Jul 06, 2021 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER.]

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IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE IS EVERYONE READY TO ADJOURNED? WE ARE ADJOURNED FOR THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.

AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF THE CITY OF AUBURN JULY 6, 2021.

ROLL CALL.

>> WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE RECITE OF THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU, PLEASE BE SEATED. WE WILL BEGIN MAYOR AND COUNCIL

[4. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS.]

AND SERVICE AWARDS. >> MAYOR, DUE TO SOME AUDIOVISUAL DIFFICULTIES, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OFFER SAID VIDEO TONIGHT AND WOULD LOVE TO HONOR OUR EMPLOYEES AT THE NEXT

MEETING. >> OKAY WE WILL MOVE FORWARD.

WE HAVE FOUR OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEES WHO WORK FOR US IN A NUMBER OF YEARS.ND OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

WILL MOVE AHEAD, WE REAPPOINTED THOMAS SPARROW, MARLENE BOWNAN AND NANCY DAVIS AND WE WERE ASKED TO CONSIDER LOOKING INTO THE PARKING SITUATION AT AUBURN HIGH SCHOOL.

AND WE HAVE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED SOME TIME TO SPEND ON THAT. THAT MIGHT END UP BEING A WORK SESSION WITH THE COUNCIL AND MAYBE MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD OR SCHOOL OFFICIALS. WE'LL SEE IF WE PUT THIS ON THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

>> YOU MADE A LITTLE ERROR. OU CALLED ME MR. WHITMAN.

>> I APOLOGIZE! MR. DIXON.

PLEASE GET THAT RIGHT, LINDSAY. THANK YOU ALL! NOTHING LIKE TRYING TO BE SERIOUS AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU IS LAUGHING AT YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS.

THAT I WANTED TO MAKE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

I WANT TO JUST TELL YOU ALL WE HAD A GREAT MEETING AND MOBILE WITH THE BIG TEN MAYORS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

I WAS PROUD TO TAKE OUR CITY MANAGER AND PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR AND POLICE CHIEF TO MOBILE.

VERY PROUD OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE AND THE WAY THEY REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY.I HOPE IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OF US AS WE GOT TO SPEND TIME WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO DO THE JOBS AROUND THE STATE.

I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR FOR HOSTING US.

THE FIREWORKS OF THE NIGHT WERE SPECTACULAR AS ALWAYS.

I WANT TO THANK ALL THE CITY STAFF AND DEPARTMENTS THAT SPENT TIME PROVIDING A SAFE AND FUN ATMOSPHERE FOR OUR FAMILIES TO ENJOY. IT WAS A GREAT NIGHT AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY JOINING US.

AUBURN YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD WILL HOST THE FIRST EVER NEIGHBORHOOD CONFERENCE, THE DATE FOR THAT IS AUGUST 21.

IT O'CLOCK UNTIL 1:30 PM AT THE HARRISON AND FRANK BROWN RECREATION CENTER. I WOULD JUST READ THIS WHEN YOU GET THE OPEN LINE THIS WEEK THERE'S A NICE ARTICLE ABOUT THIS. THE WORK SESSION WILL PROVIDE VALUABLE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY SERVICES AND RESOURCES FOR NEIGHBORHOODS. TACKLE TOPICS LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY AND NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT.

AS WELL AS INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS ON THINGS LIKE WATER QUALITY, RECYCLING AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE. FOR FULL WORK SESSION INFORMATION, YOU CAN VISIT AUBURN ALABAMA.ORG/NEIGHBORHOOD ÃCONFERENCE. I APPRECIATE THE STAFF PUTTING THIS TOGETHER HOPE IT WILL BE A RICH OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY WORKS AND HOW WE CAN BE MORE HELPFUL TO MAKE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. ALSO WANT TO COMPLEMENT OUR CITY STAFF. THEY REALLY PUT TOGETHER OUR POPULAR FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE YEAR.

YOU GET A COPY OF THIS AT CITY HALL, ALSO AVAILABLE ONLINE.

IT GIVES YOU A GREAT SNAPSHOT OF HOW YOUR CITY IS DOING RIGHT NOW FINANCIALLY AND IT SHOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US, I THINK OUR FINANCE STAFF DOES A GREAT JOB.

THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND I IMAGINE THERE SOME OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES THAT PARTICIPATE IN MAKING THIS DOCUMENT SO THANK YOU.

YOU PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING VERY EASY TO READ AND REPRESENTS OUR COMMUNITY VERY WELL. I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE FIRE CHIEF FROM ORANGE BEACH. JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU. IT WAS DATED JUNE 22.

THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT HE SAID, HE GAVE ME A CHALLENGE COIN THAT YOU MIGHT SEE COMMONPLACE IN TODAY'S SOCIETY.

HE SAYS PLEASE ACCEPT THIS CHALLENGE COIN AS A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

SUPPORTING OUR DEPARTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE AFTERMATH OF HURRICANE SALLY. SEPTEMBER 16, 2020 BROUGHT ENORMOUS CHALLENGES TO OUR STAFF AND CITY.

THE RESPONSE TO THIS DISASTER SAVE LIVES AND SHOWED COMPASSION AND SUPPORT FROM INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOU AND YOUR STAFF.THIS SUPPORT DURING OUR TIME OF NEED WAS WITHOUT QUESTION THE MOST POWERFUL AND INSPIRING MOMENT I'VE BEEN THROUGH IN MY YEARS IN THE FIRE SERVICE.

I WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT YOU DID FOR THIS COMMUNITY, DEPARTMENT AND FOR ME PERSONALLY.

THESE CHALLENGE COINS ARE ONLY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO ARE PART OF THE RESPONSE. PLEASE KNOW THAT I POSSESS AND

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I APPRECIATE THAT IT IS OBVIOUSLY, REFLECTING OR FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFF WHO WE SENT DOWN TO ORANGE BEACH TO HELP IN A VERY DESPERATE AND A DIFFICULT TIME OF NEED.

CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR FIVE STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL HIM THANK YOU FOR THEIR GREAT WORK AND RECOGNITION.

AND I APPRECIATE THEM SHARING THIS WITH ME.

THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OVER THE LAST DECADE HAS HAD THE MAYOR'S BALL WHICH IS BEEN THE PRIMARY FUNDRAISER.

THEY HAVE CHANGED THIS EVENT AND IT IS THE GREAT FUTURES GALA JULY 29 AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

I ENCOURAGE YOU, YOU HAVE A GREAT TIME TO HAVE FUN AND SUPPORT A GREAT ORGANIZATION, THAT REALLY WORKS HARD ON BEHALF OF OUR CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUY A TICKET AND JOIN US THAT NIGHT.

THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, ALAN GREENE, HAD VOCAL COACH AND VOICE OF THE TIGERS WILL BE THERE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD CHAT.

THERE WILL BE A LIVE BAND AND A LOT OF GOOD FOOD AND REFRESHMENTS FOR ALL OF US. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO KICKOFF.

THE KICK OFF -- IN THE AUDITORIUM IF YOU SIGNED UP TO BE PART OF THE TEAMS FOR AUBURN 2040 THAT WILL BE THE NIGHT OF THE KICKOFF AND WE NEED YOU TO BE THERE THAT EVENING.

I APPRECIATE OUR SIGN UP WE HAD A GREAT RUSH OF NAMES THAT JOINED US THERE IN THE LAST FEW DAYS.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO AUBURN 2040 KICKING OFF EVEN THOUGH IT'S ABOUT ONE YEAR LATE. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR PARTICIPATING IN THANK THE STAFF AND TEAM CAPTAINS THAT WILL BE HELPING US OUT. AND MS. CONNIE DIDN'T TAPER JUNETEENTH WHEN OUTSTANDING! I LIKE TO PASS IT OVER TO YOU RIGHT NOW SO IF YOU LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS REGARDING THAT.

>> YES, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE THAT SHOWED UP AND CAME OUT. AND ENJOYED ALL OF THE FESTIVITIES WE HAD IN THE PARK ON JUNE 19.

THAT WAS SATURDAY. WE HAD A GREAT CELEBRATION.

I WANT TO ALSO THINK AGAIN, THE MAYOR FOR THE PROCLAMATION AND FOR BEING THERE. I LIKE TO THANK MEGAN FOR BEING THERE. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN PARSON AND COUNCILMAN -- AND HIS WIFE.

ANNA. AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THEIR GREAT DONATION. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK -- FOR BEING THERE AND HER DAUGHTERS CORNBREAD.

I GOT COMPLIMENTS ABOUT THE CORNBREAD! SO, BUT I DO WANT TO THANK, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO TAKES CARE OF THE PARKS AND STUFF BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT IS THE PARK AND RECREATION OR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, BUT WHOEVER BETWEEN THE TWO OF Y'ALL, YOUR STAFF DID A GREAT JOB AND HAVING IT CLEANED UP AND EVERYTHING.

THE ONLY ONE PROBLEM I HAD, IT'S A MILD PROBLEM BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN EVENTS ARE SCHEDULED OUT THERE, WE JUST NEED THE BATHROOMS OPEN.AKE SURE THE BATHROOMS ARE OPEN. THAT IS THE ONLY PROBLEM.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE YARD AND EVERYTHING, THE GRASS WAS CUT. BUT WE REALLY HAD A GREAT TIME FOR THE WEATHER. EVEN THOUGH THE WEATHER, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO PERMIT US TO HAVE IT BUT IT DID AND I WANT TO THANK MEGAN AGAIN FOR TRYING TO GET ANOTHER VENUE THAT DID NOT WORK OUT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT NEXT YEAR WHEN WE DO JUNETEENTH, WE WILL HAVE A RAIN DATE. WE WILL HAVE ALL THAT COVERED! THIS TIME WE DID NOT HAVE ONE. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK, I SEE REVEREND LEWIS OUT THERE. WE DID OUR BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM AND WE WANT TO THANK HIM FOR SHOWING UP AND BEING THERE AND HE DID A COUPLE OF SONGS FOR US.

AND I GOT MY TWO SONS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, RAISE YOUR HAND. SO -- [LAUGHTER] I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR BEING PART OF IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU AGAIN.

>> AND THAT'S WHY DON'T LIKE TO START CALLING NAMES BECAUSE I

[5. AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS.]

YOU! >> THANK YOU CONNIE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS EVENING? OKAY WE WILL MOVE AHEAD TO AUBURN UNIVERSITY

COMMUNICATIONS. >> HI EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AGAIN. I HOPE YOU HAD A HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY WEEKEND. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL AND AUBURN FOR FIREWORKS. FRESHMAN ORIENTATION IS FINISHED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY HAVE 14 IN PERSON SESSIONS, THREE VIRTUAL SESSIONS, IT WAS IMMENSELY SUCCESSFUL. 11,000 PEOPLE WERE WELCOMED TO AUBURN AND HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WILL GO BACK TO THE 10 SESSION ALL SUMMER THING. IT WAS A REALLY GREAT TIME, I HAD A LOT OF FUN. RECENTLY, THIS YEAR AND AUBURN

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I CAN'T WAIT TO GET BACK IN THE STADIUM AND WATCH HER PERFORM.

I WANTED TO QUICKLY MENTION LAUREN BRADFORD SHE JUST GRADUATED IN 2020 FROM ARBOR UNIVERSITY WITH A DEGREE IN FINANCE. SHE JUST WON THE TITLE OF MISS ALABAMA. SHE SAYS SHE'S VERY HUMBLED AND PROUD TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT AUBURN UNIVERSITY THIS DECEMBER AT THE MISS AMERICA PAGEANT. I'M REALLY PROUD OF HER SHE IS SUPER SWEET. AND RECENTLY AUBURN SCHOOL OF NURSING JUST EARNED THE TOP RANKING IN THE STATE AUBURN UNIVERSITY IS ABOUT NURSING SCHOOL. DEFINITELY KNOW THAT I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS IN THE NURSING PROGRAM AND THEY PLAYED HUGE HELP IN COVID-19 GETTING COMMUNITY VACCINATED.

I'M PROUD OF THEM. QUICKLY IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SUMMER FUN FESTIVAL AT THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER NEXT TUESDAY THAT RATATOUILLE. IF ANYONE IS INTO THAT.

FAMILY, FRIENDS FUN EVENT. IT WILL BE ART AND FOOD, A NICE GET TOGETHER OUTSIDE. LASTLY, WE ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE CLICK OFF OF 2040 NEXT WEEK.

STUDENTS ON ALL OF THOSE COMMITTEES AND WE ARE EXCITED TO WORK WITH THEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[6. CITIZENS’ COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS.]

>> THANK YOU WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

AT THIS TIME YOU OPEN UP FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS. REMEMBER THIS IS JUST SPECIFIC TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT. IF YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL PLEASE COME FORWARD GIVEN NAME AND ADDRESS AND WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. OKAY.

SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL MOVE AHEAD.

OKAY, GO AHEAD. I APOLOGIZE.

I LOOKED DOWN WHEN YOU GOT UP. >> MY NAME IS CHRIS CYR, -- I LIKE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON NUMBER NINE.

PROPOSED BEFORE THE COUNCIL. BASICALLY, THERE ARE 239 HOMES EXISTING HOMES IN THE SUBDIVISION.

WHEN IT'S BUILT UP TO BE 261. HIS ITEM PROPOSES AN ADDITIONAL 201 HOMES TO BE BUILT BEHIND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WITH THE PRIMARY ACCESS ACTUALLY THE ONLY ACCESS, THROUGH THE SAME ACCESS WE HAVE EXISTING NOW FOR THE SUBDIVISION. THERE IS A TURN LANE COMING FROM THE AUBURN AREA BUT NOT ONE COMING FROM WEST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I APOLOGIZE, I WAS MADE AWARE OF THIS PACKET LAST NIGHT AND DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH IT A LOT. NOR HAVE WE HAD TIME TO REVIEW WITH THE MEMBERS, MEMBERSHIP AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO REALLY REVIEW ITS IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE PROPOSAL IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THEN SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE SUGGESTED WITH THE CITY MAY BE ATTEMPTING TO DO. AND I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE REASONS BEHIND THAT. BUT WE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO REVIEW IT BEFORE THE COUNCIL VOTES ON IT.

SO YOU GUYS CAN BE MADE AWARE OF ALL OF OUR CONCERNS IN THE

AREA. >> THANK YOU.

WITH THAT SHIRT ON A SHOW RECOGNIZE YOU STANDING UP! I APOLOGIZE. ANYONE ELSE?[INAUDIBLE]

>> IT IS NOT. THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ADVERTISE BECAUSE IT IS THE SECOND READING AND YOU DO NOT HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

>> OKAY WHEN IT COMES UP WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE ELSE? DO NOT WANT TO MISS ANYONE.

[7. CITY MANAGER’S COMMUNICATIONS. City Manager Crouch.]

>> YOU SKIPPED MIKE MEDICATIONS.

>> I APOLOGIZE! CITY MANAGERS COMMUNICATIONS.

AM STRUGGLING TONIGHT I APOLOGIZE.

>> THIS ITEM WAS ON THE DAIS, THERE IS A NEW ONE THAT SHOULD READ PARKING TIME LIMITS AND METER PAY STATIONS COME AT LEAST COST IT WILL BE IN ITEM 9B ON THE AGENDA.

[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA.]

>> PLEASE APPEAR. >> ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WANT TO REMOVE AN ITEM AND DEAL WITH IT INDIVIDUALLY?

>> YES, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER.

I LIKE TO MOVE 8D5 AND 8D9. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE ON THE COUNCIL LIKE TO REMOVE AN ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> MAYOR, EIGHT D5 AUTHORIZES THE PURCHASE FOR THE SOCCER

COMPLEX FROM ACE HARDWARE. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND PAIR.> MOTION AND SECOND.

QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU.

I NOTICED ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE PACKET, THE VARIOUS

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WITH THE GAS VERSION IT WOULD BE MADE IN AMERICA AND THE DIESEL WOULD BE MADE IN JAPAN. IS THERE SOME SPECIFIC REASON THAT WE PREFER THE DIESEL OVER THE GAS?

FOR SAVINGS OF $8000? >> ALL HAVE OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR SPEAK TO THAT.

>> OUR ATHLETIC FACILITY SUPERINTENDENT HAD A SIMILAR MOWER TO THIS. WHEN HE WAS WITH THE CITY OF MONTGOMERY AND GOT GREAT SERVICE.

AND FELT THAT IT WAS THE MOST EFFECTIVE PURCHASE AND THAT IS

WHY WE CHOSE THAT. >> OKAY $34,000 FOR A MOWER REALLY KIND OF -- IT REALLY STRIKES, COMES HOME PRETTY

SIGNIFICANTLY. >> ONE OF THE THINGS IT WILL DO IS, IT WILL FREE UP SOME OF THE OTHER MOWERS THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING AT SOCCER. SO THEY CAN BE USED FOR OTHER FACILITIES. SO THAT SHOULD, AND ALSO WILL BE SAVINGS AND THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THIS MOWER AND CUT ALL OF THE FIELDS. SO WE ARE NOT PUTTING TWO AND THREE PEOPLE OUT THERE CUT THE FIELDS.

>> BUT BECKY, ISN'T IT -- WE CAN MOW THE FIELDS THREE TIMES

A WEEK PER YOUR MEMO. >> YES, THAT IS A BIG

ADVANTAGE. >> WITH ONE PERSON OPERATING.

>> RIGHT, AND IT WILL MAKE THE GRASS GROW THICKER BY DOING

THAT. >> COUNCILPERSON GRISWOLD, ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES, THE SOCCER FIELDS IN DISREPAIR WE HAD A LOT OF VERY UPSET CITIZENS ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE BEEN TOO MUCH TO GET THE FIELDS IN EXTREME, THEY WERE EXTREMELY BAD CONDITION AND NOW THEY ARE IN VERY GOOD TURFGRASS STYLE CONDITION. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS FROM AUBURN UNIVERSITY HAVE BEEN CONSULTING WITH US.

THEY'RE GATHERING I THINK IT IS NEXT WEEK.

OUR TEAM OF EXPERTS TO KIND OF REVIEW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

WE HAVE LIMITED PLAY, NO PLAY ON THE FIELDS TO GET THEM IN BETTER SHAPE. PART OF THAT AND PART OF THE CONDITION IS NOT THE SPECIFIC MOWER, COUNCILPERSON GRISWOLD, BUT BETTER MOWERS. THERE BEEN SOME DISCUSSION AND SOME CITIZENS WERE INTERESTED IN US USING WHAT IS CALLED A REAL MOWER. IT IS REEL MOWER. MY CALIFORNIA ACCENT WILL MAKE THAT UP FOR YOU.

IT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SHARPEN BLADES AND WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO THAT.

AUBURN UNIVERSITY USES THOSE BUT THOSE ARE VERY SIMILAR IN COST. THE REEL MOWER.

WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE SOCCER COMPLEX IS IN THE BEST SHAPE POSSIBLE FOR YOUR ROUND PLAN BIG TOURNAMENT.

IT IS PART OF IT AND YES IT IS EXPENSIVE.

THE OTHER KEY THINGS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN ABSORB AN EXISTING BUDGET AND WE ARE NOT HAVING TO SHIFT ADDITIONAL

FUNDS TO PARK AND RECREATION. >> SORRY --

>> ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD'VE CONSIDERED WOULD HAVE BEEN AN IMPROVEMENT. THERE IS 20 OR SO LISTED HERE.

NLY TWO OF WHICH HAVE THE 96 INCH CUT.

THEN THERE IS 72 INCH CUTS, EVEN HALF THE PRICE OF SOME OF THIS. ANYWAY, THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN, THE PRICE OF THE MOWER.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE COUNCIL REGARDING THIS?

>> I DO AGREE. I GUESS I KIND OF JUST, YOU KNOW, WENT OFF THE RECOMMENDATION.

BUT NOW THAT COUNCILPERSON GRISWOLD BRINGS IT UP.

I MEAN, IT IS CURIOUS TO ME THE SAME DIMENSIONS, ONE IS ONE HORSEPOWER MORE THAN THE OTHER AND ONE IS GAS VERSUS DIESEL.

DO WE HAVE A BETTER PRICE ON DIESEL AND GAS? FROM, THAT WILL BE MY QUESTION. AND THEN, THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME, 96 INCH, ULTRA CUT REAR DISCHARGE WITH FLEX WINGS.

>> WAS THIS ALSO SOMETHING WE COULD GET A HOLD OF? THROUGH THESE PURCHASING CO-OPS, DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN SOMETHING IS AVAILABLE. WE ALSO AN ATTEMPT TO USE A LOCAL VENDOR AND UNIVERSITY ACE HARDWARE AS OPPOSED TO SOMEONE FROM TEXAS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S

PLAYING A ROLE? >> IT IS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO LOCATE THE MOWER AND WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT.

WE DECIDED TO PURCHASE. >> IS AN INVENTORY ISSUE, BECKY, OR NO? WHAT THEY'RE ASKING WAS A CHEAPER MOWER AVAILABLE THAT DOES THE SAME THING?

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>> THE MORE THAT WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IS THE MOWER THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA. IF THEY WANT US TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE OTHER MOWER, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO DELAY AND HAVE THEM GO BACK AND SEE THAT MOWER IF IT IS AVAILABLE.

>> BECKY, CAN UNIVERSITY ACE HARDWARE ALSO PROVIDE ICE

ON THIS? >> YES THEY SERVICE EVERYTHING

THEY SELL. >> I'M ALL FOR SUPPORTING LOCAL. I JUST HAVE THE, SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP, IT WAS CURIOUS. BECAUSE OUR AGENDA DOES NOT TELL US WHERE THEY COME FROM. YOU KNOW IT JUST DOES NOT SAY WHERE THE LASER ZX SERIES COMES FROM LIKELY THE PROVIDER IS.

>> IS A SOURCING ISSUE TOO THROUGH THE COOPERATIVE.

IT IS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED. IF YOU GUYS -- WE UNDERSTAND, WE CAN GET YOU MORE INFORMATION.

>> IF WE WERE TO HOLD THIS OFF, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT DELAY CITY -- WITH WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO WITH THE MOWER?

>> WELL, IT WILL BE PROBABLY -- IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ANOTHER MONTH BEFORE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO START CUTTING THE GRASS

THREE TIMES A WEEK. >> IS THAT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE

FOR US? >> YEAH.

>> OKAY. >> IT IS, WE'RE JUST GETTING THE FIELDS BACK TO WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE AND THAT IS A CHALLENGE WE HAVE HAD TO GET THEM HERE.

AND NOW PEOPLE, THEY LOOK REALLY NICE BUT PART OF THIS DEAL WAS NOT JUST TO SPEND MONEY TO GET THE FIELDS IN BETTER SHAPE. SOME OF IT JUST HAD TO DO WITH PRE- EMERGING AND OTHER THINGS. THIS IS A SYSTEM WHERE WE WILL BE AERATING AND DOING THINGS DIFFERENT.

AND THIS WILL SAVE US MONEY IN THE LONG RUN IF WE MOW.

YOU DON'T FILE PERCEIVED SAVINGS HERE BUT THERE WILL BE IN THE LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE IF WE DO THIS, BY A NEW PROGRAM WE ARE TRYING TO FOLLOW. AND SO, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS ADDRESS A STRONG CONCERN FROM THE SOCCER PLAYING COMMUNITY ABOUT THE ABILITY TO PLAY OUT THERE IS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND THIS MOWER DOES PLAY A ROLE IN THAT.

>> SOCCER IS OBVIOUSLY A FALL SPORT IS ALSO THERE WILL BE A FULL SCHEDULE OF GAMES AND ACTIVITIES AND POTENTIALLY WEAKENED TOURNAMENTS OUT THERE THIS FALL.

>> THEY WILL BE WANTING TO GET BACK ON THE FIELDS IN AUGUST.

HATEVER WE DO, WE NEED TO HAVE THEM READY TO GO IN AUGUST AND WE HAVE ANOTHER SESSION, A DRESSING AND AERATING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE THEM. AND CUTTING AND WE WILL BE MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THE AUBURN FOLKS, TO LOOK TO SEE IF WE NEED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE DRAINAGE AND SUCH.

>> IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE MODEL PRICES, THE SAVINGS IS

SUGGESTED. >> WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW.

THE SOURCE, THE WAY THESE WORK WITHOUT HAVING, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PARTISAN COOPERATIVE. THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT YOU ARE SEEKING AND THERE'S A LOT THAT

GOES INTO IT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? >> I WOULD LIKE -- [INAUDIBLE]

>> I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE 96 INCH CUTTING AREA IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL LAWNMOWER. I THINK IT'S ATTRACTIVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THESE DEPRECIATE ORPHIC COMES INTO PLAY IN THE BUDGET BUT I WOULD DEFER TO A DIESEL ENGINE FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES. THE DEPRECIATION WILL HAVE A

MUCH LONGER LIFESPAN. >> WE DON'T DEPRECIATE QUITE THE SAME WAY ACCORDING TO THE FINANCE RECORDS.

BUT WE DO, WE TRY HARD TO GET EQUIPMENT THAT WE CAN KEEP FOR

THE LONG-TERM. >> YOU WILL GET A LOT MORE

YEARS OUT OF A DIESEL ENGINE. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY ALL IN FAVOR?

ANY OPPOSED? >> ALL RIGHT.

NOW, HOLD ON. ITEM 8D9 THE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENT WITH EDGAR HUGHSTON BUILDER, INC. FOR PLAINSMAN

LAKE AGREEMENT. >> WILL START.

>> THANK YOU. I PROPOSE WE POSTPONE THIS TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND THE REASON BEING THAT THE PACKET AND EVERYTHING CAME OUT OVER THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND.

2 JULY I BELIEVE WE RECEIVED OUR COPY.

THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN LOOKING AT THIS. THE AGREEMENT ITSELF, IT DOES QUITE A FEW GREAT THINGS FOR THE CITY, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

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I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE HOMEOWNERS TO SEE THE PLANS, PERHAPS MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER, PERHAPS WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE CITY STAFF AND POSTPONE THIS TO THE

NEXT MEETING, PLEASE. >> SECOND PER.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND TO POSTPONE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING IN TWO WEEKS. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM

COUNSEL ON THIS ACTION? >> I AGREE WITH COUNCILPERSON GRISWOLD. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THERE IS A SYMBIOTIC UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER, THE RESIDENTS, I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND, AND EVALUATE OPTIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE. AND OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE A BETTER PROCESS FOR ALL INVOLVED.

I RECOMMEND POSTPONING AS WELL. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL?

>> WEREN'T WE TALKING ABOUT THIS SOMETIME BACK?

>> WE HAVE THE ACTING PLANNING DIRECTOR TO SPEAK TO THAT.

DO YOU RECALL -- EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ONE OF THE TWO CAN SPEAK TO THAT. WHAT DO WE APPROVE PREVIOUSLY? WHAT DID WE AGREED TO ABOUT PLAINSMAN LAKE FROM THE ZONING PERSPECTIVE? [INAUDIBLE]

>> RIGHT AND SUBDIVISION PLATS ARE NOT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO APPOINT PART OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS WERE THAT THEY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THEN I WILL HAVE SCOTT CUMMINGS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT EXPLAIN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY MONTHS NOW.

SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS? >> I THINK ABOUT A YEAR AND 1/2. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING WORKING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

IT REFLECTS A PRELIMINARY LAYOUT SUBMITTED WITH REZONING REQUEST. NOTHING IS REALLY CHANGED LONG WITH THAT. WE HAVE EXHAUSTED QUITE A BIT OF TIME BETWEEN STAFF WORKING WITH DEVELOPER AND THE ENGINEER. WORKING WITH ALDOT, CSX, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN COMMUNICATION TO GET TO THIS POINT. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ADDRESSES THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS.

THAT WE FEEL NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN.

IT DOES NOT REFLECT THE PLAT WHICH IS YET TO BE SUBMITTED WITHOUT -- IT IS REALLY, MAINLY TO ADDRESS THE CONNECTOR AND YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH CONTRIBUTION THE DEVELOPERS WILLING TO PAY, THE DONATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY AND SOME OF THOSE PROPONENTS.

A LOT OF THE REST OF IT WILL PAN ITS WAY OUT THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS. AS WELL AS THE -- PROCESS VERSUS THE ENGINEERING STAFF WILL BE EXTENSIVELY DEALING

WITH THOSE MATTERS. >> DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE

TO ADD? >> YES, IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT IS NOT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

>> I APOLOGIZE. I THINK FOR THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND A SUBDIVISION PLAT REQUEST SUBMITTED, IT COULD RUN SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT GOING ON.

ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS TO NOTE IS ALL ALONG HERE, AS WE ARE DISCUSSING, THIS IS ALABAMA, STATE OF ALABAMA RIGHT-OF-WAY AND NOT THE CITY OF AUBURN.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER ALDOT APPROVAL OF CURB CUTS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS ETC. A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WAS YOU KNOW, AS YOU ARE AWARE, WAS DENIED AT THE ENTRANCE.

AND ONE OF THE REALLY CHALLENGING THINGS ABOUT THIS IS WITHOUT MORE TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THERE IT WILL NOT WARRANT. SO, WHILE THIS IS FRUSTRATING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TOTALLY UNDERSTOOD IF MORE TRAFFIC DOESN'T COME OUT OF THE ENTRANCE, IT WILL NOT WARRANT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL PER THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS. IT'S A CHICKEN AND EGG SITUATION AS WELL. THERE ARE ALSO ASPECTS IN THE AGREEMENT THAT NOT ALL THE HOUSES WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THAT AREA AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

THE CITY DID NOT BUILD A CONNECTOR WHERE THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE TO BUILD THE FIRST BIT OF IT TO FURTHER CONNECT AND THAT IS ALL COVERED IN HERE AND IS PART OF WHAT IS TAKING SO LONG. A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH TO ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. THERE'S ALSO A CONSTRUCTION ACCESS ENTRANCE IN HERE. IT IS VERY MUCH REQUESTED THE DEVELOPERS BEEN AMENABLE BUT AGAIN WE WERE LYING ON ALDOT TO

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AND WE HOPE THEY WILL APPROVE IT BUT IT IS NOT A GUARANTEE.

JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. PREVIOUSLY, THERE HAD BEEN A MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER. WE WILL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO BUT THE TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ARE BASICALLY INFRASTRUCTURE BASIS. THE CHALLENGE WITH TRAFFIC IN THOSE CONCERNS RELY ON THE CITY ENGINEER AND WHAT HER LENSES ON THIS AND WHAT TRAFFIC STUDIES SAY AND ARE NOT TYPICALLY RESOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THOSE COME A CITY ENGINEERING STANDARD OF WHICH WE NEED TO HOLD PEOPLE TO FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT AND NOT THAT IF WE CANNOT JUST SAY 25 YOU MUST DO THIS IT HAS TO BE TIED BACK TO

SOMETHING. >> ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS

HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION? >> POSTPONE, WILL THAT HURT THE AGREEMENT? [INAUDIBLE]

>> I CANNOT SAY. YOU HAVE TO TALK TO DEVELOPERS AND THEIR PLANS FORWARD. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD FIT. THEY'RE WAITING ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN ORDER TO SOLIDIFY THE PLANS OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF WEIGHING-IN . WHAT THE CITY WILL EXPECT THEM TO COMMIT TO.

CONNECTOR. I THINK THE REQUEST BEFORE US IS JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THESE RESIDENTS HAVE LITTLE TIME TO DIGEST THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OVER A HOLIDAY WEEKEND. AND THAT IS NOT CLEARLY -- I MAY BE MISTAKEN AND I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE POINTED OUT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS POINT IS.

BECAUSE IT IS NOT CLEAR IN MY OPINION WITH WHAT IS BEFORE US.

AND I THINK IT IS JUST, I MEAN, HAVING HAD EXTREMES WITH A SIMILAR SITUATION, TO AN ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS A MATTER OF JUST COMFORT AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT.ND KNOWING THAT THESE WILL BE THE NEIGHBORS AND BETTER UNDERSTANDING. I DON'T THINK FROM THIS POINT, TO A DATE JULY 15, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE NEXT MEETING, THAT IT WOULD BE CREATING A HARDSHIP ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

OR THE DEVELOPER. >> MS. CROUCH, HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED? THE ENTRANCE?

IS IT SOMETHING THAT -- >> THERE IS NOTHING THAT'S BEEN SHOWN AT THIS POINT. THE GENERAL POINT WOULD BE ABOUT WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS INTO THAT PLACE.

THE, THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF WHAT IS SHOWN ON THE PLAT.

SECTION A WHICH I BELIEVE IS 70 HOUSES TO BE BUILT.

THIS, BUT AGAIN THIS IS CONTINUED ON ALDOT ALLOWING THE

CONSTRUCTION. >> OKAY SO WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY ALDOT TO HAVE A SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS.

>> YES, IT WOULD. >> OKAY.AVE WE ASKED THAT QUESTION OF ALDOT YET? WE HAVE?

THEY HAVE GIVEN US AN ANSWER? >> WE DID MENTION IT EARLY IN THE PROCESS. THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO TO A FORMAL PROCESS TO GET IT APPROVED.

>> OKAY. CANNOT BE DECIDED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS? ANYTHING IS A POSSIBILITY,

RIGHT? >> NO, NOT IN THIS CASE PEER WITH ALDOT, THAT HAVE TO FORMALLY SUBMIT A DOCUMENT.

TO THE DEVELOPER CHOSE TO DO THAT NEXT TWO WEEKS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE A RESPONSE THAT QUICKLY.

>> YET TO SUBMIT A FORMAL PLAN AND DOCUMENTS AND JUST DIFFERENT PAPERWORK AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEIR

PROCESS. >> COUNSEL NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND AND TO MAKE THAT DECISION MIGHT NOT BE CLEAR.

>> IT IS NOT GOING TO BE CLEAR THAT'S WHAT SHE IS SAYING.

ALDOT, EVEN IF IT IS SUBMITTED TOMORROW IT IS NOT IN A TIME

FRAME THAT IT WORKS. >> BUT IT IS OUR INTENT TO ASK THE QUESTION. CORRECT?

>> ASKING THE QUESTION, THE ONLY WAY TO GET A FORMAL ANSWER IS TO SUBMIT A FORMAL APPLICATION.

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>> GOTCHA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. NOTICED IN THE AGREEMENT BEFORE US, THE DEVELOPER WILL COMPLETE DESIGN FOR PROPOSED TERM LANES AND SIGNALS. THAT IS IN THE EVENT THAT WE

GET THE SECTION WARRANTED. >> ABSOLUTELY!

>> I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULDN'T REQUIRE THEM OR ASK THEM AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, ALSO, TO DEVELOP DESIGNS FOR ALTERNATIVE ENTRANCES INTO THIS AREA. THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK IS LACKING HERE. THE ABSENCE, THE PRESENCE OF A STOPLIGHT.INTO SECTION A, TO GET IN AND OUT.

PERHAPS IT WAS CONSIDERED UNDER WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN SOME MEETINGS WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS SEEN ON THIS. AS TO WHAT ALTERNATIVES MIGHT BE. AND TO ME IT IS CERTAINLY AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE. INFRASTRUCTURE SOMETHING TO BE

CONSIDERED IN THE DEVELOPMENT. >> A TALK ABOUT PERMANENT ACCESS? OKAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL LOOK AT, THIS IS THE REASON THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF WORKED SO HARD ON THIS.

AS A MATTER OF POLICY AND HIGH-SPEED ROADS SUCH AS THIS WE TRY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ACCESS POINTS ALL THAT WE CAN.

SO IF ALDOT WERE TO EVEN IMPROVE OR APPROVE THE CITY DOESN'T NORMALLY AND WOULD NOT NORMALLY WANT A BUNCH OF ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINTS ON THE HIGHWAY 14, WOULD WANT TO CHANNEL IT IN A WAY WHERE WE CAN GET SIGNAL INTERSECTIONS.

THIS GOES AGAINST OUR STANDARD ENGINEERING PRACTICES AND THE MANUALS AND SO ON. IT BEGS A LOT MORE QUESTIONS.

BUT THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT.

THIS IS AT A POINT WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF IS COMFORTABLE, IF YOU NEED MORE TIME WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS YOU'VE INDICATED. AND WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN BUT WE ALSO, DON'T WANT TO MAKE OTHER THINGS RUN AFOUL.

THAT'S WHY YOU OFTEN SEE THEM AND HE APPEARED PART OF THE REASON WHY WE DO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS.

ALSO THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS WANTING TO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS IN THE LANE OF CITY COUNCIL.

WE TRY TO DO ALL OF THIS AND KEEP INFRASTRUCTURE AND BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES KIND OF IN THE MANUALS AND SO ON.

AND GIVE YOU SOME NUANCES. THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND WE ARE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THIS WITH YOU FURTHER IN DETAIL. MAYBE WE DO WANT TO CONSIDER DOING THAT IN THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ALSO.

THAT EVENING WE CANNOT DO A QUICK PRESENTATION.

WHAT IT DOES AND DOES NOT MEAN AND RUN THROUGH THE PACES WITH YOU SO YOU CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN HERE FOR MARILYN'S.

IF THAT WOULD HELP. -- FROM OUR LENS, IF THAT WOULD

HELP. >> I THINK THAT IS A GREAT

IDEA. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

>> I THINK THE THINGS IN HERE, YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK AT THIS POINT. BUT THERE IS STILL SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE SUPPORT TO DELAY THIS FOR TWO WEEKS.

>> IF I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, WHAT POINT WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO BUILD THE CONNECTOR OF THE CITY, AND I KNOW IT IS A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER.

BECAUSE IT IS TIME AND TRAFFIC AND SO ON BUT WE WILL EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. THAT DATE CERTAIN WOULD BE JULY

20. >> IS AT THE NEXT MEETING?

>> YES. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A FEW

DAYS EARLY. >> I THINK ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEVELOPER IS IF WE HAVE IT AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AS A PRESENTATION TO UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE.THEIR PHASES, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED PLOTS.

BUT IF THEY COULD JUST GIVE US A GENERAL IDEA AND NOT IN UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THE FLUID SITUATION, JUST SO THE RESIDENCE AND COUNSEL CAN UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS ABC, 123, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S HOW THEY

WILL DEVELOP. >> THAT IS CORRECT BECAUSE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT IS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THIS MONTH. THAT PIECE.

AND THAT IS THE CONDITIONAL USE.

IT WILL COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE JULY 20 MEETING

AS WELL. >> OKAY.

>> IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOVES IT FORWARD.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL? BEFORE US IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS.

UNTIL JULY 20, CORRECT? A VOTE.

YOU CAN SUPPORT THAT OR NOT AND THEN MAJORITY WOULD COME BACK AND RECONSIDER THE BILL AGREEMENT.

EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON? ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS UNTIL JULY 20? ANY OPPOSED?

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I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.

>> MAYOR, UNDER ORDINANCES THIS EVENING ITEM --

>> ONE SECOND. >> SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.

[9. ORDINANCES.]

>> GO AHEAD. >> UNDER ORDINANCES ITEM 9A INCLUDES ORDINANCES WITH ARTICLE 2 DEFINITIONS ARTICLE -- SECTION 5-1-1 Ã04 THESE AMENDMENTS PERTAIN TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND PROVIDE DEFINITION FOR LODGING, OCCUPANCY AS WELL AS CLARIFICATIONS ON PROVISIONS THAT APPLY ONLY TO HOMESTAYS. A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT MR. DIXON HAS RECUSED HIMSELF.

>> THE SECOND READING SO WE NEED A MOTION.

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> MOTION.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU LIKE TO JUST CANCEL PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE

RECORD. >> HELLO COUNSEL, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL ALLOWING ME TO TALK. I'VE BEEN IN AUBURN ABOUT SIX

YEARS. >> NAME AND ADDRESS?

>> ROBERT WILKINS -- I WRITTEN EACH ONE OF AN EMAIL AND I HAVE ADDRESSED IT TO THE MAYOR. ABOUT 1 JUNE I BELIEVE.

AND I WANTED TO KIND OF REITERATE AND TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. I THINK SOMETIMES, WHEN DECISIONS ARE MADE SOMETIMES EVERYONE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES AND THE JUST WANT TO BE PART OF THAT ALL SIDES.

WE STARTED AIRBNB I GUESS IT WAS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2015.

AND WE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE IDEA OF SOMEONE COMING INTO OUR HOME. BECAUSE WE HAVE GUESTS THAT COME IN TO HAVE OUR WHOLE HOME. ANDWHEN THEY DO THAT OF COURSE, WE ALSO HAVE TO LEAVE OUR HOME AND IT IS OUR ONLY HOME .

BUT BECAUSE OF THE INCOME, MY WIFE WHO HAS NOT WORKED IN SIX YEARS AND ALSO IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO WALK MUCH. AND IT ALLOWED ME TO STAY HOME AND NOT HAVE TO BE YOU KNOW, GOING AROUND THE COUNTRYSIDE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I CAN DO THAT WOULD MAKE MORE INCOME BUT WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO HELP TAKE CARE OF HER.

SO THIS AIRBNB INCOME ALLOWS ME TO DO THAT.

ALSO, I DO OTHER THINGS IN THE AREA.

I DO THINGS LIKE POST MATES, WHICH IS DELIVERING FOOD AND SO FORTH. AND YOU KNOW MY AGE, I SHOULD BE DOING OTHER THINGS. I SHOULD BE LIVING OFF OF MY RETIREMENT BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THINGS DO HAPPEN.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS WHAT AIRBNB IS, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME FROM --

>> MR. WILKINS, LET ME INTERRUPT YOU.

THIS IS TIME FOR US TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT THE ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGES. THE LANGUAGE AND ORDINANCE.

I THINK YOUR COMMENTS ARE BEASTS BETTER SERVED AT THE END OF THE MEETING WE HAVE OPEN TIME TO TALK TO USABOUT ANYTHING. SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW .

>> I DID NOT REALIZE THAT. >> IT IS NO PROBLEM.

>> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- >> UNDERSTAND IS COMPLICATED.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME BACK AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

>> SO ABOUT TWO HOURS? >> WE WILL SEE.

PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING AND I TOLD HIM THEY HAVE THREE MINUTES.

I APOLOGIZE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS SPECIFICALLY ON THIS? THE LANGUAGE ON THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT?

>> I DO, MY NAME IS SUSAN -- I'VE TOLD YOU HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES. BUT TONIGHT I'M ASKING YOU TO BACK UP AND REVERSE WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND NOT GO FORWARD WITH THE CHANGES AND AMENDMENTS YOU ARE PROPOSING TONIGHT.

THE CREATION OF THE DEFINITIONS THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT TONIGHT, TRAMPLE ON PEOPLES RIGHTS.

THE MORE AMENDMENTS YOU HAVE, THE MORE CLEAR IT BECOMES.

THAT THERE IS NEITHER UNDERSTANDING OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL MODEL OR UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ADHERE TO THE CONSTITUTION. I FEEL YOU HAVE ALLOWED THE CANCEL CULTURE TO CREEPING WITH HIS AMENDMENT.

JUST BECAUSE ONE GROUPS MAKE THE MOST NOISE, DOESN'T MEAN

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WILL SAVE THEM. >> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS

THE COUNCIL? >> HELLO COUNSEL MY NAME IS JOSH POOLE I LIVE AT 334 HICKORY WOODS DRIVE, AUBURN.

I WILL NOT HARP LONG ON THIS BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO ECHO HER REQUEST THAT YOU FULLY REVERSE THE AMENDMENT AND NOT ADD ANY ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS TO IT. I WOULD LIKE THIS WHOLE THING

REVERSED AND OVERTURNED. >> THANK YOU, JOSH.

ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS? OKAY.

WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL?

>> WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HOMESTAYS, JUST TO CONFIRM, THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED HAD TWO, THERE WAS A HOMESTAY,

NON-OCCUPIED -- >> SHORT-TERM NONPRIMARY

RENTAL. >> WITH LIMITATIONS, THIS WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE NO MORE THAN 25 PERCENT OF TOTAL AREA MAXIMUM 500 SQUARE-FOOT, THE EXCEPTION ONLY FOR HOMESTEAD.

>> BECAUSE IT ONLY APPLIES TO HOME OCCUPATION.

THEREFORE, THAT PROFESSION COME HOME OCCUPATION IS RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT OF YOUR ACTUAL HOMESTEAD.

THAT IS RIGHT ONLY APPLIES TO THIS SIDE OF THE SHORT-TERM

RENTAL. >> WITH THE LIMITATIONS, WITH A PLOT TO THE SECOND CATEGORY OF THE NON-OCCUPIED PRIMARY --

>> AND NEVER HAVE APPLIED. THESE ARE TO REMIND YOU IN THE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN MIDDLE OF MARCH, THESE WERE CHANGES THAT HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN PROPOSED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE FALL. THEY WERE NOT PICKED UP.E HAD A STAFF TRANSMISSION AMONG OTHER THINGS.

WE DID NOT PICK THEM UP. THERE WERE ACTUALLY SEVERAL OF THESE WERE BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION THAT NIGHT AS AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT. BUT THERE WAS MUCH GOING ON THE EVENING. IT WAS OPTED THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THESE AT A LATER DATE AND WOULD BRING THEM BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.T WAS ALWAYS ACKNOWLEDGED IN DISCUSSIONS THAT FOR WHAT WE CONSIDER A HOMESTAY, THE 25 PERCENT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED SOMEHOW.

AND SO AT THIS STAGE, THAT IS WHY THAT IS IN THERE.

BECAUSE THEORETICALLY, IF YOU ARE RUNNING A PLUMBING SUPPLY, IF YOUR PLUMBER INTO AN OF YOUR HOME AND YOU HAVE A VAN THAT SAID BUT HOPEFULLY IT WOULD BE 80 PERCENT COMMON SUPPLIES AND 80 PERCENT HOUSE IT'S HOW IT'S LOOKED AT.

>> BY DOCTOR THIS WERE NOT CREATING 25 PERCENT UP TO 500

FOR THE SECOND CATEGORY. >> KNOW IT ONLY APPLIES IN THE HOME OCCUPATION. IT IS IN TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS

OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? >> TONIGHT, WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT, FOR THIS ORDINANCE, THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, I GUESS

WE VOTED ON BACK IN -- >> MARCH.

>> MARCH, WHATEVER. >> MARCH 16.

>> AS A COUNSEL, WE VOTED, BETH HAD SOME COMMITMENTS.

>> SHE DID. >> OKAY.

THOSE AMENDMENTS, WE WENT BACK. >> NOT ALL --

>> I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT WE DID HERE.

OKAY SO, SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS WAS, IT WENT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN FROM THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL TASK FORCE IS WHAT IT BASICALLY DID. AND THAT IS WE VOTED ON.

ONIGHT WE ARE VOTING -- >> THERE ZONING AMENDMENTS.

ARTICLE TWO DEFINITIONS, THERE ARE COUPLE DEFINITIONS WERE OFFERING AND DETAILED USE REGULATIONS.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CHANGES OR ITEM NUMBER ONE AND

-- >> ACCORDING THIS ORDINANCE CLEANUP. THE MEAT OF THE ORDINANCE AND WHAT IT MEANS STAYS THE SAME. THIS CLARIFYING A FEW THINGS THAT COULD BE CONFUSING IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY TRACK AS THEY WERE INTENDED TO.

THERE ISN'T ANY MAJOR CHANGE YOU ARE MAKING TONIGHT.

YOU ARE ALLOWING ARE CONSIDERING TO ALLOW SOMETHING THAT WILL MAKE IT CLEAR TO PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET

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UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA IN CHARLOTTESVILLE AND A LOT OF THIS TRACKS IDENTICAL TO THEIRS.

THESE ARE JUST SOME CLEANUP ITEMS THAT WE MEANT TO GET THE ORIGINAL DRAFT THAT DID NOT MAKE IT IN.

BUT NOTHING SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THE MEETING AND THE ORDINANCE IS CHANGING. OR PLANT IMPLEMENTED AS PART O

THIS . >> OKAY.

>> ARE WE GOOD? ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE SECOND READING. WE WILL STILL DO A ROLL CALL, CORRECT?S. CROUCH. LINDSAY?

>> ONE MOMENT. >> MR. DIXON, COME BACK.

ITEM 9B AMENDS CHAPTER 22 ARTICLE 2. WRITE STREET PARKING DECK FEES. -- SEVERAL PROVISIONS RELATED TO VALET PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT,

UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY. >> I WILL INTRODUCE THE

ORDINANCE. >> I MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> ANYONE HAVE ANY OPPOSITION? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL?

>> IF POSSIBLE CITY MANAGER COULD YOU GIVE US AN EXPIRATION WHY THIS NEEDS TO BE 24/7 COMPARED TO THE OTHER HOURS

THROUGHOUT THE CITY? >> YES.

THE INTENT WITH THIS PARKING GARAGE IS, IT'S FUNCTIONS DIFFERENT. WE HAVE AN EXISTING PARKING DECK THAT THE PUBLIC DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS.HOSE ARE LEASED SPACES ONLY WITH CARD ACCESS.

WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO HERE IS DOWNTOWN CONTINUES TO CHANGE. WE HAVE A $60 MILLION ASSET SITTING ON THE GROUND. AND WE WILL NEVER, PARKING DOES NOT PAY FOR ITSELF.XCEPT FOR AIRPORTS AND HOSPITALS.

AND VERY BUSY HOSPITALS AT THAT.

THE ATTEMPT HERE IS TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE CITY MONEY.

THAT IS ONE BUT THE MAIN INTENT IS AS YOU OPERATE THIS 24 HOURS A DAY, WE HAVE A LOT OF ADJACENT POTENTIAL, A MAJOR UNIVERSITY NEXT DOOR. AND IF WE OPERATE AT THE SAME WAY WE OPERATE ON STREET PARKING, STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING CHANGING ON STREET PARKING HOURS BEFORE, BEFORE WE DO 24 HOURS A DAY. WE ARE TRYING TO GET WHEN USED TO THE FACT THAT ON STREET PARKING IS AT A PREMIUM.E WOULD LIKE TO CHARGE MORE FOR IT, THERE HAS BEEN RESISTANCE AMONG DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS BUT THE PARKING DECK ITSELF, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY AROUND IT AND OUR INTENT IS TO TURN THE SPACES OVER AND IF WE ALLOW, IF WE THROW THE GATES UP AT NIGHT AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO IN THERE, THEY WILL SAY I DID NOT PULL A TICKET WHEN I WENT IN.

THEY ARE IN THERE DURING THE REGULAR DAY AND NOT PAY TO GET OUT. WE CANNOT LEAVE THE GATES DOWN THE WHOLE TIME. AND YES, YOU CAN PAY DIFFERENTIAL HOURS BUT WE ALSO ATTEMPTED TO GET PEOPLE USED TO THE IDEA THAT YOU NEED TO PAY FOR PARKING.

LONGER HOURS, AND ON GAME WEEKENDS AND OTHER THINGS IF THERE IS NO PARKING NIGHT PEOPLE LEAVE THE CARS OVERNIGHT IF WE ARE NOT CHARGING THEM AND NOT GET OUT OF THERE DURING THE DAY WHEN WE TRIED TO TURN OVER THE PARKING.

FOR BUSINESSES. SO THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL.

IT'S ONLY UP TO THE COUNCIL IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS DIFFERENTLY. IT IS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO TRY FOR THE FIRST YEAR TO SEE HOW IT GOES AND SEE WHAT THE USAGE IS. I IMAGINE ONE YEAR FROM NOW WE WILL BE BACK TO YOU WITH, WE SHOULD LEASE SOME OF THE PARK AND DO SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY. BUT UNTIL WE TRY, WE DO NOT KNOW. A FEW OF THE FEATURES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ON STREET PARKING AND IN THE PARKING DECK THAT WILL BE ROLLING ON THE COMING MONTHS IS PAY ON THE APP. THERE IS, THAT IN HERE, YOUR GRANTING PERMISSION FOR US TO CHARGE FEES FOR THAT.

FEES ARE ONLY A PASS-THROUGH FEE.

SOME OF THEM CHARGE X AMOUNT PER SWIPE IN TERMS OF THE APP.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE CONVENIENT BUT THE ATTEMPT WITH THIS IS, WE HAVE OTHER ADJACENT USES THAT ARE 24 HOURS A DAY AND OTHER ACTIVITIES TO TRY AND TURN OVER

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IT ALSO EQUALS EXACTLY WHAT AUBURN BANK HAS DONE AND YES THEY ARE PRIVATE BUT ALSO CHARGING 24 HOURS A DAY.

AND WHEN WE DO SWITCH THIS TO LEAST PARKING, PART IF WE CHOOSE TO, WE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE USED TO THE IDEA THAT YOU CANNOT JUST GO STAY IN THERE AND NOT MOVE YOUR CAR EVER. AND THERE IS NO CHARGE TO DO THAT SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE USED TO IT.

>> WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SUSPEND IT AT CERTAIN TIMES?

>> NO, IT IS NOT WRITTEN THAT WAY RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE ON CHRISTMAS BREAK SOMEONE CAN LEAVE THE CAR IN THE THREE WEEKS AND JUST LEAVE IT THERE.HEN IT'S TAKING ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND WE ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, THIS NOT THE SPACE TO LEAVE YOUR CAR FOR THREE WEEKS.

IT WOULD BE $15 A DAY IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE OVER 50 CAMERAS IN THE PARKING DECK AND WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A CLEAN AND SAFE AND AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

SO THEY WILL COME DOWN AND PATRONIZE IT.

THAT WAS THE GOAL. IT IS CERTAINLY $15 A DAY, MAXIMUM IN THEIR CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO PAY THE DEBT SERVICE.

THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT BUT IT WAS THE INTENT TO TRY AND GET SPACES TURNED OVER IN A REASONABLE CLIP.

BUT I DO ACKNOWLEDGE YES, WE CAN LEAVE THE GATES DOWN AND STILL CHARGE LESS HOURS A DAY THAN 24 IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. IT IS AN ATTEMPT TO MANAGE OUR PARKING SYSTEM BETTER. AND WE WOULD LOVE TO ASK YOU TO CHANGE A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT ON STREET PARKING.

BUT LAST TIME THAT DID NOT GO WELL WILL WE PROPOSE THAT I THINK IN 2018. AND SO, WE ARE NOT READY TO PRESENT TO WE CAN GIVE YOU DATA ON HOW THE PARKING DECK IS

WORKING. >> I HAD A QUESTION UNDER THE HOLIDAYS DEFINED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ADD JUNETEENTH AS IT IS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.

>> THAT CAN BE ADDED AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

I WILL BE RECOMMENDED TO HIM THAT BUDGET PROCESS, THAT JUNETEENTH BECOME A CITY HOLIDAY.

AND IT IS UP TO YOU IF YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT NOW OR IF YOU WANT US TO COME BACK LATER.

IT IS CERTAINLY, THIS IS NOT ONE WHERE WE'VE ADVERTISED A PUBLIC HEARING WE CANNOT MAKE AMENDMENTS TODAY.

THAT IS AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> YOU RECOMMEND -- >> YES.

SORRY, I RECOMMEND THAT. >> DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT?

>> SECOND ON FORMAL AMENDMENT TO ADD THAT?

>> YES, EXACTLY. >> I SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND SECOND TO ADD JUNETEENTH TO THE LIST OF HOLIDAYS. WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKET HERE

TONIGHT. >> I WILL REMIND YOU THAT IS FOR ON STREET PARKING IN THE PARKING LOT ONLY NOT THE RIGHT STREET PARKING DECK. THAT IS DRAFTED DIFFERENTLY.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. IS THAT THE ACTUAL DATE OF THE HOLIDAY? THE OBSERVED DATE OF THE

HOLIDAY? >> OBSERVED DAY.

>> WILL BE TECHNICALLY ON STREET PARKING FREE ON THE WEEKEND SO WOULD BE THE OBSERVED DAY.

WHETHER THAT IS FRIDAY, IF IT FALLS ON SATURDAY WILL BE FRIDAY PRIOR AND IT WILL TRACK AS ALL HOLIDAYS DO FOR THE ON-SITE PARKING. BECAUSE WEEKEND PARKING IS FREE ON THE STREET AND THE PARKING LOT, THAT IS HOW IT IS ON THOSE

DAYS. >> IS A NEED TO BE HOLIDAYS DEFINED AS OBSERVED OR IS IT UNDERSTOOD?

>> THAT IS UNDERSTOOD. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> AND THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF JUNETEENTH BEING ADDED TO THE HOLIDAYS DEFINED? WOULD THIS NEED TO BE A ROLL VOTE AS WELL SINCE IT IS AN AMENDMENT?

>> JUST GO AHEAD AND WE WILL CALL IT SO WE ARE CLEAR.

>> IF YOU WOULD LINDSAY, DO A ROLL CALL TO SUPPORT JUNETEENTH BEING ADDED TO THE HOLIDAYS.

>> JUST FOR CLARITY, THAT WILL AMEND SECTION 22 Ã46.

>> CORRECT, THANK YOU. NOW WE ARE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WE ARE LOOKING AT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? EVERYBODY CLEAR?

>> I KNOW WE OMITTED VALET PARKING SERVICES.

AT ANY POINT IN TIME DO YOU SEE AS GOING BACK TO THAT OPTION?

>> NOT ANYTIME SOON IT WAS QUITE A PAINFUL FINANCIAL EXERCISE AMONG OTHER THINGS. I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO WHEN WE DID IT. WE HAD MARKET CHALLENGES AND THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WE HAVE, WE DIDN'T MIND THE FINANCIAL PART BUT IT WAS WAY UNDERUTILIZED.

RIDERSHIP AND USAGE WAS VERY LOW USAGE.

I CAN IMAGINE A TIME THAT WE MAY CHANGE UP HAVING VALET DRUG

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YOU CAN SEE FLOOR TO FLOOR, STAIRWELLS AND EVERYTHING IN IT FEELS VERY DIFFERENT. I THINK WE'D RATHER COME BACK TO YOU, HOPEFULLY WE ARE DELIVERING ENOUGH PUBLIC PARKING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS THAT BUT I THINK I'D BE MORE INTERESTED IN SEEING IF THE PRIVATE SECTOR CHOOSES TO OFFER THAT FROM RESTAURANTS AND LOCATIONS JUST BEING SURE THAT WE ARE SET TO GO THAT THEY CAN DO THAT.

THEY OFFER ON-SITE NOW. SO WE WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO MOVE CARS FROM A PUBLIC AREA INTO OUR PARKING DECKS OR SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR SOMEONE PRIVATELY OPERATING.

WE JUST DO NOT HAVE ANY SUCH PROPOSALS RIGHT NOW.

>> YES? >> I LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO DELETE A PORTION ABOUT THE 24/7, WHICH WOULD BE SECTION 22 Ã51 PARAGRAPH B1 ON PARAGRAPH FOUR OF THE PACKET.

THAT WOULD BE BASIC INTENT WOULD BE TO ADD THE SAME HOURS AS THE OTHER CITY PARKING HOURS.

>> IF YOU DO STRIKE THAT THEN BEFORE YOU GET A SECOND LET ME CLARIFY ONE THING. IT'S ALSO STRIKING EXCEPTIONS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. SO THIS WOULD NOT, AND DAVID, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. I THINK WE WOULD LOSE THE ABILITY TO CHARGE A FLAT RATE FOR FOOTBALL PARKING IF WE

STRIKE THIS ONE. >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS COVERED

ELSEWHERE IN THE DOCUMENT. >> JUST BEFORE I GET A SECOND ON THAT, I WANTED TO CLARIFY AND BE SURE.

DAVID, IS IT ANYWHERE ELSE? >> YES, PREVIOUS PAGE SAYS DAVID'S FOR FOOTBALL GAMES AND OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS MAY BE ESTABLISHED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY MANAGER.

SPECIAL EVENTS -- I THOUGHT THAT WAS COVERED.

PARAGRAPH FOUR OF THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 3.

>> WE ARE COVERED THEN? OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, JUST MAKING SURE.

>> WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE WHICH IS ITEM.

>> 2251. >> B1.

>> B1. >> SECOND.

>> IT IS TO STRIKE IT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> I DO.

WE ARE ASKING TO STRIKE 24/7. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OVER TIME? HOW DOES IT IMPACT $15 A DAY? HOW DOES THAT IMPACT ENFORCEMENT? IT DOESN'T CHANGE ON STREET PARKING HOURS 8-6PM, IT IS JUST WITHIN THE DECK, CORRECT?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO -- THIS IS NOT A CHANGE I WAS AWARE OF PRIOR TO THE MEETING. JUST MINUTES BEFORE.

I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH ALL OF THOSE AND RETHINK IT.

MEANING, RIGHT NOW OBVIOUSLY COULD NOT DO A $15 DAILY MAXIMUM IF WE CHARGE FROM 8 TO 6. THAT IS ONLY $10.

>> SO THEN -- >> THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE CHANGED IF THAT PROVISION WAS MADE AND I WOULD NEED TIME TO LOOK AT THAT WITH STAFF.

>> IT WOULD IMPACT OUR FINES SECTION FOR ANYTHING FOR OVERTIME PARKING. IT WOULD IMPACT THE $15 A DAY.

IT WOULD IMPACT A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS.

>> IT WOULD. >> I MEAN, THIS IS CERTAINLY -- AN ADDITIONAL 250 SPACES THAT ON TOP OF THE, WHAT? 500 THAT AUBURN BANK PRIVATELY HAS BROUGHT ON.

I MEAN, DO WE ANTICIPATE, WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO EVALUATE THIS OVER TIME AND THEN COME BACK AND AMEND AS -- THERE MIGHT BE OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO AMEND.

I JUST THINK THAT AMENDMENT CONTRADICTS A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CREATE SOME, SOME HARDSHIP ON THIS STAFF TO FIGURE OUT.

I THINK IT WOULD UNRAVEL SOME OTHER PIECES OF THIS.

EITHER WE NEED TO TABLE US AND GO BACK TO THAT AND LOOK AT IT IN MORE DEPTH, OR NOT APPROVE THE AMENDMENT UNTIL AFTER WE IDENTIFY OTHER NUANCES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

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>> MR. GRISWOLD AND DIXIE BOTH SUPPORTED THIS WITH MOTIONS I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL WHAT YOU THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT, THIS AMENDMENT. YOU SOMEWHAT EXPLAIN THAT, MR. GRISWOLD IF YOU COULD SAY IT AGAIN I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

>> I JUST WILL SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ON STREET PARKING AND OTHER PARKING DECK. IT'S ALL PUBLIC PARKING, IT IS ALL TO SUPPORT DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES.

AND RESTAURANTS AND WHATNOT, PEOPLE COME IN IN THE EVENINGS.

THAT WAS MY RATIONALE. I JUST DID NOT SEE A REASON TO HAVE IT DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF THE PUBLIC PARKING.

BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN WHITTEN, I'D BE HAPPY TO APPROVE THIS AND EVALUATE OVER TIME AND COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT ONCE WE HAVE -- BECAUSE SHE IS CORRECT IT DOES IMPACT OTHER ASPECT OF THE ORDINANCE, THE DRAFT.

WHAT IS THIS THING? ORDINANCE.

>> IF I MAY, IF AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNSEL I THINK THE GOAL IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS WORKS. I ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME URGENCY THAT RAISE VERY VALID POINTS ABOUT VALIDATED PARKING AND HOW WILL THAT WORK? WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS GIVE THEM OPTIONS. BUT I WASN'T THINKING WITH THE LENS WHERE YOU CAN VALIDATE $15, A WHOLE DAYS WORTH OF PARKING AND HAVE YOU KNOW, WE PEOPLE LOOKING OUR PARKING DECK IN 100 WAYS THAT THEY LIKE TO UTILIZE IT.

WHICH IS A GOOD THING BUT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, THE INITIAL GOAL WAS TO DELIVER MORE PUBLIC PARKING SO PEOPLE COULD ALWAYS KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A SPOT IN DOWNTOWN ARE BURNED. FOOTBALL GAMES ASIDE BECAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS WORKS AND WE WANT IT TO BE UTILIZED.

I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THIS TO HAVE 25 SPACES A DAY UTILIZED AND THE REST EMPTY. THAT IS NOT OUR GOAL.

BUT WITHOUT DATA TO THE POINT THAT BOTH OF YOU HAVE MADE, THAT IS THE GOAL. WITHOUT DATA I CANNOT MAKE BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS STAGE.

WE ARE GOING TO SEE WHAT WORKS AND GO FROM THERE.

THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS WE HAVE TO REMEMBER OUR GREAT PARTNERS AT THE STUDENT UNION HAVE 15 SPACES IN THERE TO NOT CONFUSE THE PUBLIC, WE SEE A SPACE MARKED FOR THE BACK TO STUDENT UNION THEY ALL KNOWS. PLEASE DO NOT PARK IN THEM, THOSE ARE THEIR SPACES. THEY WILL HAVE SWIPE CARDS THAT ALLOW THEM IN AND OUT OF THE DECK.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT FUNCTION. A FEW OTHER KEY FEATURES TO UNDERSTAND IS, THIS WILL NOT LET IN, WE HAVE ABOUT 10 CAR FLUCTUATIONS. IT WILL NOT LET EXTRA PEOPLE IN THE DECK. IF IT GETS FULL DO NOT GO IN THERE AND DRIVE AROUND AND LOOK FOR A SPACE.

THE GATE WILL NOT LET YOU IN ANYMORE.

A LOT OF THE SYSTEMS WE STILL HAVE TO TEST.

AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING MAY CALL OUR COMMUNICATIONS FOLKS AND SAY THEY'VE LOST THEIR TICKET AND CANNOT GET OUT OF THE PARKING DECK. UNDERSTAND THAT BUT IN THE ATLANTA AIRPORT, YOU ALSO HAVE TO PAY FOR A WHOLE DAY AND THEN SOME IF YOU LOSE YOUR TICKET.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO HOLD SOME PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.

AND EVERYONE BEHIND THEM WE HAVE ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT, THEY WILL BE ANGRY WHEN THAT HAPPENS AND MAY WE WILL WORK THROUGH THAT. WE'LL ALSO HAVE, THE GOAL IS, THERE WILL BE TIMES YOU HAVE TO -- THE GOAL TONIGHT FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE WAS TO GET SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS WHEN YOU ARE SO READY SO WE CAN GET IT OPEN.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO WHY IT IS NOT OPEN, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. THE BACK-TO-SCHOOL UNION IS FACILITATING MOVING IN. WE WANT TO GET THEM AND WE HAVE ONE MINOR ELEVATOR ISSUE THAT IS NOT DANGEROUS, WE JUST NEED A SWIPE CARD. WE ARE WAITING FOR A SMALL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO COME AND THAT WILL NOT ALLOW ACCESS TO A BASEMENT LEVEL. THAT IS A CITY OF AUBURN KIND OF SECURED AREA. THAT IS ALL WE ARE WAITING ON, THOSE TWO THINGS AND WE WILL BE READY TO GET IT OPEN.

BUT WE CANNOT OPEN IT IF YOU GUYS DO NOT ALLOW IT TO BE CHARGED. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.

>> I WILL TAKE BACK MY SECOND AFTER LISTENING TO THE CITY MANAGER. I WILL BE HAPPY TO WITHDRAW THE

AMENDMENT. >> WE CAN REVISIT AS EARLY AS THE END OF THE FALL SEMESTER. I WILL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE ARE SEEING AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OR IF WE SEE PROBLEMS IN THE MIDDLE FALL SEMESTER WE WILL ADDRESS

THAT. >> SECURITY CAMERAS --

>> GOT THE POINT. THAT'S WHY I AM TELLING, I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SECURITY CAMERAS IN THERE. THE GOAL IS THAT THEY ARE IN THE ELEVATORS, STAIRWELLS, UP AND DOWN ANY AREA OF THE PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE IN THEIR 24 HOURS A DAY. AND IT IS ALSO VERY WELL LIT AND BRIGHT INSIDE OF THERE. THE STAIRWELLS ARE NOT -- HOURS ARE COMPLETELY OPEN. PEOPLE IN THE PARKING GARAGE CAN SEE YOU WALKING UP THE STAIRS.

WE DO THAT FOR COMFORT AND SAFETY PURPOSES.

BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THERE

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>> IN 1987 -- [INAUDIBLE] >> THEY GO! I NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT ONE THING THAT SOME OF THE BEST VIEWS IN AUBURN BUT ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE THOU SHALL NOT TAILGATE IN THE PARKING DECK WHICH MEANS YOU KNOW, GRILLS OF THE PARKING DECK AND SO ON.

AND ON CITY PROPERTY INCLUDING THE PARKING DECK, THOU SHALL NOT DRINK BEER, TECHNICALLY. O I AM JUST REITERATING THAT THIS IS NOT A SPACE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LEASING OUT AND WE WILL BE ASKING PEOPLE TO GO GET THEIR TAILGATE ON ELSEWHERE.

AND PATRONIZE THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES.

AND PURCHASE FROM THEM. >> OKAY.

THE AMENDMENT IS WE REMOVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ORDINANCE AS A STAMP TO REQUEST THE ORDINANCE AS AMENDED WITH MR. DIXON ZIMMERMAN FOR JUNETEENTH.

>> ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE --

>> ANOTHER SOME COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOLIDAY.

I KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.

IT IS ONLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE, CORRECT?

>> YES, WE WILL BE DEALING, AND WHAT I MEAN IS IT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION. I WILL PROPOSE IT TO YOU WILL SEE IT IN THE BUDGET IN AUGUST. I WILL BE PROPOSING MAJOR AMENDMENT THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY AMEND, I ANY BUDGET THAT MUCH BUT FOR THIS SPECIFIC THING, WE WILL.

I WILL BRING THAT AS A KEY DECISION FOR YOU TO AMEND.

THAT COST AND THAT 140 OR $150,000 RANGE.

>> THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOVE TO APPROVE

THIS? >> MOVE.

>> IS ALREADY BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

YOU JUST NEED TO -- >> OKAY SO ROLL CALL.

RESOLUTIONS THIS EVENING. THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS OF

[12. CITIZENS’ OPEN FORUM.]

BUSINESS WE HAVE FOR YOU. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN UP CITIZENS, OPEN FORUM. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY IS A CITIZEN TO ADDRESS US WITH ANYTHING ON YOUR MIND.

WE ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. A COUPLE OF COMMENTS I LIKE TO MAKE REAL QUICK. IT IS IMPORTANT TO ADJUST THE CITY COUNCIL AND NOT AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL. OR THE CITY STAFF.

ANY COMMENTS YOU DIRECT TO THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF ASKING THE CITY MANAGER ANSWER QUESTIONS OR TO GET FURTHER INFORMATION FOR YOU. WE PLEASE ASK THAT YOU BE

RESPECTFUL. YES SIR?>> THANK YOU.

I AM MICHAEL -- 913 CITY CIRCLE IN AUBURN.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 43 YEARS.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN MARRIED ON THE 11TH FOR 52 YEARS.

>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

I WANT TO SPEAK FOR A FEW MINUTES TONIGHT ABOUT COVID-19 VACCINATIONS. THE KEY QUESTION, WHAT WILL MOTIVATE THE UNVACCINATED TO GET VACCINATED? AND FULFILL THEIR COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND ALL OF US. THE DATA IS OVERWHELMINGLY CLEAR. THAT WE MUST ACT NOW! TO REDUCE COVID-19 FROM SPREADING.

TODAY, IT WAS REPORTED IN THE USA TODAY, THAT 99.2 PERCENT OF COVID DEATHS INVOLVED UNVACCINATED PEOPLE.

99.2 PERCENT ALSO REPORTED THAT 24 PERCENT OF THE NEW CASES, ARE CHILDREN. ONE THIRD OF ALABAMA COUNTIES ARE AT RISK FOR COVID-19. PERHAPS AN LIMITATION OF THE PLAN THAT I'VE SHARED WITH YOU LAST WEEK, IS EVEN MORE PRESSING, AND IN LIGHT OF SOME ADDITIONAL REPORTING IN THE NEWS. ON JULY 3, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION OF ALABAMA HAVE LAUNCHED THE WE CAN DO THIS CAMPAIGN TO VACCINATE MORE ALABAMA RESIDENTS. THEY REPORTED THAT 94 PERCENT OF RESIDENTS HOSPITALIZED FOR COVID-19 WERE NOT FULLY VACCINATED. AND THAT THE DELTA VARIANT IS EVEN MORE INFECTIOUS AND SPREADING IN VACCINATION STATES THAT ARE LOW. AN ARTICLE IN THE THE 4TH OF JULY NEWS, EDITORIAL ENCOURAGES, COLLEGE LEADERS TO

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IT IS INTERESTING AS OF THIS DATE THERE ARE 400 COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES THAT REQUIRE STUDENTS TO BE FULLY VACCINATED. BEFORE THEY CAN BEGIN TO TAKE CLASSES ON-SITE IN THE FALL. NOW OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT EMPOWERED TO DICTATE TO THE PRESIDENT OF AUBURN UNIVERSITY.

>> WRAP THIS UP IF YOU WOULD. >> 10 SECONDS.

35,000 STUDENTS INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER IN ALL OF AUBURN.

SO, IT IS URGENT TO ACT NOW. MY MOTHER USED TO SAY TO ME, AFTER I APOLOGIZED FOR BEING LATE TO DINNER.

MICHAEL, DON'T BE SORRY, DON'T BE LATE.

THERE IS NO NEED FOR THIS COUNSEL TO BE SORRY FOR BEING LATE TO ACT. TO TAKE SIGNIFICANT ACTION IF YOU ARE NOW PROACTIVE, TO IMPLEMENT SOME PLANS TO REDUCE THE SPREADING OF COVID. I THANK YOU FOR THE FEW EXTRA MINUTES. I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR

IMPORTANT WORK IN OUR BURN. >> THANK YOU.

>> WHO WOULD BE NEXT? >> MY NAME IS MIKE FRIEDMAN.

1113 EAGLE CIRCLE. I AM RETIRED PROFESSOR AT THE CHEMISTRY DEPARTMENT. CHEMISTRY AND BIOCHEMISTRY, MY BACKGROUND IS IN PROTEIN CHEMISTRY.

AND I HAVE A GOOD WORK OF GENETICS.

I AM JUST HERE TO SUPPORT MIKE'S STATEMENTS AND JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THE SAFETY OF THIS VACCINE AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS VACCINE. IT IS JUST SOMETHING WAY BEYOND ANYTHING ANYBODY EVER THOUGHT OF.

PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT IT, PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT IT IS DANGER. THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET ABOUT POORNESS OF THE VACCINE OR WHAT HAVE YOU. THE VACCINE HAS BEEN TESTED NOW AND DEALT WITH FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.

IT WAS ACTUALLY STARTED IN PENNSYLVANIA WHERE THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENT ALSO WENT. BUT NOT TOO MUCH IN THE WAY OF SCIENCE. THEY BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 10 YEARS AND ALL THEY BEEN WAITING FOR IS A PANDEMIC.

THEY GOT THERE PANDEMIC AND THE THING IS IT'S WORKED BEAUTIFULLY. IT TOOK THEM AFTER THEY GOT THE SEQUENCE FROM THE CHINESE, IT TOOK ABOUT THREE MONTHS TO MAKE THE VACCINE. IT TOOK ABOUT ANOTHER FIVE OR SIX MONTHS TO TEST IT OUT AMONG THE PEOPLE.

THAT IS WITHIN THE YEAR. VACCINES NORMALLY TOOK FOUR, FIVE OR SIX YEARS TO BE NAMED, THIS WENT VERY FAST ALL VACCINES IN THE FUTURE WILL BE MADE THIS WAY.

A LOT THINGS WILL BE MADE THIS WAY.

WE HAVE TO SIMPLY LET THE PEOPLE KNOW FROM WHICHEVER WAY YOU CAN, THAT THIS IS SAFE. AND NECESSARY.

EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TODAY THE PROTOCOL OF BUSINESS OF AUBURN MAY GO DOWN THE DRAIN IF YOU HAVE IN THE FALL, A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE STILL CARRYING THE VACCINE. RIGHT NOW, MAYBE 30 OR 32 PERCENT IN ALABAMA. BY THE FALL, YOU HAVE FOOTBALL STADIUMS, THEATER, CLASSROOMS, FILLED WITH PEOPLE AND IF THEY CARRY THE VIRUS, YOU MAY HAVE TO SHUT DOWN, YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT NO ONE WANTS TO DO THAT.

AND THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH IS TRYING TO GET THE VACCINE INTO ARMS AND GET THE VIRUS DOWN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YES SIR, THANK YOU.

WHO WILL BE NEXT? >> THANK YOU COUNSEL.

I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF AND ALSO, CLEAR.

MY NAME IS JOSHUA LEWIS, -- THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER GREG LIZZA JUST BECAUSE A LOT OF MONEY DOESN'T MINIMIZE THE FACT HE GOT TO BE VERY STUDIOUS AND FOCUS.

HOW YOU SPEND THOSE RESOURCES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE.

I'M AN EXECUTIVE MEMBER OF THE NAACP, LEE COUNTY AND FOUNDING PRIME MINISTER OF THE -- ON ONE OF MANY WHO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE IN THIS CASE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN AUBURN. -- ALLOCATION OF FUNDING AND AN EQUITABLE MATTER WITH REGARDS TO THE BLACK COMMITTEE IN AUBURN. ADVANCING RACIAL EQUITY AND SUPPORT FOR UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE ORDER SAYS TOO MANY AMERICAN DREAM REMAINS OUT OF REACH ENTRENCHED DISPARITIES IN

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THAT'S PUTTING IT NICELY. ALONG WITH EXECUTIVE ORDERS E THEMSELVES IN THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN TO PROVIDE MORE THAN 250 BILLION DOLLARS NATIONALLY TELL THE STATE, COUNTIES AND CITIES DEAL WITH EXPENSES RELATED TO THE CARNIVORES PANDEMIC.HE CITY OF AUBURN IS EXPECTED TO RECEDE UPWARDS ABOUT 16.1 MILLION AS PART OF THE PLAN. AS A MEMBER OF THE BLACK COMMITTEE WE AS A BLACK COLLECTIVE DESIRE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PLANNING AND A PORTION OF SAID FUNDING.

THE PROCESS OF PROPOSAL DRAFTING WHICH I'M AWARE OF.

IN AN ARTICLE, AS SOON AS WE DO, GIVE GUIDANCE WE WILL MAKE A PLAN INTERNALLY TO PROPOSE THE PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN TRIED TO PROCEED WITH SPENDING THE MONEY.

SHE GOES ON TO SAY THE GOOD NEWS IN THE GUIDANCE IT SAYS I THINK WE HAVE 20 -- UNTIL 2024 TO SPEND THE MONEY.

IT'S GOOD TO MAKE A PLAN AND SPEND IT.

NOT TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT, WE HAVE A LOT TO SAY AND DO.

ALMOST THERE. I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THE CITY MANAGER WAS ELUDING TO. BUT I WOULD HATE FOR A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY AND GREATLY IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC TO BE EXCLUDED IN THE PROCESS.

NO ONE KNOWS WHAT -- THE PEOPLE NEED BETTER THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES. IN A VERY REAL WAY WE ARE ORGANIZING AND STRATEGIZING AND WILL SOON RETURN WITH PROPOSALS THAT WE DEEM TO BE EQUITABLE, REASONABLE ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE DISPROPORTIONATE EFFECT THAT THE PANDEMIC HAS HAD ON THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.LEASE ALLOW ME TIME ENOUGH TO TALK ABOUT THE EDUCATION DISPARITIES. THEY HAVE BEEN COMPOUNDED IN THE PANDEMIC. I'LL HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE HEALTH DISPARITIES OR ECONOMIC WAGE GAPS.

WE LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL COUNSEL, THEN THE SO-CALLED GOOD NEWS PLAN THAT WAS SPOKEN OF IN THE ARTICLE.

AND MAYBE AS WE DEVISE A PLAN TOGETHER COUNSEL, AUBURN CAN TAKE A LOOK INTO RESPECTIVELY AND SEE IF THERE ARE WAYS IN THE CITY THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED AS WE PUSH TOWARD ECONOMIC EQUITY AND RELIEF. AND FINALLY TO COUNSEL --

>> WRAP IT UP. >> THANK YOU.

WE HOPE YOU'D BE OPEN TO MEET WITH US, MYSELF AND COLLEAGUES AS WE'D REPRESENT A GREAT DEAL OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY, AS A COLLECTIVE AND WE CAN DISCUSS THE PROPOSALS AND OBTAIN THEM AS WE SUBMIT THEM CONTAINING THE FUNDING.

THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> WHO WILL BE NEXT? YES MA'AM.

>>.

MY NAME IS.

UNIVERSITY DRIVE, IN AUBURN, ALABAMA.

-- I WILL BACK UP ON EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS.

THE EXECUTIVE ORDER OUTLINES THAT THERE ARE 12 CATEGORIES OF FUNDS DISBURSEMENT. I LIKE TO GO THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY WITH YOU. THEY SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED AMONGST FOOD AND SECURITY, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, CHILD CARE AND YOUTH SERVICES, RENTAL AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE, MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE, ECONOMIC DEVELOP AND AND PUBLIC HEALTH TRANSPORTATION, CLEANING SUPPLIES AND HEALTHCARE SERVICES. AS MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED WE ARE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A VERY STRATEGIC PROPOSALS THAT FALL IN THESE CATEGORIES TO ENSURE THAT THE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED TOWARD SERVING THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN ALABAMA.

MY SECOND COMMENT IS ON BEHALF OF MY HUSBAND WHO PLAYS BASKETBALL. HE IS INTERESTED IN TRYING TO DETERMINE WHY -- HAS NOT BEEN OPENED NOW THAT COVID HAS SOMEWHAT SUBSIDED. HE WANTED TO KNOW, HE JUST WANTS TO KNOW WHAT IS PREVENTING IT FROM BEING AVAILABLE FOR PLAY BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

AND THE INTERMEDIARY BETWEEN FACILITIES CURRENTLY THEY GO ALL THE WAY TO FRANK BROWN WHICH IS FAR FROM OUR HOME.

SO HIM HAVING TO GO BACK AND FORTH.

I'M NOT SURE THERE ARE THE MEMBERS, I THINK THAT THEY CAME AS A GROUP AS WELL BUT I UNDERSTAND HIS BEHALF WITH MY KIDS IN THE CAR. HE JUST WANTED TO GET BETTER INSIGHT FROM YOU ALL AND WHAT IS PREVENTING THE FACILITY FOR BEING OPEN. WE UNDERSTAND IT HAS SOMETHING DO WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IN WHICH GOES INTO MY FIELD

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APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >> BEFORE YOU LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION. WE WILL GET YOU AN ANSWER ON

THAT. >> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

CAN WE -- IS THE TIME THAT WE CAN SAY SOMETHING?

>> YEAH, HOLD ON. >> WE HAVE MS. DAVIS IN HERE.

SO THEY CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE SITUATION?

>> OUR STAFF DOES NOT RESPOND TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.

THE COUNCIL HAVE TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO RESPOND.HIS IS A TIME FOR PEOPLE TO BRING INFORMATION FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL, THAT IS IT.ND IT IS UP TO COUNSEL FROM THERE WE ARE NOT ALWAYS PREPARED TO RESPOND. AND I DON'T MEAN ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING.

STAFF IS HERE AS A RESOURCE BUT I HAVE TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER WHO INSTRUCTS STAFF TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

>> I GUESS THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'M DOING.

[LAUGHTER] I DID ASK YOU, I SAID, SINCE WE HAVE MS. -- MR. DAVIS HERE CAN HE ANSWER THE QUESTION?

THAT HIS WIFE ASKED. >> NO PROBLEM.

ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS VERY MUCH A COMMUNITY CENTER AND WE HAVE OTHER CLUBS AND ACTIVITIES GOING ON. TO THE VERY QUESTIONS OF COVID THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT TONIGHT, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS ABOUT FULL USE OF THE FACILITY IN AREAS WHERE CHILDREN, A LOT OF WHICH ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO VACCINATED, OR SPENDING TIME. WOULD YOU PLEASE RESPOND?

>> IS A HUGE CONCERN OF OURS. AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB USED THE GYM.HEY USE IT ALL DAY.

7:00 A.M. UNTIL LATE IN THE AFTERNOON.

WE DO NOT WANT TO MIX ANY OUTSIDE ACTIVITIES WHEN WE HAVE THAT MANY CHILDREN IN THE FACILITY.

AS YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE CHILDREN HAVE NOT BEEN VACCINATED. AND WE HAVE 100 KIDS PROBABLY OVER THERE IN THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ALONE.

WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TURNAROUND TIME BETWEEN 6:00 A.M. AND THE BOULDER CLUB ARRIVING AT SEVEN TO GET READY AND SANITIZED AND FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE CHILDREN WILL BE SAFE BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE ALL DAY LONG.

THAT IS A CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CHILDREN. INCLUDING A LOT OF INFANTS.

UNTIL WE CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE GETTING TO THE PHASE OF COVID WE ENCOURAGE NOT MIXING THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES -- I'VE EXPRESSED THAT TRAVOLTA REACHED OUT TO ME.

THIS NOT A RECREATION TYPE CENTER.

IT IS A COMMUNITY SERVICE FACILITY THAT HOUSES QUITE A FEW TENANTS. MAINLY CHILDREN, MAINLY SENIORS. LET US TRY TO GET TO THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND SEE HOW THESE THINGS SHAKE OUT.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THIS IN THE FALL.

BUT FOR NOW, I VERY STRONGLY URGE YOU NOT TO MIX THE USES.

>> IN THE FALL, WHEN THE CHILDREN ARE BACK IN SCHOOL, MORNING PLAY MAY BE A VERY GOOD POSSIBILITY.

>> A VERY GOOD POSSIBILITY BECAUSE THEY WILL BE A GAP.

>> AND LATER IN THE EVENING TOO BEYOND RECREATION PROGRAMS.

ONCE THE CHILDREN CLEAR. >> YES.

>> DOES THAT HELP? >> IT HELPS A LOT.

THE REASON WHY ASKED YOU TO ASK HIM TO EXPRESS THAT IS BECAUSE MAYBE THAT IS WHAT YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ANSWER. DON'T THINK I HAD A PROBLEM BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE YOUNG LADY TO ASK THE QUESTION UNDERSTAND WHY THE GYM IS NOT OPEN AT THIS TIME.

AND I THINK THAT THE ACTIVITY IS DIFFERENT AT FRANK BROWN THEN IS THAT -- UNDERSTAND THE TENANT IN ORDER TO RELAY THAT TO HER HUSBAND OR WHOEVER WANTED HER TO ASK THE QUESTION, THERE IS DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT GOES ON THERE.

AND I HATE THAT YOU HAVE TO DRIVE A LONG WAYS TO FRANK BROWN BUT YOU SAY YOU HAVE THREE KIDS IN THE CAR SO YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT IS PRETTY UNDERSTANDABLE THAT YOU WOULD NOT WANT YOUR CHILD TO BE MIXED IN WITH PEOPLE, MAYBE IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING WHERE EVERYONE HAS NOT BEEN VACCINATED. AND I THINK I WOULD FEEL THE SAME WITH MY BOYS WERE STILL YOUNG TO FEEL THE SAME WAY.

I DON'T WANT NOBODY TO TAKE IT PERSONAL THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD HE

WAS ABLE TO EXPLAIN. >>.

[INAUDIBLE] >> IF SHE HAS FURTHER QUESTIONS

WHERE SHOULD SHE DIRECT THEM? >> CALL COMMUNITY SERVICES THAT THE EASIEST THING. BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE TO CALL JUST CALL 501 7260 THUS THE CITY HALL MAIN NUMBER AND WE WILL GET YOU AT ANY TIME TO THE CORRECT DEPARTMENT.

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THEY'LL ANSWER THE PHONE AND GET YOU THE RIGHT PERSON TO ANSWER QUESTION. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR AND

WE WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOU. >> AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

>> AND I GUESS ANOTHER THING YOU MIGHT WANT TO ELABORATE A LITTLE ON IS THE FACT THAT THERE WILL BE A GYM PHASE NUMBER TWO. IT WILL BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

WHEN THEY PUT PHASE 2, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN IN A GYM.

IT WILL BE A SEPARATE FACILITY. WE MORE OR LESS LIKE FRANK BROWN IS NOW. YOU WON'T HAVE THESE TENANTS, CHILDREN AND THOSE TYPE OF YOU KNOW PEOPLE AROUND THE

CHILDREN. >> AND IT WILL HAVE AIR

CONDITIONING. >> AND AIR CONDITIONING!

[LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU.

GOOD? OKAY.

[INAUDIBLE] >> MY NAME IS.

COUNCIL. ELEMENT 311 EAST AVENUE IN OPA LOCKA. I'M HERE TODAY AND I RISE TO THE OCCASION ABOUT ORDER 13985.

SAID THIS MEANS A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET AN INVITE FROM ALL OF THE PEOPLE, BUSINESS PEOPLE AND ALL THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY SAY THAT THEY WANT TO SEE THIS COMMUNITY FOR ALL OF US. WE CAN HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TODAY, TOMORROW, AND THE FUTURE.

THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY OF AUBURN, LEE COUNTY, OPA LOCKA. BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT I FOUND OUT. BUT I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY DEAL WITH LEE COUNTY, BUT OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES AND I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE BECAUSE WE COMMUNICATE BECAUSE MY EXPERTISE IS BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

AND I FOUND OUT THAT WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW GIVING PEOPLE HOPE, WE NEED HOPE. WE HAVE ALL OF THIS SHOOTING DRUGS IN ALL OF THIS, AND I TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THAT.

WE CAN SOLVE SOME PROBLEMS.E CAN SOLVE SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS. I TOLD THE COMMUNITY TODAY, IF WE CLEAN UP OUR COMMUNITY, MAKE OUR COMMUNITY LOOK GOOD, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE COMMUNITY WE WILL HAVE A BETTER COMMUNITY.

THEY HAD PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION.

AND THAT -- WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO. [INAUDIBLE] THEY HAVE A PROGRAM ALREADY IN PLACE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE WHAT I FOUND OUT WHEN WE GET TO -- PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. AND I TALKED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT OF EDUCATION. THEY SAID WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BE IN THE CLASSROOM. BUT WITH THE FUNDING COMING IN NOW, WE CAN SOLVE SOME OF THEM PROBLEMS. AND WHAT LITTLE YOU KNOW BECAUSE THERE IS A MISCOMMUNICATION. I HAVE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE IN THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT. IN MY UNDERSTANDING ALL THE CITIES AND COUNTIES KNOW WHERE THE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT.

I KNOW THAT BECAUSE -- THEY WEREN'T DOING WHAT THEY WERE CALLED TO DO. WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

IF YOU ALL WOULD BE SMART WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER.

WITH MY THINKING YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE PEOPLE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

THEY KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I'M ON HERE WORKING SOMETIMES WITH THEM.

AND I ASK TO LISTEN TO US. AND WORK TOGETHER AND I GUARANTEE YOU WHEN WE COME BACK, EACH ONE OF YOU WILL BE PROUD OF THE CITY THAT WE LIVE IN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

WHO WOULD BE NEXT? >> MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL ACT

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I WAS PREPARED TO MAKE COMMENTS BUT YOU DO NOT NEED TO REPEAT YOURSELF. WOULD SAY THERE IS A DOMINO EFFECT, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NO LONGER ABLE --

>>? GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR

THE RECORD? >> I'M SORRY JOHN -- 561 SHELTON LANE IN AUBURN. A LOT OF PEOPLE PLAY, HAVE BEEN DISPLACED BECAUSE THERE IS A LIMIT AND COVID RESTRICTIONS ETC. THERE IS A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT JUST DO NOT GET IN THE EXERCISE. CERTAINLY NOT AT ALL DISMISSING THE EXPLANATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS. I THINK THERE ARE SOME HEALTH BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I WOULD SAY TOO, A BUNCH OF US PICK UP ROOMS AND SWEEP UP AFTER OURSELVES.

IF THERE'S EVERETT A POINT WHERE YOU NEED BUT WILL HELP WITH CLEANUP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AS EARLY AS YOU CAN'T OPEN IT.

I WANT TO THANK THE TIME TO COMPLEMENT ALL OF THE PEOPLE WORKING. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE?

>> MY NAME IS.

AUBURN ALABAMA. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME COMING TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I AM JUST LISTENING TO EVERYTHING AND MY QUESTION IS, I'M NOT REALLY UP REPRESENTING ANYBODY BUT I HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT VACCINATIONS AND ALL OF THIS TYPE OF STUFF. GOING ON IN THE AUBURN COMMUNITY ITSELF AND ALSO, YOU HAVE -- COME UP IN A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT STUFF HAPPENING ON THE NORTHWEST AUBURN SIDE OF TOWN. AND WONDERING, THE BIGGEST THING HAVE CONCERN ABOUT THE WAR DEVELOPMENT KEPT COMING UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

-- THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPER GOING ON IN THE SIDE OF TOWN.

AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH COLLEGE STUDENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I GREW UP AROUND IT.

GROWING UP IN THIS COMMUNITY WAS A BENEFIT TO ME.

BEING ABLE TO GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE FROM MY COMMUNITY.

MY THING IS, AS MUCH AS THAT COMMUNITY ITSELF ON THE OTHER SIDE IS BEING INTEGRATED INTO OUR COMMUNITY, I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY BEING INTEGRATED INTO THEIR COMMUNITY. WE CONNECT TO BENEFIT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AROUND HERE. NOT NECESSARILY EVERYONE COMING TO OUR COMMUNITY BUT YOU KNOW, AS A WHOLE, IF WE ARE THE AUBURN COMMUNITY YOU CANNOT LEAVE THAT SIDE OF TOWN OUT.

I'M NOT ASKING ANYONE TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON ANYTHING BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE, EXCUSE ME I'M NOT GETTING CHOKED UP I

JUST NEED SOME WATER! >> YOU ARE GOOD.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, US BEING ABLE TO, FRANK BROWN IS A PLACE I USED TO BE ABLE TO PLAY BASKETBALL AT MY AGE.

NOW IT IS OPEN BUT THEN, PEOPLE FROM MY SIDE OF TOWN DON'T GO THERE ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT IS, WE BEEN PUSHED OUT OF THERE, BUT IS NOT LIKE THE SAME VIBE. WE USED TO BE ABLE GO OUTSIDE AND SHOOT BALL AT NIGHT AND HAVE FUN.

BUT THE COLLEGE COMMUNITY IS GETTING BIGGER THAN WE ARE.

SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO STAY ALIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE ARE MORE WORKING CLASS THAN SITTING AT THE TOP OF THE TOTEM POLE. WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A FEW THINGS THAT ACTUALLY TO BE BROUGHT IN THE COMMUNITY FROM THE UNIVERSITY SIDE AS WELL. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING LOOKING FOR IDEAS TO HELP US. ON KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HOW YOU ALL DO BUDGETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT BUT YOU KNOW, INSIDE THAT BUDGET THINK ABOUT THE MAN INSIDE OF THAT -- PARKING PLACE Y'ALL WANTED. MIGHT WANT A JOB IN THERE.

OR LIKE Y'ALL SAID YOU HAVE A $34,000 LAWNMOWER TALKING ABOUT? HOW ABOUT TAKE 10 PEOPLE FROM MY SIDE OF THE TOWN AND LET THEM CUT IT.

$34,000 WILL NOT EVEN COST THAT.

JUST AN IDEA. THROW EVERYONE IN THE MIX.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. COME BACK ANY TIME!

>> MY NAME IS JONATHAN -- 102 CAROLINA COURT IN AUBURN.

JUST WANT TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL AND MR. MAYOR FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I THINK MOST OF US ALL AT THE SAME THING. WE WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CITY. WE JUST WANT TO LIVE OUR LIVES

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THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO STRONGLY OPPOSE STRS AND I AGREE. ON THING AND WILL PURCHASE A HOME IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE WITH EXPECTATION OF HAVING NEW PEOPLE WERE CUSTOMERS NEXT DOOR.

AGAIN IT'S A FAIR EXPECTATION. WHEN YOU BUY HOUSE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. WHAT I THINK WE CAN AGREE ON, IS HAVING COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

OF COURSE, THERE IS LONG-STANDING PRECEDENTS THAT ALLOW YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO DIVIDE A CITY INTO COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE WOULD AGREE TO OPERATING A HOME GYM, A PUBLIC GYM, RESTAURANT OR MARKETPLACE OR ANY OTHER BUSINESS OUT OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

SO, COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL ZONES, I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN AGREE ON. I THINK WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING HERE, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE, WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE BETWEEN WHAT IS COMMERCIAL, AND WHAT IS RESIDENTIAL? I THINK TO HAVE AN OCCASIONAL YARD SALE, NOT BE IN THE FLEAMARKET BUSINESS.

MY KIDS CAN HAVE A LEMONADE STAND AND NOT BE IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS. I CAN HOST A SMALL GROUP AT MY CHURCH AND NOT BE -- I CAN HOST A SMALL GROUPS AT MY HOUSE AND NOT BE A CHURCH. SO, WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE IS REALLY THE QUESTION. FOR ME, THERE IS ONE LEGAL PRECEDENT, SPECIFIC TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

THEY REALLY SET A PRECEDENT I THINK WORTHY OF YOUR CONSIDERATION. TO LOWER RENTAL OF YOUR HOME AT THE 14 EASIER WITHOUT TAXATION IT IS NOT CONSIDERED BUSINESS, IT IS CALLED THE ADJUSTER ROLE. BUT IT IS OF SUCH LIMITED FREQUENCY THAT IT IS INCONSEQUENTIAL AND IT IS PRACTICAL TO MANAGE. I THINK ANY AUBURN RESIDENT IN ANY ZONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RENT THEIR HOME UP TO 14 DAYS PER YEAR. WHICH IS PRIMARILY JUST FOOTBALL AND FOOTBALL AND GRADUATION.

SO, WHAT I WOULD REQUEST TO THE COUNCIL, IS TO CONSIDER ALLOWING EVERYONE IN ALL ZONES TO RENT THE HOUSE UP TO 14 DAYS A YEAR. WHY IT IS IMPORTANT --

>> PLEASE WRAP IT UP. >> DOING SO IS GOOD FOR THE HOMEOWNERS. CAUSES NO HARM TO THE NEIGHBORS OR PROPERTY VALUES. MOST IMPORTANT, IT IS FAIR TO EVERYONE IN ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

LASTLY, PLEASE CONSIDER A GRANDFATHER CLAUSE TO THE EXISTING ORDINANCE. NOT DOING SO SIMPLY PULL THE FINANCIAL RUG OUT FROM UNDER A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF.

THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> HI, MY NAME IS.

BROOK LANE IN AUBURN. I WILL TRY TO GET OUT OF HERE BECAUSE MY KIDS I'M SORRY I HAD TO BRING THEM.

I WAS ASKED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

I MUST ADMIT I'M KIND OF IGNORANT AS FAR AS ALL OF IT.

THE FIRST TIME I REALLY HEARD ABOUT IT WAS WE GOT A LETTER IN THE MAIL THAT SAID CEASE AND DESIST.

SO, ANYWAY, MY MOTHER LIVED NEXT DOOR TO ME.

WE AIRBNB HER HOUSE AND SHE LIVES WITH US WHEN THEY DO THAT. IT ALLOWS HER TO KEEP HER HOME BECAUSE SHE IS RETIRED, IT ALLOWS HER TO KEEP IT FIXED UP AND IT ALLOWS HER TO GO ON VACATION WHEN SHE WANTS TO, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WE ALSO SPLIT THE PROFIT.

WHATEVER THE PROFIT IS, WE GET TO SAVE IT FOR OUR CHILDREN FOR COLLEGE. ANYWAY, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT IT. JUST, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT. AND I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW LIKE SOMEONE CAN TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO IN HER OWN HOME.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE ARE NOT HURTING ANYBODY.

WE HAVE ONLY HAD GREAT PEOPLE COME, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF FAMILIES THAT COME AND ENJOY OUAUBURN AND EVERYTHING HAS TO BRING. WE VET PEOPLE THOROUGHLY AND WE DO NOT LET PEOPLE JUST ANYONE COME.

YOU KNOW AND, I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT DO THAT.

BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE MAYBE SOME SORT OF WAY TO DO THAT SO THAT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES

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ANYWAY, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY! [LAUGHTER] I ALSO WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE CAN ANSWER THIS.

I KNOW THAT THE ZONING IS REALLY FOR DOWNTOWN AUBURN BUT WE HAVE ZONES AND WE ARE NOT THERE.

ON UNDERSTAND WHY ARIZONA'S BEING AFFECTED.

>> THIS CURRENTLY IS A LEGAL MATTER.

I WILL ASK THE CITY MANAGER. HOW WOULD YOU REACT TO THAT

QUESTION? >> THERE IS PENDING LITIGATION ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS SO I COULD ONLY SPEAK IN BROAD TERMS. WHAT WAS DECIDED BY THE COUNCIL ON THE 16TH WAS, CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN YOU COULD HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BASED ON A LOT OF THINGS THEY CONSIDER AT THE TIME AND CERTAIN AREAS YOU CANNOT.

AND THAT TRACKS THE ZONING ORDINANCE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SO ON. IT IS PURELY A DECISION OF THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ALL OF THOSE REASONS ARE ALSO DUE TO PENDING LITIGATION AND I CANNOT SPECULATE WHETHER COUNSEL TOOK THE ACTIONS THAT THEY TOOK BUT WE HAVE TO BE, UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CANNOT TALK A LOT ABOUT THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW WITH PENDING LITIGATION.

>> OKAY. >> BUT THERE ARE ZONES, THERE ARE THINGS ON THE WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN READ THROUGH AS TO WHY SOME OF THE REASONS ARE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOWS.

AND YOU'RE WELCOME -- >> I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS NICK WATERS, I LIVE AT 128 KIMBERLY DRIVE IN AUBURN.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, I LIKE TO START BY THANKING YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ORDINANCE.

ALONG WITH THE WORK OF THE TASK FORCE AND PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. SOME FEATURES INCLUDE A TWO STRIKE REVOCATION OF A HOMESTAY AND FORBIDDEN HOMESTAYS TO BE RENTED FOR OTHER TYPES OF EVENTS.

MY FAVORITE FEATURE OF THE ORDINANCE IS THAT IT DEFINES A HOMESTAY AS A HOME OCCUPATION MAKING IT SEPARATE FROM THE CONCEPT OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. WHEN A DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE WAS FIRST FEATURED, THE FIRST FEATURE WAS PROPOSED, I WAS EXCITED. BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD CUT THROUGH A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION TO A HOMEOWNER RENTING A PORTION OF THEIR HOME OCCASIONALLY.

AND IT MEANT THAT NO ONE WOULD HAVE A REASON TO WORRY ABOUT THEIR OWN PROPERTIES, OPERATING STRICTLY AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

I THOUGHT THAT WOULD CUT DOWN ON EVERYONE FEARING SHORT-TERM RENTALS. BUT A NARRATIVE THAT A HOMESTAYS EQUIVALENT TO THE TYPICAL FRATERNITY HOUSE, AND WILL DESTROY THE FABRIC OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IS PREVAILED.

THIS WAS THE PRODUCT OF A CAMPAIGN BASED ON FEAR MONGERING AND ANECDOTES. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

UNFORTUNATELY, HOMESTAYS WERE NOT PERMITTED IN ZONES WITH FAMILY DEFINITION WHICH GOES AGAINST THE POINT OF HAVING THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. I HEARD THE ARGUMENT MADE THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS HAVE THEIR PLACE IN TOWN AND THAT PLACE IS NOT IN THESE ZONED NEIGHBORHOODS.

BUT IN REALITY, A SHORT-TERM NONPRIMARY RENTAL AND NOW HOMESTAYS ARE PERMITTED, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE MANY, IF ANY TRADITIONAL SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY LOOP. THE AREAS WHERE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE PERMITTED ARE PRIMARILY STUDENT HOUSING AND CONDOS. I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW, HOW MANY OF THE RENTALS IN THIS AREA ALREADY ARE SELECTED -- LEARNING HOW MANY OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN THE AREA, SELECTED TO BE HOMESTAYS VERSUS SHORT-TERM NONPRIMARY RENTALS. I'M A FATHER THROUGH WITH COLLEGE AND RETIREMENT TO SAVE FOUR. MORTGAGE TO PAY, AND FACING INFLATION LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPTION TO RENT MY BASEMENT IN THE FUTURE AND HAVE THE EXTRA INCOME STREAM.

I'M CONFIDENT I CAN DO SO WITHOUT BECOME A NUISANCE BUT TO MY NEIGHBORS AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER AMENDING THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE TO ALLOW HOMESTAYS IN ALL ZONES. THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? MR. WILKINS, YOU'RE MAKING SOME COMMENTS EARLIER.

I ASKED YOU TO WAIT I DO NOT WANT TO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

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>> YES, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE NEVER REALIZED THAT THINGS WERE SHORED UP. I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THAT COMMENT. I REALLY THINK WE ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THE CITY. I DON'T, I WISH THAT I WOULD SAY THAT ALL OF YOU IN THE COUNCIL, SOME OF YOU STAYED IN AIRBNB AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

MAYBE I'M WRONG. BUT I BET YOU HAVE.

AND THE REASON IS THAT IT IS SO UNIQUE.

LIKE AUBURN, IT IS A PLACE WHERE I ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME TO MY HOME. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO EVERYTHING IN MY HOME. THEY OPEN THE CLOSET, IT HAS MY CLOTHING IN THERE. OKAY? WHY IN THE WORLD WHAT I LET ANYONE DISRUPT THE CITY AND LOSE THAT IMAGE WHEN THEY COME, THEY THANKED ME.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOTELS ARE PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE IN THE HOTEL.

BUT IN MY PLACE, THEY THANKED ME.

THEY SAY IT GIVES THEM SUCH AN IMAGE OF AUBURN.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A LOT OF ALUMNUS, THEY COME IN AND THEY SAY, WE WANT TO COME HERE AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE PART OF IT. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN MY AREA THAT KNOWS THAT I DO AIRBNB. I THINK THEY HAVE THE CONCEPT THAT I DO THAT. THE REASON IS IT IS NOT DISRUPTING THE AREA AND IT IS NOT A BUSINESS.

YES WE PROVIDE INCOME TO DO THINGS BUT IT IS NOT A BUSINESS, OF OWN 14 DIFFERENT BUSINESSES VARYING FROM RECYCLING TIRES AND SO FORTH. IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT INDUSTRY. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE.

BUT AIRBNB, IT ALLOWS ME TO HAVE INCOME THAT I CAN BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS I WAS DOING EARLIER.

AND I THINK THAT WE MISS THE REAL PURPOSE OF HAVING THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. PEOPLE COME AND LOVE THE CITY OF AUBURN. THEY THINK THAT IT GIVES THEM THE IMAGE THEY WANT TO BE CLOSE TO THE UNIVERSITY.

I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE UNIVERSITY, BUT ALSO HAVE PEOPLE FROM OTHER PLACES, I'VE NEVER BEEN TO AUBURN BEFORE I WANT TO STAY IN AIRBNB BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT ATMOSPHERE. AIRBNB IS AUBURN ATMOSPHERE OUT OF THE OTHER ONES. AND I WILL NEVER ALLOW SOMEONE WHO WOULD DISRUPT, WOULD PARTY. IN MY AREA, I DON'T HARDLY EVER HEAR NOISE PERIOD. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ALSO SOMETIMES SUSTAIN ANOTHER AIRBNB, WHEN THE HAS ONE PLACE OR I STAY IN A HOTEL.

SO I'M NOT ONLY HAVING INCOME, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING PROVIDED A TEENY BIT OF IT.

BECAUSE I'VE NOT BEEN HERE BEFORE.

I AM IMPRESSED. I HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PLACES AND I THINK FOR AUBURN, IT'S PRETTY CLASSY.

>> CAN YOU PLEASE WRAP IT UP? >> I'M SORRY.

THREE MINUTES, I FORGOT! I THOUGHT I HAD TWO HOURS.

[LAUGHTER] I DO APPRECIATE IT.

I WISH THEY WOULD CONSIDER AND ALSO, THAT THE PEOPLE.

I WISH THAT WE'D BEEN INVOLVED MAKING THE DECISION BECAUSE THERE NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENING UP BUT NOT -- ONE AREA IN THE STREET NEARLY ACROSS THE STREET, YOU COULD HAVE IN AIRBNB. AND THE OTHER SIDE, CEASE AND DESIST. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> LINDA DAIN, 474 SCOTT STREET.

IN SPRING 2018, STEPHEN DIXON ANNOUNCES CANDIDACY FOR THE WORD FIVE. I AND MANY OTHER RESIDENTS CAMPAIGNED HARD FOR HIM AND VOTED HIM INTO OFFICE.

HE TOOK HIS OATH TO UPHOLD AUBURN LAWS IN FALL OF 2018.

ON MAY 6, 2019, MR. DIXON HOSTED A WORD FIVE MEETING WITH THEN PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR SCOTT AND A SPEAKER.

CITIZENS ATTENDING MADE CLEAR TO MR. DIXON, THEIR OPPOSITION TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND CERTAIN ZONES.

MR. KHAN STATED AT THE MEETING, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION ON JANUARY 14 OF 2020, AND AT A LEGAL WOMEN'S VOTERS MEETING THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS WERE CURRENTLY ILLEGAL. MR. DIXON HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS EMAILS FROM WARD 5 RESIDENTS OPPOSING SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THESE ZONES, OFTEN 1500 RESIDENTS CITYWIDE SIGNED PETITIONS SUPPORTING THE ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITED SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THESE ZONES.

AT THE FEBRUARY 16 2021 CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD VIA ZOOM,

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I BELIEVE. GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO ABOUT 9 1/2 MINUTES IN. MR. DIXON HAS SQUANDERED HIS REPUTATION IN ORDER TO FEED HIS OWN SELF INTEREST.

AND THAT OF PERHAPS 100 OR SO OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WANT TO SIMILARLY COMPROMISE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

MEANWHILE, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE HAVE INVESTED IN HOMES AND QUIET, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS IN WHICH TO SAFELY RAISE THEIR FAMILIES, CONFIDENT OF THEIR INVESTMENTS, BECAUSE OF THE CITIES PUBLIC STATEMENTS, THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS WERE NOT PERMITTED IN THESE ZONES.

MR. DIXON HAS NOW INSULTED HIS FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WHO FOLLOWED THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITIZEN TASK FORCE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION OVER THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD BY SUING THEM. MANY OF US IN WORD FIVE ARE EMBARRASSED AND DISAPPOINTED. THE PERSON WE BELIEVED IN AND CAMPAIGNED FOR APPEARS TO LACK INTEGRITY.

HE SWORE TO UPHOLD THE LAWS OF THE CITY AND LATER, TO FOLLOW THE LAW. IF THE ORDINANCE PASSED, AND YET HE CONTINUES TO RENT HIS BASEMENT APARTMENT CONTINUALLY.

MR. DIXON NOSE HAS ONE A LOT SINCE THE VIDEO PROCLAIMING HE WOULD FOLLOW THE LAW. THANK YOU AND THIS WAS VERY PAINFUL. EXTREMELY PAINFUL FOR ME TO HAVE TO SAY. BUT, THIS IS THE EXPRESSION OF MANY OF HIS CONSTITUENTS AND I REGRET IT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

WHO WILL BE NEXT? YES, SIR?

>> HELLO, THANK YOU, COUNSEL AND MR. MAYOR FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS.

THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED, STARTED BECAUSE THINGS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POND WERE VERY RESTRICTIVE AND UNFAIR.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE IS ALSO THE SAME AND I AM A VESTED MEMBER OF THIS COUNTY, GRADUATE OF AUBURN HIGH SCHOOL AND HOPE TO ONE DAY MOVE BACK TO THE GREAT TOWN. ALSO, STEPHEN DIXON HAS BEEN MY BEST FRIEND SINCE HIGH SCHOOL. HE IS LIKE THE REST OF THESE PEOPLE, HARD-WORKING MAN, JUST TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT HE WOULD PUT ANYONE IN HIS HOUSE THAT IS GOING TO CAUSE ANY TROUBLE WITH THE CITY OR HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU. >> WHO WILL BE NEXT?

>> SUSAN BOTH, 1188 EAST UNIVERSITY DRIVE.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.

I WANTED TO, YOU ALL KNOW MY POSITION ON THIS.

I'VE TALKED TO YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES.

BUT I WANTED TO -- SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN -- HOLD ON A SECOND. GOING TO ADDRESS THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE BY MS. DEAN THAT CAME UP AND TRIED TO ASSASSINATE THE CHARACTER OF ONE OF YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND IT WAS ALLOWED TO GO ON WHICH I DID NOT THINK WAS ALLOWED.

IN THIS CHAMBER. BUT SHE MADE THE COMMENT THAT MR. COTTON SAID THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS WERE ILLEGAL AT THE TIME. SHE IS INCORRECT THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS THAT.

THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL DISCUSSION ALL ALONG. IS WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE INCORRECT STATEMENTS AND UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE TOOK THOSE AS GOSPEL.

AND THEY WERE NOT, AND THE LOUD PEOPLE IN YOUR EAR ARE THE ONES THAT YOU LISTEN TO. AND THEIR POSITION IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CORRECT POSITION.

JUST BECAUSE THEY ALLOW DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE RIGHT.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO TOLD ME THAT THEY JUST WANTED THE WHOLE THING TO GO AWAY. THEY WERE TIRED OF DEALING WITH IT. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WENT AWAY.

Y RIGHTS WENT AWAY. AND WE ALL OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND EVERY COUNCIL MEETING, YOU SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

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AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET THE SAME ACCOMMODATIONS.BUT YOU DON'T DO THAT. WHEN YOU PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, DO YOU MEAN IT? DO YOU MEAN IT? BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING IT.

YOU ALL TOOK AN OATH THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT ALL OF US. MY HOUSE LOOKS THE SAME AS OTHER PEOPLE IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

BUT YOU ALL TOOK MY RIGHTS AWAY.

I HAD NOT HAD A COMPLAINT. NOTHING.

I REPRESENT THE CITY OF AUBURN QUITE WELL.

BUT TO GET BACK TO MR. DIXON, AND THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AGAINST HIM. HE REPRESENTS ME IN WARD 5. AND I'M PERFECTLY OKAY WITH WHAT HE'S DOING.

HE HAS A RIGHT TO DO THAT. HE DOES NOT LOSE HIS RIGHTS BECAUSE HE SITS ON THIS COUNSEL.

AND ANYBODY IN THE CITY OF OUR BRAIN THAT THINKS IT IS OKAY, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONSTITUTION AND PEOPLE'S RIGHTS. SHE MAY THINK HER POSITION AS THE DOMINANT ONE BUT IT IS NOT. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE HER THAT YOU ALL LET INFLUENCE YOU AND I'M ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE AGAIN. TAKE IT BACK, BACK STEP IT.

YOU ARE WRONG. YOUR POSITION IS WRONG.

YOU CANNOT DEFEND IT. IT WAS WRONG WHEN YOU STARTED, IT IS WRONG NOW BUT MR. DIXON DID NOT DESERVE THE ATTACK THAT HE JUST GOT. AND SHAME ON HER.

>> WHO WILL BE NEXT? >> HELLO AGAIN.

I'M HERE TO TALK MORE ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

YOUR FAVORITE SUBJECT I'M SURE PEARMAN NAME IS JOSH POOLE, 334 HICKORY WOODS DRIVE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ECHO HER COMMENT THAT I THOUGHT THAT YOU MADE IT CLEAR IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS THAT THIS WAS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTACK ANY COUNCILMEMBERS. BUT I THINK THAT WAS A THREE MINUTES OF SLANDERING THERE. AND SO, I'M AN AVID SHORT-TERM RENTAL USER. WE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE WORLD.

WE ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY STAY IN AIRBNB OR VRBOS. WE ALSO LOVE HOSTING PEOPLE WE COUNSEL HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OVER AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT AFFECTS MY NEIGHBORS IF WE ARE FOLLOWING ALREADYESTABLISHED CITY ORDINANCES ON TRAVEL , IMEAN ON SAFETY . NOISE, TRASH, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK IT IS ABSURD THAT THE FEAR MONGERING HAS LED Y'ALL TO HAVE, TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS AND THIS WHOLE THING HAS TURNED INTO A GIANT MESS. IT IS REALLY UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT THE PEOPLE OPPOSING THIS WOULD THINK I WOULD JUST LET UNSAFE PEOPLE STAY IN MY HOME.

THERE'S A PRETTY STRICT VETTING PROCESS THAT GOES THROUGH AIRBNB. IF YOU HAVE EVER USED THE PLATFORM, YOU CAN RAMP UP THE VETTING PROCESS.

AND SO, I WOULD NOT WANT SOMEONE UNSAFE STAYING IN MY HOME. AND IT SHOULD BE, NONE OF MY NEIGHBORS BUSINESS WHO I HAVE IN MY HOME.

IF I CAN HAVE A GUEST OVER AS OFTEN AS I WANT AND STAY THE NIGHT, AS OFTEN AS THEY LIKE, THEN IS THE PROBLEM WITH THEM PAYING FOR THAT? WOULD THAT ALSO GO BACK TO LIKE IF, A PIANO TEACHER TEACHES PART-TIME IN HER HOME? IT'S NOT A FULL-TIME GIG OR FULL OCCUPATION.

IT IS JUST MONEY THAT YOU MAKE ON THE SIDE.

AND SO, I JUST, WHAT IF WENT OUT OF TOWN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND HAD SOMEONE HOUSESIT? WOULD WE JUST EXPECT THEM TO STAY THERE FOR FREE? WE WOULD BE PAYING THEM BUT WHAT IS THE FLIPSIDE OF THEM STAYING AND PAYING US? I ALSO THINK THAT AIRBNB IS MORE EQUITABLE.

WE ARE SHARING OUR TOWN WITH PEOPLE IN A MORE INTIMATE SETTING AND ALSO, A BETTER ALTERNATIVE THAN STAYING IN A HOTEL. MY TRAVEL I STAY IN AIRBNB AND NOT HOTELS. I THINK A REASONABLE COMPROMISE WAS OPPOSED BY COUNCILMAN WHITTEN TO THE AMENDMENT.

AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS I GUESS VINDICTIVELY SHOT DOWN.

PEOPLE ALREADY ESTABLISHED AIRBNB SHOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN. AND I TOTALLY CARE ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS QUALITY AND CHARACTER.

AND I WOULDN'T, I'D BE DEVASTATED IF THE CHARACTER

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BECAUSE MY NEIGHBORS HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THAT.

>> LET'S WRAP IT UP. >> ALSO JUST ONE FINAL POINT.

WE ARE MAKING THIS THING ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTAL WHICH IS JUST MOST OF THE TIME AN OCCASIONAL GUEST STAYING IN A SPARE BEDROOM. BUT THERE IS NOTHING BEING SAID ABOUT LONG-TERM RENTALS. WHICH TO ME, WOULD BE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD DEGRADATION.

THANK YOU AGAIN. I SUPPORT SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND I THINK THIS WHOLE THING IS TURNED INTO A MESS.

I THINK THE BEST THING WOULD BE TO GET RID OF THE WHOLE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. WHO WILL BE NEXT?

>> I HAVE SOMETHING I WANT TO SAY.

YOU WANT TO KEEP THE COMMUNICATIONS OPEN OR WAIT FOR

COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS? >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY.

GO AHEAD. >> I WILL JUST, IT IS NOT ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THE EXECUTIVE ORDER 13 985.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW, ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE GET UP AND SPEAK ABOUT IT TONIGHT. WHEN WOULD THAT BE A DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COUNCIL OR WITH THE PUBLIC? OR, I'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO ASK ABOUT IT.

SHOULD THIS BE A MEETING THAT I NEED TO DO SEPARATELY WITH,

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? >> THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AS PREVIOUSLY INDICATED, IS, WE DO NOT HAVE FINAL GUIDANCE.

IF WE ARE REFERRING TO THE RESCUE PLAN.

I'M NOT READY EXECUTIVE ORDER, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THIS. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. WE DO NOT HAVE FINAL GUIDANCE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. ANY STATEMENT I'VE MADE ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER WITH AN INTERNAL GROUP HAS TO BE STUDIED BEFORE WE CAN PROPOSE TO THE COUNCIL A PATH FORWARD.

THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE PATH FORWARD, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. IT HAPPENS IN A VERY PUBLIC MANNER. THERE ARE ALSO VERY STRICT FEDERAL GUIDELINES AS THERE ARE WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS THAT WE MANAGE NOW.

THEY HAD TO BE VERY SPECIFICALLY FOLLOWED, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO MONITOR EVERY DOLLAR OF GRANT MONEY THAT IS GIVEN THROUGH THIS PROGRAM TO EVERY PRODUCT WE USE IT FOR, MEETING FEDERAL GUIDELINES WERE WE ARE LIABLE SO THERE IS MUCH DISCUSSION AND STUDY THAT NEEDS TO GO ON.

SO THE INTERNAL STAFF COMMITTEE NEEDS TO ASSESS NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY. BEFORE WE COULD EVEN GET TO COUNSEL WITH A PLAN AND PART OF THAT IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS EXACTLY THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.

A LOT OF COMMUNITIES HAVE JUMPED OUT THERE AND THE OPINION THAT THE CITY MANAGER THEY JUMPED OUT THERE PREMATURELY. SAYING HOW THEY WILL SPEND MONEY THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO RULE ON EXACTLY HOW IT CAN BE SPENT.

THE PROGRAMS ARE OUT THERE BUT NOT THE RULES FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT WE CREATE. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FULL GUIDANCE BEFORE WE PROPOSE ANYTHING.

WE'VE HAD TIME TO STUDY IT AND YES, THERE WILL BE TIME FOR PUBLIC INPUT. ON ALL OF IT BUT WE NEED TO GET SOME BASIC INFORMATION FROM AN INTERNAL GROUP TOGETHER FIRST.

THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT READY TO TALK ABOUT, THE FINAL GUIDANCE RIGHT NOW. ALLISON IT ISN'T DUE UNTIL ONE

FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? >> THE COMMENT PERIOD ENDS ON JULY 16 AND IT WILL TAKE TIME FOR THEM TO READ COMMENTS AND ISSUE THE FINAL RULE. I WOULD THINK MAYBE 45 TO 60

DAYS AFTER. >> WE HAVE GENERAL IDEAS THAT WE ARE NOT READY UNTIL THE FINAL GUIDANCE.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SPECIFIC THINGS THERE ARE SPECIFIC PA-- PAPERWORK. WE CAN'T DECIDE TO SPEND IT ONE WAY AND THEN SAY TIMEOUT WE CANNOT DO THAT AND THEN GO BACK AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL.

MY COMMENT ABOUT 2024 THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME TO SPEND THE MONEY. WE HAVE TIME TO BE METHODICAL AND MAKE SURE WE GET PUBLIC INPUT.

MAKE SURE WE ARE CAREFUL HOW WE SPEND THE FUNDS AND HOW WE PROPOSE TO YOU AND THE PUBLIC AND HAVE PUBLIC FORUMS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE PUBLIC SAYING THAT HE ARE THE WAYS WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY SO WE ARE NOT GIVING INCORRECT INFORMATION.

PART OF IT IS, IT'S GREAT WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO DO STIMULUS STYLE PACKAGES.T IS REALLY CHALLENGING TO ADMINISTER THEM FROM OUR END. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF GROUPS REACHING OUT, EVERYONE WANTS ACCESS THE FUNDING AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE IS WHO IS ELIGIBLE WITH WHAT THE ACTUAL NEEDS ARE AND THEN WE LOOK TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS IN

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AND THAT IS AN ABNORMAL BECAUSE NEEDS ARE CHANGING.

WE'RE JUST NOT QUITE THERE YET BUT WE WILL GET THERE.

THERE WILL BE INFORMATION ONCE WE HAVE FINAL GUIDANCE AND I WILL GIVE THE COUNCIL A PLAN FOR HOW WE WILL PROCEED FROM THAT POINT FORWARD WITH A LETTER PUBLIC INPUT.

BEFORE ANYTHING IS FINALIZED. >> WE ARE EXPECTING AFTER THE COMMENT PERIOD IS OVER ON THE 16TH, YOU THINK IT WILL BE A MONTH OR, WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO ADMINISTRATE THE RULES AND SAY THIS IS HOW --

>> ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S NO QUESTION HALF THE MONEY HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND WE HAVE ABOUT 8.4 MILLION -- 8.2 MILLION I'M SORRY 16.4 ALTOGETHER SITTING IN THE CITY ACCOUNT. FROM THE TREASURY.

YOU GOT IT BUT WE CANNOT SPEND A NICKEL OF THE MONEY WITHOUT FINAL DIRECTION.AND WITHOUT ADOPTING A PLAN TO DO SO.

AND SO, WE WILL PRESENT ALL OF THAT TO YOU IN MANY WAYS AND TALK THROUGH. WE WANT TO BE METHODICAL AND MEET THE NEEDS. IT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO GO THROUGH THAT BUT WITH THE BLOCK GRANT FUNDS WE ASSESSED THE NUMBER OF NEEDS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, ABOUT THERE ARE DEFINITELY A LOT OF NEEDS. WE HAVE FUNDED A LOT OF PROGRAMS, THERE'S BEEN A BIG NEED IN COVID IN THEIR -- WE HAVE TO DETERMINE ONGOING NEEDS.HAT'S WHAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARD. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION

FOR NOW? >> ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION?

>> MUCH MORE TO COME! >> I WOULD SAY IS THE HEART OF THE COUNCIL AND CITY TO DO THE VERY BEST JOB WE CAN DO WITH THE MONEY THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO US.

AND I BELIEVE I SPEAK FOR ALL OF US THAT WE WILL PUT IN WHATEVER TIME AND RESOURCES WE NEED TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THE FUNDING AND SUPPORT.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COUNCIL?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.