Dec 20, 2022 City Council

>> SPEAKER: SO MOVED. >> SPEAKER: ADJOURN SCREEN

[1. CALL TO ORDER.]

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(ROLL CALL) >> SPEAKER: WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR MOMENT OF SILENCE. (RECITAL OF PLEDGE OF

ALLEGIANCE) >> SPEAKER: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. (SILENCE)

'S. >> SPEAKER: PLEASE BE SEATED.

[4. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS.]

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT HAS BEEN A WILLING PARTICIPANT IN APPLYING FOR THESE OPPORTUNITIES.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL -- CITY MANAGER ENTER STAFF MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE BUSINESS LICENSE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AND THE CITY COUNCIL SCHEDULED TO TAKE THIS UP ON JANUARY 17. UNDER MEIER'S ANNOUNCEMENT TONIGHT I WANT TO START OFF BY WE HAVE HAD AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF A RETIREMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR PAUL REGISTER WILL BE RETIRING AT THE END OF NEXT MONTH AND I WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY FOR THE FIRST TIME THANK YOU, PAUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR CITY. AS A POLICE OFFICER AND CERTAINLY AS POLICE CHIEF AND RECENTLY IS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR. WE THANK YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO SPENDING TIME WITH YOU IN YOUR RETIREMENT AND LOOK FORWARD TO ALL OF THE GOOD THINGS YOU HAVE AHEAD FOR YOU.

AND PROUD TO ANNOUNCE AND THANK THE CITY MANAGER FOR IMMEDIATELY APPOINTING WILL MATHEWS AS OUR NEXT PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR AND WILL WILL BE TAKING OVER IN FEBRUARY AND WE ARE EXCITED TO TAKE DORIS WORK WITH YOU. YOU ARE VERY DESERVING OF THIS OPPORTUNITY AND YOU WILL DO A GREAT JOB AND COUNCIL LOOKS FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. SPEAKING OF PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE LAST WEEK, I HAVE GONE TO ATTEND THE FIRE AND POLICE CHRISTMAS PARTY. WHAT A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE.

THAT ARE PROTECTING US EVERY DAY.

I GOT TO MEET MANY FAMILIES AND ENJOY SOME GOOD CASUAL TIME WITH THOSE MEN AND WOMEN WHO PROTECT US AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

THIS PAST FRIDAY WE HAD A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HOUSE A DEDICATION HERE IN AUBURN. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL STORY TO SEE A WONDERFUL FAMILY RECEIVE A HOUSE HERE RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS.

I CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE STAFF AT DOAN MARTIN FOR BUILDING THAT HOUSE AND ALL OF THEIR SUBS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE CITY PARTICIPATED AS WELL. WHAT A GREAT DAY LAST FRIDAY AFTERNOON FOR RECENTLY THE LEADERSHIP TEAM FROM TUPELO, MISSISSIPPI, CAME TO AUBURN AND WANTED TO SEE OUR NEW TOWN CREEK INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND AT APPRECIATE BEING PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THEIR MAYOR AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO LOOK TO DO OVER IN TUPELO.

WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD THAT WE HAVE A FACILITY LIKE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY SERVING ALL OF OUR CHILDREN AND ALL OF OUR FAMILIES , AND PARTICULARLY THOSE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.

WE ARE PROUD OF THAT. THE POLAR PLUNGE IS COMING UP NEXT MONTH ON JANUARY 28. IS A GREAT FUNDRAISER FOR THE LEE COUNTY PUBLIC -- SPECIAL OLYMPICS AND I WANTED TO ASK REPRESENTATIVE PARSONS OVER HERE YOU HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE POLAR PLUNGE RECENTLY AND WE HAVE THREE ROOKIES WITH US AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM

ABOUT. >> SPEAKER: YEAH, IT HAS BECOME A COUNCIL TRADITION, MR. MAYOR, ON YOUR FIRST YEAR OF SERVING, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEW FOLKS JOINING US IN JANUARY.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU FOR THAT DECISIVE AND ASSERTIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THEIR PART. IT IS A GREAT MORNING.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TONIGHT? I KNOW MS. TAYLOR HAD SOMETHING.

>> SPEAKER: YES, I WANTED TO SAY THIS PAST SUNDAY I WOULD LIKE TO SEND SOME SHOUT OUTS TO THE BOYKIN STAFF FOR BEING A GREAT ASSISTANT US WITH THE CHRISTMAS PARTY THE SCOUTS.

THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB AT HELPING SET UP AND TEAR DOWN.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE AUBURN TOY DRIVE FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS AND DONATIONS TO THE CHRISTMAS PARTY.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK MAYOR RON ANDERS FOR HIS CONTRIBUTION FOR OUR CHILDREN AND THEY WERE VERY, VERY HAPPY TO GET THESE TOYS AND TO ENJOY A DAY OF FUN, FOOD, SANTA CLAUS, AND THE WHOLE

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WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT ALL OF OUR DONATIONS AND THINGS THAT WE DO, THAT WE TRY TO DO TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES WITH THE SENIORS AND OUR CHILDREN.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, MS. TAYLOR.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD TERM DORIS WORK.

ANYONE ELSE ON THE COUNCIL? >> SPEAKER: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL OF THE CITY WAS CITIZENS OF AUBURN AND EMPLOYEES, OUR STAFF. IT IS EASY TO SET UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT DOING THE JOB, BUT YOU GUYS DAY AND NIGHT DO THE JOB FROM OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEE TO THE MOST EXPERIENCED EMPLOYEE.

I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT IN THE CITY TO HAVE A BUNCH OF DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS SUCH AS YOURSELVES AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF AUBURN. ALMOST ALL OF THEM I HAVE HAD DEALINGS WITH ON A PERSONAL LEVEL HAVE BEEN VERY PROFESSIONAL AND IT MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN AND MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL OF YOU ALL AND I WISH WE COULD DO MORE FOR YOU

THAN WE DO FOR YOU. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, CHIEF.

ANYONE ELSE? >> SPEAKER: I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT SOME VERY FINE WORK IN THE CITY IS DONE, THE CITY STAFF.

THERE IS A NEW PAGE, A TOOL FOR ALL OF US TO USE WHICH TRACKS THE STATUS OF OUR MAJOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

IT IS VERY GOOD. IT GIVES YOU A BIRD'S-EYE VIEW OF THE PROJECTS, AS WELL AS ESTIMATED INFLATION DATES, AS WELL AS BUDGET INFORMATION. IT IS REALLY, REALLY EXTRAORDINARY. YOU CAN ASSESS -- ACCESS THAT AT AUBURNALABAMA.ORG FORWARD TO CIP , WHICH STANDS I THINK FOR CAPITOL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN. I'M NOT SURE WHO TO BRAG ON THERE? I ASSUME THAT THIS PROJECT CROSSES SEVERAL DEPARTMENTAL LINES.

I'M SURE GREG NELSON HAD A BIG HAND IN ITS I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE DID. I AM BRAGGING ON EVERYBODY BECAUSE I KNOW IT INCLUDES A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL. >> SPEAKER: ANYONE ELSE? BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HOPE YOU HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR AND THANK YOU FOR BEING A GREAT TOWN AND WE ARE ALL HONORED TO REPRESENT YOU UP HERE ENTER OUR STAFF, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK. AND NUMBER OF PEOPLE WILL BE WORKING IN CHRISTMAS ON CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR'S WHILE THE REST OF US ARE PLAYING AND WORKING WITH OUR FAMILIES.

[5. AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS.]

GOOD TO HAVE YOU. >> SPEAKER: HELLO, EVERYONE.

INTRODUCE MYSELF, I'M ANNA COKER AND I'M FILLING IN FOR OLIVIA TONIGHT. GOOD TO BE BACK UP HERE.

WE HAD OUR DECEMBER GRADUATION AND COUNTLESS AMAZING STORIES OF GRADUATES BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A SON AND HIS MOM GRADUATED TOGETHER OUT OF OUR COMPUTER SCIENCE AND SOFTWARE ENGINEERING PROGRAM SO THEY ARE TAKING THE AUBURN FAMILY TO THE NEXT LEVEL LITERALLY. I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THEM FOR THAT AND REALLY PROUD OF THEM.

SPEAKING OF AUBURN GRADUATES, YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OCTAVIA SPENCER, SHE'S A VERY FAMOUS ACTRESS GRADUATED FROM AUBURN AND SHE JUST RECEIVED A STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME FLEW ALL THE WAY OUT TO BE WITH HER TIGER ON THE PLANE.

WE ARE EXCITED FOR HER BUT SHE DOES A LOT FOR US EVERY FINAL SEASON SHE GIVES US A FREE MEAL SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING.

NEXT WEDNESDAY WE HAVE A MEN'S BASKETBALL GAME, WEDNESDAY THE 28TH AT NIGHT AGAINST FLORIDA IF YOU ARE FEELING INCLINED PLEASE GO AND SUPPORT THE TEAM. AND YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED IS QUIET YOU MIGHT HAVE GONE THROUGH DRIVE-THRU'S BASTYR SINCE WE ARE ON CHRISTMAS AND WINTER BREAK.

TERM WILL START JANUARY 11. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

CITY MANAGERS COMMUNICATIONS -- EXCUSE MAKER CITIZENS

[6. CITIZENS’ COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS.]

PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND KNOW

THAT YOU WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. >> SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING.

SAMUEL AIMS WITH GOOD MEALS I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF B&B SELF STORAGE CENTER. THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.

WE ARE REQUESTING REZONING. IT IS ORDINANCE 9B2.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CURRENT CONCERNS PREVIOUSLY ABOUT WHAT

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WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AN APPLICANT WILL ALSO BE COMING UP HERE JUST TO COMMENT ON A FEW

THINGS AS WELL. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: HELLO, MERRY CHRISTMAS.

I'M BUILT A FROM THERMOPOLIS. I GRADUATED FROM AUBURN IN '81.

I HAVE A CONDO HERE AND AM TRYING TO GET RELOCATED TO THIS

AREA. >> SPEAKER: MR. MACKEY HOLD ON FOR TO MEET HIS PHYSICAL ADDRESS?

>> SPEAKER: YEAH, FOR THE RECORD.

>> SPEAKER: TO TEN NORTH STRAWBERRY AVENUE IN THERMOPOLIS

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: I HAVE THIS PROPERTY WITH MY PARTNER UNDER CONTRACT.

WE WENT UNDER CONTRACT IN SEPTEMBER TO CLOSE IN JANUARY.

SUBJECT TO THE ZONING CHANGE. THE ZONING WE ARE ASKING FOR IS IN YOUR 2030 PLAN AND ALL OF THAT SHOULD BE WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR. WE INITIALLY CAME UP WITH THIS KEY IDEAS THAT WE HAVE SCRATCHED AFTER TALKING WITH THE STAFF AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME ITEM THAT LIKE A HOTEL OR RESTAURANT NOW THAT MIGHT WOULD FIT THE STAFF'S BLESSINGS AND ALSO ON OUR PROPERTY. WE WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD TONIGHT WITH A ZONING CHANGE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE TO GET OUR BLESSINGS THERE FOR WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH THE SITE WE ARE ASKING FOR THE ZONING CHANGE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT END-USER YET.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MACKEY?

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? WE WILL MOVE AHEAD NOW WITH CITY

[7. CITY MANAGER’S COMMUNICATIONS.]

MANAGERS, VACATIONS. >> SPEAKER: AS I MENTIONED DURING COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ITEM 8D -- 8B IS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA. THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS CONSENT AGENDA. MAYOR, AND AS ANY MEMBER OF THE ACCOUNTS WHICH REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA DEAL

WITH THAT ITEM INDIVIDUALLY? >> SPEAKER: ANYONE.

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE 8C1.

>> SPEAKER: 8C1. >> SPEAKER: AND 8C3.

>> SPEAKER: ANYONE ELSE? SPIKE ITEM 8C1 AUTHORIZES PURGE

[8.c.1. BSN Sports. Purchase various equipment for the soccer complex expansion. $72,598.59.]

>> SPEAKER: MOVE APPROVAL. >> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND. MITCHELL GRISWOLD?

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. I FULLY SUPPORT THIS BUT I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE RESOLUTION SAYS THAT THE AUBURN SOCCER FIELD ASSOCIATION WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS AND THAT THE CITY IS ONLY BEING USED AS A CONTRACTING CONDUIT FOR IT. IF ANYONE HAD A MISCONCEPTION THAT WE ARE SPENDING AN ADDITIONAL $72,000 FOR THIS, ON TOP OF SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS ALREADY AUTHORIZED FOR THE SOCCER COMPLEX, I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC.

>> SPEAKER: OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? CERTAINLY WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE SOCCER COMPLEX BUT I WENT BY THERE YESTERDAY IN THE FIELDS ARE BEING BUILT WITH A NEW INDOOR, IT WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL COMPLEX.

IT WILL SERVE OUR CHILDREN FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. ANY OTHER? MOTION AND SECOND ALL IN FAVORITE? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

[8.c.3. Gulf States Distributors. Purchase twenty‐two (22) H&K MP7 rifles and magazines. Police Department. $49,654.]

8C3. >> SPEAKER: AUTHORIZES PURCHASE OF 228 NK RIFLES AND MAGAZINES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM GULF STATES DISTRIBUTORS IN THE AMOUNT OF $49,654.

>> SPEAKER: MOVE APPROVAL. >> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND. MITCHELL GRISWOLD.

>> SPEAKER: I INITIALLY HAD CONCERNS BECAUSE THIS IS A SOLE-SOURCE CONTRACT AND I AM AN ADVOCATE OF COMPETITIVE BIDS.

AFTER DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY MANAGER I AM CONVINCED THAT THE GULF STATES IS THE APPROPRIATE SOURCE FOR THIS, AS ALLOWED BY STATE LAW AS AN EXEMPTION TO COMPETITIVE BIDS.

SO IF ANYBODY HAD A QUESTION AS TO WHY WE DIDN'T DO THAT, IT'S BECAUSE OF A SPECIFIC EXEMPTION IN STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS US TO

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>> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?

[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA.]

THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> SPEAKER: SO MOVED.

>> SPEAKER: ALL IN FAVORITE? ANY OPPOSED?

[9. ORDINANCES.]

>> SPEAKER: AND ORDINANCES ITEM 9A1 REQUEST TO ANNEX APPROXIMATELY 9.16 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7284 U.S.

HIGHWAY 280 WEST KNOWN AS PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER.

PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THE DECEMBER 8 MEETING FOR UNANIMOUSLY CONSENT IS

NECESSARY. >> SPEAKER: I WILL INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE AND ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND FOR ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH A VOTE ON THIS THIS EVENING? HEARING NONE ANY QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> SPEAKER: I LIKE TO SAY I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS BEING ON THE NORTH END OF TOWN AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT ASSET AS YOU COME INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PROGRESS OF ITS.

>> SPEAKER: I AGREE WITH YOU. IT WOULD BE A GREAT ACCESS TO OUR MEN AND WOMEN WHO PROTECT US AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THEM RECEIVING THAT TRAINING HERE AT A HUB FOR TRAINING FOR ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE. EAST ALABAMA AREA.

ANYTHING ELSE? LINDSAY, ROLL CALL.

(ROLL CALL VOTE) >> SPEAKER: ITEM 9A TO REQUEST FROM KIMBERLY DAVIS AND IS APPROXIMATELY 6.08 ACRES LOCATED AT 311 LEE ROAD 26 ALSO KNOWN AS ALAHILL DRIVE.

PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST IT AS A SEPARATE UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY.

>> SPEAKER: I'LL INTEREST ORDINANCE AND ASK UNANIMOUS

CONSENT. >> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND. DOES ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH A VOTE ON THIS THIS EVENING? HEARING NONE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? LINDSAY, ROLL CALL? (ROLL CALL VOTE)

>> SPEAKER: ITEM 9A3 REQUEST A LITTLE BROWN LLC AND PKG HOLDINGS LLC TO ANNEX APPROXIMATELY 36.46 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE AT SHELL TOOMER PARKWAY BETWEEN AUTOMOTIVE BOULEVARD AND CANARY DRIVE.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST IN HIS NOVEMBER 10 MEETING.

UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY. >> SPEAKER: I'LL INTEREST THE ORDINANCE AND ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND DOES ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH A VOTE ON THIS THIS EVENING? HEARING NONE ANY COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS? >> SPEAKER: MAYOR, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD FIT FOR US GOING OVER ON SHELL TOOMER.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE LARGE LOTS I THINK WE NEED MORE OF AN IN AUBURN. I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, CHIEF DAWSON TRICK ANY OTHER FURTHER

COMMENTS? >> SPEAKER: IF I MAY, MS. MEGAN

, IN THE COUNTY? >> SPEAKER: IN THE COUNTY,

CORRECT. >> SPEAKER: EVEN MORE REASON TO

VOTE FOR IT. >> SPEAKER: IT IS AN ISLAND THAT SITS BETWEEN QUITE SIGNIFICANT TRACTS OF LAND IN

THE CITY LIMITS. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: LINDSAY? (ROLL CALL VOTE)

>> SPEAKER: ITEM 9B1 REQUEST FROM LITTLE BROWN DOG LLC AND PKG HOLDINGS LLC FOR REZONING APPROXIMATELY 36.46 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SHELL TOOMER PARKWAY BETWEEN AUTOMOTIVE BOULEVARD AND CANARY DRIVE FROM RULE.

TO LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST IS NOVEMBER 10 MEETING BY A VOTE OF 16-2. UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY

IN A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED. >> SPEAKER: I'LL INTEREST

ORDINANCE ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT. >> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND DOES ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH A VOTE ON THIS THIS EVENING? HEARING NONE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVES HER NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND REMEMBER THAT

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. >> SPEAKER: 52 OH ORIOLE DRIVE.

I DID ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION ON ALL OF THIS.

ONE QUESTION THAT WE HAD AT THAT TIME IS IN THE PAST, WHEN WEST FACE DEVELOP IT WAS GOING IN AND BEING PLANNED PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS DESIGNATED BY THE CITY TO REMAIN AS A BUFFER

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OUR QUESTION AT THE TIME FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WAS NOT ADEQUATELY ANSWERED IS WHAT CHANGED? I REALIZED THAT OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY HAS CHANGED, I REALIZE THERE HAS BEEN ALL KINDS OF LITIGATION AND ALL OF THESE SORTS OF THINGS, BUT THIS WAS DESIGNATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP NO LESS THAN SEVEN TIMES AND DECIDED THAT THIS SHOULD REMAIN A BUFFER ZONE.

THIS SHOULD HAVE A BIKE PATH GOING THROUGH IT.

I THINK ORIGINALLY THE IDEA WAS TO TIDY SHELL TOOMER BIKE PATH WITH TOWN CREEK AND GO ACROSS THE INTERSTATE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ALL OF THAT WOULD WORK.

BUT THAT WAS THE INTENTION AT THE TIME.

WAS DESIGNATED FOR THAT. NOW WITH CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY, WE SEEM TO BE READY TO RUBBERSTAMP NEW DEVELOPMENT HERE. AND THERE HAS BEEN NO MENTION, NO EXPLANATION TO THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE THERE THAT WERE COUNTING ON THE BUFFER ZONE AND COUNTING ON A BIKE PATH I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST RESPECTFULLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THERE IS A REASON WHY AUBURN IS CONSISTENTLY RATED ONE OF THE BEST PLACES IN ALABAMA TO MOVE TO.

IT IS NOT A NEW SUBDIVISION IT IS PRESERVING THE CHARACTER OF THIS CITY, IT IS PRESERVING SOME ECOLOGY.

THERE IS A WETLANDS THAT GO THROUGH THAT AREA, THERE IS ALL SORTS OF WILDLIFE THERE. AND WE ARE PROPOSING -- ONCE YOU GET RID OF IT YOU CAN'T GET BACK.

ONCE YOU TURN THAT INTO A SUBDIVISION AND YOU DEVELOP IT, YOU LOSE THAT NATURAL RESOURCE AND YOU LOSE I WOULD SAY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT GIVE AUBURN ITS CHARACTER AND MAKE AUBURN WHAT IT IS I WILL ADMIT, I'VE GOT A STRONG VESTED INTEREST IN THAT BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE HOW'S THAT MY DAD BUILT.

I MOVED INTO THAT HOUSE IN 1976 WHEN I WAS 5 YEARS OLD.

AFTER HE PASSED AND MOM COULDN'T KEEP THE HOUSE ANYMORE AND COULDN'T KEEP IT I BOUGHT IT. I GREW UP RUNNING AROUND IN THOSE WOODS AND I AM OBVIOUSLY VERY BIASED ABOUT THIS.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT IS A NATURAL RESOURCE OR THE CITY AND ONCE IT IS GONE IT IS GONE. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE CONSIDER CAREFULLY WHETHER WE GO FOR THE BRASS RING AND GRAB A SUBDIVISION THAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND GIVE AWAY SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE MORE INTANGIBLE BUT AT THE SAME TIME SOMETHING THAT IS INTRINSICALLY VALUABLE AND BUILDS THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> SPEAKER: YES, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL?

>> SPEAKER: IF I MAY, THE CITY DOESN'T OWN THAT PIECE OF

PROPERTY. >> SPEAKER: NO, THE WEST PACE AGREEMENT WAS CONTEMPLATED FOR A LONG TIME AND ONE BIG CHALLENGE AND IT DID, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE WEST FACE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS ZERO TO DO WITH ZONING AND/OR AND/OR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNRELATED LEGALLY WHICH IS OFTEN HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.

AND YES AND ABSOLUTELY, ON THE WHIPPOORWILL SUBDIVISION A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE WEST PACE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS PAST.

WHILE I WAS A MORE JUNIOR STAFF MEMBER OF THE TIME I WORKED WITH PHILIP DUNLAP IS AS ONE OF HIS PEOPLE THAT HE DID A LOT OF THE WORK ON THIS ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

BUT BEHIND THE SCENES I ALSO WORKED ON THIS.

IN RESEARCH AS THE PERSON WHO WAS SUBMITTING THING TO CITY COUNCIL AGENDA THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS PAST.

THERE WAS A 2008 AGREEMENT THAT WAS NEVER IMPLEMENTED AND THEN THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS IMPLANTED WAS ADOPTED IN 2009.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2009 AGREEMENT AND THE 2008 AGREEMENT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS PARCEL IN QUESTION BUT THERE WERE OTHER MAJOR NUANCES BUT NOT GERMANE TO THE DISCUSSION TODAY.

THIS PARCEL IN QUESTION INITIALLY WAS PART OF THE ENTIRE WEST PACE DEVELOPMENT IN THE 2008 AGREEMENT AND THERE WAS TO BE A BUFFER AND SO ON. IN THE 2009 AGREEMENT, THE THEN OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TOOK THIS ACREAGE AND SAID I DON'T WANT TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PERIOD.

I DON'T WANT TO IN HERE, I'M NOT ANNEXING IT I'M NOT ZONING IT.

IT WILL BE LEFT IN THE COUNTY AND THAT IS WHERE IT STOOD UNTIL THIS EVENING WHEN YOU ANNEXED IT.

IT HAS BEEN OUT IN THE COUNTY. SO THE AGREEMENT DOES CALL ON THE EXISTING WEST PACE PROPERTY FOR THE BIKE TRAIL THAT WAS MENTIONED AND 100-FOOT BUFFER. THE AGREEMENT CALLS OUT A PIECE OF IT AND THEN THE DRAWINGS I WILL SHOW ON THE WEST PACE PROPERTY I HAVE THIS TO OUR LEGAL COUNCIL WHO HAS INTERPRETED THAT THE BUFFER BELONGS ON THE EXISTING WEST PACE PROPERTY. TO RIGHT NOW PROPERTY IS NOT

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AND DOESN'T CURRENTLY INVOLVE THIS ACREAGE.

THAT IS TWO DIFFERENT LEGAL COUNCIL, BOTH BROAD CRANOR FROM BRADLEY THAT AS OUR BOND COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS AND RESIDENTS REACHED OUT AND I DON'T HAVE A FINAL ANSWER ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BIKE PATH ITSELF, BUT I DO HAVE AN ANSWER THAT THIS ACREAGE IS NOT

INVOLVED. >> SPEAKER: WE DON'T APPROVE THE TONIGHT, IT STILL COULD HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT PIECE OF

PROPERTY THAT YOU WANTED TO. >> SPEAKER: WE HAVE APPROVED THE ANNEXATION BUT ANYTHING IN THE RULES OWN COULD HAPPEN.

UNLESS MR. FOOT CORRECTS ME, STAFF, THIS IS AN UNEXPECTED USE FOR THIS AREA AND I THINK STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS IN TERMS OF IT MEETING OUR LAND USE PLAN AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE EXPECT AND SEES IT AS A COMPATIBLE.

IS A KIND OF A LITTLE BUFFER AREA BETWEEN WHAT IS HEAVILY ZONED COMMERCIAL AND WHIPPOORWILL SUBDIVISION TRIP ONE OF THE CHALLENGES ABOUT WEST PACE AND PEOPLE DID UNDERSTAND IT IS PART OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL AUDITS UNLESS THIS BODY WERE TO AGREE TO DO THAT. IT IS A PURELY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PERIOD. THAT IS BY DESIGN AT THE TIME THE DEAL WAS DONE. I THINK OUR CITIZEN THAT CAME UP AND HAD QUESTIONS IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

THERE IS MAJOR PUBLICATIONS WITH MANY THINGS DUE TO A BANKRUPTCY AND OWNERSHIP THAT I CAN ASSURE YOU IT HAS NO IMPACT ON ZONING OR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS WHATSOEVER AND IT DOESN'T INVOLVE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IN QUESTION RIGHT NOW.

>> SPEAKER: I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ROAMING THROUGH THOSE WOODS. I ALSO RESPECT THE PERSON YOU WANT TO DEVELOP THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND KEEP IT WITH WAS TO THE COMMUNITY ALREADY. WHIPPOORWILL IS ONE OF THE NICEST COMMUNITIES AND A WELL-KEPT SECRET.

I'M HAPPY TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO WATCH THE PROPERTY THEY WILL BUILD SOMETHING SIMILAR AND THAT'S WHERE --

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD LIKE HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ON THE SITE OF WHIPPOORWILL AND I KNOW THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT IS HERE. THERE IS A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS. THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT ISN'T FULL OF WETLANDS AMONG OTHER THINGS.

>> SPEAKER: I APPLAUD THE DEVELOPER FOR WORKING WITH THE STAFF FOR COMING UP WITH THIS PLAN, LOOKING AT SOME WAYS WE CAN MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT HAS TO BE CLEARED FOR THE LOTS AND FOR THE ROAD TO BE CONSTRUCTED.

THERE IS SOME PRIME AREA THERE THAT HAS BEEN REFERENCED AND THERE'S FLOODPLAINS AND WETLANDS WITHIN THAT AREA.

THAT WILL BE IDENTIFIED AND WE WILL DEAL WITH THAT DURING THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TEAM PROCESS AND APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT.

>> SPEAKER: I APOLOGIZE, THE CREEK IS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

YOU HAVE DRAWINGS IN YOUR PACKET.

WE SHOWED YOU A POTENTIAL LAYOUT.

WHILE THAT IS NOT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID SEE THAT AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE LAYOUT LOOKED LIKE.

>> SPEAKER: IF I UNDERSTOOD, THERE STILL IS A BUFFER?

>> SPEAKER: IT IS ON THE OTHER PIECE.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT A DRAWING IN YOUR POCKET -- PACKET THIS IS PRELIMINARY PACKET IS IN THE DOTTED AREA.

THE BUFFER WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT TO THE WEST PACE DEVELOPMENT FOR TO SEE THE CREEK RUNNING THROUGH.

>> SPEAKER: TO THE RIGHT. >> SPEAKER: YEAH, TO THE RIGHT.

THAT IN THE AGREEMENT SAYS A BIKE TRAIL AND A 100-FOOT BUFFER

IS WHAT THE AGREEMENT SAYS. >> SPEAKER: IT SAYS THERE IS OCCURRENCE BIKE TRAIL IN THE NORTH TRAVERSES THE NORTH END OF THIS PROPERTY. WILL THAT REMAIN?

>> SPEAKER: SHELL TOOMER BIKEWAY.

>> SPEAKER: IT TRAVERSES THE NORTH END.

>> SPEAKER: THE NOTION OF THE TIME WITH THE NEIGHBORS IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, NOT JUST WANTING A BIKE TRAIL DOWN TO THE INTERSTATE, WHICH THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE NO STREET WOULD BE RUNNING DOWN THAT WAY NOT AN EASY THING TO MONITOR, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CONCERN WAS WITH CONTINUING CURB CUTS FROM THE WEST PACE DEVELOPMENT AND NOW THIS, PART OF THAT CONCERN BECOMES AS YOU ARE WRITING ALONG THAT TRAIL OR BIKE TRAIL YOU ARE HAVING TO STOP IF YOU ARE ON YOUR BIKE OR PEDESTRIANS AND THE SAME FOR VEHICLES EVERYBODY HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL. THERE IS MORE CONFLICT.

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THIS WILL CAUSE A STREET BUILDING RIGHT ACROSS THE TRAIL.

>> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> SPEAKER: IF WE ANNEXED THIS AS RURAL THAT ALLOWS FOR TEN LOTS TO GO ON IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS READ ANNEXATION, WHEREAS READ ANNEXATION IS SHOWING ABOUT 25 LOTS ARE 25 LARGE LOTS VERSUS TEN 3-ACRE RULE LOTS.

>> SPEAKER: IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR DEFINITION OF LARGE LOT IS.

LARGE IS 1 ACRE PLUS AND RULE DOESN'T ALLOW LESS THAN 3-ACRE.

>> SPEAKER: I'M COUNTING THE NUMBER THEY HAVE ON THE CHART

HERE IS 25. >> SPEAKER: RIGHTS.

I'M JUST EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENCE IN THE ZONING

CATEGORIES. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THIS DRAFT PLAT MANY OF THESE ARE OVER AN ACRE.

>> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? LINDSAY, ROLL CALL. (ROLL CALL VOTE)

'S. >> SPEAKER: ITEM 9B TO REQUEST FROM B&B SELF STORAGE CENTER TO REZONE A PROXIMALLY 5.69 ACRES LOCATED AT 320 COX ROAD TO COMPETENCE OF DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT ITS OCTOBER 13 MEETING. THIS ITEM WAS POSTPONED FROM NOVEMBER 15 CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD AT THAT TIME AND YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

>> SPEAKER: SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE SO WE CAN JUST OPEN UP DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION?

>> SPEAKER: MEGAN, WE APPROVED THIS TONIGHT, WHAT CAN BE DONE

WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? >> SPEAKER: I WILL HAVE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT BUT THE VERY, VERY SIMPLE ANSWER IS, ANYTHING FROM LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.

MEANING, RURAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL CRICKET ALLOWS A LOT OF HOUSING, COMMERCIAL, OFFICE, ROAD SERVICE USES, YOU NAME IT.

BUT IT IS A ZONE THAT COVERS JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD AGREE WITH MEGAN THEY ARE TRICKED A LOT OF USES THAT WOULD REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE BUT IS A PRETTY

BROAD CATEGORY. >> SPEAKER: I JUST THROW IT OUT THERE, I WANT THIS EXIT OFF I-85 TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS MOST PLEASURABLE TO THE EYE IF YOU COME IN FROM THE SOUTH IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST EXIT INTO AUBURN ON THE SOUTH COLLEGE REALLY DROPPED THE BALL ON SOME OF COLLEGE ST.

IS NOT VERY PRETTY IN SOME AREAS I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO MAYBE HAVE THIS STUDIED A BIT MORE AND SEE WHAT WE WANT TO PUT OUT THERE AND WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST FIT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

I REALLY DON'T -- I REALLY THINK THE CITY OUGHT TO TAKE HIS TIME.

THE AREA AROUND THE INTERSTATE WHAT CAN WE ALLOW AND WHAT CAN'T BE ALLOWED? THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO I-85 AND I THINK IT'S PART OF OUR LOOP AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE A SHOWPIECE FOR THE CITY OF AUBURN I THINK IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

WHAT CAN WE DO TOWARD THAT? >> SPEAKER: WE STUDIED THIS PROPERTY OFF-AND-ON OVER TIME AND THERE HAD NOT BEEN -- WE HAD A LARGE PROPERTY OWNER IN THE LARGE COLLEGE AREA THAT OWNS A LOT OF PROPERTY IN WEST VETERANS BOULEVARD AS WELL THAT WAS CONCERNED THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT IN 2013 TO DO SOMETHING CALLED INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL. THE GOAL WITH INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL ZONE WHAT TO BASICALLY MAKE A PERMITTED USE EVERYTHING THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CALLED IT INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL.

>> SPEAKER: THE PROPOSED DISTRICT WAS INTERSTATE

COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. >> SPEAKER: THAT'S ALSO WHAT IT IS IN THE LAND USE PLAN. THEY WERE CALLED ONE AND THE SAME WHICH FOR ALL INTERSTATE STYLE USES WOULD BE PERMITTED.

BUT IT PROHIBITED THINGS LIKE HOUSING YOU DON'T -- I KNOW WE HAVE HOUSING A LOT A LOT OF OUR INTERCHANGES BUT THIS IS MORE OF A COMMERCIAL INTERCHANGE SITTING RIGHT ON EXIT 50.

PART OF THE REASON SOME OF THAT DIDN'T COME FORWARD FOR THIS PARTICULAR INTERCHANGE IS BY AND LARGE INCLUDING THE PEACE THAT BUC EE'S SITS ON ALL FOUR CORNERS OF IT WERE IN THE COUNTY. SO YOU CAN'T ZONE SOMETHING THAT

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>> SPEAKER: I BELIEVE WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WAS PROPOSED BACK IN 2015 AND DUST THAT OFTEN SEE WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT IT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE CHANGED.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF STEPS THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH BUT WE COULD LOOK AT IT THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR SO.

>> SPEAKER: IT CERTAINLY CAN BE STUDIED FURTHER.

THE CDD ZONE WHILE VERY FLEXIBLE ZONE, WE HAVE BEEN MOVING MORE AND MORE AWAY FROM IT. A LOT OF SOUTH COLLEGE ST. WAS ZONED AS SUCH AND GOT CHANGED TO SOUTH COLLEGE QUARTER DISTRICTS AND THAT WAS TO ALLOW USERS THAT BELONG IN THAT CORRIDOR TRICK THAT ZONING CHANGE HAPPENED AFTER A LOT OF THINGS CHIEF CHIEF DAWSON IS REFERRING TO HAPPENED.

ANOTHER PROBLEM IN ITSELF COLLEGE WAS SOME ISSUES WE HAD THAT THERE WERE POCKETS IN AND OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS.

THERE IS A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT SIT BETWEEN SAY WALMART AND INCIDENT -- INTERSTATE THAT ARE NOT IN CITY LIMITS.

YOU CAN DEVELOP IT BECOMES OBVIOUS AT TIMES.

>> SPEAKER: INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL WOULD INCLUDE THINGS YOU WOULD SEE OFF INTERSTATE EXITS.

>> SPEAKER: YOU WOULD MAKE THEM PERMITTED BY WRITE A SET OF

CONDITIONAL USE. >> SPEAKER: YOU ARE INCLUDING RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, THINGS LIKE YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SAY.

>> SPEAKER: WHILE YOU ARE TYPICALLY NOT INCLUDING IS THE GAMUT THAT COMES WITH THE CDD ZONE OF MULTIFAMILY SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING, LIGHT MANUFACTURING CREEK THINGS LIKE MANY SWORDS AND SO ON CAN GET INVOLVED BUT THEY OFTEN DON'T SIT ON THE FRONTAGE OF A LOCKED. HE WOULD PUT THAT BEHIND THE PRIMARY, PUT A HOTEL AND MINISTORAGE BEHIND IT BUT YOU WOULDN'T MAKE THAT THE PRIMARY USE ON THE FRONTAGE TYPICALLY

STOP. >> SPEAKER: WHAT ABOUT TRUCK

STOPS? >> SPEAKER: THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE STUDY AS TO WHETHER THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT.

IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE PURSUE BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.

>> SPEAKER: I APPRECIATE THE INTEREST IN AUBURN.

I APPRECIATE THEM WANTING TO DEVELOP OUT THERE.

WHAT CAN WE DO TONIGHT AND DO WE HAVE ANY OPTIONS BESIDES DENYING IT OR CAN BE PUT OFF FOR A WHILE AND GIVE THE TIME THE CITY TIME TO LOOK INTO IT. I HATE TO APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE PUT THEIR ON THAT LOT.

>> SPEAKER: UNDERSTOOD. YES, YOU CAN THEORETICALLY POSTPONE BUT IF YOU POSTPONED THE ONLY REQUEST GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS ADVERTISED FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TRIP WE DON'T HAVE INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT CREATED YES. ONE HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED BUT THERE IS A GOOD BIT OF PAPERWORK ON ITS SO YOU ARE ONLY CHOICE WOULD BE IF THAT IS A ROUTE THAT YOU WANT TO GO YOU WOULD EITHER HAVE TO DENY THIS APPLICATION OR ASK THEM TO WITHDRAW IT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROCEED. UNTIL THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS. BUT THAT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT'S. YOU CAN VOTE IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER HOWEVER YOU WISH. IF YOU WANTED TO STUDY IT BECAUSE THAT HE HAD. WE CAN MAKE IT AS MUCH OF A PRIORITY AS IT IS A PRIORITY FOR YOU.

ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR INTERSTATE INTERCHANGES EXCEPT FOR BENT CREEK INTERCHANGE HAVE NOT BY AND LARGE HAD ALL THE TRACKS IN CITY LIMITS THAT HAS BEEN VERY CHALLENGING AND THAT IS WHY SOME OF THEM ARE DEVELOPED IN THE WAY THEY ARE. FOR THE TRACKS THAT WE DO HAVE, IT IS NICE TO GIVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO BUILD WHAT THEY NEED TO BUILD WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE.

AND ALSO IT IS NOT THE PREFERENCE OF STATIC-EE HOUSING NOT BEEN ANY HOUSING, IT IS A LIE RIGHT SITUATION WITH THIS PROPERTY. AS THE ZONING SITS TODAY THIS -- IT ALLOWS HOUSING ON THIS SO NOTHING KEEPS THE APPLICANT FROM SAYING NOT THAT THEY PROPOSE THIS, WE WANT TO BUILD THIS THEY CAN DO THAT BY WRITE THEY HAVE VESTED RIGHTS AND THIS HAS BEEN ZONED LTD FOR SOME TIME. I BELIEVE, MR. FOOT?

>> SPEAKER: IT HAS BEEN CHANGE FOR SOME TIME.

>> SPEAKER: SO I THINK SOMEONE ZONED IT THAT WAY BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING YEARS AGO.

I KNOW IT IS A TOUGH SITUATION BUT IT IS UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO PAUSE AND STUDY THIS, THEN YOU CAN PICK BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO DEAL WITH THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

>> SPEAKER: IF WE DENY IT IN THIS YEAR.

>> SPEAKER: I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

I WAS THINKING THROUGH THAT. I DON'T REMEMBER THE SECTION OF CODE BUT IF THEY WITHDRAW ITS THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO

BRING IT BACK I WOULD SAY. >> SPEAKER: EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE CAN ALLOW IT TO BE HEARD SOONER.

THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE WOULD BE IF YOU DID DENY THIS APPLICATION AND THEY CAME BACK AND APPLIED FOR ANY THINKER THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO APPLY WE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY PLACE THE ZONING ON ITS IF THAT IS A DESIGNATION YOU WANT TO GO WITH.

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO APPLY FOR THAT BUT THEY WOULD FOR CDD.

IT IS ULTIMATELY UP TO THEM. YOU HEARD SOME THINGS IN THE EARLY PART OF THE MEETING ABOUT CONTRACTUAL DEADLINES AND OTHER

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YOU ARE ALSO AT YOUR PLEASURE YOU CAN SPEAK TO THEM IF YOU WISH, MEANING THE COUNCIL HAS THE RIGHT IF YOU WANT THE APPLICANT TO APPROACH AGAIN YOU COULD ASK THEM QUESTIONS IF YOU

WISH. >> SPEAKER: I WOULD TO ASK A

QUESTION. >> SPEAKER: YES, SIR?

>> SPEAKER: I DO APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST IN AUBURN AND TO DEVELOP OUT THERE. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT IT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO WITHDRAW YOUR APPLICATION TONIGHT AND GIVE THE COUNCIL TIME TO GET SOME INFORMATION FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND YOU COULD PUT YOUR PLANS BACK OUT THERE WAS WE DECIDED WHICH WAY YOU WANT TO GO BACK IF I GET A NEGATIVE VOTE, I

WOULD RATHER. >> SPEAKER: I WOULD RATHER

WITHDRAW. >> SPEAKER: I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL BUT I WOULD VOTE NO.

>> SPEAKER: MR. MACKEY, IF YOU HAVE A CLOSING THEY, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE, IS IT CONTINGENT UPON REZONING TO THE CDD OR IS IT ONE THAT YOU CAN STILL CLOSE AUDITS KNOWING THAT INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION MAY BE FORTHCOMING?

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE LANDOWNER.

THE INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE FINE WITH US, IF WE HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT TONIGHT, BUT WE DON'T. THE CDD IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED FOR MOST COMMERCIAL STUFF THEIR.

WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN HOUSING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT IS WHY WE WERE HERE. >> SPEAKER: WHAT WAS YOUR ANTICIPATED TIMELINE FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO SHARE THAT?

>> SPEAKER: I DON'T HAVE AN END END-USER YES.

WE ARE KIND OF THINKING CARWASH TO START WITH BUT THAT'S OFF THE TABLE. SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR A HOTEL AND MAYBE A RESTAURANT. THOSE KINDS OF END-USERS AND WE WOULD, WITH CONDITIONAL USE WHO WOULD COME BACK AND ASK FOR YOUR

PERMISSION. >> SPEAKER: MR. MACKEY, THE WAY OF THE CARWASH HAS KIND OF BECOME NOT A THING, WAS THAT THROUGH A CONVERSATION WITH OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENTS?

>> SPEAKER: YOU LISTENING TO THE COUNCIL OF THE PLANNING

DEPARTMENT? >> SPEAKER: YES.

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD SAY FOR MR. MACKEY, ABSOLUTELY IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDING ZONES, THE ZONES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, CDD IS IT, MEANING THERE ISN'T ANOTHER ZONE THAT IS APPLICABLE HERE OTHER THAN IF WE CREATED A NEW ZONE.

SOUTH COLLEGE CORRIDOR DISTRICT HAS VERY SIMILAR CHARACTERISTICS BUT YOU DON'T TYPICALLY -- IT IS NOT APPLIED IN THIS AREA SO WE WOULD EITHER HAVE TO MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE HERE WHICH WOULD BE ON THE WRONG ROAD. HE IS STUCK IN TERMS OF LEGALLY STUCK. HE EITHER GETS THE CDD ZONE OR THE COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO TAKE AN ACTION TO CREATE THE INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL ZONE SO HE CAN DO VERY SIMILAR -- OUR CHALLENGE IS RESTRICTING, YOU CAN RESTRICT A PLAN DISTRICT BUT THIS PARCEL IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR WON.

HE IS A LITTLE BIT STUCK IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF -- WE COULD COULD'VE OUSTED ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL ISSUES AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME. CURRENTLY WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS UNDERTAKING A STUDY TO GET THOSE THINGS ADDRESS FOR THIS VERY SITUATION. BUT THIS IS WHERE IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CYCLICAL CHALLENGE FOR YOU AND IT IS WHAT DO YOU WANT

TO DO? >> SPEAKER: I'M VERY CONFLICTED RIGHT NOW. I RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE SPENT MONEY IN OUR TOWN AND YOU WANT TO SPEND MORE MONEY IN OUR TOWN AND YOU WANT TO DEVELOP AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, I AGREE WITH CHIEF DAWSON. WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE MAYBE THE SAME MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE EARLIER AND WE WANT THINGS TO BE A LITTLE MORE PRESENTABLE AS PEOPLE COME INTO AUBURN,

ESPECIALLY FROM THE SOUTH. >> SPEAKER: IF YOU WANT, I WILL DOUBLE CHECK, I KNOW MR. FOOT HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I AM NOT UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE INTERPRETS THAT WE CAN CONDITION THE CDD ZONE.

>> SPEAKER: I DID TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND HE IS NOT

ENDORSED THAT PRACTICE. >> SPEAKER: SO WE HAVE BEEN ASKED THAT OVER THE YEARS AND THAT IS WHERE IT PUTS HIM.

IF YOU WANT TO POSTPONE, IT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT'S IN HIS TIME PERIOD TO SEE IF I CAN GIVE YOU ANY OTHER INFORMATION BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING AND WE CAN TALK BETWEEN.

THAT IS UP TO YOU. THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US BUT I THINK YOU ARE STUCK BETWEEN THE CDD ZONE AND HIS TIMING. HE'S BEEN MEETING AND WORKING

WITH US. >> SPEAKER: WE STILL HAVE THE OPTION OF POSTPONING TO A DATE CERTAIN WHERE THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED AT THIS TIME TO WITHDRAW HIS APPLICATION , BUT IN THE COURSE OF THAT TIME AND A DATE CERTAIN

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WITHDRAW HIS APPLICATION. >> SPEAKER: HE SURE CAN.

THE QUESTION IS THE JANUARY 3 MEETING WAS VERY QUICKLY.

>> SPEAKER: CORRECT. >> SPEAKER: WE WON'T BE WORKING. WE HAVE A FEW DAYS OFF AROUND THE HOLIDAY. THERE IS ENOUGH PEOPLE IN TOWN WE COULD CERTAINLY HAVE SOME DIALOGUE, BUT I JUST MEAN THAT IS UP TO YOU AND THE APPLICANT WHAT YOU WISH TO DO.

>> SPEAKER: BUT WE COULD POSTPONE TO EVEN FURTHER DATE?

>> SPEAKER: YOU COULD. >> SPEAKER: BUT HE HAS A CLOCK

PICKING ON HIM. >> SPEAKER: YES, END OF JANUARY

>> SPEAKER: 17TH. IS THAT WORKABLE FOR YOU? SO THAT GIVES US TIME TO VET EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN AND SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING -- ANY STONE WE CAN TURN OVER.

IF YOU HAVE A GENERAL CONSENSUS ABOUT A COMMERCIAL USE, BUT THAT IS WHY WE NEEDED INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL ZONE BECAUSE THEN THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT TWO CHIEF DAWSON'S POINT.

>> SPEAKER: LET US SEE WHAT WE CAN DO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO SEE IF WE CAN PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND I WOULD TRY TO GET TO A MEMO IN THE INTERIM TO KEEP YOU UPDATED.

BUT THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN WORKING.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SPRAYED OF OPERATION -- COOPERATION. SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS A

MOTION TO POSTPONE? >> SPEAKER: RIGHTS BUT WE HAVE OUR MARCHING ORDERS TO CHECK LEGALLY IF THERE'S ANY OTHER RESTRICTION OR IF YOU CAN AGREE TO ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES OR ANY OTHER TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX WE WILL TRY TO DO THAT.

UNDERSTANDING FROM YOU COLLECTIVELY YOU ARE INTERESTED IN INTERSTATE STYLE USES FOR THIS FACILITY.

>> SPEAKER: NOT EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN UP.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING.

>> SPEAKER: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A STUDY OF THE INTERSTATE

COMMERCIAL. >> SPEAKER: LIMITS YOU WILL BE CAN DO WITH THIS APPLICANT STUCK IN THE MIDDLE AND WE WILL GO

FROM THERE. >> SPEAKER: SO PROCEDURALLY ARE

WE IN ORDER? >> SPEAKER: TO MOVE TO POSTPONE

IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WISH TO DO. >> SPEAKER: I MAKE A MOTION TO

POSTPONE TO JANUARY 17. >> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND TO POSTPONE JANUARY 17.

TO HE NEEDED. WILL DO A VOICE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. APPRECIATE YOU FOR YOUR

PATIENCE. >> SPEAKER: ITEM 9C DECLARES 9.78 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT INDIAN PINES GOLF COURSE WHICH IS JOINTLY OWNED BY THE CITIES OF AUBURN AND OPELIKA SURPLUS PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZES THE SALE OF SUCH PROPERTY TO AUBURN UNIVERSITY TO FACILITATE THE EXPANSION OF THE RUNWAY SAFETY AREA FOR THE AUBURN UNIVERSITY REGIONAL AIRPORT.

UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY. >> SPEAKER: I WILL INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE AND ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND BRICK DOES ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH A VOTE ON THIS THIS EVENING? SEEING AND HEARING NONE ANY DISCUSSION OF QUESTIONS? LINDSAY, ROLL CALL. (ROLL CALL VOTE)

[10. RESOLUTIONS.]

>> SPEAKER: UNDER RESOLUTIONS ITEM 10A REQUEST FROM HALEY CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL OF A PERFORMANCE RESIDENTIAL USE A DUPLEX FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 861 EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE PERFECT PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST THAT IS A SEPARATE MEETING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IS

REQUIRED. >> SPEAKER: MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND.

AT THIS TIME OF OVER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

SAY NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? >> SPEAKER: I HAVE A COUPLE.

WHAT IS THE SHAPE OF MR. HALEY IS LOTS?

IS IT RECTANGULAR OR T-SHAPED? >> SPEAKER: MR. FOOT?

>> SPEAKER: THERE ARE THREE LOTS OF THEIR TRICKS THE ONE QUESTION IS THE ONE THAT IS T-SHAPED IS WHERE THEY ARE

PROPOSING THE DUPLEX. >> SPEAKER: WHO OWNS THE ADJACENT LOTS THAT MR. HALEY WOULD USE IN RE-SUBDIVIDING THE

SUBJECT LOTS? >> SPEAKER: I BELIEVE HE OWNS

ALL THREE OF THE LOTS. >> SPEAKER: SO NO ISSUE THERE WHATSOEVER AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

>> SPEAKER: THE SUBDIVISION? >> SPEAKER: NO, AS FAR AS BEINA CONTINGENCY ON HIS 75 FEET IN WIDTH.

SO HE COULD DO WHATEVER HE WANTS TO.

HE HAS A RECTANGLE THERE I GUESS >> SPEAKER: YES, SIR.

WE HAVE PROVIDED A DRAWING IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWS THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT WIDTH ALONG THE FRONTAGE TO READ SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY TO PROVIDE THE 75 FEET REQUIRED FOR THE DUPLEX.

>> SPEAKER: THE QUESTION I HAD WAS WHO OWNED IT ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT 60 FEET I GUESS IS WHAT HE HAS IN THE T-SHAPED.

>> SPEAKER: YES. >> SPEAKER: THAT IS THE POINT AT ISSUE PRINT THAT IS WHAT IS CONTINGENT IS THAT 60 FEET THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE FRONT AND SO HE IS GOING TO ADD ENOUGT

12 AT HALF FEET. >> SPEAKER: DUPLEX IN THE DDH REQUIRES CONDITIONAL USE. INITIALLY THEY TALKED ABOUT

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IF THEY HAVE THE PROPER FRONTAGE THE GREEK SUBDIVISION TO ACHIEVE THE SUBDIVISION WOULD BE THE PROPERTY BACK THAT'S THE WIDTH OF THE STREET? REQUIREMENT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. HE HAD HAS TO COMPLY WITH IT SO IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT AND THEY CANNOT COMPLY

WITH IT IT IS MOOT. >> SPEAKER: SO WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THAT ASPECT ONLY THE USE?

>> SPEAKER: JUST TO SHOW THEY HAVE THE WIDTH TO MAKE IT WORK AND A CONDITION THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING THAT

SAID TO RESUBDIVIDE IT. >> SPEAKER: ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >> SPEAKER: THE PACKET INDICATES THAT THE NUMBER OF PARKING STALLS HAS NOT YET BEEN PROVIDED. IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? I THINK IT'S ONE PER BED IS REQUIRED? IS THAT SUFFICIENT? BACK THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE

THAT AT THE ART TEACHER. >> SPEAKER: THEY ARE AWARE THEY

WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT. >> SPEAKER: THEY HAVE TO COMPLY

OR THEY COULDN'T GET A PERMIT. >> SPEAKER: ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES. >> SPEAKER: ITEM 10B AUTHORIZES TAX ABATEMENT FOR ADS-TEC ENERGY INC. TO BE LOCATED AT 229 TEAGUE COURT IN THE AUBURN INDUSTRIAL PARK FOR THE COMPANY WILL INVEST APPROXIMATELY $8,095,000 AND CREATES APPROXIMATELY 177 IN YOUR PACKET AND THEY HAVE ADJUSTED THAT UP TO 180 JOBS

OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS. >> SPEAKER: MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? CERTAINLY CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR STAFF.

WHAT A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY.

VERY PROUD TO HAVE THIS CHECKED COMPANY FROM GERMANY COME TO OUR COMMUNITY. GREAT PRESS RELEASE OUT TODAY.

A QUOTE FROM THE GOVERNOR INCLUDED IN THERE.

THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR AUBURN SO CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR STAFF FOR EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

>> SPEAKER: ITEM 10C AUTHORIZES TRANSFER OF FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY TO THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF THE CITY OF AUBURN FOR THE PURCHASE OF APPROXIMATELY 78 ACRES OF ADDITIONAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2477 LEE ROAD TEN FOR THE AMOUNT OF THE TRANSFER WOULD BE $2,118,374.

>> SPEAKER: MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SPEAKER: SECOND.

>> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND FOR ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>> SPEAKER: THIS WILL ALLOW 881,000 OF THE INITIAL 3 MILLION TO REMAIN. YOU HAVE A PROPOSED USE FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE OR SOMETHING COMING ALONG?

>> SPEAKER: YES, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED PROPERTY FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. WE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFYING PROPERTY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS SO WORKING IN THIS AREA.

THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE FIRST PURCHASES WE ANTICIPATE LOOKING AT OTHER PROPERTY VERY SHORTLY. THOSE FUNDS WOULD GO TOWARDS THE

TOTAL PURCHASE. >> SPEAKER: AND THOSE WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN YOUR INITIAL ASSESSMENT?

>> SPEAKER: YES. >> SPEAKER: 2.5 MILLION IS IN FISCAL YEAR 24 SO WE SPLIT THE STACK UP SO SOME OF IT COULD CARRY FORWARD INTO 24 FROM THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT YOU MENTIONED.

AND SO THAT WILL HELP DO THIS BUT THERE IS OTHER PROPERTY IDENTIFIED BUT THEY ARE NOT QUITE READY TO PROCEED WITH.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. >> SPEAKER: ANY OF THE

QUESTIONS? >> SPEAKER: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES. >> SPEAKER: ITEM 10C AUTHORIZES EXECUTION OF A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH AUBURN UNIVERSITY FOR TEMPORARY USE OF PROPERTY SURPLUS FOR INDIAN PINES TO FACILITATE FACILITY SIX HOLES OF THE GULF COURSE AND EXPANSION OF THE RUNWAY SAFETY AREA FOR THE AUBURN UNIVERSITY REGIONAL

AIRPORT. >> SPEAKER: MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SPEAKER: SECOND. >> SPEAKER: MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

[12. CITIZENS’ OPEN FORUM.]

>> SPEAKER: THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS OF BUSINESS WE HAVE YOU

THIS EVENING. >> SPEAKER: AT THIS TIME AND OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZEN'S FORM. YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL BUT ANYTHING ON YOUR MIND PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

>> SPEAKER: A GOOD EVENING. I'M ROBERT WILKINS, 261 DENSON DRIVE. I WAS ACTUALLY AT MY HOUSE WITH MY WIFE AND I TURNED ON THE TV BY ACCIDENT AND I KNEW YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT THE REVOKING OF BUSINESS LICENSE SITUATION.

I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH MOST OF YOU ASKING A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS IN GENERAL. BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHY

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THIS ORDINANCE WILL NOT BE THE SAME AS ALL 93 ACROSS THE STATE OF ALABAMA. THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT.

A LOT OF THEM ARE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC.

WHY CAN WE NOT BE SPECIFIC? WHY ARE WE BEING SO GENERAL AND COUNCILMAN PERSON, GREAT WHAT YOU SAID.

HEAVY-HANDED, YES. Y'ALL CAN BE HEAVY-HANDED BUT OTHER COUNCIL DOWN THE ROAD. WHEN YOU GO TO COURT YOU DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BECAUSE THE LAW IS THE LAW.

IT IS SO BROAD, SO OPEN. COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, IS IT MORE THAN TAXES? YES.

YOU BET YOUR BOTTOM IT IS. 100 PERCENT MORE.

YOU CAN DO ANYTHING, NOT JUST TAXES.

IF YOU WANT TAXES, GRAB TAXES. PUT IT IN THERE.

IF THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE, PUT IT IN THERE.

BE SPECIFIC. DO NOT BE SO GENERAL.

IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN THE CITY DOESN'T WANT SOMETHING TO PASS THE WAY THEY WANTED TO PASS, THAT THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO BE VERY GENERAL. THE DATA, LIKE SOMETHING I HAD MENTIONED MANY A TIME BEFORE, YOU DIDN'T BRING UP DATA.

IT WAS PULLED OUT OF YOU ALL. 7100 BUSINESSES, I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED THAT. IN THE MEETING EARLIER.

YOU TALKED ABOUT MAYBE TEN, 13 BUSINESSES OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. THAT IS NOT MANY BUSINESSES OUT OF 7100. BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE SPECIFIC, LET'S BE SPECIFIC. LET'S STOP BEING SO GENERAL.

IT SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME THAT SHE WOULD HAVE A LAW THAT WOULD BE SO BROAD THAT WOULD COVER SO MUCH STUFF.

THE QUESTIONS YOU ALL ASKED ARE GREAT, BE MORE SPECIFIC.

BUT WE HAVE PULLED THIS OFF FOR THREE OR FOUR MINUTES -- MONTHS.

THE CITY BUT HOPE WE WOULD CONTINUE ON AND HE WOULD GIVE HIM. PLEASE DON'T GIVE IN.

VOTE THE WAY YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR EACH ONE OF YOUR WARDS.

STUDY, YOU ARE MY WARD PERSON. PLEASE VOTE NO OR IF IT IS SPECIFIC, LET THE CITY COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

THEY DIDN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING.

THAT'S IT. >> SPEAKER: WHO WILL BE NEXT?

>> SPEAKER: MAYOR ANDERS, 412 OPELIKA RD., APARTMENT 111.

WHEN I CAME BEFORE Y'ALL LAST COUNCIL MEETING I EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS IN RELATION TO THE TASER RING INCIDENT IN NOVEMBER, LATE NOVEMBER. I STILL HAVE THOSE CONCERNS.

HOWEVER, SOMETHING HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION SINCE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THERE IS ANOTHER SITUATION THAT I WAS INVOLVED IN LAST SUNDAY. BECAUSE OF THAT I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER SOMETHING FROM THE FRONT AND TONIGHT.

I WOULD SUGGEST SOMETHING, SOME PRIORITY DURING 2023 IN REFERENCE TO MENTAL HEALTH SINCE THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS THE VICTIM OF THE TASER RING EVENT APPARENTLY HAD MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. IF YOU COULD WORK WITH SAY AUBURN UNIVERSITY OR EAST ALABAMA MEDICAL CENTER AND LEE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND THE CITY OF OPELIKA, LEE COUNTY COMMISSION, TO COME UP WITH SOME MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY OR MENTAL HEALTH UNITS. MAYBE YOU COULD ADD IT TO THE PUBLIC TRAINING CENTER ANNEXATION THAT YOU APPROVED TONIGHT. AND MAYBE MAKE IT AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY BUDGET OR ADJUSTED SOMEHOW TO LET THIS BE SO.

ANOTHER SUGGESTION TO ADD TO IT, IF YOU COULD WORK OR IF YOU COULD CONVINCE THE LEE COUNTY DELEGATION OF THE ALABAMA LEGISLATURE, PARTICULARLY THE NEW SENATOR THAT'S Y'ALL KNOW HIM, JAY HOVEY, TO SORT OF MAKE THIS A PRIORITY, TRIED TO GET FUNDING FROM THE STATE WITHOUT, THAT WOULD I THINK HELP RESOLVE THE ISSUE ON THE FRONT END. LAST SUNDAY I RAN INTO A GENTLEMAN WHO KNOWS SOME WHAT'S I THINK HE HAS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. I HOPE I'M WRONG BUT HE WAS SITTING AT A PARK BENCH IN FRONT OF HAMILTON'S, STARING INTO SPACE, IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF HIS KNOWS.

I HAD TO RUN OVER TO SAINT DUNSTAN'S TO GET SOME PAPER TOWELS AND WIPE OFF THIS NOT OUT OF HIS KNOWS AND GIVE HIM THE REST OF THE PAPER AND ONE OF MY MASKS.

HE WAS SITTING THERE ON THE PARK BENCH.

I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE THIS.

WHEN I CHECKED BACK AFTER CHURCH I SAW HE WASN'T SITTING THERE

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JUST A THOUGHT. THANK YOU.

>> SPEAKER: THANK YOU. MS. CROUSE, EAST ALABAMA HEALTH IS THERE TO SERVE AUBURN AND OPELIKA.

I KNOW WE APPOINT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY TO SERVE ON THE BOARD. I PRESUME THEY ARE THE CONDUIT FOR SOME OF THESE TYPES OF THINGS.

>> SPEAKER: I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE OVERALL PERSPECTIVE.

>> SPEAKER: IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO PUBLIC HEALTH.

>> SPEAKER: EAST ALABAMA HEALTH AND HOW THAT WORKS.

DENTAL HEALTH. >> SPEAKER: PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL ARE REGULARLY IN COMMUNICATION WITH EAST ALABAMA HEALTH WHEN THEY RUN ACROSS SOMEONE, AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER AGENCIES THAT DEAL WITH SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

STAFF ARE TRAINED TO DO THAT AND SO YES, THAT IS OUR RESOURCE WHEN STAFF RUN ACROSS SOMEONE WHO SEEMS TO BE EXPERIENCING SOME DIFFICULTIES. THE DIFFICULTY IN THAT IS THERE HAVE TO BE A JUSTIFICATION AT THAT POINT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT PERSON? ARE THEY A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR SOMEONE ELSE? THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE NATIONWIDE ABOUT WHAT WE DO ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH.

IT IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY.

>> SPEAKER: THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THERE IS NOT MORE TO BE CONSIDERED AND MORE TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH AND MORE TO BE PLANNED FOR. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE OUR GENTLEMAN UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS SOME RESOURCE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WAS ACTIVE NOW AND HAS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING FOR THIS YEAR TRICK I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.