Sep 01, 2021 Board of Zoning Adjustment

[ROLL CALL]

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>> ARE WE READY TO GET STARTED? I CALLED TO ORDER THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1. I WILL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.

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ON THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 4? >> I APPROVE THE MINUTES.

>> SECOND.

[CHAIRMAN'S OPENING REMARKS]

[1. Variance to Section 502.02(C), Performance Residential Developments Town House, of the City of Auburn Zoning Ordinance PL-2021-00483]

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS.

FOR NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE --. >> GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS A REQUEST BY LIN YE, THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 2131 STEPHANIE COURT FOR A VARIANCE OF 11.3 PERCENT TO THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA. OF 83.6 PERCENT OF ISR WHERE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED IS 75 PERCENT.

SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED CDD, WHICH ALLOWS TOWNHOMES.

THE TOWNHOMES WERE BUILT -- OR STARTED TO GET BUILT IN 2006.

THE PARTICULAR BUILDING THAT THESE TOWNHOMES ARE ON ARE JOINED TOGETHER. AND WERE BUILT IN 2016.

SO RELATIVELY RECENTLY. THE ISR IS A MEASUREMENT OF THE TOTAL LOT AREA, ALL IMPERVIOUS SURFACES INCLUDING DRIVEWAYS, CONCRETE, AND THE FOUNDATION OF THE HOME DIVIDED BY THE LOT SIZE.HE LOT SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER 2000 SQUARE FEET. WHERE THE MINIMUM SIZE REQUIRED IS 1800 SQUARE FEET FOR A TOWNHOME.

THE STAFF WERE NOTIFIED OF THE POTENTIAL ZONING VIOLATION VIA A COMPLAINT FROM A NEIGHBOR. WHERE WE WERE NOTIFIED ABOUT ADDITIONAL CONCRETE BEING POURED IN THE BACKYARD.

SO WE WENT OUT TO THE PROPERTY AND MEASURE THE CONCRETE FACET AND FOUND IT IS, IN FACT, OVER THE 75 PERCENT MAXIMUM ISR.

SO WE NOTIFIED THE PROPERTY OWNER AND SPOKE WITH THEM ABOUT POSSIBLE REMEDIATION OF EITHER REMOVING THE CONCRETE, OR REPLACING IT WITH PERVIOUS SURFACE SUCH AS PAVERS OR PERMEABLE CONCRETE OR GRAVEL. OR THAT THEY COULD SEEK A VARIANCE THROUGH THE VARIOUS PROCESS.

THE SITE WAS APPROVED WITH DRAINAGE PLANS.

YOU WILL HEAR MORE FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER AND POTENTIALLY THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THE AREA.

THERE IS DRAINAGE FLOWING ONTO THE PROPERTY OWNER'S PROPERTY.

IT IS INTENDED TO EITHER GO TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT.

AND EITHER INTO THE CITY STORM INLET OR INTO A PRIVATE STORM INLET. AND THEN, INTO THE PUBLIC INLET ON THE STREET. HERE'S A PHOTO PROVIDED BY ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS OF THE CONCRETE AREA.

THERE IS A UNIQUE SITUATION IN THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE NEIGHBORS PURPORTING DRAINAGE ISSUES.

HOWEVER, IT WAS DESIGNED AND APPROVED TO MEET THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS. SO ANY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE OR CAUSES OF DRAINAGE ISSUES AT THIS TIME ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED TO BE REVIEWED OR LOOKED AT BY THE CITY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS AN HOA FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THERE'S NOT A REAL GOOD WAY FOR THEM TO COME TOGETHER AND FUND AN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. BUT THAT REALLY WOULD BE THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE PROPERTY. AS REQUESTED TO ALLOW THE CONCRETE TO REMAIN, IT'S ESSENTIALLY POURING THE WATER ONTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE.

THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I

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AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.>> THANK YOU.

WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER-APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? YOU CAN COME UP FRONT TO THE PODIUM AND SIGN IN.

AND THEN YOU CAN SPEAK. >> THE REASON WHY WE POURED CONCRETE IS BECAUSE WHEN WE GOT HEAVY RAINS, THE WATER SITS AT THE BACK ? I MEAN AT THE BACKYARD.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WATER ISSUES.

AND ALSO, WE FOUND SNAKES IN THE BACKYARD.

SO WE POURED CONCRETE TO STOP THE PROBLEM.

I'M NOT INTENDING TO CREATE ANY PROBLEMS FOR MY NEIGHBOR.

I TALKED TO THE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.

AND SHE IS TOTALLY FINE WITH IT.

SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN KEEP THE CONCRETE.

>> SO WHEN IT WAS GONE BEFORE, IT WAS JUST SUPER WET AND SOGGY

THERE? >> YES.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE OUR LEVEL IS A LITTLE LOWER.

SO ALL THE WATER SITS ON THE GROUND.

AND WE CAN'T KEEP GRASS ON THEIR EITHER.

IT'S ALL LIKE MOCK. SO WHEN IT'S RAINING, WE ARE

NOT ABLE TO GO OUT. >> SO IS IT THE -- I GUESS IT'S

THE ENTIRE BACK WE. >> THE ENTIRE BACK, YES.

>> THE AREA RIGHT OFF OF THE COVERED AREA?

>> YES. >> AND THE RETAINING WALL WAS ARDIE THERE? AND WHEN WAS THIS PROPERTY BUILT? WHEN DID Y'ALL PURCHASE IT?

>> WE PURCHASED IN -- I ACTUALLY DON'T REMEMBER.BUCKS BUT IT WASN'T BRAND-NEW WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT?

>> YES. YES, IT WAS BRAND-NEW.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE IF THEY BUILT THIS CORRECTLY OR NOT?

>> NUMBER. >> IS THIS PICTURE YOUR

PROPERTY? >> YES.

>> ARE YOU ANNA? >> NO, I'M ANNA.

>> I AM ALIENS SISTER. AND I LIVE IN HIS HOUSE AND HE LIVES IN MY HOUSE. WHICH IS 23 STEPHANIE COURT.

SO I OWN ANOTHER PROPERTY IN THAT CONDO AREA.

MY PROPERTY EDGES 203 STEPHANIE COURT.

AND WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. THIS IS WHY I AM HERE TODAY.

SO IF WE ARE PERMITTED TO STAY WITH THE CONCRETE, THEN I'M GOING TO KEEP BOTH PROPERTIES WITH THE CONCRETE.

IF NOT, WE HAVE TO REMOVE BOTH PROPERTIES.

SO WE HAVE THE SAME PRO WITH TH PROPERTY TOO.HAT'S WHY POURED CONCRETE AT BOTH PROPERTIES.

TO SOLVE IT. AT LEAST WE CAN GO OUT.

AND DO YOU SEE THE MIDDLE PART? WE KEEP A DRAIN -- LITERALLY, THERE IS DRAINAGE IN THE MIDDLE.

AND IT IS STILL NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM.

MY NEIGHBOR SAID SHE HAS BEEN HAVING A BAD TIME WITH THE WATER. AND WE TALKED.

AND I WAS QUESTIONING THAT EVEN THOUGH I REMOVE ALL OF THE CONCRETE, SHE IS PROBABLY STILL EXPERIENCING THE SAME PROBLEM.

I'M NOT SURE. SO WHAT IF I REMOVE ALL THE CONCRETE AND WE BOTH ARE EXPERIENCING THE SAME PROBLEM? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? SO THIS IS MY CONCERN.

>> OKAY.HANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST -- YES, YOU CAN

COME UP, SIGN IN. >> THERE WILL BE A VIDEO AND SOME PICTURES. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK 2031 WAS PUT FOR SALE LAST YEAR. ANYWAY MY NAME IS ANNA (NAME) I LIVE ON STEPHANIE COURT, 2029. I MOVED INTO THIS PROPERTY IN MAY 2019. LYNN POURED DOWN THE CONCRETE ON SEPTEMBER 16, 2020. 16 MONTHS AFTER ME MOVING.

SINCE THAT DAY, MY PROPERTY HAS BEEN SEVERELY FLOODED.

THIS HAS BEEN A CONSTANT THREAT TO MY PROPERTY.

AND NOT SIMPLY A NUISANCE. LET'S KEEP IN MIND ONE THING: THE ENTIRE BACKYARD AT STEPHANIE COURT 20 TO 31 IS COVERED WITH IMPERVIOUS MATERIAL.

AND THERE IS A FRENCH DRAIN ENDING ON MY PROPERTY LINE.

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THEREFORE, IT IS WATER RUNS INTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THE FRENCH DRAIN ENDS ON MY PROPERTY LINE.

ALL OF HER WATER IS DIVERTED INTO MY PROPERTY.

THE ROOF WATER OF ALL OF THESE EIGHT TOWNHOMES ARE POURING DIRECTLY INTO OUR BACKYARD. AND IT IS NOT COLLECTED UNDERGROUND THROUGH PIPES. MY YARD IS ONLY 50 FEET LONG.

THIS IS BARELY ENOUGH TO ABSORB MY OWN WATER.

I DO NOT NEED THE WATER OF LIN YE.

SECOND, THE CONCRETE PATCH CREATED A DAMN -- D A.M. FOR SEPTEMBER 2020, I COULD SEE A RIVER OF WATER RUNNING THROUGH THE YARDS. IT WAS A RIVER OF WATER RUNNING THROUGH THE YARDS. IN THE WATER WOULD NOT STATE IN MY YARD MORE THAN A COUPLE OF HOURS.

IT WOULD BE ABSORBED. THE ROOF WATER -- NO, SORRY.

THE WATER WOULD RUN THROUGH OUR BACKYARDS TOWARDS THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC. THIS WAS A NUISANCE, NOT A THREAT. NOW THE WATER COMING FROM 2023 AND 2025, AND 2027 STEPHANIE COURT STOPS IN MY YARD.

IT HAS CREATED A 5 TO 6 INCH DAM THAT DOES NOT ALLOW ANY WATER PASSAGE. MS. (NAME) TOLD ME MY PROPERTY WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH A PROBLEM AND SUGGESTED I ADD SOIL TO MY YARD. STEPHANIE COURT 2023, SHE STATED, DOES NOT HAVE WATER IN ITS YARD.

WHILE THAT MAKES SENSE, STEPHANIE COURT, 2023 RECEIVES PART OF THE RUNOFF. HOWEVER, IT'S WATER CAN STILL RUN TOWARDS THE END OF THE STREET TO WHERE THE PUBLIC INLET IS LOCATED. SINCE SEPTEMBER 2020, THERE HAS BEEN MUCH MORE WATER IN MY PROPERTY THAN IT USED TO BE.

AND IT STAYS THERE FOR DAYS. T EVEN ENTERED THE STORAGE ROOM AND REACHED THE HOUSE IS BACKDOOR.

IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE 16 MONTHS I LIVED THERE BEFORE. THE WATER AND HUMIDITY OF COURSE DID DAMAGE TO MY LIVING ROOM.

I CAN PULL UP MY FLOOR. IN SUMMARY, I WOULD BE GREATLY GRATEFUL IF YOU DENIED THE VARIANCE.

STEPHANIE COURT 20HAS VIOLATED THE ISR.

AND FOR 11 MONTHS AND TWO WEEKS, LIN YE HAS BEEN USING MY PROPERTY AS HER OWN PERSONAL TOILET WITHOUT GIVING ANY THOUGHT TO THE HARM IT'S CAUSING TO OTHERS.

AS THE APPLICANT STATED, SHE POURED DOWN CONCRETE AND ADDED A FRENCH DRAIN ACCORDING FROM THE DOCUMENT TO HELP REMOVE STORM WATER FROM HER PROPERTY. AND TO DIVERT THAT WATER INTO HER NEIGHBORS YARDS. PLEASE DO NOT GRANT LIN YE SUCH

A PRIVILEGE. >> EXCUSE ME, MA'AM? ARE THERE GUTTERS AND DOWNSPOUTS ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY? OR IS IT JUST RUNNING INTO THE BACKYARD? ARE THEY IN THE BACK OF YOUR

BUILDING? >> YES, THEY ARE ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING AND THEY DON'T GO UNDERGROUND.

SO THE WATER IS JUST PULLING ON THE SURFACE OF THE YARD.

FOR EXAMPLE, DO YOU KNOW THE NEW TOWNHOMES BUILT ON GATEWOOD -- THE GUTTER? THE DOWNSPOUT IS UNDERNEATH.

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> BUT HERE UNFORTUNATELY THEY

DID NOT PLAN IT THIS WAY. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK IN

FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS VARIANCE? >> GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE.

I AM A NEW NEIGHBOR, HAVING MOVED IN JUST TWO MONTHS TO 2027 STEPHANIE COURT, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO ANNA.

I THINK IT WAS MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO, AFTER HAVING SOME VERY HEAVY RAINS, WHAT HAPPENS IN MY YARD IS THAT I'M FLOODED AS WELL. BUT NOT TO THE DEGREE THAT HONEST PROPERTY IS BEING FLOODED.

AND IT WAS ALWAYS A CONCERN HAVING NOTICED THAT THE WATER IS JUST NOT GOING ANYWHERE. SO AS YOU HAD ASKED, THE

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WITH THE RAINS THAT WE HAVE HAD RECENTLY, I WAS VERY CONCERNED THAT I COULD POTENTIALLY BE FLOODED.

BECAUSE IT REALLY WENT VERY HIGH.

UP TO THE LEVEL OF MY PATIO. I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCRETE.

THERE IS VERY LITTLE GRASS IN THE BACK OF MY YARD.

SO IT'S VERY MUDDY, WITH A LOT OF LITTLE CREATURES THAT ARE ENJOYING THEIR STAY! AND I DON'T LIKE THEM! BUT THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT. I DON'T KNOW MY NEIGHBORS IN 2031. I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THEM. OR 2033.

BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THERE IS A COMING TOGETHER TO SOLVE WHATEVER THIS ISSUE IS. AND IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR ANNA, IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME.

BECAUSE HER WATER IS COMING INTO MY YARD.

WITH THE ADDITION OF WHATEVER WATER IS ALREADY FLOWING INTO THE MY YARD FOR MY OWN GUTTERS. SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER DENYING THE REQUEST TO KEEP THE SURFACE.

AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING THE CITY CAN DO BEYOND THAT, THAT WOULD HELP ALL EIGHT NEIGHBORS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

BECAUSE THE PLANNING CERTAINLY WAS NOT -- IN FAVOR OF HAVING SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. THIS IS MY FIRST HOME.

AND I AM REALLY CONCERNED THAT I COULD HAVE A POTENTIAL FLOODING, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING I WAS HOPING TO SEE.

IT WAS MY INVESTMENT SO I HOPE SOMETHING CAN BE DONE IN THE

FUTURE. >> CAN I HAVE ASK YOU A QUESTION?O YOU HAVE THE SAME RETAINING WALL?

>> I DO NOT HAVE A RETAINING WALL.

I JUST HAVE -- IT'S LIKE -- IT SLOPE DOWN.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND IT'S GOD A LOT OF COVERAGE ON IT RIGHT NOW. SOME GRASS, BUT A LOT OF MUD RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T REALLY GO OUT IN THE

BACK OF MY YARD. >> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION AND OR MOTION.

>> SO I'VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH WATER RUNOFF.

WHETHER IT'S PURPOSEFULLY OR NOT PURPOSEFULLY.

AND IT GOES INTO THE WHOLE WATER WARS CONVERSATION.O SHE HAS CHANGED FROM HER PLACE AND RUN OFF TO HER NEIGHBORS.

THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE BETWEEN THEM.

THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO.

WE DIDN'T BUILD IT. IF IT WAS APPROVED AND DONE AS THE CITY SAID IT IS, IT'S A TERRIBLE DESIGN QUITE FRANKLY.

BUT THAT'S NOT UP TO US TO DECIDE.

>> BUT THEY DID COME IN AND BUILD THOSE AFTER THE FACT.

THEY BUILT THE EXTRA SLAB AFTER THE FACT.

>> BUT IF EVERYTHING IS SLOPING DOWN AND THEY HAVE A RETAINING WALL AND ALL OF THE WATER ISN'T DRAINING OUT LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AND ALL THE DOWNSPOUTS ARE COMING INTO THIS AREA, I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO REMAIN WET. AND THAT'S WHAT THEIR ISSUE IS.

THAT'S A DESIGN FLAW. >> CORRECT.

>> OR AN IMPLEMENTATION FLAW. >> CORRECT.

AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED.

IN THE WAY THEY CHOSE HAS VIOLATED THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE

ISSUE. >> I AGREE.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY. >> SECOND.

[2. Variance to Table 5-2, Lot area, Setback, Bulk Regulations and Parking Requirements: Neighborhood Conservation District, of the City of Auburn Zoning Ordinance PL-2021-00523]

>> (INDISCERNIBLE) A REQUEST TO THE MINIMUM SIDE YARD SETBACK OF 14 FEET IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT OF NC 15 TO ALLOW AN ADDITION OF THE HOME TO BE SIX FEET TWO INCHES FROM THE EAST PROPERTY LINE. THIS ADDITION WOULD ALSO RESULT IN A VARIANCE NEEDED FOR THE TOTAL SIDE YARD SETBACK OF 30 FEET. AND TO ALLOW THE TOTAL SIDE

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AS STATED, THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION AND DISTRICT, JUST OFF OF SOUTH CAREY DRIVE.

IT IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER SIMILARLY ZONED PROPERTIES.

THIS IS A SITE LAYOUT SHOWING THE EXISTING HOME AND THE SECTION IN RED IS THE PORTION OF THE ADDITION THAT WOULD ENCROACH ON THAT 15 FOOT SETBACK.

THIS IS THE FLOOR LAYOUT OF THE HOME.

THE ENTIRE RED AREA IS THE ADDITION.

WHERE THEY ARE LOOKING TO BUILD.

BUT ONLY THE PORTION TO YOUR VERY LEFT WOULD BE THE PORTION THAT WOULD ENCROACH INTO THE SIDE YARD SETBACK.

THEY HAVE PROVIDED ELEVATIONS TO SHOW WHAT IT MAY LOOK LIKE.

THE TOP PORTION IS WHAT THE EAST SIDE PROPERTY OWNER -- THE NEIGHBOR -- WOULD SEE. IN THE BOTTOM SECTION IS WHAT THE ADDITION WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THE REAR OF THE HOME.

THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY OF THE SITE.YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES PRESENT. IN BETWEEN THE HOMES AS WELL.

AND A PHOTO FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE ON THE SIDE, WHICH IS WHERE THE ADDITION WOULD BE PLACED.

STAFF DOES FEEL THAT BECAUSE OF THE ANGLE OF THE LOT AND THE ANGLE OF THE HOME AND THE ADDITION, THAT MINIMAL IMPACTS WOULD BE MADE. AS SEEN FROM THE ROAD.

WE HAVE RECEIVED COMMUNICATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER DIRECTLY NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE ADDITION. AND THEY SEEM TO BE IN FAVOR OF IT AND DON'T FEEL IT WILL IMPACT THEIR PROPERTY OR THEIR VIEW IN THEIR OWN YARD AS WELL. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, MR. HOOPER IS HERE THIS EVENING. AND I ALSO WOULD BE HAPPY TO

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU.

MR. HOOPER? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME SPEAK?

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M DAVIS HOOPER.

AS MENTIONED, I AM REPRESENTING CAPTAIN KEVIN BOBO ON THIS HOME. IN ADDITION TO THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT WE ARE WANTING TO PROCEED WITH THIS ADDITION IS WHEN THIS HOME WAS BUILT, IT WAS BUILT IN 1952. OWNERS SUITES AND BATHROOMS WERE NOT THAT IDEAL WHEN THIS HOME WAS BUILT.

SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY THEY WANTED TO PROCEED WITH THE ADDITION. ALL OF THE BEDROOMS ARE THE SAME AND EACH BEDROOM SHARES A BATHROOM.

SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THIS.

AND THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT WAS DONE ON THIS WAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT MEETINGS WITH ARCHITECTS ON SITE GOING THROUGH IT. AND NOT NECESSARILY FIGURING OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST, BUT THE BEST LAYOUT OF THE LOT ITSELF OR THE HOME ITSELF. WITH THE KITCHEN BEING ON THE RIGHT SIDE. IN THE DINING ROOM.

THIS WAS REALLY THE MOST -- NOT THE EASIEST OPTION BUT THE OPTION THAT MADE THE MOST SENSE FOR THE VARIANCE REQUEST.

BUT LOTS OF MEETINGS WERE GONE INTO TO DECIDE THIS LAYOUT.

AND SO, -- AND REVIVING THESE ORIGINAL HOMES I THINK IS AN ASSET. PEOPLE INVEST MONEY TO BRING THEM BACK TO LIFE SO TO SPEAK. SO BETWEEN THE ARCHITECT AND THE SURVEYORS AND EVERYTHING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO PRESENT TO SEE IF WE COULD BE ALLOWED THE VARIANCE.

>> IS THE BUILDING MATERIAL THE SAME?

>> YES. THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S GOING TO BE EXTERIOR TO MATCH EXISTING.

ROOFING AND SIDE VENEER. >> THE BACKYARD ELEVATION? WHY COULD YOU NOT GO FURTHER BACK?

>> SO ON THE LAYOUT WITH THE DIFFERENT BEDROOMS, THERE WERE BASICALLY EXTENDING OFF OF THE LAST BEDROOM.

SO -- IT'S A LITTLE TOUGH TO SEE, BUT THERE IS A BEDROOM AND A SHARED BATHROOM AND ANOTHER BEDROOM.

SO WE ARE JUST BASICALLY EXTENDING OFF OF THAT EXISTING

BEDROOM TO CREATE THE BATHROOM. >> WHY COULDN'T YOU NOT GO OFF

OF THAT? >> CAN YOU ELABORATE? JUST EXTENDING IT TO MAKING ONE BEDROOM NONEXISTENT AND GOING

OUT THE BACK WAY. >> JUST GOING OUT BACK SO YOU

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>> UNDERNEATH IS A BASEMENT THAT IS HERE.

AND THERE IS A DOOR TO THE RIGHT UNDER THAT BATHROOM.

SO IF WE MOVED IT TO THE RIGHT AND WENT OVER IT, THERE'S AN EXIT. THAT'S WHERE THE BACK OF THE BASEMENT DAYLIGHTS. SO THAT WOULD EITHER CLOSE OFF THE EGRESS OF THE BASEMENT, OR CREATE -- I GUESS YOU COULD DO A HALLWAY TO EXTEND IT OUT. BUT AS THE DOOR GOES OUT WHERE A DAYS LIGHT, THAT GREAT STARTS TO GO UP, THERE IS A SET OF STAIRS. ABOUT SIX STEPS.

>> WHEN YOU SAY IT DAYLIGHTS --? IT'S NOT LIKE A WALKOUT BASEMENT WITH A PATIO OR

ANYTHING? >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> OR LIVING AREA? >> NUMBER IT JUST GOES OUT AND

THERE ARE STAIRS. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ELEVATION? THERE IS A DOOR THERE.

>> THAT DOOR IS EXISTING. >> IS THAT THE ONE YOU ARE

TALKING ABOUT? >> MM-HMM.

IN THAT GRADE IS A LITTLE BIT OFF.

IT GOES CLOSE TO THE TOP OF THAT DOOR THE FURTHER YOU GO OUT. IN THE STAIRS WALK UP TO THE

EXISTING GRADE. >> SO YOU WOULD LOSE -- OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE (INDISCERNIBLE) BASEMENT?

>> IF WE WENT OUT THE BACK. >> OR YOU MOVE THE DOOR TO THE

SIDE? >> AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHEN IT STARTS -- THAT BASEMENT IS ONLY IN THAT SECTION.

IF YOU WENT IN AND TOOK AN IMMEDIATE LEFT, THEN IT OPENS UP TO THE CRAWLSPACE AREA. AND THERE IS A PATIO BEHIND THAT FIREPLACE. IN THAT GRADE ELEVATION IS A TAD BIT OFF. SO AS YOU GO THERE, THAT GRADE

IS ABOUT AT THAT DOOR. >> SO THAT BASEMENT ISN'T

ACCESSIBLE FROM THE INSIDE? >> IT IS.

THERE IS A SPIRAL STAIRCASE INSIDE THAT GOES DOWN.

>> SO DOES IT CONNECT TO THE BEDROOM THEN?

>> NOT TO THE BEDROOM. TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, ALMOST IN BETWEEN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND THE BACK THERE IS

A HALLWAY. >> OKAY.

AND AS MENTIONED, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY TREES TAKEN DOWN. THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES OVER THERE, BUT NONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT.

>> SO YOU COULD GO BACK?> I THINK, THEORETICALLY, YEAH.

YOU COULD GO BACK. BUT I DON'T KNOW WITH THE CHANGING OF THE BEDROOMS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD SACRIFICE A BEDROOM THAT'S THERE? OR MAKE THAT BEDROOM INTO A TAD BIT OF AN L SHAPE AS YOU GO BACK OUT. BUT I THINK IF YOU WERE REALLY SEEING IT ON THE SITE AND YOU SAW THE TOPOGRAPHY, IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE MORE SENSE RATHER THAN THE WAY I'M EXPLAINING IT.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR DAVIS? >> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE

ELEVATION CHANGE IS? >> FROM WHICH POINTS?

>> SO LET'S SAY FROM THE POINT --

>> I WOULD SAY FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE DOOR THAT'S EXISTING IN THE BASEMENT. AND PROBABLY 12 FEET OUT.

YOU KNOW, IT WOULD PROBABLY INCREASE AROUND 8 TO 9 FEET OR

SO. >> AND THE STAIRS ALREADY -- WHAT, THERE ARE LIKE SIX STAIRS THERE?

>> AS YOU GO UP OUTSIDE? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT COUNT, BUT YEAH. PROBABLY SIX.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, DAVIS. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS VARIANCE? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T SEE ANYONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT UP FOR THE BOARD

FOR DISCUSSION AND OR A MOTION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD

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I WOULD SAY AS LONG AS WE CAN CONDITION IT RIGHT, AND THE PLANS THAT ARE SUBMITTED --? AND ALSO, THE BUILDING MATERIAL

WOULD BE MATCHING. >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, IN THE STAFF REPORT AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE RECOMMENDATION, IT DOES SAY SHOULD THE BOARD VOTE TO APPROVE THIS, THAT WE OFFERED THREE RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL.

>> I'M SORRY.E HAVE A LETTER FROM -- IS THAT 231?

>> YEAH. THEY PRINTED UP A LETTER.

>> HOW FAR IS THAT HOUSE OFF THE PROPERTY LINE?

I'M JUST WONDERING? >> IT'S --

>> I BEEN TO THAT HOUSE. IT'S -- I THINK IT COMPLIES AS IS. IT'S GOT A NICE LITTLE POOL OUT BACK AND PORCH. BUT I KNOW WHEN YOU PULL IN FROM THE STREET ON THE LEFT -- I GUESS THE RIGHT HAS PLENTY OF ROOM. AND ON THAT SIDE -- I THINK THEIR MASTER IS RIGHT THERE. AND IT'S LIKE 14 TO 16 FEET.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT? BUT IT MAY NOT BE THAT MUCH.

I'M NOT SURE. WITH SOME TREES THERE.

I THINK -- WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE OF THESE -- WHICH I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD THING -- BUT AS THESE HOMES BECOME REMODELED AND PEOPLE TRY TO ADD ON AND MAKE THEM A LITTLE MORE UP-TO-DATE, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS ONE WAS LAST REMODELED? THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT 70 YEARS AGO.

I THINK THE LOTS PINCH A LITTLE BIT WHERE THEY ARE.

>> I GET IT. BUT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND AREA, THE LOTS ARE BIG. SO THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT THEY CAN DO. THAT'S FIND THAT THEY AREN'T GOING TO TO CUFF THE CURRENT NEIGHBOR BUT THE NEXT NEIGHBOR WILL COME IN AND SAY WHAT HAPPENED?

>> WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DECIDE WHAT IS HAPPENING CURRENTLY AND NOT TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE (LAUGHING).

IF I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL, I WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE MONEY THAN I DO NOW! (LAUGHING).

>> I THOUGHT I READ SOMEWHERE THAT THERE WASN'T ANOTHER OPTION? IT'S UNDER D. THE POSITION OF THE EXISTING HOUSE DOES NOT PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE (INDISCERNIBLE). TO MAKE IT MORE LIVABLE BY

TODAY'S CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS. >> BUT IT ALSO SAYS THERE IS NO

UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP. >> THAT'S THE KEY WORD.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

FIRST REQUEST OF THE VARIANCE OF SEVEN FEET, 10 INCHES.

CONSTRUCTION SHALL SUBSTANTIALLY FOLLOW THE PLANS, HOA APPROVAL, AND EXTERNAL MATERIALS ARE TO MATCH THE

EXISTING BUILDING. >> SECOND.

APPROVE --. VARIANCE OF EIGHT FEET, 10 INCHES. CONDITIONED ON CONSTRUCTION SHALL SUBSTANTIALLY FOLLOW THE PLANS PROVIDED TO THE

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