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[ROLL CALL]

[00:00:09]

>> ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR FIRST MEETING OF 2023, THE WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 11TH, BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT REGULAR MEETING. WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL.

>> GREW GOODNER? AMY SORRELLS? KIM WHITE? MARTY HEFFREN?

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

LETITIA SMITH? MARRY BOYD? >> HERE.

>> AND THEN THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. LOOKS LIKE OUR LAST

MINUTES ARE FROM AUGUST 3RD. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> DREW GOODNER?

>> YES. AND FROST ROLL MINUTES. >> YES.

>> AMY SOREL IN. >> KIM WHITE?

>> YES. >> MARTY HEFFREN IN.

>> YES. >> LETITIA SMITH?

[CHAIRMAN’S OPENING REMARKS]

>> YES. >> MARY PROVIDE?

>> YES. >> GOT OPENING REMARK. ANY PERSONS AGGRIEVED BY ANY DECISION OF THE BOARD MAY WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER SUCH DECISION APPEAL TO THE CIRCUIT COURT, HAVING JURISDICTION ACCORDING TO SECTION 908.02 OF THE ZONING

[1. Variance to Section 502.02(D), Performance Residential Developments, Twin House, of the City of Auburn Zoning Ordinance]

ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF AUBURN, ALABAMA. AND NEW BUSINESS?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS REQUEST IS FOR A VARIANCE TO THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR TWIN HOUSE DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY TO THE REQUIRED 25-FOOT MINIMUM SETBACK NO A SIDE YARD ON A STREET. THE APPLICANT'S ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR A VARIANCE OF 10 FEET TO ALLOW A SETBACK OF 15 FEET. AND SINCE YOUR PACKETS WE WANT OUT, THEY HAVE REVISED THE SITE PLAN AND REDUCED THE REQUEST TO A VARIANCES OF 7 FEET TO ALLOW A SETBACK OF 18 FEET. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 603 HARPER AVENUE AT THE CORNER OF HARPER AND SUMMER HILL ROAD. IT IS JUST UNDER 8,000 SQUARE FEET TOGETHER WITH IT AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, IT CREATES THE DEVELOPMENT SITE FOR THE TWIN HOUSE DEVELOPMENT. THE LAND USE IN THE AREA IS PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY. HERE WE'VE GOT SOME VACANT LOTS, CHURCH HERE TO THE WEST, DUPLEXES TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE DUPLEX LOT HERE HERE ON HARPER CIRCLE, THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. AND TO THE SOUTH ON HARPER, MAINLY OR PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, THERE IS ONGOING REDEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT STREET AND THE DUPLEXES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED.

THE PROXIMATE SHOWS THE PROPERTIES IN THE MDRD ZONING DISTRICT. THERE IS DDH AND CRDE SURROUNDING IN THE AREA. A NUMBER OF PERMITTED USES IN MDRD WOULD PERMIT AS LITTLE AS A 10-FOOT SETBACK FOR A SIDE YARD ON A STREET: TOWNHOUSES AND COTTAGE DEVELOPMENTS ARE BOTH PERMITTED USES IN MDRD AND ALLOW UP TO A 10-FOOT SIDE YARD ON A STREET SETBACK. SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, WHICH IS A PERMITTED USE, AND ACADEMIC DETACHED DWELLING UNIT, A CONDITIONAL USE, ALLOW UP TO A 15-FOOT SIDE YARD ON STREET SETBACK. AND THEN THE SAME IS TRUE FOR CRDE DISTRICT WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT ADDUS ARE NOT PERMITTED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT. HERE'S THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S CURRENTLY TWO LOTS AND THE APPLICANT WOULD BE SUBDIVIDING INTO FOUR LOTS FOR TWO TWIN UNIT STRUCTURES FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR TWIN HOUSE UNITS. EACH WOULD BE LOCATE ON THEIR OWN LOT. AND THE BSA PREVIOUSLY GRANTED VARIANCES TO THE MAXIMUM FAR ALLOWANCE FOR THREE OF THE PROPOSED UNITS BACK IN MARCH OF 2022. HERE'S A CLOSEUP OF THE SITE. THE I ARE REGULAR -- THE IRREGULAR SHAPE HERE MAKES IT CHALLENGING TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY IN A WAY THAT THE 25-FOOT EYED YARD ON THE STREET SETBACK IS MET WHILE MAINTAINING THE FAR ALLOWANCE ALLOWED BY THE PREVIOUSLY GRANTED VARIANCES.

THE SITE PLAN SHOWS A SETBACK OF 18 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH DOES REQUIRE A VARIANCE OF 7 FEET. AND THERE IS A 15-FOOT BUFFER YARD HERE ALONG HARPER AVENUE, WHICH WILL HAVE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING PLANTED THERE AS WELL. LET ME GO BACK ONE. THIS

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PICTURE IS TAKEN FROM THE CORNER OF HARPER AND SUMMER HILL LOOKING NORTH TO THE SITE. THE SETBACK WOULD BE MEASURED FROM ABOUT 6 FEET BEHIND THE UTILITY POLE HERE. THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO THE EAST HERE, FOR REFERENCE, IS ABOUT 22 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. THIS PICTURE IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE CENTERPOINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT SITE LOOKING NORTH. THE APPLICANT HAS TAKEN STEPS TO RETAIN LARGE EXISTING MATURE TREES ON-SITE. THESE RED AND WHITE OAKS. AND THEY'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE REMAIN THIS PICTURE IS TAKEN FROM THE NORTHERN END OF THE SITE LOOKING DOWN TOWARDS HARPER. THE LOT DOES SLOPE DOWN TOWARDS THE SOUTH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE TREES, THAT THERE'S THE WHITE OAK THAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS PICTURE. AND RIGHT ABOUT HERE IS THE CURRENT PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN THOSE TWO LOTS. THE VARIANCE SUPPORTS THE TWIN HOUSE DEVELOPMENT FOR WHICH THE BZA PREVIOUSLY GRANTED VARIANCES TO THE MAXIMUM FAR AND WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS THE APPLICANT PROPOSED AT THAT TIME. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE VARIANCE IS LIMITED TO 7 FEET TO ALLOW AN 1T SETBACK AS SHOWN ON THE SITE

PLAN DATED JANUARY 9TH, 2023. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS. >> YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE A FEW -- SO THIS ONE REQUIRES 25 FEET, BUT YOU RATTLED OFF A FEW USES THAT REQUIRE 15 OR 10 FEET?

>> UH-HUH. TOWNHOMES AND COTTAGE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD ALLOW A 10-FOOT SIDE YARD ON STREET SETBACK, AND SINGLE FAMILY AND

ADDUS ALLOW UP TO 15. >> SO WHAT USE IS THIS THAT'S

REQUIRING? >> THIS A TOWNHOME?

>> THIS IS A TWIN HOUSE. >> IT REQUIRES 25.

>> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THERE >> I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW.

>> OKAY. BECAUSE WE'RE 18 FEATS AND THERE'S LOTS OF USES THAT

COULD BE TEN? >> CORRECT.

>> ALL I WOULD SAY IS I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS AN EXPLANATION FOR IT, BUT IT'S IN OUR CODE TODAY. IT DATES BACK TO I DON'T KNOW WHEN, BUT CERTAINLY I WOULD SAY THAT IT DOES LOOK INTERESTING THAT SOME OF THE USES WOULD HAVE A MUCH SIGNIFICANT REDUCED SIDE YARD SETBACK VERSUS THIS WHEN THE IMPACT, YOU WOULD THINK, WOULD NOT BE ANY DIFFERENT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, I THINK, THAT WE WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE. DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO CHANGE THE CODE TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THOSE USES.

>> YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF TWIN HOME VERSUS THE TOWNHOME. THE CODE SEEMS TO ALLOW A LOT OF USES. A LOT MORE DENSITY, FAR, EVERYTHING, AND THEN WE GET VARIANCE REQUESTS FOR SOMETHING THAT IS A UTILIZING THE PROPERTY LESS AND LESS BEDROOMS. IT'S JUST AN ODDITY IN THE CODE, I GUESS.

>> UH-HUH. >> YES. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO FOR CLARIFICATION, THERE WAS ALREADY A VARIANCE PREVIOUSLY

APPROVED. >> YES.

>> SO IS THIS VARIANCE TO ALLOW US TO STAY IN ALIGNMENT WITH

THAT VARIANCE? >> YES.

>> OR CAN YOU GET AWAY WITHOUT HAVING THIS VARIANCE AND STILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO PUT FORTH WITH

THE PREVIOUS VARIANCE? >> NO. THIS VARIANCE WOULD ALLOW THE PLAN THAT BE APPROVED FOR THE VARIANCE YOU APPROVED BACK IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR TO GO FORWARD.

>> OKAY. >> JUST WITH THIS REDUCED

SETBACK. >> IS THIS MAINLY FOR THE TREES LIKE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS IF THEY WEREN'T TRYING TO PRESERVE THE TREES? IT LOOKS LIKE ON THAT NORTHERN CORNER THAT THERE'S ROOM, BUT THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO AVOID HAVING TO TAKE DOWN THE TREES? IF NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

>> I THINK THERE MIGHT BE GRADING ISSUES AS WELL.

>> OKAY. >> I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS PROBABLY HERE, TOO, IF YOU DECIDE YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS

YOU WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? BASELINE SURVEYING.

RIGHT THERE. SO THE MORE YOU PUSH INTO THAT HEEL , OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO A, CLEAR THE TREES. B, YOU'RE GOING TO DIG INTO THAT HILL AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE SITTING THERE LOOKING AT A SLOPE RIGHT HERE. SO THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT THERE IS TRYING TO KEEP THAT THING, AND YOUR DRIVEWAY IS COMING OUTRIGHT

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THERE AT THAT BANK AND WE'RE GOING TO PUSH IT AWAY FROM THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO YOU'RE NOT JUST STARING RIGHT INTO THE BANK WHEN YOU TRY TO COME OUT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE SURPRISED.

>> I WOULD ASSUME FOR GRADING AND DRAINAGE ISSUES, TOO, THAT'S GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT.

>> YOU'D RATHER KEEP THAT BALANCING WAY FROM THAT SLOPE A LITTLE BIT.

>> RIGHT. >> WE DID HAVE A THREE TO ONE SLOPE RIGHT THERE AND JUST

PLAYED IT DOWN AND CAME ON OUT WITH IT. >> IT'S DECEIVING. I DRIVE BY THAT ALL THE TIME, THAT ABANDONED TRUCK, AND I'M LIKE, YOU DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW

I'VE EVER DRIVEN UP SUMMER HILL >> IT'S HARD TO SEE I SLOPE SOMETIMES. YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU THINK IT'S FLAT AND YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU'RE LIKE, WOW, THERE'S 13 FEET OR SOMETHING.

YEAH, ANYWAY. ANY QUESTIONS, JUST -- >> I HAVE ONE. SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO CONDITION THE VARIANCE ON THIS, BUT WILL Y'ALL MAKE BEST EFFORTS TO PRESERVE THOSE

OAKS? >> OH, YEAH. HE WANTS TO KEEP THOSE. HE DOES NOT WANT TO CUT

THOSE. THAT'S WHY HE KEPT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> I JUST KNOW SOME PEOPLE USE TREES AS AN EXCUSE TO GET A VARIANCE AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE, AH-HA.

>> HE WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY CLEARED THEM WHEN HE HAD THE CHANCE, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CHEAPER THAN BRINGING SOMEBODY BACK OUT LATER, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE COST HIM MORE.

BUT HE WANTED ME TO KEEP ALL THOSE TREES, AND I SAID, HEY, CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THEM ARE GOING

TO HAVE TO GO, YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> ARE WE ABLE TO CONDITION SOMETHING, CONDITION ON TREE PRESERVATION?

>> THAT WOULD BE HARD TO -- >> I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER COME UP BEFORE.

>> IT'S NOT COME UP THAT I WOULD REMEMBER. I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD ON SOMETHING THAT COULD

NATURALLY DIE. I MEAN, THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT CONDITION. >> I DON'T THINK YOU --

>> IT DOESN'T NATURALLY CUT DOWN. >> IF YOU HAD A CONDITION ON THERE THAT SAID LET'S SAY -- IT WOULD BE NICER IF THE PLAN SHOWED THE TREES AND YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO OAK TREES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT NEED TO BE PRESERVED DURING CONSTRUCTION AND PROTECTED. NOW, IF THEY DIE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, YOU'RE NOT SAYING YOU'VE GOT TO REPLACE THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT OUT OF THE ORDINARY, TOO, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN YOUR MIND. YOU'RE JUSTIFYING PART OF THIS, BECAUSE OF THE RETAINING OF EXISTING VEGETATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WOULDN'T HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT. YOU MAY

NOT HAVE DONE IT BEFORE, BUT I THINK IT'S -- >> WE'VE GRANTED VARIANCES, THERE WAS ONE WHERE IT WAS A HANDICAP RAMP AND THEY WANTED TO KEEP A BEAUTIFUL WATER OAK. SO WE DIDN'T MAKE IT CONDITIONAL ON THAT, BUT THAT WAS THEIR ENTIRE INTENT WAS TO DO THAT. SO WE'VE

MADE ALLOWANCES FOR THAT BEFORE. >> AND WHAT YOU MENTIONED, ALSO, YOU KNOW, MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU SEE A SIDE SETBACK ON STREET, IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND, LIKE, A 75% OF YOUR FRONT SETBACK. THIS IS A VERY ODD CASE WHERE YOU GET, YOU KNOW, PENALIZED TWICE, YOU KNOW, ON THIS ONE, FRONT AND SIDE, TOO. AND IT'S JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST I'VE SEEN LIKE THAT IN THAT ASPECT, BECAUSE I'M USED TO IT. I'M USED TO SEEING 20-FOOT SETBACK. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A 15-FOOT ON THE STREET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THIS IS JUST AN ODD ONE. VERY ODD. I THINK STEVE MENTIONED IT. IT PROBABLY WOULD BE WORTH LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO MATCH. IT'S LIKE IT'S NOT WAY OUT OF

PLACE THAN THE OTHERS. >> RIGHT. >> YOU KNOW? IT JUST SEEMS ODD SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF THAT WHOLE THING, TOO. IT'S JUST A MYRIAD HERE.

>> AS AMBER SAID, ALSO HAVE A BUFFER YARD ON THAT HARPER SIDE, ANYWAY, SO ...

>> IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT YOU DID TO REDUCE FROM 10 FEET TO 7 FEET IS JUST SHIFT EVERYTHING UP A

LITTLE BIT IN. >> THAT'S RIGHT. AND ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS FOR THAT IS WE PUT A STORM DRAIN ON THE FRONT RIGHT THERE. AND I WANTED JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM TO KIND OF CUT THAT DOWN THROUGH THERE AND TRY TO NOT HIT THE FOOTING OR ANYTHING, AND THAT GAVE ME PLENTY OF ROOM TO BE SAFE, YOU KNOW, MOVE THAT STORM DRAINAGE, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM STAFF WAS, YOU KNOW, GET THE DRAINAGE CAULKED BEHIND IT. THEN I GOT TO CATCH THAT DRAINAGE AND SHIFT IT DOWN TOWARD THAT INLET AT THE FRONT. SO IT GAVE ME JUST ENOUGH ROOM.

I HAD ENOUGH ROOM, BUT I FELT BETTER IF WE COULD MOVE IT MAYBE JUST THREE MORE FEET AND NOT -- THAT DIDN'T HURT ME TOO BAD NORTH, BUT IF I KEEP GOING, I'M GOING TO START, YOU KNOW,

HITTING IT BAD. >> I'M ASSUMING, IS THAT THE UTILITY EASEMENT? LIKE I DON'T

SEE THE STORM DRAIN ON THE PLAT. >> OH, NO. THAT WOULD BE ON THE GRADE DRAINAGE PLAN.

>> OKAY. >> SO IT WON'T SHOW THERE. BUT IF YOU CAN -- IT'S AT THE BACK CORNER OF THAT LOT BACK THERE. BASICALLY, IF IT YOU CAN IMAGINE THE DRAINAGE DITCH COMING DOWN THE BACK OF IT AND CATCHING JUST BEFORE THE SIDEWALK, WE'RE GOING TO BERM IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

>> OKAY. >> CATCH IT THERE SO ALL THAT WATER DOESN'T COME OVER THE SIDEWALK AND INTO THE STREET SO IT'S GOING TO CATCH IN THAT INLET. PIPE TO THE INLET IN THE

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STREET CORNER. FAIRLY SHALLOW. >> LIKE RIGHT HERE, DRAINAGE UTILITIES. OKAY. .

>> THANK YOU, JOEL -- I'M SORRY THANK YOU, LETCH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR AGAINST THIS VARIANCE? ARE YOU ALL FOR IT OR

AGAINST IT? >> FOR IT. >> WE'VE GOT ONE BOY.

>> JUST CANCELED EACH OTHER OUT. >> WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN UP TO THE BOARD

FOR DISCUSSION AND/OR A MOTION. >> I THINK IT'S A WELL STATED CASE THAT JUST AFFIRMS WHAT WE'VE ALREADY TRIED TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE OTHER VARIANCES AND GOES A LITTLE FURTHER. IT MAKES IT BETTER FOR US. MAKES IT BETTER FOR THE DEVELOPER. SO --

>> YEAH. I THINK THAT'S -- >> NO OBJECTIONS. I THINK IT'S FINE.

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BZ20220018, VARIANCE OF 7 FEET TO THE REQUIRED 25-FOOT

MINIMUM SETBACK. IS THAT CORRECT, ISN'T IT? >> 7 FEET.

>> DID YOU WANT TO CONDITION IT ON THE PLAT SHOWN LIKE AMBER MENTIONED?

>> I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. >> CONDITION IT ON WHAT? >> HOW DID YOU WORD THAT, AMBER

>> ON THE NEW REVISED PLAT. >> DATED JANUARY 9, 2023. >> AND CAN WE ADD IN THE TREE CONDITION WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT STEVE ARTICULATED? * YOU MIGHT HAVE TO REARTICULATE.

>> SAY THAT AGAIN FOR US. >> IN MY MIND, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TREES, AND I'M NOT SURE, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT SOME FENCING ALREADY UP, A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL JUST SAY PROVIDE LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE THAT WOULD PROTECT THE EXISTING TREES ON THE NORTH END OF THE LOT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THAT IS OR NOT, BUT WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE TREES ARE NOT REMOVED. I JUST DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT

YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. >> YEAH. SO CONDITIONED ON THE SITE PLAN FROM WHAT WAS THE DATE

ON THAT, AMBER IN. >> JANUARY 9TH. >> JANUARY 9TH, 2023. I'M NOT INCLINED TO PUT ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT THE TREES, BUT I WOULD LISTEN TO THE BOARD. I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HARD TO MONITOR AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE BEST THEY CAN,

BUT ... >> I AGREE ON THAT. I'LL SECOND.

>> DREW GOODNER? >> YES. >> FROST ROLL MINUTES.

>> YES. >> EMMY SORE SMELLS. >> YES.

>> KIM WHITE? >> YES. >> MARTY HEFFREN?

[2. Election of Officers]

>> YES. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS THIS IS OUR ANNUAL MEETING, SO THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD ELECT THE NEW CHAIRMAN OR REELECT THE CHAIR MAN AND A VICE-CHAIRMAN.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO TO THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS. TAKE ANY NOMINATIONS. I KNOW KIM IS ROLLING OFF. WE WILL START WITH A NOMINATION OR DISCUSSION FOR A CHAIRPERSON.

>> THE PERSON WITH THE MOST EXPERIENCE, DREW GOODNER, IS MY NOMINATION TO REMAIN CHAIR.

>> SECOND. >> DREW? >> SOUNDS GREAT. SOUNDS GOOD TO

ME. >> DREW GOODNER? >> YES.

>> FROST ROLL MINUTES. >> YES. >> EMMY SORRELLS?

>> YES. >> KIM WHITE? >> YES.

>> MARTY HEFFREN? >> YES. >> LATICIA SMITH?

>> YES. >> MARY BOYD? >> YES.

>> AND THEN WE WILL DISCUSS AND NOMINATE A VICE-CHAIR. WITH THE NEXT LONGEST EXPERIENCE WOULD BE

FROST. CORRECT? >> I THINK SO. >> SO I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE

FROST FOR VICE-CHAIR. >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> DREW GOODNER?

>> YES. >> FROST ROLL MINUTES. >> YES.

>> E I SORRELLS? >> YES. >> KIM WHITE?

>> YES. >> MARTY HEFFREN? >> YES.

>> IS LETITIA SMITH? >> YES. >> MARY BOYD?

[CHAIRMAN’S COMMUNICATION]

>> YES. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION, BESIDES KIM.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR SEVEN YEARS, I THINK. >> YES, THANK YOU, KIM.

>> IT'S BEEN GREAT. >> WE WILL MISS YOU. >> I'LL MISS Y'ALL, TOO.

>> DROP BACK BY. CHECK ON US. >> I'LL HAVE TO REQUEST A VARIANCE.

>> YES. COME IN AND GET SOMETHING. >> YOU CAN DENY IT. THERE YOU

GO. >> I THINK KIM HAS HAD TO RECUSE HERSELF FROM MORE CASES THAN

ANYONE, DUE TO HER WORK. >> THROUGH HER WORK. >> HEY, JUST PUT A MURAL ON THE

SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE AND WE'LL COME OUT. >> YEAH.

[STAFF COMMUNICATION]

>> ANY STAFF COMMUNICATION? >> NOT TONIGHT. I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. WE APPRECIATE KIM'S DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO THE BOARD AND TO THE CITY. AND OF COURSE, NEXT MONTH, LATISHA WILL MOVE INTO A REGULAR ROLE WITH THE BOARD AND REPLACE KIM IN THAT VENUE. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE VACANCY FOR SUPER NAME REAND THAT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING FILLED. WE DO

HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR THAT. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S IT. WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.