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>> FOR THE WEDNESDAY AUGUST 4TH BZA MEETING, LET'S START WITH A
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ROLL CALL VOTE. >> DREW GOODER IN.
>> HERE. >> FROST ROLLINS, EMMY SORE
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>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JULY 7,
>> EMMY SORRELS YES KIM WHITE YES LATICIA KHALIF.
>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT, LET ME OPEN WITH SOME OPENING REMARKS. ANY PERSON AGGRIEVED BY ANY DECISION OF THE BOARD MAY WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER SUCH DECISION APPEAL TO THE CITY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS.
THE NEW BUSINESS, I WILL HAVE TO REACCUSE MYSELF AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO VOTE. I'M WAITING FOR FROST TO RESPOND. EMMY?
>> FROST SAID SHE COULD BE HERE IN 5 MINUTES IF WE WANT TO MOVE NUMBER TWO UP. WHEN THERE ARE FOUR OF US, IT HAS TO BE A UNANIMOUS VOTE. IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO HAVE IT HEARD TODAY OR CONTINUE IT TO NEXT MONTH.
>> I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE AND I WOULD LIKE TO WAIT TO SEE IF
FROST WILL SHOW UP. >> FOR ITEM ONE?
>> FOR ITEM TWO. >> SO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL
THERE'S FIVE OF US? >> IF WE COULD.
>> IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? GIVE IT 5 MINUTES.
>> YOU CAN'T VOTE ON THAT? >> I HAVE TO REACCUSE MYSELF FROM THAT FOR LEGAL REASONS AND WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER HERE SOON THAT CAN VOTE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO HAVE THAT HEARD, BUT IT WILL HAVE TO BE A UNANIMOUS VOTE FROM FOUR MEMBERS. WHEN THERE'S FIVE OF US, ONE CAN SAY KNOW SO IT CHANGES YOUR NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> YOU'LL WAIT UNTIL SHE GETS
ALL RIGHT. WE NEED SOME HOLD MUSIC.
NOBODY HAS ANYTHING ON THEIR PHONE?
>> I GUESS WHILE WE'RE ALL WADING, STEVE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF QUICKLY. >> THANK YOU, KATY.
SO, YES, I'M STEVE FOOT. I'M THE NEW PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY AND, OF COURSE, THIS IS MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO MEET YOU AND I MET SOME OF YOU WHEN I CAME IN SO IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU, NICE TO BE HERE, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
>> YOU CAME FROM FLORIDA? >> NO, MOST RECENTLY I CAME FROM
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>> NICHOLASVILLE NEAR LEXINGTON. >> WELCOME TOO AUBURN.
>> THANK AUBURN. >> THANK YOU, NICE TO BE HERE.
>> FOOTBALL YOU HAVE TO ROOT FOR AUBURN.
>> MY WIFE WILL FORCE ME TO CHEER FOR KENTUCKY.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE AROUND DURING BASKETBALL.
MY WIFE WOULD WIN. >> GO TIGERS, RIGHT?
>> THE FIRST QUESTION ANYBODY ASKED ME WAS DO YOU ROOT FOR ALABAMA AND AUBURN? AND I SAID NEITHER ONE AND THEY SAID THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. NO SITTING ON THE FENCE ON THAT
SHOOK AND UNIVERSITY ARE THE SAME ROAD.
>> YEAH, I LEARNED THAT, THAT'S INTERESTING.
>> OPELAKA ROAD, SOUTHERN PARKWAY.
>> YEAH. HOW DID YOU PRONOUNCE SHRUG?
>> SHUG LIKE SUGAR, JERDEN, NOT GORE DAN.
>> AND THE NEARBY CITY IS LAFETE, NOT LAFAYETTE.
ISOKAY. IS THERE A BOOK ON THIS? LIKE A BIRD BOOK WHERE YOU PLEAS THE BUTTON AND IT THE BUTTON AND R THE BUTTON ANE THE BUTTON ANS THE BUTTON ANS THE BUTTON AND IT MAKES THE NOSE.
SO THERE'S MORE TO LEARN THAN I THOUGHT.
>> A LOT. >> PRONUNCIATIONS, TOO.
OKAY. >> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE,
STEVE? >> THIS IS MY THIRD WEEK.
>> OKAY. >> EVERYBODY KEEPS SAYING YOU
CAME BACK. >> A LITTLE MORE PUNISHMENT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT, HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH YET.
TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF, FILL THE TIME WITH WHATEVER YOU WANT? SILENCE OR ANYTHING ELSE.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME, I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM.
EASY QUESTIONS SINCE WE'RE ON THE RECORD.
>> WHY AUBURN? >> IT SEEMED LIKE THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO END MY CAREER ON. I'M FAMILIAR WITH AUBURN, A LOT GOING ON. EXCELLENT JOB FOR PLANNER, I THINK, TO BE ABLE TO BE INVOLVED AND HELP OUT WITH A LOT OF
DIFFERENT THINGS. >> I JUST MOVED HERE MYSELF.
>> FROM OUT OF STATE? >> JUST OVER THE STATE LINE BUT I'M FROM COLUMBUS, GEORGIA BUT I WAS RELOCATING FROM THE ATLANTA AREA SO THIS PUTS ME CLOSER TO MY MOM IN COLUMBUS.
>> OKAY, THAT'S GOOD. >> BUT I AGREE, IT'S A VERY NICE PLACE AND IT'S TAKEN ME A YEAR TO REALIZE THESE THINGS YOU JUST
HEARD IN ABOUT 5 MINUTES. >> SO I GOT A YEAR GRACE PERIOD TO GET THAT DOWN, I WILL FOLLOW YOUR LEAD IF THAT'S OKAY.
SHUGJERGEN, LIKE JERGEN'S LOTION.
>> IS IT CASITA OR CASEETA? >> IT DEPENDS, IF YOU'RE FROM THERE, THERE'S ALSO A WAYS TO SAY BEAUREGARD.
I LEARNED THAT QUICKLY. THIS IS OPALEKA.
YOU WILL START HEARING A LOT OF THESE, THEY COME THROUGH PLANNING SUBMISSION TONIGHT. WE HAVE AN SAUGAHATCHEE TONIGHT.
>> YEAH, THERE ARE A LOT OF INTERESTING STREET NAMES I HAVE
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HEARD SO MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE A NEW POSITION SAYING NO, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING ANYBODY YOU CAN PRONOUNCE.IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE STREET COMMITTEE.
PUT SCOOT ON THAT. >> ALMOST EVERYTHING IS THE SAME CITY, OPALEKA HAS LIKE 1 AND TENTH AVENUES.
SOMEONE ASKED ME ABOUT A GRAY STONE LANE AND THERE'S A GRAY TONE LANE IN AUBURN AND IN OPALEKA.
THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE ABOUT TO LIVE ON THE SAUGAHATCHEE.
>> AND MAGNOLIA IS THE MAIN DRAG NEXT TO CAMPUS AND PICKS UP OVER HERE AGAIN JUST RANDOMLY. NOT CONNECTED AT ALL.
>> YEAH, THAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES. YOU THINK YOU'RE THERE.
I KNOW WHEN I FIRST LIVED IN PHOENIX, YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT STREET. CUL-DE-SAC.
I HAVE TO GO BACK AND COME BACK AROUND AND THERE'S ANOTHER CUL-DE-SAC SOMEWHERE ELSE. THEY DON'T ALWAYS CONNECT WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. WHERE IN ATLANTA ARE YOU FROM?
>> THE MILTON AREA BUT I WENT TO SCHOOL AT GEORGIA TECH MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, MOVED AWAY FOR 10 TO 15 YEARS AND CAME BACK.
>> MILTON IS THE MORE RURAL HIS OR
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT MILTON -- IT DIDN'T EXIST WHEN I MOVED AWAY.
WHEN I CAME BACK AND MY REALTOR WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT MILTON,
I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS >> THEY HAVE A HORSE OR SOMETHING AS A SYMBOL, DON'T THEY?
>> YEAH, THEY DO. VERY NICE AREA.
>> JUST COULDN'T DRIVE ANYWHERE DURING THE DAY BUT IT WAS
CONVENIENT TO CERTAIN THINGS. >> OHM A GEI'M A GEORGIA TECH G
DON'T CHEER FOR AUBURN. >> SHH, DON'T SAY THAT.
ARE WE ON CAMERA AND LIVE? >> I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
GET E-MAILS AFTER THE MEETING ABOUT THIS.
I HEARD A DOOR OPEN. >> FROST HAS ARRIVED.
SINCE I'M RECUSING ON ITEM ONE, DO YOU WANT ME TO NOT DO ANYTHING WITH IT OR JUST NOT VOTE?
>> YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION.
YOU MAY NEED TO STEP DOWN FROM THE DIAS.
>> OKAY, THAT'S FINE. >> OKAY, WE HAVE PL-2021-353.
[1. Variance to Section 511.03(J), Accessory Use limitations, of the City of Auburn Zoning Ordinance PL-2021-00353 ]
STEPHANIE? >> THIS IS A VARIANCE REQUEST FROM DAVID LAININGS TON ON BEHALF OF ROBERT FUCCI, IF PROPERTY OWNER AT 1426 SAUGAHATCHEE ROAD IN THE CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THE REQUEST IS FOR A 99% INCREASE TO THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA PERMITTED FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WHERE THE MAXIMUM FLOOR AREA OF AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS NOT TO EXCEED 50% OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE FLOOR AREA. THIS IS A PROXIMITY MAP SHOWING THE SITE LOCATION WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND THE WHITE SPACE IN BETWEEN IS A RAILROAD AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.
THE STRUCTURE THAT IS 1800-SQUARE FOOT IS THE PRINCIPLE STRUPRINCIPA STRUCTURE, PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE, THE PRIMARY HOME ON THE SITE.
THE LARGER STRUCTURE NEAR THE BACK IS THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND THE LIGHT BLUE IS THE PROPOSED ADDITION, WHICH THEY ARE SEEKING THE VARIANCE REQUEST FOR.
THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS ALREADY ABOUT 70%, 70 TO 72% OVER THE ALLOTTED 50%, SO A TOTAL OF 120% OF THE FLOOR AREA OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE AND THIS 500-SQUARE FOOT ADDITION
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WOULD MAKE IT THE 149, 150% TOTAL FLOOR AREA.WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, TWO FOR INFORMATION AND ONE WHO WAS STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE EXPANSION.
WE FEEL THAT BECAUSE THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS ALREADY FAIRLY SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE THAT THIS DOES NOT FIT THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE OR A HARDSHIP ON THE LOT SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THIS. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE HOME IN THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT AND THAT'S WHERE THE NEWEST ADDITION IS LIKELY TO BE SEEN FROM THE ROAD.
ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE BACK AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE SHOULD YOU HAVE ANYMORE
QUESTIONS. >> ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR
STEPHANIE? >> I DO, STEPHANIE.
SO EXPLAIN THE LOGIC BEHIND THE FACT THAT THIS IS ALREADY 70, 72% OVER THE REQUIRED 50% MAX THAT IT DOESN'T POSE ANY HARDSHIP. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN?
>> THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE, BASED ON TAX ASSESSOR DATA, WAS BUILT IN 1941 AND FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL BASED ON THE TAX ASSESSOR DATA AND OLD AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY IS THAT THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WAS ALSO BUILT IN THAT TIME. IT WAS NOT FOUND ON RECORD SO THE FACT THAT IT'S OVER THE ALLOTMENT NOW, WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT BUT SINCE THEY'RE COMING TO US AND NEEDING THE BUILDING PERMIT FOR THIS NEW ADDITION IS WHILE WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT AND THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS FOR THE FULL AMOUNT THAT THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WOULD BE OVER THE 50%.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? SIR, COULD YOU COME UP TO THE --
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE -- >> CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC SO
WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> I'M SORRY, I WALKED OVER SO I COULD SEE. IT'S A WAREHOUSE, HE JUST NEEDS THE EXTRA STORAGE. HE'S GOT A BUNCH OF HOUSES, SOME THAT HE'S CLOSING OUT AND HE WANTS TO GET HIS STUFF OUT.
HE OWNS THIS PROPERTY. HE JUST WANTS TO EXPAND IT 20-FEET. THAT BLUE BUILDING ON THE LEFT IS A STORE, A DISCOUNT STORE. MIKE'S MERCHANDISE.
THE PROPERTY TOWARD THE ROAD IS A CAR LOT.
THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE ROAD IS A CAR LOT.
THE RAILROAD IS NEXT TO IT AND THE TREES ARE ALL GROWN UP SO YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IT. I DON'T THINK IT EVEN COMES OUT THAT FAR. IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THAT LEFT PICTURE.
IF YOU SEE IT, IT'S JUST A GLIMPSE AND IT'S REALLY NOT
GOING TO BE OBTRUSIVE. >> SO WHAT IS THE STRUCTURE USED FOR? JUST STORAGE?
>> YEAH, HE'S GOT A BUILDING THERE NOW MADE OUT OF TIN, TIN ROOF, TIN WALLS, AND IT'S JUST STORAGE.
>> AND WHAT'S THE PROPOSED ADDITION?
WHAT BUILDING MATERIAL? >> SAME.
>> THE EXACT SAME, OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO SAY? >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> I'LL OPEN THE MEETING TO THE PUBLIC. SEEING NO WIN, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION. OKAY.
AND OPEN BOARD DISCUSSION. DID I DO THAT RIGHT?
I HAVE NEVER HAD TO DO THAT. >> YEAH.
>> OKAY. I DON'T SEE WHERE ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A VARIANCE ARE MET.
>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE PURPOSE OF CORRIDOR DEVELOPMENT DES
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STRICT ASISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO -- I'M NEW TO THE BOARD, THE CRDS, WOULD THAT GIVE MY LEEWAY AS OPPOSED TO ADIFFERENT. >> NO, THAT'S SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICTS ALONG CORRIDORS IN A TOWN TRYING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE SUITABLE BUT THE REGULATION THAT'S BASED ON 50% OF ACCESSORY
STRUCTURES. >> SINCE THERE'S COMMERCIAL SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, DOES THAT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANCE?
>> NOT ON OUR RESIDENTIAL USE LOT.
>> I'M INCLINED TO -- IT'S ALREADY OVER WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY ALLOW TO BEGIN WITH. I JUST DON'T SEE THE PURPOSE IN -- I UNDERSTAND HE NEEDS IT FOR ADDITIONAL STORAGE BUT IT ALREADY TAKES UP FAR MORE PROPERTY THAN IT SHOULD HAVE
EVER UNDER THIS ZONING. >> MAY I SAY SOMETHING?
>> YOU ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT.
>> SURE. >> IT'S NOT GOING TO BOTHER ANYBODY. NOBODY IS EVER GOING TO SEE IT.
THE HOUSE IS UP FRONT AND IT'S COMMERCIAL ALREADY.
EVERYTHING AROUND IT THE COMMERCIAL.
>> THANK YOU. >> WE DID HAVE ONE COMMUNICATION FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS OPPOSED TO IT?
>> YES. >> WHAT WAS THE CONTENT OF THAT
OPPOSITION? >> THEY JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS A LARGE PORTION ALREADY, THAT THE BUILDING IN THE BACK WAS ALREADY FAIRLY LARGE AND THEY HAD RECENTLY CLEARED OFF A LOT OF TREES. I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS IN PREPARATION FOR THIS AND THEY SAID THAT AFTER THEY CLEARED OFF THOSE TREES THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS MORE VISIBLE.
I BELIEVE THEY WERE ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
>> WOULD YOU MIND IF I TAGGED ON TO WHAT STEPHANIE IS SAYING? STAFF HAS NO ISSUE WITH THE USE THE REQUEST, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, JUST FOCUSING ON THE ITEMS NEEDED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A VARIANCE. I THINK THE TWO OF YOU THAT MADE A COMMENT HAVE PICKED UP OBJECT FACT THAT A VARIANCE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CRITERIA. WHAT'S THE HARDSHIP? THE HARDSHIP IS SUPPOSED TO BE RELATED TO THE LAND NOT TO, FOR INSTANCE, SOMEONE WHO JUST WANTS TO EXPAND SOMETHING, DO MORE, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS IMPOSED. HARDSHIP THAT SOMEONE MIGHT THINK IS THERE SEEMS TO BE MORE RELATED TO SOMETHING THE OWNER WANTS TO DO AS OPPOSED TO THE LAND RESTRAINING.
A VARIANCE, IN A BROAD SENSE, IF A PROPERTY IS DEPRIVED BECAUSE IT'S UNUSUAL OR HAS SOME HARDSHIP RELATED TO THE LAND ITSELF, IT CAN'T BE USED FOR THINGS THAT OTHER SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE USING YOU USE A VARIANCE TO BRING IT UP TO AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL BUT NOT TO GRANT ADDITIONAL RIGHTS.
I THINK STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THIS.
I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH WHAT STEPHANIE SAID, THAT WE FIND IT DOESN'T, UNFORTUNATELY, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A VARIANCE.
>> I AM. I WILL MAKE A MEIGS MOTION TO D PL-2021-353, A VARIANCE OF 99% TO THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA PERMITTED FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
>> YES. >> EM MY SORRELLS KIM WHITE
>> DO YOU WANT TO GET DREW BACK IN HERE?
>> THE APPLICATION WAS DENIED JUST TO MAKE SURE HE'S AWARE OF THAT AND IF THE PROPERTY OWNER IS INTERESTED IN APPEALING THIS REQUEST, I'M SURE THEY HAVE A TIME PERIOD WITH WHICH THEY CAN
REPEAL THIS REQUEST. >> YEAH, I WILL READ THE STATEMENT AGAIN FOR THAT. LET'S SEE WHERE IT WENT.
ANY PERSONS AGGRIEVED BY ANY DECISION OF THE BOARD MAY WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER SUCH DECISION APPEAL TO THE CIRCUIT COURT HAVING JURISDICTION ACCORDING TO SECTION 908.02 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF AUBURN, ALABAMA.
>> DONE WITH ITEM ONE? >> MAY I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION
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BEFORE I LEAVE? CAN WE CHANGE THE ZONING?IS THAT POSSIBLE? >> NOT AT THIS MEETING, SIR.
>> IF YOU WOULD TO COME BY THE OFFICE TOMORROW, WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT OTHER OPTIONS MIGHT BE AVAILABLE.
[2. Variance to Section 502.02(C), Performance Residential Developments Town House, of the City of Auburn Zoning Ordinance PL-2021-00451]
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, ITEM
PL-2021-00451. >> THIS IS A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE FRONT SET BACK OF A TOWNHOUSE LOT.
IT'S A VARIANCE OF 5-FEET TO THE MINIMUM REQUIRED 10-FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK TO ALLOW A FRONT YARD SETBACK OF 5-FEET.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS AT 425 WHITE STREET IN THE REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WEST, CDW DISTRICT AT THE WITH STREET AND WEST STREET WHITE STREET AND WEST STREET INTERSECTION.
IT'S A LITTLE OVER A THIRD OF AN ACRE AND IS THE SITE OF THE CURRENTLY VACANT WHITE STREET BAPTIST CHURCH.
IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR ABOUT 3 YEARS AS I UNDERSTAND.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S FAIRLY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN BEING INSIDE THE CRD-W MOSTLY ALONG THE MLK CORRIDOR JUST IMMEDIATELY NORTH.
THIS IS A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN AS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE FRONT SETBACK IS SHOWN IN THE HIGHLIGHTED ORANGE AREA IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD A 3-UNIT TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM TYPE OF UNIT COUNT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO BASED ON THE ZONING DISTRICT.
THE LOT ITSELF HAS CHANGED OVER SOME TIME TO INCLUDE SOME PROPERTY THAT THEY DEEDED TO THE CITY ON THE NORTH SIDE ALONG THE DRAKE FRONTAGE AND IT'S CREATED A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING LOT LAYOUT FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON DIMENSIONS.
I GAVE YOU SOME COMPARISONS IN THE STAFF REPORT REGARDING THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AS THEY RELATE TO SIMILAR PRODUCTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE CURRENT PROPERTY. THIS IS LOOKING WEST AT THE INTERSECTION. THIS IS THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE LOT LOOKS EAST. THE RED LINE IS THE PROXIMATE BOUNDARY LINE ON THIS LOT. THE BLUE DASHED LINE REPRESENTS THE 10-FOOT REQUIRED SET BACK AND THE YELLOW DASHED LINE IS THE REQUESTED VARIANCE, SPLITTING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. BASED ON THE SITE PLAN, THE MAIN STRUCTURE ITSELF WILL BE 10-FEET BACK.
THEY WANT TO INCLUDE A COVERED PORCH OVER THE FRONT ENCHANCE WHICH WILL ENCROACH INTO THATRA WHICH WILL ENCROACH INTO THAT FANCE WHICH WILL ENCROACH INTO THAT FTANCE WHICH WILL ENCROACH INTO THAT FRANCE WHICH WILL ENCROACH INTO THAT FOOT FOOT SET BACK. ONE CORRECTION TO THE STAFF REPORT. IT SAYS THERE'S AN EXISTING CUT IN THE CURB ON WHITE STREET. THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
THE EXISTING CUT IS ON DRAKE AND THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A NEW ONE FURTHER BACK FROM THE INTERSECTION ON WHITE.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A SITE PLAN PLAN THAT WOULD SATISFY IS REQUIREMENT TO MEET TOWN HOMES AS OPPOSED TO OTHER PRODUCTS THAT ARE PROHIBITED IN THIS AREA AND SO IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMENDS MAKING THIS FLOOR PLAN AS PRESENTED PART OF THE APPROVAL.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ONLY 1 PIECE OF CORE SPAWN DAN FROM ADJOINING PROPERTIESRESPOND DAN FROM ADJO PROPERTIES AND THE PUBLIC FROM ACROSS THE STREETRESPOND DAN FR PROPERTIES AND THE PUBLIC FROM ACROSS THE STORESPOND DAN FROM PROPERTIES AND THE PUBLIC FROM ACROSS THE ST FROM ADJOINING PROPERTIES AND THE PUBLIC FROM
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ACROSS THE STN FROM ADJOINING PROPERTIES AND THE PUBLIC FROM ACROSS THE STCE FROM ADJOINING PROPERTIES AND THE PUBLIC FROM ACROSS THE STREET AND JUST A LITTLE DOWN AND THEY WERE SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSE.>> THERE'S A DECENT AMOUNT OF AREA BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WAS DEEDED. THERE'S A DECENT AMOUNT OF ROOM
BETWEEN -- >> EVEN WHERE IT STARTS, BETWEEN THAT AND THE SIDEWALK. IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING
>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE DESIGN ITSELF OR THE FLOOR PLAN BECOMES
PART OF THIS REQUEST? >> TON HOUSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE ALLWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT AS IS THE CITY BEING SENSITIVE TO THE PRESENCE OF PURPOSE BUILT STUDENT DEVELOPMENT.
PRIVATE DORMITORIES ARE PROHIBIT SOD YOU HAVE THE TWO EXTREME OF USE ALLOWANCES FOR THIS LOT SO WE HAD TO WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THE PRODUCT THEY WERE INTENDING TO BUILD WAS, WITHOUT A DOUBT, VERY SQUARELY IN THE TOWNHOUSE REALM.
THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHO GOATS TO RENT OR BUY AETS TO RENT OR BUY ANY PLACE IN THE CITY, HOWEVER, WE CAN MAKE SURE THE PRODUCTS BUILD SATISFY SPECIFIC MARKETS AS NEEDED, IN THIS CASE, THE FAMILY
>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THESE FLOOR PLANS?
ARE THESE CONNECTED? >> THEY ARE, THE IMAGE AT THE BOTTOM IS THE UPPER LEVEL. THE CONNECTED WALL IS RIGHT THERE WHERE THE MOUSE IS SCROLLING ON TOP OF DOWN ON THE UPPER LEVELS THERE'S A GAP BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THERE WILL BE A ROOF BELOW AND A SPACE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
>> I DON'T THINK THIS WAS IN OUR PACKET.
>> IT WAS NOT. >> IT WAS ON ONE FLOOR BUT NOT
THE OTHER, THE GAP. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR
STAFF? >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION AND REQUEST SOMETHING. IF YOU'RE APPLYING TO APPROVE THIS, ONE THING I NOTICED IS FOR A COVERED FRONT PURGE AND I DON'T SEEDYORCH AND I DON'T SEEDY MENTIONS ON THIS PLAN. IT'S PROBABLY 5-FEET BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT THAT WIDTH IS AND LIMIT IT TO THE
DIMENSIONS. >> WHICH WOULD BE WHY WE WOULD APPROVE CONDITIONAL TO THE PLANS AS SUBMITTED JUST SO THEY COULDN'T PUT A GIANT FRONT PORCH OR SOMETHING.
>> SO IT'S UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD BE.
>> THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT HERE.
>> CAN I TAKE THIS OFF WHILE TALKING? I'M VACCINATED. MY NAME IS MIKE MARR.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT, BOTH MARY BOYD AND MICHAEL MURRAY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JAY SAID, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING HEAVILY WITH PLANNING, TRYING TO FIND A FLOOR PLAN THAT FITS. ORIGIN NATALIE WE ONLY HAVE THE DEEDSA WE ONLY HAL Y WE ONLY HA DEEDS TO WORK WITH.
WE FOUND OUT THERE WAS A LOT LESS LAND THAN ON DEED.
THE LAND THAT WAS GRANTED FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE ENDED UP RECONFIGURING THE FLOOR PLANS AND WE WENT TO A SINGLE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS WHY YOU NOTICE A SINGLE ACCESS COMING OUT ON DRAKE. WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT BUT WE HAD TO SHRINK THE DRIVEWAY DOWN TO A SIZE TO GET SOMETHING TO FIT ON THERE. THE HARDSHIP FOR US IS BASICALLY JUST THE SHAPE OF THE LOT AND THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE LOT WAS TAKEN FOR THE USE OF PUBLIC ACCESS FOR ROADWAY, WHICH LEAVES US FOR A VERY NARROW LOT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD ON.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> YOUR ONE ENTRANCE IS OFF WEST
THE ONE THAT'S ANY IS OFF WHITE STREET.N IS OFF WHITE STREET. THAT'E IS OFF WHITE STREET. THAT'W IS OFF WHITE STREET. THAT'S A ONE WAY DRIVEWAY.
WE DID THIS SO WE CAN PULL THE HOUSE BACK JUST AS FAR AS WE COULD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> IF IT HELPS FOR THAT CONVERSATION, WE'RE SPEAKING TO THE ENGINEER DEPARTMENT, THE REQUIREMENT THEY WOULD PUT ON THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE THE WHITE STREW ENTRANCE BE ENTRANCE ONLY AND THE DRAKEET ENTRANCE B ENTRANCE ONLY AND THE DRAKE BE
EXIT ONLY. >> YES, AND EVERYTHING JAY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT WE'RE WELL AWARE OF AND THAT'S FINE BY US.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK IN
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SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST.CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR
DISCUSSION AND/OR A MOTION. >> [INAUDIBLE] ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY DEEDED THE LAND TO THE CITY.
OTHERWISE THIS WOULDN'T EVEN BE COMING BEFORE US.
I CERTAINLY THINK WE CAN CONDITION ON THESE FRONT PORCHES. IS IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A COVERED FRONT PORCH OR BECAUSE THE STRUCTURE AT ALL?
JUST THE COVER? >> IT'S THE COVER.
>> OKAY. >> IF IT'S ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE AND NOT COVERED, IT STILL COUNTS, DOESN'T IT?
>> IF IT'S JUST A CONCRETE PAD IN FRONT OF A FRONT DOOR, THAT
DOES NOT COUNT >> WHAT IF IT'S A WOODEN PORCH?
>> THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE SET BACK.
>> OKAY, ARE WE DEALING WITH A WOODEN PORCH HERE OR CONCRETE?
>> IT'S CONCRETE WITH POLES AND A ROOF.
>> I THINK THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN VACANT A LONG TIME.
I KNOW WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE TRY TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS AND I THINK THIS IS KIND OF MINIMAL DENSITY.
THERE'S A LOT OF BIG APARTMENT COMPLEXES AROUND THERE, A LOT OF STUDENT HOUSING MUCH FURTHER THAN THAT AND I THINK THIS -- OF COURSE, IT CAN BE STUDENT HOUSING, ANYTHING CAN BE, BUT IT SEEMS TO FIT THE HONE HOME AND LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.
I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE PL-2021-00451 AS PRESENTED WITH THE PLANS AND THE DIMENSIONS AND WHITE STREET BE ENTRANCE ONLY AND DRAKE BE EXIT ONLY.
ROLL LONS. SORRELLS, WHITE, KHALIF.
>> ALL
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