Jul 14, 2022 Planning Commission

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WWK, LLC MAHER. PEBARRETT-SIMPSO, INC..

GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AT THIS TIME.

REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE AGENDA ITEM WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENTS AND/OR ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM THE

COMMISSION. >> THEN, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR MOTIONS, DISCUSSIONS AND A VOTE.

>> AND THE VOTING PROCESS, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SUMMARIZE OUR ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY RELATED TO THE APPROVAL OF SUBDIVISION PLATS. BY ALBERS STATUTE, AND MUNICIPAL

PLANNING COMMISSION >> PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS PLEDGITED THAT THE PLAT MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, CODIFIED IN LAWS OR REGULATIONS PREVIOUSLY

DESCRIBED >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE POINT FOR THE PUBLIC IN ATTEND ANDS IT IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THE CITY COUNSEI WILL, EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF SUBDIVISION DECISIONS. FINALLY, DO ASK IF YOU INTEND TO SPEAK DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

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WE WILL MOVE INTO CITIZEN'S COMMUNICATIONS.

>> IF YOU ARE HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, AND/OR ANYTHING THAT'S ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SAYING NO ONE, WE WILL MOVE TO CONSENT AGENDA, BECAUSE AS

ALWAYS, THERE'S NO OLD BUSINESS. >> COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE WE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

APPROVE ALL >> COMMISSIONERS.

>>. >>SAM: I MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL

OF THE CONSENT AGENDA >>, AND YOU THAT THEY BE FORWARDED TO THE COUNCIL WITH APPROVAL.

MOTION >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

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>> AYE. THANK YOU.

WE WILL MOVE TO NEW BUSINESS. MS. SHEPHERD.

>> THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR A PROPERTY IN THE PLANNING JURISDICTION, AND OUTSIDE OF THE OPTIMAL BOUNDARY.

IT IS TO CREATE EIGHT LOTS OUT OF 52 ACRES.

AND IT IS CALLED WWK, SUBDIVISION, IT IS ALONG LEE COUNTY, IT IS IN THE PLANNING JURIS JURISDICTION. .

TEE HE IS THESE ARE THE EIGHT LOTS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THE AREA IT LARGELY UNDEVELOPED. ALL OF THE LOTS ARE A MINIMUM OF FIVE ACRES AND IT MEETS THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS FOR THE

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>> THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ARE THERE ANY REPRESENTATIVES THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

>> I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. >> THIS REQUIRES A PICK LIQ HEARING, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME, FOR ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENERALED AN ITEM. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS, DISCUSSION?

COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, MOTIONS? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 202210, WITH ALL STAFF CONDITIONS.

>> WE MAKE A MOTION. >> MOTION, AND SECOND.

>> THE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> THOSE IN OPPOSED?

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ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FINAL PLAT? .

IT IS THE SAME EXACT SHEET. FINAL PLAT DOES NOT REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MOTIONS?

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

>> THANK YOU. HAVE A MOTION, AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE

>> OPPOSED. >> THIS IS ANOTHER PRELIMINARY

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PLAT REQUEST >> THIS IS FOR HICKORY WOODS ESTATES SECOND EDITION. THIS IS THE SITE, IT IS NORTH OF IN THE PARK IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA TO THE WEST SIDE, AND TO THE EAST IS SOME COMMERCIALS, MIKE'S OR A STORE LIKE THAT.

IT IS ZONED CDD, AND IT IS CKD, AND TO THE WEST IS DDH, AND TO THE SOUTH IS DDH. THE FIRST -- THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT IS JUST FOR PHASE ONE OF THE SUBDIVISION WILL BE TEN LOTS. THIS WILL BE COVENTIONAL RESIDENTIAL, NOT PERFORMANCE, THIS PHASE WILL HAVE A DENSITY OF 3.3 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THE MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR CDD, IS FOUR, DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. THIS DENSITY IS LESS THAN THE SCURRY IS YOUR UNDERING AREA, LESS THAN HICKORY WOODS, AND CHAPEL TO THE NORTH. THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS .022 ACRES FOR THESE TEN LOTS. THIS IS THE LOT LAYOUT FOR THE EVENTUAL SUBDIVISION. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ONLY IN PHASE ONE, OR RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT PHASE ONE, EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE FOUR PHASE Z AND 47 LOTS TOTAL.

SEVERAL NEIGHBORS HAVE CONTACTED THE CITY IN REGARDS TO THIS ONE.

PRELIMINARY PLAT DOES CONFORM TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN WHICH CALLS FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL UNDER FOUR DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WHICH THIS WOULD BE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

>> ARE THERE ANY CONDITIONS THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF?

>> THERE ARE. >> THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT. FOR PLANNING, THEY WERE JUST TO THE PLAT ITSELF, JUST COMMENTS, AND FOR GIS, THEY WERE ALL JUST COMMENTS TO BE MADE ON THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT.

JUST DATA THAT THEY NEEDED, AND THEN WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.

THOSE WERE FOR THE FINAL PLAT, AND REGARDING SANITARY SEWER, AND OFFSITE EASEMENTS. THREE DEPARTMENTS.

I AM TOM HALEY, I REPRESENT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.

WE BOUGHT THIS 31 YEARS AGO. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ENGINEER WISE, I KNOW THAT THEY WILL HAVE QUESTIONS.

I MET WITH THEM TWO DAYS AGO THE NEIGHBORS THERE, WE HAD A NICE MEETING, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THIS IS A COVENTIONAL SUBDIVISION. ON ONE PAGE OF THE LETTER, IT SAID CONVENTIONAL, AND ON THE BACK, IT SAID PERFORMANCE.

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>> OUR LOTS ABOUT 70 FEET, COMPARED TO 54 LOTS IN THERE.

I PARTICIPATED WITH THE FIRST OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY YEARS AGO -- 85 OR 84, AND I KNOW IT'S HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH IT, WITH THAT OWNERSHIP, AND THIS. WE WANT TO FIT IN QUIETLY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BE A PARTNER. I MET WITH THEM ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE IT NOT TO CONNECT TO HICKORY WOODS. WE HAVE A WAY CONNECTED TO KENT.

THAT PORTION WAS NOT PLANNED TO GO AS FIRST BECAUSE IT'S IN A STATE OF BARRY MORTON. AND I OWN THAT PROPERTY TOGETHER. HE'S RECENTLY DECEASED.

I AM GLAD, AND BRETT IS GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY CLEAR CUTTING OF THE PROPERTY.

WETLANDS OR ANYTHING. BUT WE ARE GLAD TO BE HERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU TITLEIST.

I THINK THAT THIS WAS DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

I'D LIKE TO OPEN THAT NOW. >> PLEASE REMEMBER TO SIGN IN, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE COMMISSION.

>> I AM JUNE FOWLER. I SAID THAT WEIRD.

YOU'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1982, I AM A RETIRED TEACHER IN THE AUBURN CITY SCHOOLS. I DIDN'T FIND THIS LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL 2001. ARE SO UNIQUE, AND THE HOMES ARE SO UNIQUE. I HAVE A VIDEO TO SHOW YOU THE WOODLAND, AND WETLAND, AND EVERYTHING WITH THIS CUT-THROUGH COMING THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE HORRIBLE, ESPECIALLY, NUMBER ONE, WOULD BE THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN BECAUSE THE ROAD WOULD BE STRAIGHT THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAVE A VIDEO TO SHOW YOU. >> YES, WE WILL ALLOW IT IN

PUBLIC HEARING, YES. >> YOU HOPE THAT YOU CAN ALL SEE AND ENJOY THIS LITTLE UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ARE LIKE A LITTLE OASIS IN THE CITY OF AUBURN.

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>>. WALKE .

CAN LET ME MAKE THIS SHORT. YOU HOPE Y'ALL CAN SEE WHAT A NEED IT IS TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THE WAY IT IS.

THANK YOU. >> THE PLEASE SIGN IN.

>> ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? .

>> MR. PETERS IS PRESENTING REDESIGN OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE REPRESENTED TO MR. HALEY AND WE ALSO HAVE SMALL POSTERS WOULD

ANYONE LIKE A COPY OF THAT. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THE

COMMISSION WITH ALL OF THOSE >> PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM SO

WE CAN ALL HEAR YOU. >> I'M SORRY.

>> THE I AM NOT SPEAKING YET. I WAS JUST INTRODUCING, MR. PETERS IS GOING TO PRESENT A REDESIGN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE PRESENTED TO MR. HALEY EARLIER THIS WEEK AT OUR MEETING. WITH THAT, WE HAD SMALLER COPIES IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE A COPY OF THAT.

I WILL HOLD THIS. >> I THINK THAT JUNE'S VIDEO

HIGHLIGHTED. >> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR THE COMMISSION >> MY NAME IS DANTE PETERS, I LIVE AT 330 HICKORY WOOD DRIVE. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1982.

>> WENT TO AUBURN UNIVERSITY. I GOT THREE DEGREES FROM THERE, AND MY WIFE WENT ON TO TEACH IN THE INDUSTRIAL DESIGN PROGRAM, AND WE RAISED OUR CHILDREN AT HICKORY WOODS DRIVE.

IT'S QUITE A UNIQUE PLACE, VERY QUIET.

WITH THAT THROUGH TRAFFIC AND CHILDREN FREE TO ROMEY ROUND WITHOUT INTERFERENCE -- WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING KILLED OR RUN OVER. BUT ANYWAY, WE MET WITH MR. HALEY. WAS IT ON TUESDAY? AND WE SHOWED HIM A PLAN, BECAUSE HIS PLAN IS BASICALLY APPROACHED FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A CONVENTIONAL OLD PLAN, WITH TWO CUL DU SACS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WILL WORK.

BUT ANYWAY, THE MAIN THING IS THAT WE WANT TO KEEP HICKORY WOODS AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, AND WE DON'T WANT ANY THROUGH TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH IT. AND ALSO WE SHOWED THEM HOW THEY CAN DEVELOP HIS PROPERTY AND MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE WITH IT.

SO WE DID IT -- WE DID A DIFFERENT LAYOUT THAT BASICALLY SHOWED LESS ASPHALT BEING USED ON THE SITE.

THAT WOULD BE LESS COST FOR HIM. WE ALSO ELIMINATED THE TWO CUL

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THERE ARE NO DEAD ENDS THERE. >> THE NEW LAYOUT IS WALKABLE, AND SAWER DEVELOPMENT FLASH FLASH.

>> AND THEY BUILT BUILT A WALKOVER OVER OF THE STREAM, AND THEY SHOULD LOOK AT THE NORTHEAST AREA OF THE SUIT BECAUSE THAT AREA IS A LITTLE BIT MORE FLATTER.

IT WOULD GIVE A FEEL OF WHAT THE TERRAIN WOULD BE LIKE, AND HE COULD APPROACH IT A LOT MORE BETTER, AND I THINK THAT'S A POSSIBILITY OF, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACQUIRING TWO OTHER A PROPERTIES AT END OF STREET, AND THOSE HOUSES CAN FACE HICKORY WOODS, AND WE CAN CREATE A LITTLE TURNAROUND THERE, INSTEAD OF A

CUL DU SAC >> THAT TURNAROUND WILL ONLY WORK FOR A COUPLE OF HOUSES THERE.

AND I THINK THAT THEY NEED TO REQUIRE IS A YOU NATURAL BUFFER EASEMENT THAT WILL ABUT TO THE HOMES THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THAT PROPERTY. SO WE ARE ASKING MR. HALEY TO AT LEAST CONSIDER OUR PLAN, AND PROBABLY LOOK AT PHASE ONE WHICH IS BEING SHOWN AN ACCESS FROM KENT DRIVE.

SO WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR THAT TO BE DON, THAN WOULD GIVE US MORE TIME TO EVEN ASSIST HIM, DEVELOP HIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD

MAKE MORE SENSE >> ALSO, FINANCIAL SENSE, AND ALSO BEAUTIFY THE AREA TOO. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THE THANK YOU FOR SHARING WITH US, THIS NEW LAYOUT.

>> DO YOU GUYS HAVE THE EXTRA COPIES?

>> DO YOU WANT THEM BACK. >> YES.

>> WE HAVE A FEW LEFT IF THEY WOULD LIKING A COPY.

>> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN.

IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.

>> WELL, I AM UP HERE, SO I WILL GO AHEAD.

>> YOU ARE NEXT. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO HOLD THIS. HI, I'M READY NOW.

MY NAME IS JOSH POOLE, I LIVE AT 334 HICKORY WOODS DRIVE.

I'M ACTUALLY MR. PETERS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT OF HIS PLAN.

I THINK THAT IT IS AN INCREDIBLE REDESIGN, AND WE MET WITH MR. HALEY ON TUESDAY NIGHT. WE ARE VERY MUCH APPRECIATIVE OF TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH US. WE KNOW IT'S A VERY BUSY MAN, AND HE HAS A LOT OF COALS IN THE FIRE, AND IT MEANT A LOT TO US.

I KNOW THAT TYPICALLY THESE TEN PLATS ISN'T SOMETHING HUGE ON YOUR RADAR, BUT IT IS FOR US. AND WE ARE REALLY ADAMANT ABOUT THE CONNECTION OF HICKORY WOODS TO THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.

ALSO, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THESE TEN PLATS.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 47 PLATS, AND WITH THOSE 40 CERTAIN PLATS BEING ZONED A CDD, THAT ALLOWS FOR FOUR UNRELATED OCCUPANTS WHICH IS NOT UNREASONABLE TO CONCEIVE THAT YOU HAVE QUINN UP HE WILL THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAN HOUSES, AND WE COULD HAVE 53 MORE HOUSES TRAVELING OUR ROAD, AND IF IT IS CONNECTED FROM KENT DRIVE, NOT ONLY 150 CARS FROM THOSE RESIDENTS, BUT USING OUR ROAD AS A CUT TRUE, AND YOU HAVE A MINUTES THROUGH TRAFFIC, FROM AVOIDING, GAME DAY, GRADUATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT WOULD EASILY BECOME A SIGNIFICANT CORRIDOR. OUR ROAD IS CURRENTLY A LOCAL ROAD. THIS WOULD MAKE IT A CONNECT OR ROAD. WE DO NOT WANT THAT.

I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, DAN.

WITH THESE. MR. HALEY WAS PUT THE EMPHASIS

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SO WE DON'T THINK THAT THE CONNECTED THROUGH ROAD IS NECESSARY, AND IT ALSO MAKES WAY MORE SENSE, I AGREE WITH MR. PETERS, THAT PHASE ONE SHOULD BE AT KENT DRIVE AND NOT AT HICKORY WOODS. NOT ONLY IS THAT EASIER PART OF THE PROPERTY TO STARTED CONSTRUCTION WHICH THAT IS IRRELEVANT TO YOU GUYS, BUT IT IS BETTER ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES GETTING IN AND OUT OF KENT DRIVE.

AND ALSO KENT DRIVE ALREADY HAS TWO ACCESS POINTS WITH MR. PETER PLAN THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES AND EXITS.

THEY CAN TAKE A RIGHT ONTO KENT, AND GET ON EAST UNIVERSITY, AND TAKE A LEFT, AND GOD ON THE NEXT ROAD, AND THERE ARE TWO ACCESS POINTS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES. YOU ARE CONSTRICTING WITH 47 HOMES AT THAT POINT AS OPPOSED TO NEARLY 100 HOMES IF YOU CONNECTED TO HICKORY WOODS. IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER FOR THE CITY IN THAT RESPECT. WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT BEHIND THE HOME. WE KNOW THAT ULTIMATELY IS IN THIS ISN'T NOT IN YOUR BACKYARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WE ARE FULLY AWARE, WE ARE NOT DELUSIONAL THIS IS HIS PROPERTY HE CAN DEVELOP IT HOW HE WANTS TO WITHIN REGULATIONS, HOWEVER, I THINK THAT THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS AFFECTED SHOULD

HAVE SOME SAY IN THIS >> I THINK THAT WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY.

I THINK THAT YOU GUYS CAN AGREE WITH THAT.

IT WAS DESIGNED AS AN URBAN FOREST.

THERE'S A UNIQUE CHARACTER AND QUALITY.

WE DON'T WANT THAT CHARACTER AND QUALITY DIMINISHED.

THERE'S 15 ACRES OF PRISTINE LAND THERE.

WE WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE TO SEE, I THINK THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE SITE BUY IT AND JUST EXTEND. OF COURSE, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WILDLIFE DISPLACE UP, AND THE POTENTIAL OF CLEAR CUTTING, BUT WE ARE ALSO IF YOU LOOKED AT THE MAP, YOU PROBABLY.

THEY HAVE A TOMB THAT RUNS THROUGH THEM.

BUT WITH INCREASED VEGETATION REMOVAL YOU ALSO HAVE INCREASED RUNOFF. AND THAT RUNOFF WOULD INUNDATE THAT STREAM. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTHWESTERN QUADRANT OF THAT PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE THE TOPOGRAPHIC GRADE IS SHALLOW, 25 FOOT DROP AND THAT SHOULD BE DELINEATED AT WETLANDS AND IT IS NOT CURRENTLY BECAUSE THEY USE THAT FEMA MAP AND THAT STREAM ISN'T BIG ENOUGH AND WITH THAT BEING UNUNDATED IT AFFECT THE FLOOD LINE FOR IVY STREAM, AND IS THE WATERSHED.

I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SEVERAL AGENCIES ABOUT THAT.

ALSO NOTICE'S CLEAR CUT YOU WILL COMPLETELY SCALP THE TOP OF DINIUS, PARK. CITY PUT A GREAT DEAL EFFORT ON THAT, AND IT CHANGES THE CHARACTER OF THAT PARK

>> SO ULTIMATELY WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS FOR YOU TO POSTPONE YOUR DECISION TONIGHT. WE'VE COME UP WITH THESE PLANS

IN LESS THAN TEN DAYS >> WE THINK THAT WE CAME UP WITH A GOOD PLAN FOR LESS THAN TEN DAYS AND IF WE HAD MORE TIME I THINK THAT IT'S NOT AWE UNREASON S THANK YOU.

>> PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN, IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS AMANDA POOLE, I LIVE AT 334, HICKORY DRIVE. I BASICALLY, SUPPORT DANTE PETERS FOR HICKORY WOODS. IT OFFERS A WAY TO KEEP HICKORY WOOD, BY NOT MAKING HARRY RHODA CUT THROUGH ROAD.

PRESERVES A TREE LINED BUFFER, AS WELL AS SAVING HALEY RED SOME MONEY AND DEVELOPMENT. LIKE OTHERS, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY, HAVING THE POSSIBILITY OF MUCH MORE TRAFFIC

OUR ROAD IS DANGEROUS. >> KID ENJOY BIKING AND WALKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A LOT OF THAT THAT GOES ON. IT WOULD BE WORRISOME TO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF UP TO FIVE TIMES THE AND THE OF TRAFFIC IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I ALSO WANT TO PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS'S NAME SAKE. WE ARE HICKORY WOODS.

THERE'S LOADS OF TREES OUT THERE, IT'S GORGEOUS AS YOU CAN SEE. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS WELL.

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THAT YOU. ANYONE ELSE?

>> CONTAIN A BARK ERIE LIVE AT 343 BUTTERF MR. PETER'S PLAN, T HALEY WITH THE DESIGNS, THE HALEY FAMILY ACTUALLY HELPED ME GET INTO MY HOME. RICK HALEY HELPED MEAN GET INTO MY HOME, AND. FOR HIM TO ONLY BEING OPENING IT FROM KENT ROAD THAN HICKORY WOOD.

I THINK THAT WE TAKE SOME TIME FOR MORE CONSIDERATION, AND WE SHOULD DELAY THROUGH NEXT MONTH OF WE ARE DDH, AND THEY ARE CDD, IT WOULD BE MORE CONGRUENT TO OPEN IT THROUGH HICKORY WOOD.

AND I COULD HAVE MY HEAD IN THE SAND, AND I LIVE ON BUTTERNUT, AND SAY I DON'T CARE, IT'S NOT MY BACKYARD.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE A CLOSETITUTE KNIT NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAD A COOKOUT AND A NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERING ON SUNDAY, IN A COOL IT DESACK, AND WE HAD PEOPLE OVER FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, AND ONE THING THAT THEY DID MENTION, IS THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY PROSPECTIVE BUYERS IF WE DO A CUL DU SAC AT HICKORY WOODS IF WE GO AHEAD AND KEEP THAT SEPARATE FROM THE PROPERTY THAT MR. HALEY IS DEVELOPING. WE ALREADY HAVE THAT LINED UP IN MR. PETER'S PLAN. I WORK IN MEDIA IN COLUMBUS.

SO I DEAL WITH PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT IT BUT YOU ASK WHAT DO YOU WANT INSTEAD, AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU. IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

FOR US TO HAVE THE VERY VIABLE SOLUTION THAT MR. PETERS HAS HERE TO PRESENT THAT, I THINK SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR NUMBER ONE HOW MUCH WE CARE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT NUMBER TWO, HOW MUCH WE WANT TO WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE THE PARTNERSHIP AS WELL, AND CARE ABOUT THE CITY OF

AUBURN AS A WHOLE. >> THAT IS MUDDY TOWN AUBURN.

AND IT IS NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, THE HUNDREDS OF SQUARE FEET, AND CONCRETE THAT'S THERE SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT THE ARMY CORPS OF PEOPLE AND FEMA REVIEWED THAT.

AND IT MAY BE A LOT DECISION. AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A PLAN TO

WORKS TOGETHER FOR EVERYONE. >> PLEASE SIGN IN.

>> WITH THERE BE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?

>> MY NAME IS JIM, BURSON, I AM A NEIGHBOR ON IVY LANE, WHICH EVENTUALLY WILL BE IMPACTED. I ASSUME THAT WILL AT ANOTHER TIME THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED. HOWEVER, I AM ALSO -- I GUESS I AM AN AMATEUR BOTANIST, AND ARTIFACT COLLECTOR.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK ABOUT A DELAY FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THAT EVERY WOULD BE HAS SPEAK SPOKEN, BUT ALSO TO TAKE A LITTLE DEEPER LOOK, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ARTIFACTS FOUND IN THAT AREA OF LOCAL NATIVE AMERICANS WHICH ARE VERY

IMPORTANT TO THE LOCAL TRIBES. >> I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO SPEAK TO IT, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN DON.

I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA, AND I KNOW WHERE TO COLLECT IT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN VERY CAREFUL NOT TO BOTHER IT.

BUT IT MAY WELL BE, AND I AM SPECULATING.

BUT I CAN TAKE IT FURTHER. THERE MAY WELL BE AN ENDANGERED PLANT, NATIVE TO ALL IN THAT WETLAND AREA, AND I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH A NOTCH MORE EXPERTISE AND INTEREST THAN I HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE, IF IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT. AND IF IT IS, IT IS, AND IT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT. AND NONE OF THOSE ARE THREATS.

I AM JUST KIND OF STANDING UP FOR ANCIENT TIMES, THE ENVIRONMENT, AND EVENTUALLY MY BACKYARD.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO

COME FORWARD? >> .

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>> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I AM HERE BECAUSE -- >> WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR

NAME AND I ADDRESS FOR US. >> OKAY.

MY NAME IS VICTOR PANANGALA, AND I THINK THAT I SENT AN E-MAIL DESCRIBING WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THE HEARING.

BUT I ALSO SUBMITTED AN E-MAIL, AND I WAS AT THE UNIVERSITY, I AM AN AMER EMERITUS, OF THE VETEVET FAIR PROFESSOR, AND, I AM A MEMBER, THAT IS CONTINGWITH US, TO THE HICKORY DROVE IDRIVE. PP22, 011.

I OPINE THAT ANY NEW RESIDENT THAT IS RESIDENTIAL OR OTHERWISE IN WHICH THE HICKORY WOODS DRIVE WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON OUR COMMON AND ONLY ACCESS ROAD. HICKORY WOODS DRIVE, CONNECTING

THE MAIN ROAD. >> THE REASON THAT MY FAMILY AND I DECIDE TO SELECT OUR FUTURE RESIDENCE ON THIS DRIVE IS THAT IT IS THE GENERAL WITHIN HE IS AT THE TIME TICK, AND MY FAMILY AND I ARE MOSTLY CONCERNED WITH THE AMBIANCE, AND THE SAFETY OF THE LOCATION. CONJEAN MATGENIALITY , AND RESTAURANTS, BANKS, PLACES OF WORSHIP, I AM FOND OF. THE REALTOR WHOM WE ELECTED TO FIND A PROPERTY, ON VACANT, AND AVAILABLE PROPERTIES FOR SALE WITHIN THE AUBURN CITY LIMITS. THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST PROPERTY THAT WE SAW AND THEN SHE TOOK US TO PLENTY OF PROPERTIES, WHEN WE SAID TURN BACK WE, WANT TO GO TO THE FIRST PROPERTY THAT WE SAW. WITHIN THIS SPECTRUM OF PROPERTIES MY FAMILY AND I SELECTED THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OF BUTTERNUT DRIVE BECAUSE IT MET ALL IN NOT ALL OF THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND MORE.

ME AND MY FAMILY WOULD RATHER BE AT BUTTERNUT DRIVE AS, AND CALL IT OUR HOME THAN ANY OTHER PLACE.

THE UNIQUE SALUBRIUOS, AMBIANCE, CAN OVERLOOKING THE PRISTINE LAKE, AND THE BRILLIANT STREAM THAT MEANDERS AROUND BUTTER NUT, ALLURING, AND VALUABLE AND EXCEPTIONAL VIEWS.

THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL BIRDS. MILLIONS OF BEAUTIFUL BIRDS, AND AT TIMES CATCH A GLIMPSE OF FAIRAL WILDLIFE, SUCH AS I COULD EAT EAT, RACCOONS, RABBITS, SQUIRRELS, AND RATHER TORTOISES THAT GO WITH THE STREAM. THE VALUABLE AND THEY INCREASE, SUCH AS HICKORY, MAPLE, SWEET GUM, BIRCH, AND SPRUCE, AND PINE AROUND. AND WE ARE SURROUNDED BY AWESOME BEAUTY. AND THE SWEET GUMS, AND MAPLES WITH DESID WITH US SOIL AND, CHANGES BRIGHT SHADES OF YELLOW

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>> THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT THE PROPERTIES WOULD HAVE ON THE DWELLINGS, AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF TAX PAYING PROPERTY OWNERS OF HICKORY WOODS, AND BUTTER NUT, AND THOSE THAT WILL BE ACQUIRE THE NEW CONSTRUCT, AJUNK TO THE PRESENTLY OWNED AND OCCUPIED EXISTING DWELLINGS.

>> SIR, YOUR TIME IS UPDJUNCT T PRESENTLY OWNED AND OCCUPIED

EXISTING DWELLINGS. >> SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP

>>. I WOULD NOT ELABORATE ON THESE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS. ON CLOSING, I IMPLORE, AND BEG THE ATTENTION OF THIS AUGUST BODY, THE HONORED MEMBERS OF THIS AUBURN PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE AN ETHICAL JUST AND FAIR NOT LET POWER OR INFLUENCE SWAY THEIR DECISION, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR KIND CONCENTRATION.

>> YOUR TIME IS UPP, SIR. >> MY TIME IS UP?

>> YES, SIR. ONE JUST PLEA, NOT AN INSERTION

>> PERHAPS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE A PARK, WHICH IS CALLED THE DINIUS, PARK, ABUTTING THIS LAND.

>> PLEASE ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

>> MR. REDD, MAKE A DONATION OF THIS PROPERTY TO THE CITY, AND WE WILL DIRECT A MONUMENT IN HIS HONOR IF HE DOES THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> [APPLAUSE].

>>. MY NAME IS LESSLY CARTER AND I LIVE AT 311 BUD, TERNUD, I COME TOGETHER YOU WITH A LETTER THAT IS THAT IS OUT OF STATE AND ASKED IF I WOULD READ THIS FOR THE COMMISSION

>> IT'S DATED THE 11 OF JULY. TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CURRENTLY OUT OF STATE MY WIFE AND I WERE INFORMED BY NEIGHBORS THAT OUR CURRENT HOME 315 BUTTERNUT WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE ON BREES, AND INADDRESS TO THE PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY

HOUSING PROJECT >> WE WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS WEEKING'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

WE HAVE MANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS PROPOSAL THAT WE CAN NOT FIND

ANY POSTED MEETINGS >> AND WE ASK FOR POSTPONEMENT UNTIL ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS CAN BE EXPLORED

>>, THEY ARE KNOWN AS BUDDY AND NO I FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME

FORWARD? >> MY NAME IS KAREN, ■I LIVE AT

311 BUTTER NUT DRIVE. >> HEARING FROM MY NEIGHBORS.

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>> ATTED KIND OF FUNNY THAT VICTOR AND I HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE WHEN I WAS DIVORCED LOOKING FOR MY FIRST VERY OWN

HOME. >> I LOOKED AT SEVERAL OTHERS, AND SAID ME BACK TO BUTTERNUT DRIVE

>> WE THINK OF THEM WE HAVE DOWNTRODDEN HOMES, THAT ARE IN NEED OF REPAIR, AND WE HAVE NEITHER NEITHER.

THIS IS A FROM EFFECT LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I AM WORRIED THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SO MANY PEOPLE ABOUT HOW GREAT IT IS, AND CLOSE TO SHOPPING, AND WORSHIP CENTERS AND GAS STATIONS, IT IS LETTING THE SECRET OUT.

IT IS THIS PERFECT LITTLE SECLUDED NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT OFF OF GLENN AVENUE, CLOSE TO EVERYTHING.

I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT NOT SPEAKING TODAY SIMPLY BECAUSE I AM OKAY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I WORK FROM HOME.

>> MY KIDS ARE GROWN, WITHIN THREE YEARS, I WILL BE AN EMPTINESSTER, AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO LOSE AS FAR AS THE SAFETY OF MY KIDS. I AM RIGHT OFF OF HICKORY WOODS

DRIVE. >> BUT MY KIDS DID GET TO GROW UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I REMEMBER HOW MUCH THEY LOVED RUNNING THROUGH THE WOODS, RUNNING THROUGH THE CREEK, RUNNING OVER TO IVY LANE WHERE THEY HAD FRIENDS.

THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT I GOT TO DO WHEN I WAS A KID, RUN AROUND IN THE WOOD, AND PLAY AND HAVE FREE ROAM.

THERE'S NOT MANY MANY NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE KIDS CAN DO THAT ANY MORE. CERTAINLY NOT IN AUBURN, AND EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED AND WE HAVE THESE BUSY BUSY ROADS, AND I WANT MY NEIGHBOR'S KIDS TO BE ABLE TO GROW UP IN A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THEIR KIDS RUN THROUGH THE WOOD, AND RUN THROUGH THE STREAM, AND SEE A BUNNY ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND RESCUE THE TURTLE THAT'S CROSSING THE ROAD.

AND SEE THE BIRD, THE FALCONS, THE HAWKS.

IT'S JUST A GREAT LITTLE PLACE >> AND I HONESTLY DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO DISRUPT IT. THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS REALLY MORE OF A STUDENT POPULATION, AND IT DOES TIE-IN MUCH BETTER WITH KENT DRIVE.

AND EVEN IF MR. REDD DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO HIS PLANS AT ALL, HE COULD SIMPLY SWAP FROM FACE ONE, TO PHASE FOUR, AND START WITH THE CUT IN THERE, AND NEVER CONNECT TO BUTTERNUT, AND HICKORY WOODS AT ALL. THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND I WOULD ASK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION GIVE US TIME TO LOOK REALLY INTO WHAT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT IMPACTS WOULD BE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MR. REDD WOULD HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT MIGHT WORK BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN. ANYONE ELSE?

>> I WILL YOU HAVE AT THE JUNCTION OF HICKORY AND

BUTTERNUT. >> YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, YOU

CAN DO THAT LATER. >> MY NAME IS MARY ABRAHAM, AND WE LIVE AT 338 HICKORY WOODS DRIVE.

AND RIGHT AT THE JUNCTION OF BUTT BUTTERNUT, AND HICKORY WOODS. THIS HAS BEEN A NIGHTMARE EVER

SINCE I HEARD THIS WHOLE THING >> NOT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL IT'S BEEN A NIGHTMARE WHEN I THINK OF IT.

I HAVE THREE CHILDREN, A THEY GLEE GREW UP HERE AND THEY PLAYED IN THE BACK YARDS. THERE'S ALL KIND OF ANIMALS, FOXES AND DEERING, AND WHAT BOTHERS ME SO MUCH, IS THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A FRONT YARD. AND NOW WITH THE PROPOSED CONNECTION OF HICKORY WOODS TO KENT DRIVE WHICH WILL LEAD TO USE UNIVERSITY. OUR FRONT YARD IS JUST GONE

>> THOSE HOUSES WILL BE ABUTTING RIGHT AT OUR BACKYARD, AND I TRIED TO DO THE MATH WITH HOW CLOSE IT WILL BE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY CLOSE, RIGHT IN THE WETLANDS, AND I KNOW HOW MUCH THEY ARE TRYING NOT TO CUT DOWN TREES, THEY WILL HAVE TO CUT A LOT, AND EVENTUALLY WE'VE HAD TREES FALL DOWN, AND WE HAD SOME FALL ON OUR ROOF AND HAD TO HAVE THEM CUTOFF.

EVEN THOUGH MR. HALEY SAID THEY WILL NOT DISTURB THE LANDSCAPE A LOT IS GOING TO BE DISTURBED, AND I AM THINKING MY YOUNGEST IS STILL WITH US, EVENTUALLY, MAYBE WE WILL SELL THE HOUSE, AND I

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SO I WOULD JUST REALLY LIKE -- I DON'T WANT ONE MONTH DELAY, I DON'T WANT SIX MONTHS TLACHLT OF I JUST DON'T WANT THAT STREET TO BE BROKEN UP. EVEN SIX YEARS FROM NOW, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WE WILL DISTURB THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IF WE PUT THAT STREET DOWN THERE, AND THOSE HOUSES BACK THERE.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE DANTE'S PLAN, IF WE COULD GET A BUFFER RIGHT BEHIND OUR HOMES. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> PLEASE SIGN IN.

>> ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU ALL. >> ARE

>> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I AM ALISON, AND MY ADDRESS IS 375 BUTTERNUT, I DON'T WANT ANOTHER ROAD TO BE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE SOME PEOPLE RIDE BIKES, AND SOME RIDE SCOOTERS AND SOME PEOPLE ROLLER SKATE, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO STOP, AND ALL OF THE TRAFFIC. WE WALK OUR DOGS, AND LIKE WHEN THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION OF -- LIKE IF THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION, OR IF THEY MAKE ANOTHER ROAD THERE, IT'S LIKE ALL THE ANIMALS WOULD BE KICKED OUT OF THEIR HOMES.

AND WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE THE ANIMALS HAVE TO PACK UP AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN FOR THE ANIMALS, AND THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND A LOT OF JUST -- WE HAVE FUN ACTIVITIES HERE.

WE DO LOT OF FUN THINGS, WE HAVE GREAT BACK YARDS, GREAT ANIMALS, GREAT FRONT YARDS. WE HAVE GREAT HOUSES.

WE HAVE GREAT FAMILIES, ALL DIFFERENT SIZES, AND WE REALLY DON'T WANT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO JUST LIKE HAVE ANOTHER ROAD INSIDE OF IT. I AM DONE.

>> THANK YOU. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN. OH, SORRY

>> MY NAME IS HEREISION, AND I LIVE ON THREE CERTAIN 5 BUTTERNUT DRIVE. SO OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS I'VE BEEN WALKING LOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S BEEN A FUN PEACEFUL THING FOR ME TO DO OF THE AND IF THEY TOOK THE DEAD END, AND THEY MADE A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD OUT OF IT.

I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE UNSAFE TO WALK, AND FOR OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO WALK, AND RIDE BIKES, AND THINGS LIKES LIKE THAT, IT I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE MORE UNSAFE FOR THEM, AND IT WOULDN'T BE AS PEACEFUL, AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE THE BEST THING, AND I AM SUPPORT OF MR. PETER'S PLAN, AND JUST FOR A MORE PARTICULAR FULL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU. >> [APPLAUSE].

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, ITS A GREAT TO BE HERE MY NAME IS ABRAHAM GEORGE, I WILL HAVE AT 338 HICKORY WOODS DRIVE.

MY WIFE IS MYRIAM, THEY ARE THREE CHILDREN, AND THE LAST ONE IS ABOUT TO GRADUATE FROM AUBURN UNIVERSITY.

I STARTED MY LEAF HERE IN AUBURN IN 2000.

I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE, LIKE MANY OTHERS, AFTER SEEING MANY OTHER HOUSES. WHEN WE SAW THE SKETCH IN THE MALL, WE JUST WITHOUT EVEN HAVING THAT -- WE IMMEDIATELY SAID THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

AND SO THE ARCTIC WAS LIVING NEXT TO US, WHERE MS. THAN LIVES

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>> THANK YOU. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC -- SORRY. I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE JUST

OPENING IT. >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS CARRIE, AND MY ADDRESS IS 375 BUTTERNUT, I AM FIRST OFF IN SUPPORT OF MR. PETER'S PLAN, AND I DO ASK FOR THE POSTPONEMENT OF THIS DECISION. WE LOVE OUR QUAINT QUIRKY NEIGHBORHOOD. MY FAMILY AND I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 11 YEARS, AND WE ARE RAISING OUR TWO KIDS THERE NOW.

WE HAVE A DOG, WE WALK OUR DOG THERE, AND OUR KIDS WALK, SCOOTER, BIKE, SO WE WOULD REALLY HATE TO SEE THE EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD -- THAT THIS EXTENSION WOULD BRING IF THERE'S A CUT THROUGH, AND MR. PETER'S PLAN, I FEEL LIKE WOULD BE A SOLUTION TO THIS, SO WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR THE POSTPONEMENT OF

THIS DECISION, AND THANK YOU. >> SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. REPRESENTATIVES, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S PROBABLY SOME QUESTIONS. THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK.

BRETT BASKIN WITH THE FORESIGHT GROUP.

I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT. SO I AM GOING TO PULL A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL PRELIMINARY PLAT SUBMITTED ON THIS PROPERTY MANY

MEANS AGO >> AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED AS MULTIPLE PHASES.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHAT YEAR THAT WAS?

>> I THINK IT'S 1985. >> SO THAT TOP PLAT IS THE ORIGINAL PLAT, THE ORIGINAL PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY BACK IN 1985.

YOU SEEK THE RED OUTLINE IS THE PREVIOUS PHASE THAT HAS BEEN BEEN DEVELOPED WHILE THOSE CUL DU SACS ARE CONNECTED AS A LOOP ROAD IN THAT EXISTING CONDITION. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT THE BLUE SIDE, WHICH IS THE PHASE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE, WE ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING BACK IN 1985 WHEN THIS SUBDIVISION WAS ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED. ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THAT PLAN IS, AND WHAT OUR PLAN IS WE ARE A LOT LESS DENSE.

WE ARE PROVIDING BIGGER LOTS. WE ARE PROVIDING LESS DENSITY.

WHILE THIS IS STUBBED IS TO THE EAST HERE, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT GRADE CHANGE AND PROPERTY THAT WAY.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT ABOUT PRESERVING VEGETATION AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE ANIMALS, AND STREAMS AND WETLAND, AND ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THE GOOD THING THAT IS THAT IN THE CITY OF AUBURN THE LOCAL ORDINANCES HERE PROTECT THE WETLANDS AND STREAMS, AND BUFFERING THOSE THINGS, AND THOSE THINGS ARE REGULATED. AND SO MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE STAYING THERE

>> WE ARE NOT PLANNING ON DISTURBING A LOT OF THOSE AREAS.

CITY REQUIRES US TO GET THOSE DELINEATED YOU AND SHOWN.

THE ACCESS TO KENT DRIVE, WE WERE SHOWING, A WHAT HEAVY RAIN

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>> CURRENTLY THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT ABUT KENT DRIVE IMMEDIATELY U AND THE PROPERTY SEPARATING THE ACCESS FROM HERE TO KENT DRIVE IS. GOING THROUGH HE KENT DRIVE.

WE WERE SHOWING THAT AS A ' AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN WE GET TO THAT PHASE, THERE MAY BE A CUL DU SAC, AND A CUT THROUGH.

THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD BE A CUT THROUGH FOR GAME DAY TRAFFIC, AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, I DON'T THINK IS REALLY VIABLE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.

THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY OF BIKING AND SCOOTERING, AND ROLLER BLADING AND WALKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED IT WAS BACK BEFORE WE HAD SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRED LIGHTED STREETS, AND SIDEWALKS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO IN THIS NEW SECTION, THEY WILL HAVE A -- THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WALK ON SIDEWALKS, WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT BE IN THE STREETS, BUT BE IN SIDEWALKS, AND BE PROTECTED AS AN ADDITIONAL MEASURE FOR SAFETY.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

AND WE ARE IN THE PRELIMINARY PHASE AND WORKING THROUGH THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THERE'S NOT MANY TIMES THAT I AM ABLE TO STAND UP HERE AND SAY THAT HEY MY PLAT MEETS THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, MY PLAT MEETS THE FUTURE LAND USE REQUIREMENTS. MY PLAN IS LESS DENSE THAN THE ORIGINAL PLAN, AND THAT WE PLAN ON, AS I SAID, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AS BEST HE CAN, AND WE WILL TRY TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF IMPACT TO DISTURBANCE AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. BUT I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARM IS PART OF WHAT IS GOING TO HELP SELL THESE LOTS, AND I FIGURE THAT THE HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILD IN HERE, ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE IN CHARACTER WITH WHAT THE EXISTING CHARACTER IS THAN TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO SOME OTHER DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPE.

I THINK THAT PRESERVING THE TREES, AND THE CHRIS TRICKS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS IMPORTANT TO THE DEVELOPMENT, AND I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL HERE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

ARE THESE GOING TO BE -- THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT YOU

HAVE PLANNED HERE, RIGHT? >> UM-HMM.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE PRICE OF THOSE LOTS IS GOING TO BE,

JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY? >>.

I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE AROUND $100,000.

>> THEY ARE GOING TO BE TURNED INTO STUDENT HOUSING AT SOME

POINT? >> NO.

>> I DIDN'T THINK SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I

WASN'T RIGHT BALLPARK. >> THE CITY HAS ORDINANCES PROTECTING THESE HOUSE US. THEY WILL HAVE TO BE BUILT AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THE WHOLE GET UP AS A TRUE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. WHO BUYS, AND LIVES IN THAT HOUSE, THAN WHO CAN BUY AND LIVE IN THE HOUSE, IN THE CURRENT

NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. >> BUT IT'S A ZONED A CDD, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY DDH, IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOW BIG THE BUFFER IS AROUND THE CURRENT -- LIKE WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY, BUFFER ON THE SIDES OF YOUR PLAT? IS THERE ONE?

>> NO, IT'S RESIDENTIAL, AGAINST RESIDENTIAL

>> THERE WON'T BE ANY REQUIRED PERIMETER BUFFER STRIPS HERE

>> MAYBE IN THE FUTURE PHASE, TO THE FAIREST, WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING VACANT LAND OR COMMERCIAL, WOULDN'T THERE BE A

BUFFER UP AGAINST THE -- >> IT'S NOT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL

>> IF THERE WILL BE NO BUFFER >> SO REALLY THERE'S NO REQUIRED

BUFFERS. >> THE SECOND QUESTION THOUGH, THE WETLAND IMPACT AND STREAM ARE REVIEWED AT DRT, IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? YES, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE CITY'S PROCESS.

>> QUESTION ABOUT THE STREET LEVEL UPGRADE

>> DOES ADDING 47 HOMES CHANGE LIKE FROM A REGULAR RESIDENTIAL LOCAL STREET TO ANY OTHER CATEGORY THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY?

>> IT WOULD NOT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE A LITTLE SOMETHING BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS MAKE A DECISION. OUR AUTHORITY IS LIMITED TO CONFIRMING THAT THE PLAT MEETS OR EXCEEDS SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS CODIFIED BY THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS.

SO SO THIS IS NOT DISCRETIONARY AND

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SO THAT'S WHY ANY DELAY WE MUST ACT ON IT NOW.

RATHER THAN PUT TO THE NEXT MEETING EVEN IF WE WANTED TO

>>, IT'S OBVIOUS THE PROVIDE THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S WONDERFUL. IT'S OBVIOUS.

I DROVE THROUGH IT. AGAIN, I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT I DROVE THROUGH IT AGAIN THIS WEEK.

IT IS QUIRKY AND DIFFERENT AND YES YOU USE THE STREET AS A RECREATIONAL FACILITY, AS OPPOSED TO A PART OF A TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, AND YES, THAT MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT GOING TO MAKE -- IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE, THE NEW SUBDIVISION THAN THEIRS, THE STUBBOUT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE HICKORY HILL WAS PLATTED. THE STUBOUT HAS BEEN THERE.

WE REQUIRE THE STUBOUT, SO THERE'S NO DISPUTE AS TO WHAT THE STUB OOUT IS SUPPOSED TO BE. THE STUB OUTSHOULD BE EXPECT THAT HAD THAT ROAD WOULD BE EXPECTED TO MAKE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST.

THE SECOND THING THAT THE CD CDD, ZONE HAS BEEN ON THAT PROPERTY IN QUESTION, SINCE 1985.

SO THAT SHOULDN'T BE A SURPRISE. SO THIS DEVELOPMENT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, OR THIS SUBDIVISION PLAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR, BOTH OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS UNDER ZONING ORDINANCE, AND IT, TO ME, IS NOT GOING TO HAVE THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECT THAT PEOPLE THINK THAT IT HAS.

CONNECTIVITY IS GOOD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

WHAT IF WE HAD THE ONE INTERSECTION THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION, A MAJOR WRECK, TIES THAT UP AND SOMEBODY HAS A HEART ATTACK ON BUTTERNUT? YOU'VE GOT TO WAIT UNTIL THEY CLEAR IT UP. IF WE EVENTUALLY GET A CONNECTION IN AND OUT, YOU WOULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE ACCESS.

IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE ON BREES, AND INGRESS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

PUBLIC STREETS ARE FOR THE PUBLIC, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S MY COMMENT NOW.

I WON'T MAKE A MOTION ANYBODY ELSE HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

>> WILL I WILL ECHO MOST OF WHAT YOU SAID AND I DO WANT TO COMMEND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING UNLIKE YOU GUYS DID AND EVERYTHING. I THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT THING.

I THINK THAT PROCEDURALLY OUR HANDS ARE TIED ON SOME OF THIS, BECAUSE BASICALLY WE ARE LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT THE PLAT MEETS THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR.

WE CAN'T TABLE IT UNILATERALLY AND WE ALSO CAN'T CHANGE THE PLAT UP HERE. BUT THE APPLICANT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO HOPEFULLY SOME THINGS MIGHT BE MODIFIED HERE AND THERE, WHAT HAVE YOU. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN

DO FROM HERE. >> I JUST WOULD ADD ONE OTHER THING, AND THAT IS TALKING, JUST ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF ZONING ITSELF. ZONING CREATES TWO GUARD RAILS

>> ONE IT CREATES A GUARD RAIL FOR THE PERSON WHO'S THE DEVELOPER, THAT IS IT SAYS WHAT TYPE OF APPLICATIONS ARE NOT ALLOWED. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT IS NOT COMING IN TRYING TO PUT IN A MULTIFAMILY DWELLING, MULTIBIG STUDENT DEVELOPMENT.

HE'S ALSO NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT'S COMMERCIAL.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE'S GOING TO THE LOW END OF THE LAND USE HERE. HE'S PUTTING IN SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS WHEN HE COULD PUT IN DUPLEXES.

SO YOU NEED TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS APPLICANT HAS ALSO MET THOSE GUIDELINES.

THE OTHER GUARD RAIL IS FOR YOU GUYS

>> THAT IS WHAT IT WORKS THE OTHER WAY

>> AS LONG AS THIS APPLICANT HAS MET THE GUIDELINES, IT ALSO CREATES A BARRIER AGAINST YOU SAYING NO.

BECAUSE IT SAYS THIS GUY HAS MET ALL OF THE GUIDELINES AND SO THEREFORE, THIS BODY IS BY LAW ACTUALLY OBLIGED TO SAY YES TO HIS APPLICATION. SO THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS.

IT'S ABOUT -- IT'S NOT JUST THAT NEIGHBORS CAN COME IN AND SAY

NOT IN MY BACKYARD >> WHEN IT'S BEEN THIS WAY FOR A

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IT PROTECTION YOU FROM THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT PROTECTS THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE CERTAINTY THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO INVEST IN A LAND FOR 35 YEARS; IS THAT HOW LONG?

>> 31. 31 YEARS, PAY THE TAXES ON IT, AND DO EVERYTHING ELSE TO WAIT FOR THE RIGHT TIME WHEN IT'S HE CAN NOONCALLY VIABLE FOR IT TO BE DEVELOPED.

AND FINALLY, JUST ON MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION, I DO NOT -- I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS INFILL, THAT IS TAKING THESE AREAS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DEVELOPED IN THE CITY OF AUBSZ AND DEVELOP THEM. WHY? IT'S MORE EFFICIENT FOR OUR TAXPAYERS

>> ALL OF THE SERVICES ARE THERE READY TO BE USED.

ALL OF THE SERVICES ARE THERE READY TO BE ACCESSED.

IT'S EASIER FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS, SCHOOL DISTRICTS

AND EASIER FOR EVERYTHING ELSE >> THESE TYPES OF WOODED AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY OR DESIGNATED -- EXCUSE

ME. >> EXCUSE ME.

>> OR DESIGNATED AS GREEN SPACE HERE IN THE CITY OF AUBURN.

>> WHAT HAPPENED TO AUBURN AS

>> IT STILL IS. >> I'M SORRY, I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT. I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REALIZE THAT THIS LAND USE IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S EXPECTED.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> COMMISSIONERS I NEED A

MOTION. >> IS THERE ANY WAY TO SAY

SOMETHING ELSE? >> NO

>> I AM SORRY, THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED.

>> I MOVE THAT THE CASE NUMBER 2022-0 LEARN, HICKORY WOODS ESTATE SECOND EDITION, APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT IS THE STAFF HAS APPLIED IN OUR STAFF REPORT.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED?

>> THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME OUT HERE TONIGHT, AND VOICE YOUR OPINIONS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO STAY.

>> THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> AND WE READ EVERYONE OF THOSE E-MAILS. WE DID

>> EVERYONE. >> KATIE, IF YOU WILL WAIT JUST

[7. Preliminary Plat – Whatley Farms – PUBLIC HEARING PP-2022-012]

BUT IT IS INSIDE OF OUR PLANNING JURISDICTION.

IT IS YOU OUTSIDE THE WATERSHED. PROPERTIED IS LOCATED ON LEE ROAD, 112, AND AT THE TERM ENNIS OF LEE ROAD 48.

THE. THE PROPOSAL IS TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY OFF OF 112, AND TO CONSTRUCT ABILITY BE OF A CUL DU

SAC HERE >> HERE'S AN ENLARGED INSET FOR THE REST OF THE LOTS. THE LOTS DO RANGE IN SIZE FROM 14 ACRES TO JUST OVER 35. THE PLAT MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE

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>> ARE THERE ANY CONDITIONS OF NOTE?

>> NO. THANK YOU IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

THIS DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

I WILL OPEN THAT NOW. ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON

THIS ITEM? >>.

I LIVE AT 289 LEE ROAD, 48. WHICH IS THE BULB THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED, IT DIVIDES INTO THREE OF THE PROPOSED SUBDIVIDED LOTS.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH SUBDIVIDING, IS 180

ACRES. >> IT IS

>>; IS THAT RIGHT. WHAT IS THE AVERAGE SOUTH CAROLINA OF THE SUBDIVIDED LOT. 13 TO 35 ACRES

>> WHAT ACCESS IS COMING OFF OF 112 INTO HOW MANY OF THE LOTS?

I GUESS MY QUESTION-. >> IT LOOKS LIKE TWO

>> HOW ARE WE ACCESSING THE BACK TWO, IF YOU'VE GOT CERTAIN LOTS, I DIDN'T SEE THE ACCESS TO THE BACK TWO LOTS.

>> 48. >> THEY CAN ONLY ACCESS THREE

LOTS. >> ACCESS IS 7, 6, 5, 4, AND 3.

>> MAYBE I AM CONFUSED ON. >> RIGHT HERE, RIGHT THERE,

RIGHT HERE, AND HERE ARE TWO. >> ARE THERE ANY PLANS IN THE FUTURE FOR MULTI-- FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PLANS ON THIS

PROPERTY. >> NO, SIR, THIS IS ALL THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. AND SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT

IT'S ZONED. >> IT'S IN THE COUNTY.

SO THERE IS NO ZONING. >> YOU ARE RIGHT, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> PLEASE SIGN IN.

>> ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

>> YES. >> OF MY NAME IS STARLING GRISHAM, I LIVE AT 26842, MAY ROAD.

WE ARE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, BUT WE ARE MAYBE TWO MILES CLOSE TO THE CITY OF AUBURN, FIVE MILES CLOSE TO OPALIKA CITY LIMITS.

SO WE ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. AREA THAT WE LIVE IN WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED JIMMY ACRES, AND IT WAS SET UP BY A LOCAL

AUBURN RESIDENT COLCLAUDE >> THE HOUSE THAT I LIVE IN WAS THE HOUSE LOCATED ON THE GROCERY STORE, ON KROGER'S GROCERY STORE LOCATED, AND I CAN'T THINK OF WHAT THE STREET IS, YOUR KROGER'S IS. BUT THE HOUSE WAS LOCATED THERE.

IT WAS -- THAT WAS NATIONALS LAND.FARM LAND.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WAS DEVELOPED

>> AND OUR HOUSE WAS MOVED OUT THERE ORIGINALLY TO BEGIN TO SET UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSISTS OF ABOUT 15 HOUSES. MOST OF US ARE RETIREES WHO WANTED THE CONVENIENCES OF THE CITY, BUT ALSO TO LIVE OUT AWAY FROM THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHY MOST OF US ARE LOCATED THERE. OUR MAIN CONCERN IS, IS WHAT DAVIS BROUGHT UP. THE LITTLE SECTION GOING INTO CHIMNEY ACRES IS ONE IN, AND ONE WAY OUT WHICH IS 48.

48 GOES IN, AND IT TAKES A LITTLE LEFT HAND TURN, IT'S A DEAD END, AND IT HAS 1, 2, 3 HOUSES LOCATED ON IT.

SO WHAT THIS WOULD BE DOING IS OPENING UP THAT END AND GIVING ACCESS TO APPROXIMATELY CERTAIN LOTS THAT CAN BE SUBDIVIDE INTO FOUR MORE LOTS AND SO WE START ADDING UP.

HOW MANY CARS IS THAT THAT'S COMING OUT OF THAT AREA WHERE

THERE PREVIOUSLY WAS NO ACCESS >> WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE INVOLVED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, IS THERE NOT ANOTHER ACCESS WAY TO NOT PUT THIS RIGHT IN THIS LITTLE NARROW AREA, TO ADD SO MANY LOTS -- SO MUCH TRAFFIC.

IT TOOK US 20 YEARS TO GET A ROAD PAVED BOY THE COUNTY.

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>> THANK YOU. >> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN. IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT?

>> I JUST HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. MY CONCERN, TRUE CONCERN WAS NOT TO END UP WITH ANOTHER WHAT T THELY WHATLEY, FARM OFF OF LEE ROAD 112. IT'S A NONSUBDIVIDED PLAT THAT HAS BEEN MULTIHOUSES THAT ARE RENTALS ON IT

>> BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEFORE THE COMMITTEE NOW IS SIMPLY THE SUBDIVISION OF THIS 100

>> IS THERE ANYTHING BEFORE THE COMMISSION, OR IS IT PROPER TO BE BEFORE THE COMMISSION, FLIGHT.

IS IT SINGLE FAMILY, IS IT MULTIPLE FAMILY, IS IT RENTALS ALLOWED? I AM REALLY MAKING INQUIRY.

>> I HAVE TO ASK STAFF THAT QUESTION, SINCE IT'S IN THE

COUNTY SINCE -- >> SINCE THIS IS IN THE COUNTY AND THERE IS NO ZONING, WE HAVE SUBDIVISION AUTHORITY BUT WE DO

NOT HAVE LAND USE AUTHORITY. >> SO IT'S NOT IN SUBJECT TO THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

>> OTHER THAN SUBDIVISION. NOT USE REGULATIONS

>> THANK YOU. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. REPRESENTATIVE.

>>N'T BLAKE RICE WITH BARRENSON ENGINEERING

>> IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A PIECE OF FAMILY PROPERTY, AND THERE ARE SEVEN HEIRS TO THIS PROPERTY, AND THEY ARE SUBDIVIDING FOR HOPEFULLY EHAD HE THEIR HOPE IS THAT THE SEVEN HEIRS, MAY BUILD CERTAIN HOUSES.

YOU MAY NOT SEE ANYTHING OUT THERE, AND YOU MAY NOT SEE ANYTHING, BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT IS THE INTENT OF THAT SUBDIVISION

PLAT >> IS THERE ANYTHING TO DO AT THE END OF ROAD 48, A CUL DU SAC THAT WOULD BE NEEDED?

>> IN ORDER TO CREATE ENOUGH FRONTAGE FOR THOSE FIVE LOTS TO TAKINGSESS AT THE END OF 48, AN ACTUAL CUL DU SAC WILL HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED DIRECTLY AT THE END OF 48 TO COUNTY STANDARDS SO

THAT THESE LOTS CAN TAKINGSESS. >> THAT CURRENTLY IN PLAN THOUGH

>> YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU ANY QUESTIONS? FOR THE APPLICANT, OR A

REPRESENTATIVE? >> I THINK THAT -- COMMISSIONERS, THOUGHTS, COMMENTS MOTIONS?

. >> WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO COMPLEMENT BARRETT-SIMPSO, INC. FOR FIGURING OUT THE WAYS TO GET IT ALL DIVIDED. THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING POLLS ON THESE LOTS. BUT THAT BEING SAID.

IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA OF OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND THEREFORE I WOULD RECOMMEND OUR THAT WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

IT. >> MOTION.

>> AND SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[8. Preliminary Plat – Old Samford Pod 1 & Pod 4 – PUBLIC HEARING PP-2022-013]

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED?

>> NEXT ITEM IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT.

AND THIS IS FOR THE OLD SANFORD PROPERTY

>> CAN YOU HOLD ON ONE SECOND, SO SORRY.

>> IF YOU COULD TAKE YOUR CONVERSATION PAST THE DOOR,

YOU'D APPRECIATE IT. >> OKAY, MS. ROSS.

[01:25:01]

>> ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR OLD SANFORD FOR PODS 1 AND 4.

THE TOTAL AREA OF THIS PORTION IS 129 ACRES.

THEY ARE PROPOSING -- PAUSE ONE MORE TIME, I'M SORRY.

EXCUSE ME, BLAKE, SIR -- SIR SIR.

>> EXCUSE ME >> >> OF THIRD TIME IS A CHARM OF CHARLES, 188 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, AND EIGHT OPEN SPACE LOTS.

DENSITY IS APPROXIMATELY 1.45 DWELLING UNITS AN AMOUNT ACRE, WHICH IS LESS THAN WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS APPROVED, THE PLATS SAY POD 1 AND POD 2.

BUT IT'S ACTUALLY POD 1 AND 4. BOTH OF THOSE HAVE CONNECTIVITY

>> POD FOUR CONNECTS TO THE EXTENSION OF CAMDEN RIDGE, AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ENTRANCE OFF OF MRS. JAMES'S ROAD INTO POD 1. HAD.

THIS CONNECT OR ROAD OFF OF MRS. JAMES, WILL EVENTUALLY TURN OFF INTO THE CENTER PART OF THE SUBDIVISION S AND THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE IS SHADOW BEND THAT RUNS INTO CAMDEN RIDGE, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S KENNASAW, THAT CONNECTS THEM BOTH.

WE DID RECEIVE A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS FOR INFORMATION.

THE PLAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, AND MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. >> ARE THERE ANY CONDITIONS OF

NOTE? >> NO JUST NOTATIONAL.

>> SORRY TO ASK THIS, BUT THIS IS A PDD?

>> YES, IT IS A PDD, AND IT IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT.

>> THIS DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING

>> I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THAT NOW, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE.

I SHALL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONERS. THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE.

>> I HAVE TO ADMIT, I LIKE THIS DENSITY HAS BEEN LOWERED.

I THINK THAT IT ADDRESSES PROBABLY THE NEEDS OF THE HOUSING MARKET RIGHT NOW. SO I SUPPORT IT.

>> IS THAT A MOTION? >> THAT'S A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO ACCEPT IT WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS

>> DID YOU SECOND MARCUS? >> SURE I SECOND IT.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

[9. Annexation – Glenwood Farm, Phase 2 AX-2022-011]

>> THIS IS AN ANNEXATION FOR 22.87 ACRES INTO CITY LIMITS.

THIS IS OFF OF SOCIETY HILL. LEE ROAD 54.

IT IS RIGHT HERE. IT IS SOUTH OF MOORE'S MILL, AND WEST OF SIDIE, HILL. I SOCIETY HILL.

>> WILL AND IT WAS AND SECTION THE BY THE SAME PERSON.

THESE TWO WILL BE GLENWOOD, FARM, THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH ANNEXATION, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

[01:30:02]

CORRECTIONS. >> AS AN ANNEXATION, DID NOT

REQUIRE A FLING HEARING >> COMMISSIONERS.

>> TO GET ME ORIENTED >> THIS IS SOCIETY HILL.

THERE'S A CONVENIENCE STORE, OR AN OLD FILLING STATION.

>> THERE'S A POTTING SHED THERE. >> YES, SIR.

>> I WILL A MAKE A MOTION FOR ALL ACCEPTING ALL STAFF

[10. Preliminary Plat – Glenwood Farm, Phase 2 – PUBLIC HEARING PP-2022-014]

COMMENTS. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.

>> AYE. >> ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THANK YOU, HERE'S THAT PROPERTY AGAIN.

THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE PROPERTY THAT WAS JUST ANNEXED IN. IT WILL STAY RURAL.

IT IS FOR EIGHT LOTS. SEVEN OF WHICH WILL BE SEVEN

CONVENTIONAL FAMILY SUBDIVISION. >> THEY WILL HAVE A STREET TO BE

DEDICATED WHEN IT IS CONSTRUCTED >> ONE ADDITIONAL LOT THAT WAS NOT ANNEXED IN IS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ANNEXATION IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

THERE'S A 3.05 ACRE LOT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PLAT.

IT HAS AN EXISTING BUSINESS ON IT.

IT DOESN'T WANT TO BE ANNEXED IN, BUT IT IS PART OF THE PLAT.

>> WHICH ONE OF THOSE IS IT. >> LOT 15.

>> AND THAT IS THE ONE EXISTING LIEUTENANT THAT HAS BEEN THE BUSINESS, THE REST WILL BE THE CONVENTIONAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND IT DOES MEET OUR SIZE CRITERIA, AND ALL OTHER SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND THE SAME COMMENTS APPLY USE THE

ANNEXATION. >> THIS DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC

HEARING? >> BE IT DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC

HEARING, YES. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS ITEYE. TELL

>> SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING

>> COMMISSIONERS. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TO APPROVE TWO. I HAVE A MOTION.

>> AND A SECOND >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE

SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

MS. ROBINSON. THESE NEXT TWO ARE FOR THE CASH

[11. Preliminary Plat – Cash Property – PUBLIC HEARING PP-2022-015]

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE OPTIMAL BOUNDARY INSIDE

OF THE PLANNING JURISDICTION >> IT IS NEAR THE CITY LIMITS HERE. IT'S LOCATED ON LEE ROAD 72, AND I DID NOT -- I STAND CORRECTED, LOGAN DID SEND ME TWO E-MAILS FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES JUST FOR THE PLAT ITSELF, AND THEY HAD NO CONCERNS. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THE PROPERTY IS REMAINING IN THE COUNTY.

>> IT IS. >> THE AND CURB ALL ALONG THE

ROAD. >> YES. C

U >> ALL ALONG THE

ROAD. >> YES.

C ALL ALONG THE ROAD.

>> YES. U ALL ALONG THE

ROAD. >> YES.

T ALL ALONG THE ROAD.

>> YES. S ALL ALONG

THE ROAD. >> YES.

>> MR. RICE >> THIS DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC

HEARING >> I WILL OPEN THAT NOW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS ITEM.

>> WELCOME. >> MY NAME IS BILL BRUNER, I AM AT 6831, LEE ROAD 72. I AM A NEIGHBOR OF THAT CASH PROPERTY. MY QUESTION IS REALLY, PROBABLY MORE TO BARRETT-SIMPSON, INC. BUT WHEN WE JUST SAW THE PUBLIC NOTICE, AND THOUGHT WE WOULD COME HERE FOR SOME ANSWERS.

THAT WILL DIVIDE US AND THE CASH PROPERTY IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO MY QUESTION IS THERE'S A LOT OF WATERSHED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CREEK, ON OUR PROPERTY AND ON THEIR PROPERTY.

AND IT'S HARD TO TELL HERE >> BUT I THINK THAT ABOUT HALF OF EACH OF THOSE LOTS ARE GOING TO BACK UP INTO THE WATERSHED.

[01:35:03]

IT IS IN THE COUNTY, I KNOW THAT THE REGULATION ARE NOT THAT

GREAT >> SO I GUESS OUR CONCERN IS

WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE. >> WHAT'S GOING TO BE OUR

NEIGHBOR. >> YOU GUESS WHEN THEY PUT IN THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, IF EVERY DRIVEWAY IS COMING OFF THOSE ROADS, THERE'S A LOT OF DRIVEWAYS, AND THEN MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE THINGS LIKE SEWAGE, AND THINGS LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND POWER AND ALL OF THAT.

SO AGAIN, JUST SIMPLE QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE BARRETT-SIMPSON, INC.

CAN BE PROVIDE SOME ANSWERS TO >> WE WILL ASK HIM TO ANSWER ALL OF THOSE ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

>> THE THTHANK >> THE THTHHANK YOU.

. MIAMI THAT IS JAMES SEXTON, I LIVE AT 12265 LEE ROAD 188. YOU STAND IN MY COUCHEN, AND YOU STAIR AT THIS CORNER LOT. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT SOUTH CAROLINA THE HOUSES ARE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT A FEW OF THOSE LOTS, THAT'S A NATURAL SPRING, AND YOU HAVE TO BE SO FAR FROM A NATURAL SPRING, TO PUT A SEPTIC SYSTEM. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH ROOM FOR A HOME AND A SEPTIC SYSTEM, HOW IS THAT ALL GOING TO WORK? BECAUSE YOU GOT THAT, AND THEN A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HE ASKED.

IS THERE A GOING TO BE A GUIDELINE ON THE SIZE OF THE HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT YOU NEED TO BECAUSE IT'S A RURAL AREA.

THE MAIN CONCERN IS A SEWER SYSTEM IS EACH LOT GOING TO BE DIVIDED AND RAN SOMEWHERE ELSE, OR ARE THEY GOING TO DO SEPTIC TANKS, AND FILL LINES. IF YOU PUT A HOME ON A COUPLE OF THOSE. THE HOUSE WILL BE RIGHT THERE ON THE PROPERTY, CAN DOWNSLOPE GOING FROM THE POND.

YOU HAVE TO BE SO FAR AWAY FROM A NATURAL SPRING.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED.

>> BE WE WILL ASK. >> ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO ONE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

REPRESENTATIVE, DO YOU MIND ANSWERING SOME QUESTIONS?

>> BE THE NOT AT ALL. >>.

>>ANCHOR: DAN BLAKE RICE BARRETT-SIMPSON, INC.

THE TWO NEIGHBORS THAT JUST SPOKE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS, AND I THINK THAT I CAN ANSWER MOST OF THEM.

AS FAR AS THE LOTS THEMSELVES, THIS IS LIKE 140 SOME ODD ACRES OVER 20 LOTS THAT AVERAGES OUT SEVEN ACRES PER LOT.

THERE ARE SOME THAT GET DOWN AROUND THE THREE, BUT THEN I THINK THAT SOME THAT THERE'S ONE THAT'S 20 OR SO

>> MR. BRUNER, DID SPEAK ABOUT THE CREEK THROUGH THERE, AND THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT FLOOD PLAIN IN THIS AREA, AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT AS YOU MOVE SOUTH OF THE POND, THE EXISTING POND ON THE PROPERTY NEAR THE NORTHERN END, AFTER THAT, THESE LOTS ABUT THAT CREEK AND THEY GET A THOUSAND 1200, 1400 FEET DEEP, AND EACH ONE OF THEM DOWN TRUE THAT AREA IS 4 OR 5, 6, CERTAIN ACRES, MINIMUM, AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS CREATED LOTS.

THESE ARE ALL SEPTIC. I DID HEAR A QUESTION ABOUT SUE AND. THERE'S NO SEWAGE AVAILABLE IN THE AREA, AND WE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY AWAY FROM ANY WATER BODIES WITH SEPTIC STATE STANDARDS IS SOMETHING FROM AN ACTUAL WATER BODY IS 50 FEET. WE'VE GOT 12 AND 1300 FEET TO

WORK WITH HERE >> THESE ARE CUSTOM HOME LOTS

THAT'S WHAT I KNOW AT THIS POINT >> I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF HOME WOULD BE BUILT OR WHAT THE EXACT PRICE POINT IS

>> BUT YOU DON'T TAKE A PIECE OF PROPERTY LIKE THIS, AND PUT I'M TRACT I HAVE HOMES ON IT, ON SEVEN ACRES

>> WE ARE EXPECTING -- THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS, WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY SPACING, I AM EXPECTING AT LISA FEW SHARED DRIVEWAYS. SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THAT OUT WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

AND AS FAR AS -- I DID HEAR SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT ROADWAY

INFRASTRUCTURE >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE IS NO ROADWAY FRONTAGE STRUCTURE, THESE ARE EXISTING LOTS ON COUNTY ROADWAYS. OTHER THAN THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION

>> SO YOU DO THINK THAT YOU CAN WORK IT OUT SO THAT IT WOULD MEET THE COUNTY'S 250 FOOT SPACING ON THE COUNTY'S

REQUIREMENT ON KIRBY CUTS? >> THE YES.

>> COMMISSIONERS. >> THIS MEETS ALL OF THE

[01:40:06]

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL IN

FAVOR? >> AYE

>> ANY OPPOSED? >> NEXT.

[12. Final Plat – Cash Property FP-2022-010]

>> THE NEXT ONE IS THE FINAL PLAT FOR THE SAME AREA, CASH PROPERTY 148 ACRES. 20 LOTS.

>> WE DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE SAME CONDITIONS THAT IS

NOTED IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. >> THIS IS A FINAL PLAT AND DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, COMMISSIONERS, MAY I HAVE A

MOTION >> MOTION TO APPROVE 2022-OTHER ONE 0, WITH CONDITIONS. .

SECONDED. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND,

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE.

[13. Rezoning – 305 Harper Circle – PUBLIC HEARING RZ-2022-006]

>> ANY OPPOSED? NEXT.

>> YOU UP HERE TO CLOSE OUT THE AGENDA, AND THIS NEXT CASE IS A REQUEST FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR REZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 0.21 ACRES FROM DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT HOUSING TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 305 HARPER CIRCLE.

HERE'S AN AREAL OF THE SITE THAT SHOWS IT'S LOCATED ON A CUL DU SAC AT THE CORNER OF HARPER CIRCLE AND HARPER AVENUE.

PROXIMATE VARIETY OF ZONES IN THE AREA TO THE WEST IS MDRD, WHICH IS THE REQUESTED ZONE. DDH, CRDE, TO THE SOUTH.

THE PROPERTY, THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IT IS LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. WHICH DOES ALIGN WITH THE DDH, ZONE IN TERMS OF DENSITY. THE APPLICANT WISHES TO REZONE, IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS WHICH IS NOT A PERMITTED EYES IN THE DDH, ZONING DISTRICT.

STAFF DOES RECOMMEND DENIAL AS THE REQUEST REZONING TO MDRD, WOULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

>> AND THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR THIS ONE.

SO IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER

>> THE APPLICANT AND/OR REPRESENTATIVE HERE?

>> MY WEST, I LIVE AT 2384 COX ROAD.

I THINK THAT WE ARE THE ONLY ONES IN TOWN NOT TEARING DOWN HOUSES AND BUILDINGS. MY WIFE AND I OWNED THAT FOR NINE AND A HALF YEARS, OUR KIDS ARE ALL IN COLLEGE.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET ONLINE WITH THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND US THAT HAVE JUST REZONED, OR FIXING TO BUILD WHATEVER THEY ARE BUILDING AND I THINK THAT YOU SAID DENY, IT'S THE SAME ZONING THAT HE HAS ALREADY DONE THAT HE JUST WENT THROUGH.

SO I'D ASK YOU GUYS TO JUST CONSIDER THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO TEAR DOWN A BUILDING WE, JUERS TRYING TO GET ONLINE WITH THE AREA, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE STR'S, AND LEAVE THE LAND OPEN FOR OUR KIDS. THEY'VE ALL SCATTERED ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND WHEN THEY COME BACK, WE WOULD LIKE TO LET THEM STAY THERE. THAT'S REALLY OUR BIG PLAN WITH

THAT. >> ARE YOU PLANNING TO LIVE

THERE, YOURSELF. >> NO WE ARE NOT, WE LIVE ON COX ROAD. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

WE'VE ACTUALLY OWNED MULTIPLE HOUSES IN DOWNTOWN AUBURN.

WE HAVE 1 ON, RHINE, STREET, THAT WAS AN INVESTMENT FOR OUR KIDS TO GO GO TO SCHOOL, AND WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THEIR EDUCATION, AND THEY ARE SCATTERED ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO RENT IT OUT LONG TERMS DUE TO THE DAMAGE TO YOUR PROPERTIES, WE'VE EXPERIENCE IT HAD ALSO, AND WE WILL LEAVE IT OPEN SO OUR KIDS CAN COME BACK OR FAMILY, AND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE STR'S, POSSIBLY DOWN THE ROAD.

NONE OF THAT IS ACTUALLY IN CONCRETE.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET IT ONLINE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS BEHIND US SORRY, EVERYONE BEHIND US HAS PRETTY MUCH DONE THIS.

>> SO WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT

>> AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK UP FOR QUESTIONS.

>> DID HE HAVE A QUESTION? >> I WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT.

BUT I WILL WAIT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AGENDA ITEM PLEASE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO

COME FORWARD AND SPEAK. >> SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. YOUR COMMENT.

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY AROUND HIM IS IN THE RD, BUT EVERYTHING AROUND THIS LOT WITH THE

[01:45:04]

WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT. >> CAN I ASK STAFF A QUESTION? TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MDR'S, THAT WERE JUST REZONED;

IS THAT CORRECT? >> THE MDRD?

>> YEAH. >> THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST WAS REZONED I BELIEVE IN 2021. THE PROPERTY ACROSS SUMMER HILL FURTHER TO THE WEST WAS REZONED IN 20 YOU 19.

THEY WERE BOTH REZONED FROM RDD, WHEN WE DID THE WHOLE HARPER --

>> THAT WAS 2019. BUT THE ONES -- DIRECTLY TO THE

WEST WERE A SEPARATE REZONING. >> AND WHAT HAPPENED IS, IF I RECALL, THE LOT ON THE CORNER WAS IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE, AND THE PERSON WANTED TO TEAR IT DOWN, AND BUILD BACK.

BUT HE WANTED IT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN WAS ALLOWED UNDER THE -- WHAT WAS IT --

>> WE THINK THAT WE ARE ALL PAST THAT.

>> IS HE WHAT WE SAID IS THAT IF THIS IS THIS LOT MAY NEED IT, THEN LET'S EXAM UNTHE WHOLE AREA.

WE HELD THAT, IF I RECALL, AND DID NOT REZONE IT, UNTIL WE STUDIED AND RECOGNIZED THAT THE CONDITIONS SIMILAR WERE UP THE STREET, AND THAT'S WHY WE MADE THE LARGER THAN A ONE LOT SPOT REZONE. CORRECT

>> AND I BELIEVE IT'S ALSO TRUE, THAT THAT REZONING WAS CONSISTENT THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE.

>> WHEREAS THIS IS NOT. >> EVEN THOUGH IT BUTTS UP AGAINST IT. WHEN OF THERE'S ONLY SIX HOMES IN THAT LITTLE CUL DU SAC. I KNOW THAT WAS PART OF THE 20 YEAR STUDY AT ONE TIME THAT REELING AFFECTS THE SUBDIVISION BEHIND THAT. OUR JUSTLY OUR LITTLE CUL DU SAC IS FOCUSED MORE ON HARPER AND NOT THE SUBDIVISION BEHIND IT WHICH IS WHY THAT'S THE REASON THAT EVERYBODY IS REZONING THAT TO THE MDRD, AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY EFFECT ON REZONING

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME TO BRING THIS UP.

IF SOMEONE JUST LET THEIR HOME I DID LA

DELIPIDATE >>

>> WE CAN ONLY STITCH STICK WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE, AND BY THE SAME LOGIC, THE NEXT PERSON COULD COME IN ANSWERCHANGE IT, E WHOLE AREA WOULD BE ZONED DIFFERENT, AND IT WOULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN SO FOR THAT REASON I WOULD AGREE WITH CONFLICT WITH USE PLAN SO FOR THAT REASON I WOULD AGWAIVER WAIVER WE'VE STUDIED THE AREA A

LOT >> COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THERE'S TALK ABOUT NEGATIVE MOTIONS, HOW SHOULD WE MAKE THE MOTION. I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR CASE RZ2022-006, TO FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR RECOMMENDATION

FOR DENIAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> AYE. >> AND WE WILL STILL ADVERTISE FOR THE AUGUST 16TH MEETING. IT WILL BE FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR ULTIMATE DECISION.

[14. Conditional Use – Big Dan’s – PUBLIC HEARING CU-2022-030]

>> NEXT IS BIG KAHN'S CAR WASH, WHICH HAS REQUESTED TO BE

POSTPONED UNTIL AUGUST 11TH. >> HAS IT BEEN TO BZA.

>> NO IT HAS NOT. THEY POSTPONED THIS MONTH, AND IT WILL BE HEARD ON AUGUST 3RD FOR YOUR MEETING ON THE 11TH.

I NEED A MOTION TO POSTPONE A DATE CERTAIN.

>> SO MOVED >> SECOND

>> THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR?

[01:50:01]

>> AYE. >> THANK YOU.

[15. Conditional Use – Greystone Commercial Development – PUBLIC HEARING CU-2022-033]

THE PROPERTY IS IN THE HAD COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT. .

DEV DEVELOP.

WILL CONSIST OF OFFICE, A BANK DRIVE THROUGH BANK DRIVE THROUGH, AND SELF STORAGE FACILITY.

THE BANK HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, AND THE OFFICE DOES NOT REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL.

THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2018. AND A TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN CONDUCTED. ANY IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE USED, COMPLETED BY THE DEVELOPER. HERE IS A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE STORAGE FACILITY, THE BANK AND THE OFFICE.

SRJT HERE WE HAVE SOME ELEVATIONS

>> THIS IS FROM THE NORTH. VERY NICE.

>> NORTH ELEVATION, SOUTH ELEVATION.

>> EAST ON THE TOP, AND WEST ON THE BOTTOM.

>> AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS

>> I THINK THAT MAIN ONES, THE APPLICANT MAY WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE SELF STORAGE FACILITY WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THEY BE LIMITED FROM 7:00 A.M., TO

10:00 P.M. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> IT'S REALLY THE OWN ONE OF NOTE

>> I WILL JUST COMMENT ON THAT, THAT WE HAVE MET WITH THE APPLICANT, AND THE 7:00 A.M., TO WHATEVER YOU SAY, 11:00 P.M.

>> 10:00 P.M., THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT AS OF OUR LAST CONVERSATION; IS THAT CORRECT?

>> 11 WOULD BE GREAT. >> I MISSPOKE

>> NO, I AM MANY FINE. >> OPEN HEARING IS OPEN, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK

>> SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING

>> COMMISSIONERS. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 2022-033, TO FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.

>> FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. >> I'M SORRY, WITH CONDITIONS,

THANK YOU >> SECOND

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED?

>> QUICK QUESTION STAFF, THAT DOES THAT PRETTY WELL FILL UP, DEVELOP THAT SIDE OF SAMFOR THE RECORD

. >> ARE THAT FILLS IT UP WITH THE

INCOMPLETE PARCELS. >> NOTION UP IS WILL A REQUEST

[16. Conditional Use – Harper Avenue Triplex – PUBLIC HEARING Request: CU-2022-034]

HERE IS THE AREAL OF THE PROPERTY OFF OF HARPER AVENUE BETWEEN SUMMER HILL, AND DEAN, PROXIMATE OF THE LOCATION THE REQUEST DOES INCLUDE TWO WAIVERS.

ONE TO REDUCE THE EAST BUFFER YARD FROM 14 FEET TO TEN FEET.

AND THE SECOND TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING ON THE EAST AND WEST PROPERTY BOUNDARIES FROM 20 TRANCHES, PER 100 LINEAR

[01:55:03]

WITH CONDITIONS >> WE FEEL THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED AN ADEQUATE BUFFER YARD HERE, AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE WAIVERS AS WELL. THIS DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THAT NOW.

SEEING NO ONE NOW. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU EVER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE, THERE IS ONE HERE.

YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPTION IF YOU WANT TO DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME,

GREG, BOTH WAIVERS. >> I WANT TO NOTE ONE THING ON THIS APPLICANT. WE ARE ADJACENT TO WHAT IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT THIS ROAD IS ALL RENTAL PROPERTY.

THERE IS NO PERSONAL RESIDENCES NEXT DOOR HERE

>> WE ARE TOGETHER THIS FOR SLIDING HOUSE UP TO THE FRONT.

MOST OF THOSE HOMES ARE PUSHED BACK.

THEY ARE ALL BUILT IN THE 70S, AND WE ARE PUSHING THIS HOUSE UP, AND GOAL OF THESE BUFFER YARDS IS WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE A LOT OF THE SHARED TREES ALONG THE PROPERTY LINES AS WELL.

MOST OF THE SCREENING THAT WE ARE DOING IS SCREENING THEM FROM US, AND NOT US FROM THEM TYPE MENTALITY WITH THIS, BECAUSE MOST OF THE STUFF IN THERE IS PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE.

AND THIS IS JUST FOLLOWING THAT LINE OF REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, AND WHAT'S KIND OF TAKING PLACE ALONG ANDER, AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO GET THESE WAIVERS IS BECAUSE WE ARE KIND OF LIKE THE FIRST GUY IN.

ONCE PEOPLE START ABUTTING US, ALL OF THOSE BUFFER YARDS ARE GOING TO GO AWAY, AGAINST THOSE LIKE USE US.

SOLELY WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, NOT TRYING TO THINK THAT WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A SINGLE FAMILY TRUE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS

>> THESE HOUSES WERE PROBABLY BUILT IN THE 60S.

>> PROBABLY. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION THAT THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.

WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING ON MONDAY TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, ONE THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS WE ARE SUPPORTING THE WAIVER AND THE REDUCTIONS OF SOME OF THOSE BUFFERS.

BUT ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AS PRESENTED DOESN'T SHOW ANY TREES

>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT FOR TREES, AND WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY ADDING A CONDITION THAT SINCE WE ARE REDUCING THAT SPACE TOWN, PROVIDING SOME TREES BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY LINE

>> SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS WHETHER THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT OR NOT.

>> I GUESS WE CAN. IT IS, WITH THE HEIGHT AND EVERYTHING, AND THE MATURE BETWEEN THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH TO GET AN OVER STORIED TREE TO GET IN THERE.

>> SIZE APPROPRIATE, IT MIGHT HAVE HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF OVER STORY IN THERE BUT IF THERE ARE A FEW UNDER STORY IN THERE,

I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. >> IS IT EAST OR WEST BUFFER

YARD? >> IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE.

>> YOU CAN DO IS THE WAIVERS SEPARATELY OR ADD IT ALL TOGETHER, AND ADD THAT CONDITION, IF YOU WISH.

>> I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS WITH THE TWO WAIVERS, AND THE ADDITIONAL CONDITION THAT FOR TREES ALONG THE EAST SIDE, ALONG THE BUILDING.

APPROPRIATE-SIZED TREES >> SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED?

[17. Waiver – Next Steps LLC – PUBLIC HEARING Request: WZ-2022-004]

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 219 LEE ROAD 663 WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS BUT WITHIN THE PLANNING JURISDICTION.

PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE OPTIMAL BOUNDARY.

HERE'S AN AREAL, THE NEAREST CITY LIMITS ARE TO THE NORTHEAST, APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY

>> OTHER THAN THAT, YOU SEE DOWN ON THE BOTTOM THEY ARE A PRETTY

GOOD WAYS AWAY >> THERE ARE THREE WAIVERS

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>> OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS BUT WITHIN THE PLANNING JURISDICTION. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO THESE SIX LOTS DESIGNED AS A FAMILY SUBDIVISION. THE SECOND REQUEST IS TO ALLOW LESS THAN 500 FEET BETWEEN NONADJACENT FLAG LOTS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET WHICH WOULD BE TWO FLAG LOTS LOCATED TO THE EAT EAST, ONE TO THE WEST, AND THERE'S APPROXIMATELY

110 FEET BETWEEN THOSE LOTS. >> AND THE FINAL REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FLAG LOT STEPS TO BE A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET AS MEASURED AT THE ROAD FRONT. THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS REQUIRE 25 FEET AND THEY ARE REQUESTING 20

>> THIS IS DESIGNED AS I SAID AS A FAMILY SUBDIVISION DIVIDE BETWEEN SIX MEMBERS. THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN THEIR FAMILY 60 PLUS YEARS. LEE COUNTY STATE CODE DOES ALLOW EXEMPTIONS FOR FAMILY DIVISIONS OF LAND, AND LEE COUNTY SENSE THAT THAT STATUTE, AUBURN DOES NOT.

SO THAT'S WHY THESE WAIVERS ARE BEFORE YOU.

>> WE DO RECOMMEND DENIAL JUST AS STRICT APPLICATION OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, BUT FEEL THAT GRANTING OF THE WAIVERS SHOULD NOT CAUSE ANY ADVERSE EFFECT TO THE CITY.

>> QUESTIONS. >> DID PUBLIC SAFETY COMMENT ON

THE THIS AT ALL? >> WE DID NOT HEAR FROM PUBLIC

SAFETY. >> I DIDN'T KNOW -- THE 20 FOOT FLAGS, WOULD ALLOW THEM TO GET BACK INTO ANY HOUSES THAT ARE

BUILT IN FE, E, AND D. >> THE FLAG LOTS?

NO, I DID NOT. >> DID YOU HEAR FROM THEM.

>> I DID HEAR FROM THE COUNTY ENGINEER, AND THEY WERE OKAY

WITH THE SUBDIVISION. >> IF I COULD COMMENT FURTHER, I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS OUTSIDE OF OUR FIRE POLICE JURORS I DIDN'TS WE DON'T FIRE IN THIS AREA, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EVENTUALLY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS; IS THAT CORRECT?

>> I THINK THAT IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT IT WOULD EVER BE IN THE

CITY LIMITS >> IT'S LOCATE SORT OF SAY CROSS THE STREET FROM THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

>> I AM OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT, PLEASE COME FOR FORWARD.

>> GOOD EVENING. >> MY NAME IS JAMES FLOYD.

I AM REPRESENTING NEXT STEP, LLC, WHICH IS A LIMITED PARTNERSHIP THAT WAS DEVELOPED AFTER THE DEATH OF OUR FATHER

>> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SIX SIBLINGS THAT STILL ARE ALIVE.

MY FATHER WAS A SHARECROPPER, AND WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS LAND THROUGH HIS HARD LABOR BACK IN THE VERY VERY EARLY 60S.

I THINK THAT I WASN'T 5TH GRADE AT THE TIME.

AND ONE OF THE DESIRES THAT HE HAD AND HE SHARED WITH EACH OF US AS SIBLINGS IS THAT WE MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY, AND THAT IT GOES TO EACH OF US IN SHARES THAT WOULD BE EQUALLY

DISTRIBUTED AMONG US. >> OUR FATHER PASSED IN 2000

>> AND IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FOLLOW UP ON HIS WISHES, WE WERE ABLE TO IN 2015 TO GET A SURVEY DONE THAT WOULD RECOGNIZE THE EQUAL LOT SHARES. MANY AT AT THE TIME I HAD APPROACHED THE LEE COUNTY COMMISSION, AND AT THAT TIME, THE LOT SIZES WAS ACCEPTABLE, AND SOCIALITY .

[02:05:08]

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO HAPPENED ON THE TIME.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT LOTS A, B, AND C, THOSE THREE LOTS ARE ALREADY

DEVELOPED. >> KNEW SISTER HAD HER HOME THERE FOR PROBABLY THE LAST 14 YEARS.

AFTER SHE GOT OUT OF COLLEGE, SHE WORKED AT SMITH STATION AS A SCHOOL TEACHER, UP UNTIL SHE RETIRED, AND DURING THAT TIME.

SHE RAISED HER KIDS AND SO FORTH IN IN THAT PROPERTY WHERE HER

HOUSE CURRENTLY SITS. >> LOT D IS WHERE THE HOME HOUSE IS LOCATED, AND THE LOT A IS THE DEVELOPED LOT THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD DEVELOPED PREVIOUS THAT I HAD A HOME ON.

SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING IN ESSENCE IS TO -- TWO OF MY BROTHERS LIVES OUT OF TOWN, BUT, THEY -- RIGHT NOW, ALL OF US, THE YOUNGEST OF THE ONES OF US THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY IS 68. SO ALL OF US HAVE RETIRED, AND IS LOOKING FOR A PLACE FOR HOME EVEN FOR THOSE THAT ARE OUT OF TOWN, ONE LIVES IN ROBBINS GEORGIA THE OTHER IN COLUMBUS, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND THEN OFTEN ASK ABOUT WHEN WE CAN GET THIS ARRANGED SO THAT THEY CAN PUT SOMETHING THERE SO THAT THEY CAN H COME HOME TO A FACILITY SO THAT THEY WOULD BE COMFORTABLE IN WHEN THEY COME HERE.

>> WE ARE ASKING YOU TO GRANT US THE WAIVER THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR, SO THAT WE CAN FOLLOW THROUGH ON OUR FATHER'S WISHES THAT EACH OF US HAVE AN EQUAL SHARE IN THE LOTS BEFORE IT

TURNS UP THE GUIDELINES >> I KNOW THAT TIME CHANGES EVER EVERYTHING, BUT I CAN'T WHAT HAPPENED THREE YEARS AGO WHEN THE GUIDELINES CHANGED.

BUT I CAN ASK THAT YOU GRANT US THIS WAIVER THIS TIME SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON OUR FATHER'S WISHES.

>> THANK YOU >> SINCE YOU ARE THE APPLICANT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

HAD COMMISSIONERS. >> THE I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION

PROPOSALS >> AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ANY OTHER STIPULATIONS IF THE REQUEST IS JUST FOR THE

THREE WAIVERS. >> I WILL SECOND IT.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES

>> WE HAVE SOME BUSINESS TO ATTEND TO THIS EVENING,

[OTHER BUSINESS]

>> TONIGHT WE HAVE THE PLEASURE EVE LECTING OFFICERS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. AND WHAT WILL ELECTION OF OFFICERS WILL NOW TAKE PLACE AS WE DO NOT HAVE A SLATE, WE WILL

[02:10:04]

WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE OFFICE OF CHAIRPERSON.

>> AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A KNOW NOMINATION OF THE CURRENT VICE CHAIR TO STEP FORWARD AND BECOME PERMANENT CHAIR. CHAIRS A VERY GOOD MEETING, AND I THINK THAT THEY WILL DO A FINE JOB AS CHAIR.

>> VERY VERY SWEET. UNFORTUNATELI, I DON'T ACTUALLY WISH TO BE CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO STAY, I DON'T A WISH TO BE CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO STAYY, I DON'T WISH TO BE CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO STAY VICE CHAIR

>> I'M SETTING BOUNDARIES IN MY LIFE.

>> I AM SORRY. >> I HAVE TO AMEND MY THING, AND ASK THE VICE CHAIR TO REMAIN AS VICE CHAIR, BECAUSE HAVING A WELL RUN MEETING IS VERY VALUABLE TO ALL OF US

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> CAN SAY MAKE A MOTION, TO NOMINATE DR. MCCORD THEN AS CHAIR

>> THAT WOULD BE MY NOMINATION >> I SECOND THAT.

>> WE HAVE A NOMINATION FOR MR. WARREN MCCORD TO SERVE AS THE

CHAIR PERSON. >> ARE YOU WILLING TO DO SO,

SIR? >> I'D RATHER

YEAH. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE. >> GREAT.

NEXT UP WE HAVE THE VICE CHAIR POSITION.

>> I AM HAPPY TO ACCEPT YOUR NOMINATION.

>> >> VERY GOOD. >> IT WOULD NEED TO BE SECONDED.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND NOW WE ALSO NEED A SEC

SECRETARY. >>.

>> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE ROBYN, SHE CAN'T DEFEND HERSELF SINCE SHE'S NOT HERE. I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOMINATE ROBYN BRIDGES AS SECRETARY.

>> I WILL SECOND THAT >> IF THAT'S PROPER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ROBYN BRIDGES AS SECRETARY?

>> AYE. >> PERFECT.

NOW PLEASE REMAIN AFTER THE MEETING TO SIGN YOUR LIFE'S WAY WITH MS. JESSICA, AND I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES UNLESS YOU HAVE

SOMETHING ELSE FOR US. >> I DO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ASKING. >> EVERY I AM ALWAYS GIVING A PLUG ON THE UPCOMING TRAIN, AUGUST 4TH, 1130 OR SO UNTIL FOUR IN THE AFTERNOON, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT

>> AND I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLEMENT STAFF, FOR STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE, AND FILLING IN FOR LOGAN TONIGHT, DOING REPORTS AND PRESENTATION ONES THINGS THAT IT WASN'T THEIR PROJECT TO

MANAGE >> I THAT I THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. THANK YOU

>> A GREAT JOB AS ALWAYS. >> I HAVE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT LINE. THERE WERE SOME IMPLIED THINGS IN SOME OF THE E-MAILS THAT I GOT, AND I WANTED TO SAY TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY ARE NOT HERE IS THE FACT THAT I WORKED THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND SOUTHEAST A GOOD BIT OVER THE YEARS, AND I HAVE NOT FOUND A CITY THAT HAD A BETTER PLANNING STAFF THAN WE HAVE HERE. YOU ARE PROFESSIONAL, YOU ARE ETHICAL AGING TRANSPARENT, AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU

DO FOR US. >> AND YOU DOT ALL YOUR I'S, AND

CROSS ALL YOUR T'S >> YOU GUYS SEND OUT NOTICES, YOU HANDLE 200 PLUS CASES A YEAR, AND YOU DO IT SO EFFICIENTLY. AND THE THOUGHT THAT YOU MIGHT BE GREASING YOUR HAND A BIT. I THINK THAT I KNOW WHERE YOU ALL LIVE, AND YOU GUYS AREN'T DOING A VERY GOOD JOB, IN SPENDING THAT MONEY. SO ANYWAY, I FOUND THAT -- I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT AS PUBLIC SERVANTS.

THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO HAVE BEEN DISPARAGED FOR DOING THEIR JOBS, LIKE THOSE WHO COUNT VOTES.

SO YOU GUYS DO YOUR JOBS, AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> LET ME ALSO ECHO THAT AS WELL.

THIS IS ACTUALLY MY LAST MEETING.

I WOULD LIKE TO, HE IS SPECIALLY THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL OF THE

HARD WORK THAT YOU DO >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY

FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ALSO >> I THINK THAT I WE EARNED OUR SA SALARY EVERY TIME WE COME HERE.

IT'S BEEN AN HONOR AND A PLEASURE

>> SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY. >> I DO WANT TO THANK YOU

EVERYBODY. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU. >> AND WE ARE ADJOUR

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.