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[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[00:00:05]

LAST MONTH'S MEETINGS. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 25.

>> SECOND. >> FROST ROLLINS: YES.

>> KIMBERLY WHITE: YES. >> CLINT WILSON: YES.

[CHAIRMAN'S OPENING REMARKS]

>> LATICIA KHALIF: YES. >> OPENING REMARKS.

ANYBODY AGGRIEVED BY ANY DECISION THE BOARD MAY WITHIN 15 DAYS OF SUCH DECISION MAY APPEAL TO CIRCUIT COURT 908.02 THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF AUBURN.

BOARD CONSISTS OF FIVE MEMBERS AND TWO SUPERNUMERARIES.

ALL DECISIONS ARE MADE ON A ROLL CALL VOTE AND CONCURRING VOTE OF FOUR MEMBERS IS REQUIRED TO APPROVE AN APPLICATION FOR A VARIANCE. OKAY.

ANY OLD BUSINESS. >> THERE IS NO OLD BUSINESS TONIGHT. LOGAN.

[1. Variance to Table 5-2: Lot Area, Setback, Bulk Regulations and Parking Requirements: Neighborhood Conservation District of the City of Auburn Zoning Ordinance PL-2021-00268]

>> YES, SIR. THE FIRST REQUEST IS A VARIANCE REQUEST TO THE REAR YARD SETBACK TO ALLOW AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO BE 30 FEET FROM THE REAR YARD'S PROPERTY LINE WHERE THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIRES A 42-FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED NC-14 AND LOCATED AT 5 72 SHERWOOD STREET.

THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE ANDREW AND SANNA HARDIN AND REPRESENTED BY JUSTIN RIVERS. THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS CAUSED BY AN ILLEGALLY NONCONFORMING ALASKA SESRY DWELLING UNIT THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE.

REQUESTING THE VARIANCE IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE STRUCTURE.

AND THE -- THERE ARE UNIQUE -- NO HARDSHIPS CREATED BY THE APPLICATION OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE BY THIS PROPERTY AND, HOWEVER, AN UNIQUE STRUCTURE TO HAVE A STRUCTURE BUILT PRIOR TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE PRIOR TO THE REAR YARD.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THAT STRUCTURE AND USE IT AS A STUDIO BUT IT HAS THE FACILITIES TO BE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS LIVING THERE OR NOT.

AND THAT IS THE REASON IT IS BEFORE YOU AS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I THINK THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COMPANY AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR LOGAN? OKAY.

OPEN TO THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE

APPLICANT. >> HOW ARE YOU ALL TODAY.

>> YOU CAN COME UP, SIR. >> OH, OKAY.

>> HELLO. ARE YOU ALL JUST ASKING IF I

HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? >> REALLY USUALLY -- WHEN AN APPLICANT COMES UP, THEY CAN EXPLAIN WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO

DO AND JUST -- >> YES, SIR.

SO AS LOGAN EXPLAINED TO YOU GUYS, WE -- THEY ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTING STRUCTURE IN PLACE WHEN THEY PURCHASED THE HOUSE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. AND THE EXPANSION THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WOULD FOLLOW EVERY REQUIREMENT BY THE CITY EXCEPT FOR THE REAR SETBACK. AND WE DO BELIEVE THIS WOULD GREATLY INCREASE PROPERTY VALUE IN THE AREA AS A LOT OF HOUSES AREN'T BEING REDONE IN THIS AREA WITH THE HOUSE HAVING SUCH A SMALL FOOTPRINT. IT WILL GREATLY HELP THE FAMILY OUT LIVING THERE AS WELL. THEY HAVE A LARGE FAMILY.

>> SO Y'ALL ARE JUST TRYING TO DO A STUDIO, LIKE, AN APARTMENT

OR JUST -- >> SO CURRENTLY IT IS JUST USED AS AN OFFICE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO ADD ON A BATHROOM AND

STORAGE ROOM. >> GOTCHA.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPL APPLICANT? THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU, Y'ALL. >> APPRECIATE IT.

OPEN TO PUBLIC DISCUSSION. CLOSE PUBLIC DISCUSSION.

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OPEN TO BOARD DISCUSSION. >> LOGAN, DID YOU HEAR FROM ANY

OF THE NEIGHBORS? >> DID NOT RECEIVE ANY

CORRESPONDENCE. >> HAVE YOU ALL TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS? THE ONE BEHIND YOU?

SIR? >> SIR, HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO ANY

OF THE NEIGHBORS? >> I AM THE HOMEOWNER.

MY WIFE -- WE HAVE NOT. >> GOTCHA.

>> SO I THINK THIS IS UNIQUE BECAUSE AN EXISTING LEGAL NONCONFORMITY. THIS ISN'T EXPANDING THE NONCONFORMITY. ADDED THAT THE SLOPE OF THE YARD REQUIRES THE ADDITION ON THE SIDE RATHER THAN ON THE FRONT. I WISH THE NEIGHBORS HAD BEEN CONSULTED. BUT THEY WERE NOTIFIED.

SO -- >> SPILL MOVE TO APPROVE PL 2021-00268 VARIANCE OF 12 FEET TO THE MINIMUM REQUIRED 42 REAR YARD SETBACK TO ALLOW REAR YARD SETBACK OF 30 FEET FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

>> FROST ROLLINS: YES. >> KIMBERLY WHITE: YES.

>> CLINT WILSON: YES. >> LATICIA KHALIF: YES.

>> THANK YOU, GUYS. >> THE NEXT CASE IN FRONT OF

[2. Variance to Table 5-2: Lot Area, Setback, Bulk Regulations and Parking Requirements: Neighborhood Conservation District of the City of Auburn Zoning Ordinance PL-2021-00283]

YOU IS A VARIANCE FOR FRONT SETBACKS LOCATED 121 SOUTH RYAN STREET IN THE NC-12 ZONING DISTRICT.

YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE MAP IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH RYAN STREET JUST NORTH OF EAST THAT MUCH AVENUE THAT IS SURROUNDED WITH OTHER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OF SIMILAR ZONING DISTRICT. THE -- THE CHARLESTON PLACE SUBDIVISION IS IMMEDIATELY TO ITS REAR, AND YOU HAVE THE URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD -- URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD EAST OFF TO THE WEST OF IT. THE SPECIFIC REQUEST IS A VARIANCE OF ONE FOOT EIGHT INCHES TO THE MINIMUM REQUIRED 30 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK TO THE FRONT YARD SETBACK.

NC-12 IF I HAVEN'T SAID IT ALREADY.

THE CURRENT STRUCTURE IS RIGHT AT THE SETBACK CURRENTLY.

AN EXPOSED FRONT STOOP IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO PUT A COVERED ROOF ON TOP OF, AND WOULD PREFER TO HAVE HIS SUPPORT STRUCTURES PLACED IN FRONT OF THE STOOP. AND DOING SO, IT WILL PUT IT -- IT IS -- HE WILL BE IN VIOLATION OF THE SET.

THEREFORE, NEEDS A VARIANCE. COUPLE OF ALTERNATIVES AT THE TOP OF THE STOOP. A THREE-FOOT OVERHANG ALLOWANCE THAT THE CITY DOES ALLOW WHICH THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TAMPA. AND WITH THAT SAID, HE -- BASED ON HIS DESIGN THAT HE IS PREFERRING HE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT TO THE FRONT. HAVE A COUPLE OF PICTURES.

THIS IS THE DESIGN THAT -- THE DESIGN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT STOOP THERE WITH THE FLOWER POTS ARE. PROXIMATE LOCATION WHERE THE PORCH STRUCTURES WILL GO. THE FRONT VIEW SAME.

THE PROPOSED PICTURE IS ANOTHER PICTURE THAT IS PROVIDED OF THE APPLICANT OF THE SAME STREET. SIMILAR STRUCTURE.

ONE DIFFERENCE IS THE SUPPORTS IN THE PICTURE IS AT THE TOP OF THE STOOP INSTEAD OF AT THE BOTTOM.

THERE ARE SOME UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH THE SIZE OF THE STREET IT IS ON, THE STREET IS A LOW COLLECTOR -- EXCUSE ME A LOCAL STREET, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY 50 FEET IN WIDTH IN RIGHT-OF-WAY AND IN THIS CASE 60 FEET.

AND THE PAVEMENT ITSELF, THOUGH, IS OF A STANDARD -- STAFF LOCAL STREET WHICH MEANS THERE ARE -- THERE IS -- THERE ARE MORE YARD ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PAVEMENT THAT IS TAKING

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PART IN CITY PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO THE HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE PROPERTY ITSELF WILL CONFORM WITH A LOT WITH THE -- WITH THE LOT SIZE MINIMUMS REQUIRED FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT.

>> BUT NOT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. >> THE PURPOSE OF THE PICTURE TO SHOW THE ROOF OVERHANG COMING IN LIMITED -- LIMITED TO THE STOOP ONLY AS OPPOSED TO BEING A LARGER FRONT EXPANSION

OF THE HOUSE. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT ONE?

>> THIS ONE? >> THE ONE HE PREVS, THE OWNER

PREFERS. >> THE DRAWING.

>> THAT IS THE SAME THING. HE DOESN'T WANT TO EXTEND THE HOUSE THREE FEET. HE JUST WANTS THE STOOP.

>> ON THE PICTURE THE COLUMNS ARE ON THE TOP AND HE IS

WANTING THEM. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE. SO DEPENDING ON YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> ANY COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT?

>> YES, PLEASE. >> HI, MY NAME IS BOB DOUGLAS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON.

JAY'S PICTURE ON THE VIDEO ARE BETTER THAN MINE AND BLACK AND WHITES THAT SHOW YOU WHAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IN MY MIND FOR EIGHT YEARS. WE BOUGHT THIS HOME IN 20 15.

AND I HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.

A MODERN PORCH. AND IF I PUT A TRADITIONAL PORCH ROOF ON THAT STOOP, IT WOULD BE AKIN TO A DEER STAND UP AGAINST THE DOUBLE-WIDE TRAILER AND WOULDN'T CREATE QUITE THE IMAGE I WAS LOOKING FOR.

WHAT YOU SEE IN THE FRONT. PAGE TWO SHOW THE INITIAL RENOVATION WHERE IT PUSHES IT OUT TO THE FRONT PORCH.

AND THAT NECESSITATED BUILDING THE STOOP OUT FRONT.

THE TOTAL EXTENSION OF THE STOOP IS 75 INCHES OFF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. 51 INCHES OF THAT IS ON THE TOP LEVEL OF THE STOOP. WHAT I EVENTUALLY FELL IN LOVE WITH IS THIS HOUSE AT 227 PAYNE STREET.

AND THAT IS REALLY THE LOOK WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE.

AND I THINK WE WILL IT WILL BE AN ADVANTAGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO CREATE A MORE VINTAGE LOOK FOR RYAN STREET.

PAYNE IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY VINTAGE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND GIVEN OUR RELATIVE PROXIMITY TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IF WE CONTINUE THAT THEME ON RYAN, IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.

OUR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE OF THIS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT AND WILL BELIEVE IT CAN ENHANCE THE ADDITION.

WHEN MY SON-IN-LAW IS MUCH BETTER THAN I AM, SO HE PHOTOSHOPPED THE COVERING FROM THE PAYNE STREET HOUSE ON TO OUR HOME ON RYAN. AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE PICTURED HERE. BUT AS JAY WAS DETAILING, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MOVE THE POSTS OUT ALONG THE FLANKERS TOWARD THE LEADING EDGE OF THE STOOP.

AND THOSE TWO EIGHT-INCH POSTS WOULD THEREFORE COME FORWARD OF THE SETBACK LINE BY ONE FEET -- ONE FOOT EIGHT INCHES.

MAY NOT NEED ALL 20 INCHES. MIGHT GET AWAY WITH 17 OR 18, BUT MY BUILDER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH JOHN HORE WHICH IS SORT OF THE PERMITTING GURU TO PROPERLY SECURE THE POSTS AGAINST W WINDLIFF, WE WOULD HAVE TO PARTIALLY DECONSTRUCT, TAKE THE BRICKS OFF, AND FILL THE CONCRETE BELOW THE CONCRETE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BRICKS WE ARE GOING TO PEEL OFF THE STOOP AND HOW THAT WILL GO BACK AND I CAN'T BE PREVICE BUT TWO INCHES AND WILL HAVE A 18-INCH VARIANCE INSTEAD OF 20.

I WOULD FURTHER SMITH THAT IN THE WAY OF HARDSHIP, I THINK WE WILL BE LUCKY AT THE TIME WE BUILT THE STOOP, FOUND VINTAGE

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BRICK. AND THE CHARMING THING OF OLD BRICK IS STUFF LIVES ON IT. EVERY NOW AND THEN PRESSURE WASH IT AND GETS SLIMY AND THAT SORT OF THING AND WE GET TO COVER THE TOP OF THE STOOP BUT THE STEPS.

IF WE CAN KEEP THAT FROM THE RAIN LAYING ON THOSE LIVING ORGANIZATIONS AND HELPING FEED THEM, I WOULD HAVE LESS OF A SLIP HAZARD ON THE STOOP. AND I THINK CREATE A GOOD LOOK FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU SEE MY HIGHLY PRECISE SCHEMATIC IS THE LAST PAGE, I BELIEVE.

AND WITH DOTTED LINE INDICATED WHERE THE ZONING SETBACK LINE WILL BE, AND I WILL SIMPLY LIKE TO MOVE THOSE TWO EIGHT-INCH POST 20 INCHES FORWARD TOWARD THE STREET.

THOSE POST ALSO BE, AS JAY POINTED OUT, 43 FEET, FOUR INCHES OFF THE CURB BECAUSE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL 15-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT RYAN REQ REQUIRES.

SO I THINK THAT IS OUR REQUEST. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I WILL

BE HAPPY TO RESPOND. >> THE STOOP IN THIS PHOTO --

>> YES. >> -- THE ACTUAL BRICK WILL BE AS PICTURED. WE ARE ADDING A COLUMN AND THE ROOF. THE SMALLER POTS WITH WHAT I CALL THE FLANKER, THAT IS WHERE THE COLUMN WILL BE.

I MIGHT ADD BECAUSE OF DEEPER SETBACK OFF THE CURVE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS AND GRASS UP TO THE HOUSE.

WE PROBABLY HAVE 20 TO 25- 25-FOOT-WIDE AREA IN FRONT OF HOUSE POPULATED WITH 12 TO 15 TREES.

THE HOUSE WILL NOT FEEL LIKE IT IS SITTING ON TOP OF THE CURB OR PASSING MOTORISTS OR NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I MIGHT RESPOND TO?

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

>> CLINT, I DID FAIL TO MENTION THAT I DID HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH. AND SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION. NOBODY AGAINST.

>> NOBODY AGAINST. >> CLINT WILSON: OPEN TO PUBLIC DISCUSSION. OKAY.

CLOSE PUBLIC DISCUSSI DISCUSSION/HEARING.

OPEN THE BOARD DISCUSSION. >> THAT WAS MY FAULT, I STARTED

ASKING QUESTIONS. >> I THINK IT LOOKS.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE PRESENTATION AND PACKET HE PRESENTED.

>> I THINK THE ROAD ON RYAN BEING -- NOT EXCESSIVE BUT ROBUST BEING AN UNIQUE SITUATION.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT AND WELL PRESENTED.

>> ALL RIGHT, YOU WANT ME TO DO IT.

I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE PL-2021-00283 VARIANCE TO ONE FOOT, EIGHT INCH TO THE MINIMUM REQUIRED 30 FRONT YARD SETBACK TO ALLOW A FRONT YARD SETBACK OF 28 FEET, 4 INCH.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR GUIDING ME

[3. Variance to Table 5-2: Lot Area, Setback, Bulk Regulations and Parking Requirements: Neighborhood Conservation District of the City of Auburn Zoning Ordinance PL-2021-00293]

THROUGH THE PROCESS. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THE APPLICANT COULD NOT ATTEND THE MEETING TONIGHT SO THEY HAVE ASKED TO TABLE IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

>> ANY OTHER BUSINESS? >> NO, SIR.

>> CLINT WILSON: I GUESS WE ARE ADJOURNED.

-- SORRY, MOVE TO TABLE PL-2021-00293 TO NEXT MONTH'S MEETING. JULY 7.

>> FROST ROLLINS: YES. >> KIMBERLY WHITE: YES.

>> CLINT WILSON: YES. >> LATICIA KHALIF: YES.

>> CLINT WILSON: ANYTHING E ELSE? WE ARE ADJOURNED. TAP

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.