAKER: THEY MIGHT HAVE
BEEN STRIPING ALREADY. >> SPEAKER: TEMPORARILY STRIVED. NOT EVEN NEAR CLOSE TO STRIPING WHAT I TELL THEY HAVE ANOTHER YEAR OF ASPHALT TO GO DOWN.
LET'S BE CLEAR ON WHERE WE ARE AT ON THE PROJECT.
>> SPEAKER: WE KNOW -- >> SPEAKER: CITY ENGINEER CAN SPEAK TO THAT. SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING
THE CONTRACT AND HER STAFF. >> SPEAKER: MR. DAWSON IS CORRECT. IT'S STRIVED FOR ONLY PLACE THE FINAL RESURFACE WHICH IS THE NEXT THING TO BE DONE IT NEEDS TO HAVE THE FINAL TEMPORARY STRIPING DONE.
SO IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE INCORRECTLY ONLY TO COME BACK AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT ON THE FINAL RESURFACE.
>> SPEAKER: IS THAT GOING TO OCCUR IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS?
>> SPEAKER: IT WILL COULD. >> SPEAKER: IT IS NOT COSTING US DEARLY TO DATE BUT IT CAN COST US.
AGAIN, THE FINAL LAYER WILL HAVE A SECOND TEMPORARY BIT.
IT WILL COVER UP WHAT WAS TEMPORARY STRIPING AND THERE WILL BE A FINAL LAYER AND THEN THEY WILL COME THROUGH WITH WHAT'S CALLED THERMOPLASTIC WHICH IS THE REFLECTIVE STRIPING. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS IN THE CONCERN RAISED TO ME HAS BEEN WELL, IF WE ARE GOING TO RESTRIPED THIS IN THE LONG TERM, HOW EASY IS IT TO GET STRIPING OFF? POETRY PUT THE THERMOPLASTIC DOWN YOU'LL SEE WHAT WE SEE ON GAY STREET BY THE CITY HALL.
WHERE WE MOVED THE CROSSWALK AT TICHENOR AT GAY FROM ONE SIDE OF PETITIONER TO THE OTHER. THEY HAVE A MECHANISM TO GRIND IT DOWN AND SOME I REMOVE IT BUT YOU CAN STILL PARTIALLY SEE IT.
BEFORE THE FINAL WEARING SURFACE THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
IT IS CERTAINLY THE COUNCILS PLEASURE TO DO THAT BUT IT IS HIGHLY UNUSUAL AND I HAVE TO ADVISE THAT IT COULD CAUSE SOME CHALLENGES FOR US ABOUT ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR CERTAIN TIME FRAMES.
EVERY DAY THAT WE TELL THEM THEY CAN'T DO SOMETHING IS A DAY DEDUCTED FROM WHEN THEY DIDN'T GET SOMETHING DONE.
IT'S A BALANCING ACT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO ADVISE YOU ABOUT THAT CREATES CHALLENGES FOR THE STAFF.
>> SPEAKER: MEGAN, IF SIX OF US WOULD WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD FOR RESOLUTION LATER ON IN THE AGENDA, THOSE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CAN SPEAK TO IT TO
US DURING ITEMS. >> SPEAKER: ITEM SIX, CITIZENS
COMMUNICATION. >> SPEAKER: AND THEN WHEN IT COMES UP FOR COUNSEL VOTE, AFTER THE MOTION IS SECONDED, THE COUNCIL CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATION ON THAT CORRECT?
>> SPEAKER: YES, YOU CAN. >> SPEAKER: OKAY.
>> SPEAKER: WHAT IS THE COMPLETION DEADLINE FOR THE
PROJECT? >> SPEAKER: A LONG TIME AGO.
NOVEMBER 2020. ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION THE CITY ENGINEER PROVIDED TODAY. NOVEMBER OF 2020.
>> SPEAKER: SO TIME IS OF ESSENCE RIGHT NOW.
>> SPEAKER: YES, MA'AM. >> SPEAKER: WAS THE REASON FOR THE DELAY? IS IT CITY RELATED OR --
>> SPEAKER: WE DID HAVE A PRETTY WET SEASON, SOME OF IT IS RAIN, SOME OF IT IS CONTRACTOR DELAY.
>> SPEAKER: IT'S A CHALLENGING PROJECT BUT SOME OF IT IS
CONTRACTOR DELAY. >> SPEAKER: IT IF I MAY, MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS VOTE WILL GO SO I WILL SAY WHAT I NEED TO SAY BEFORE THE VOTE. I'M ONLY DO -- DO IT WILL MY CONSTITUENT ASK OF ME. IF THEY THINK TURNLEY WOULD BE BETTER ON THE ROAD I WOULD AGREE WITH THEM.
AND MY AGAINST BIKE LANES, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
IF YOU WANT TO PUT BIKE LANES, PUT YOUR BIKE LANES OUT THERE.
I WILL BE THERE REGARDLESS. WE WILL BE HERE GOOD LORD
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WILLING I WILL BE THERE AT LEAST ANOTHER 20 YEARS.I'M 55 MY DAD'S IS 75 SO IF I LIVE LIKE HE DID -- I WILL BE THERE. BIKE LANES ARE GOING TO AFFECT ME. BUT WHAT GETS ME IS ANY TIME YOU BRING SOMETHING UP BEFORE THIS COUNCIL NOW THE FIRST THING OUT OF PEOPLE'S MOUTHS IS YOU HAVE AT LEAST TWO COUNCIL MEMBER PREVIEWED THIS AND AS FAR AS I KNOW DID NOT DEFEND MY INTEGRITY. BUT THE FIRST THING OUT OF SOMEBODY'S MOUTH TO A COUPLE OF COUNCIL PEOPLE WERE, LET'S LOOK AT WHO HAS THE MOST TO GAIN. IT'S ALSO WENT ON TO SAY THAT DAWSON'S OWNS OR IS SIX CONTIGUOUS ACRES.
THE DAWSON'S HAPPEN TO OWN 80 SOMETHING CONTIGUOUS ACRES BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. WE WILL OWN IT TELL UNTIL WE DROP DEAD AND THEY PULL US OUT OF THERE.
WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING LAND TO ANYBODY.
FIRST OF ALL I MADE A LIVING PROTECTING THIS COMMUNITY AGAINST PUBLIC CORROSION. I PUT PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR PUBLIC CORROSION BEFORE. THIS IDEA THAT I WILL GAIN SOMETHING FROM A TURN LANE, RIGHT, I'M IRRITATED.
I'M UPSET TONIGHT. BECAUSE YOU'RE QUESTIONING MY INTEGRITY. AT LEAST TWO OF YOU COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT IT HAPPENED. QUESTIONED MY INTEGRITY AND I HAVE DEFENDED BOTH OF YOU. I WILL CALL YOUR NAMES BUT YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. I DEFENDED BOTH OF YOUR INTEGRITY AND MEETINGS LIKE THIS.
IF YOU WANT THE BIKE LANE PUT THE BIKE LANE.
I'M NOT UPSET ABOUT THE BIPLANE NOT AT ALL.
MY CONSTITUENT FOR THE TURN LANE I THINK WOULD BE BETTER BUT IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT TONIGHT WITH THE BIKE LANES, IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT ME.
BUT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN WAY BEHIND.
MY DRIVEWAY WILL NEVER BE RIGHT AGAIN.
I AGREED TO IT LIKE IT IS BUT IT WILL NEVER BE RIGHT AGAIN.
IT'S MESSED UP FOREVER. MY DADDY AND MAMA HAD TO NEARLY -- WILL BE PUT UP WITH, WHEN HE COMES IN FROM WORK TO TURN IN, PEOPLE BEHIND HIM START BLOWING THEIR HORNS AND CURSING.
THIS IS A PREACHER WHO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH PEOPLE CUSSING HIM OUT WHEN HE TURNED INTO HIS DRIVEWAY BECAUSE HE CAN'T SEE.
BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT'S ON COX ROAD.
IS ON COX ROAD AND IT'S NOT -- COX ROAD IS NOT QUITE AS IMPORTANT AS OTHER AREAS AROUND TOWN I GUESS.
IF YOU DON'T WANT -- DON'T DO IT BECAUSE I ASKED YOU TO.
THAT'S FINE. GO WITH THE BIKE LANE.
IF IT MAKES IT A BUDDY HAPPY GO WITH THE BIKE LANE.
I'M NOT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ONCE A BUDDY GETS KILLED OUT THERE ONE OVER ON THEIR BICYCLE. YOU DO NOT REALIZE HOW PEOPLE DRIVE ON THAT ROAD. YOU TOOK A FARM ROAD AND TURNED INTO A MAJOR INTERCHANGE RODE THAT COMES AND PEOPLE COME OFF THE INTERSTATE GOING 90 MILES PER HOUR AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO 90 MILES PER HOUR. WE HAD A YOUNG MAN LEAVE THE ROAD INTO THE WOODS. WE HAD TO GO OUT THERE AND HEARD HIM MOANING. HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN FOUND DEAD. THAT'S HOW DANGEROUS IT IS OUT THERE ON COX ROAD. DON'T SAY TOMMY DAWSON IS AGAINST BIPLANES. I'M NOT.
I'M FINE WITH IT. BUT LET'S BE FAIR BUT WE DIDN'T ANNOUNCE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS BIKE LANES.
WE DIDN'T SAY WE WOULD PUT BIKE LANES IN TONIGHT.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT, DON'T DO IT.
DON'T DO IT BECAUSE OF ME. I HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
GOOD LORD WILLING I WILL CONTINUE TO BE THERE AND I WILL BE EXTRA CAREFUL COMING OUT ON THE BIPLANE BECAUSE I HAVE TO PULL OUT INTO THE BIPLANE TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHICH WAY I'M GOING TO GO BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE FOR MY DRIVEWAY WAY IT HAS BEEN MESSED UP. I'M TO THE POINT WHEN YOU WANT TO GET PERSONAL. AND I HAVE TO DEFEND MY HONOR IT'S GOING TO FAR. THAT'S GOT TO STOP WITH THIS COUNSEL PERIOD. I DON'T CARE WHO IT IS.
I DON'T CARE WHICH COUNCILPERSON IT IS.
THIS STUFF ABOUT SOMEBODY HAS TO HAVE AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE IS BULL.
THAT IS BULL. I NEVER MADE A DIME OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT I VOTE OFF IN THE CITY NEVER WILL.
THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: TOMMY, I CERTAINLY RESPECT THE REASON YOU WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD.
I THINK THE RESIDENTS OF WARD EIGHT AND COX ROAD ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU SO PASSIONATELY REPRESENTING THEM.
>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> SPEAKER: ANYONE ELSE HAVE
ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY? >> SPEAKER: I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION. ON MOVING INTO THE AGENDA, WHAT IS TIMING RIGHT TO POTENTIALLY TRY TO MOVE AND TABLE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING? WITH THAT BE AT THIS POINT IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE OR WHEN IT'S ON THE AGENDA?
>> SPEAKER: IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA YET SO YOU HAVE A MOTION JUST FROM COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.
WHAT I'M SAYING -- SPECTRUM TO TRY TO CLARIFY.
IF WE MOVE IT TO THE AGENDA. >> SPEAKER: IF WE MOVE INTO THE AGENDA AND TABLE TWO NEXT MEETING WOULD BE THEN PUBLISH WOULD BE HAVE THE AGENDA IN AND PEOPLE WOULD KNOW.
>> SPEAKER: THEY WOULD BE NO OTHER PUBLIC ADVERTISEMENT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE IT. IT WOULD JUST BE ON THE AGENDA.
>> SPEAKER: IT WOULD BE ON THE OFFICIAL AGENDA.
>> SPEAKER: THE FITTING WAY TO DO THAT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO NOTICE IN THAT FASHION WOULD BE TO MOVE IT AT LEAST ONTO THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT IS NOT AN ITEM THAT IS CITY MANAGER WOULD MOVE
ONTO THE AGENDA OF MY OWN ACCORD >> SPEAKER: IF WE WERE TO MOVE IT NOW AND IT WOULD BE PASSED TO BE ONLY MOVING THE CONSIDERATION
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RESOLUTION? >> SPEAKER: CORRECT.
IT WOULD NOT BE MOVING ON TO ANYWHERE.
>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, I SAID 83 CONTIGUOUS ACRES.
DAWSON'S IS RIGHT. I'M ON THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE AND THE HOUSE. MY DADDY AND UNCLE ON THAT AND THERE'S NO WAY I CAN BENEFIT FROM WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HEAD.
VERY LITTLE OF IT IS ROAD FROM. >> SPEAKER: LET'S MOVE FORWARD PITCH OF THE COUNCIL AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE WILL CONSIDER MOVING THIS. TOMMY, IF YOU WOULD READ YOUR STATEMENT WILL MORE TIME, YOUR REQUEST.
THERE IS BEEN ENOUGH TIME. LET'S REHEAR THAT.
>> SPEAKER: REQUEST WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION TO CONSIDER STRIPING WITH A CENTER TURN LANE.
I DON'T HAVE THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF ME.
WE MOVE FORWARD AND GIVE THE CITIZENS BOTH SIDES A CHANCE TO BE HEARD AND CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS AND YOU VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE. I THINK YOU AT LEAST OWE IT TO THE CITIZENS TO HEAR THE BIKE PEOPLE AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT THERE ON COX ROAD NOW.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO APPROVE IT THEN THAT'S THE TIME TO VOTE IT DOWN. I THINK YOU AT LEAST OWE IT TO THE CITIZENS AND I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD THINK THIS TO GIVE IT A SHOT TO BE HEARD TONIGHT. WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO VOTE ON DOES NOT MEAN YOU CORRECT IT -- IT JUST SIMPLY GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES I HAVE HEARD FROM SOME OF THEM AND SOME MAKE GOOD POINTS. I TALKED ON THE BIKE COMMITTEES WITH PEOPLE AND I HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT MAKE VERY GOOD POINTS. I JUST ASK AND RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU LET IT MOVE FORWARD AND IF AFTER HEARING BOTH SIDES FROM PEOPLE OUT HERE TONIGHT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GO WITH IT IT'S NO HARD FEELINGS FOR ME. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HARD FEELINGS FOR ME EITHER WAY YOU GO.
I WILL BE FINE. I WILL BE HERE TOMORROW.
>> SPEAKER: MS. KRAUSE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS?
>> SPEAKER: YOU CAN DO A ROLL CAR IF IT'S EASIER BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO KNOW IF IT TAKES TWO THIRDS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE TO
MOVE IT ONTO THE AGENDA. >> SPEAKER: SO WE ARE VOTING TO MOVE THIS ONTO THE AGENDA AND IT WOULD BE AT THE END OF THE
AGENDA? >> SPEAKER: WOULD BE ITEM 11A.
AN ITEM OF OTHER BUSINESS. WHEN WE GET TO ITEM SIX WHICH IS CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS WE WILL REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THAT IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
>> SPEAKER: SO THE MOTION, IF YOU VOTE YES, YOU ARE MOVING THIS TO LATER ON ON THE AGENDA AND WE WILL ACTUALLY OFFICIALLY CONSIDER THIS. IF YOU VOTE NO IT WILL STAY RIGHT HERE AND WE WILL CONSIDER IT.
>> SPEAKER: IN THE EVENT THAT IT MOVES ON TO A NEGATIVE AGENDA ITEM, AND WE VOTE ON IT, WHAT IS THE VOTE COUNT?
TO THE VOTE COUNT -- >> SPEAKER: SIMPLE MAJORITY.
IT'S JUST PROCEDURALLY AS A RESOLUTION THAT ADOPTED PROCEDURES FOR THE COUNSEL IN THAT IT MAKES IT CLEAR TO DO ANYTHING TO SPEND RULES TAKES TWO THIRDS VOTE.
THERE IS VERY RARE ORDINANCES THAT REQUIRE SOMETHING SPECIFIC, BUT NOT IN THIS CASE. IS JUST A STRAIGHT RESOLUTION.
>> SPEAKER: OKAY. EVERYBODY READY?
(ROLL CALL VOTE) >> SPEAKER: WE WILL TAKE THIS UP LATER ON IN THE AGENDA AND I WILL REMIND ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS UNDER ITEM NUMBER SIX WILL BE YOUR TIME TO SPEAK TO THIS. QUESTIONED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE CITY MANAGER? ANY QUESTIONS? CITY MANAGER DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US?
>> SPEAKER: NO, I DO NOT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.