8.b. Alcohol beverage license. Proof of the Pudding by MGR, Inc. d/b/a Proof of the Pudding Football Performance Center at Auburn University. 160 ‐ Special Retail ‐ More Than 30 Days. 702 Biggio Drive.

[8.b. Alcohol beverage license. Proof of the Pudding by MGR, Inc. d/b/a Proof of the Pudding Football Performance Center at Auburn University. 160 ‐ Special Retail ‐ More Than 30 Days. 702 Biggio Drive.]

15TH, 2027. THE APPOINTMENT WILL BE MADE AT THE MARCH 14TH MEETING, ASSUMING YOU MOVE THE MEETING DATE TO MARCH 14TH. ARE YOU READY FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS AND THE CONSENT AGENDA, THEN HE CAN COUNCILMEMBER WISH TO DEAL WITH AND ITEM INDIVIDUALLY?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM EIGHT-THE- ONE.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> IF I MAY, ITEM EIGHT, BRAVO, EIGHT, DELTA, TWO , EIGHT, DELTA, THREE. ANYONE ELSE? WE'VE GOT A FEW LEFT, IF YOU WANT TO GET THEM.

>> OKAY. WE WILL START WITH HB.

>> IT IS A REQUEST FROM PROOF OF THE PUDDING FOR A SPECIAL RETAIL MORE THAN 30 DAYS, ALCOHOL BEVERAGE LICENSE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 702 BIGGIO DRIVE, ALSO KNOWN AS THE

FOOTBALL PERFORMANCE CENTER. >> MOVED FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> SUNNY, I WILL TURN IT OVER

TO YOU. >> SINCE I PROBABLY WILL NEVER SEE THE INSIDE OF THIS FACILITY, I WONDERED IF YOU COULD GIVE ME A FEW DETAILS ON THE OPERATION AND PROOF OF THE PUDDING AND, OF COURSE, WHICH WILL BE OPERATING OUT OF THE AU

FOOTBALL TRAINING FACILITY. >> I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF AUBURN UNIVERSITY, THEY ARE, AS FAR AS I KNEW, THEY WERE A VENDOR THAT WAS SELECTED THROUGH A BIDDING PROCESS, SO WITH THAT COMES , DURING SPECIAL EVENTS, ALCOHOL IS SERVED. INCLUDING IN THE STADIUM IN CERTAIN AREAS AND NOT IN OTHERS AND IT ALL RUNS THROUGH THE VENDOR THAT WAS SELECTED THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WHICH AT THIS TIME IS PROOF OF THE PUDDING. PERIODICALLY, THE CITY WILL GET ALCOHOL BEVERAGE REQUEST TO SERVE ALCOHOL ON CAMPUS, THAT OFTEN HAS TO DO WITH THE RED BARN FACILITY, WHICH IS TYPICALLY UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA. MOST OTHER UNIVERSITY FACILITIES, WHEN IT COMES TO ANY ALCOHOL BEING SERVED ON CAMPUS RUNS THROUGH PROOF OF

THE PUDDING. >> THE UNIVERSITY HAS THEIR OWN RFP PROCESS AND BECAUSE THEY ARE WANTING TO SERVE ALCOHOL,

THEY ARE COMING TO US? >> THE UNIVERSITY IS SOMEWHAT SOVEREIGN WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS WHEN IT COMES TO ALCOHOL BEVERAGE LICENSES, THESE DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE NO ZONING AUTHORITY ON CAMPUS, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOES COME THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL.

[8.d.1. Bradley Arant Boult Cummings, LLP. State governmental affairs representation services. $7,500 per month.]

QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

>> IN THE AMOUNT OF $7500 PER MONTH.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, MR. ADAMS, WILL TURN IT OVER

FOR YOU. >> MEGAN, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THIS ONE, MR. WILKINS NOTED THAT AUBURN IS THE SEVENTH LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE OF ALBA ALABAMA, RIGHT NOW, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT. >> WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OTHER TOP 10 MOST POPULOUS CITIES IN THE STATE, HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE STATE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS REPRESENTATION?

>> OUR RESEARCH HAS SHOWN, OVER TIME, NINE OF THE 10,

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INCLUDING THE CITY OF AUBURN, HAVE HAD SOME KIND OF REPRESENTATION BECAUSE WE HAD TWO MONTHS OF REPRESENTATION LAST YEAR. AT THE PRESENT MOMENT, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT 2023 BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY HAS SIGNED BACK UP, BUT IN 2022, IT WAS SIX OF THE 10 AND AUBURN WOULD BE THE SEVENTH FOR THE TWO MONTHS THAT WE HAD IT. AND IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER, THERE ARE 23 CITIES IN ALABAMA THAT HAD REPRESENTATION IN FISCAL 2022 OR CALENDAR 2022 AND FIVE OF THOSE CITIES -- SEVEN TOTAL OF THE BIG TEN, ACTUALLY, IT WOULD BE 24 IF YOU INCLUDE AUBURN, IF AUBURN IS IN THERE, 24 CITIES TOTAL, SEVEN OF WHICH BELONG IN THE BIG TEN, EVERYBODY ELSE FROM GULF SHORES TO ORANGE BEAST BEACH, DETROIT, TO OTHERS, BIG AND SMALL, TINY TOWNS, A VARIETY OF FOLKS HAD REPRESENTATION DURING THAT YEAR. IT COMES AND GO GOES BY CALENDAR YEAR, DEPENDING ON WHO IS DOING WHAT.

>> WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT THE CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE REPRESENTATION MIGHT BE AT A DISADVANTAGE TO THOSE THAT DO

HAVE REPRESENTATION? >> IT DEPENDS ON EACH CITIES UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES, SOME OF THEM ARE FIGHTING TO SPRINT LEGISLATIVE ISSUES, THEY HAVE SPECIAL LEGISLATION THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE. IT DEPENDS ON THE LENS OF THE CITY AND WHAT IS GOING ON FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES.

>> A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. WHAT SERVICES WOULD BRADLEY'S REPRESENTATION PROVIDE THAT OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIVISION IS UNABLE TO PROVIDE RIGHT NOW?

>> OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIVISION, AS A MEMO IN YOUR BINDERS COVERS, THEY TRACKED A LOT OF THE LEGISLATION THAT COMES AND GOES THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE. ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS, WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENCE IN MONTGOMERY YEAR ROUND AND WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT AT ALL THE ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, DIFFERENT GATHERINGS UP AND DOWN THE STATE. THIS PARTICULAR FIRM AND MANY OTHER LOBBYISTS ARE AND WHAT WE NEED IS OUR OWN LEGISLATURES, AND WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT -- RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, WE CAN COLLABORATE MUCH CAPITAL WE DON'T ALWAYS ASK THEM TO DO IS LOBBY OTHER LEGISLATORS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF AUBURN. THEY DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL EXPERTISE AND THAT IT IS OUR STAFF TO BREAK DOWN BILLS, LIKE THE MEDICAL CANNABIS BILL THAT WE DISCUSSED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS NOT EVIDENT IN THAT BILL IS, YOU HAVE TO OPT IN OR OUT OF THE DISPENSARIES , BUT THERE IS NO OPTING INTO THE OTHER PROCESSING AND SOME OF THAT GOES IN THAT IS ALLOWED BY STATE LAW, PERIOD. THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE, THIS ACTUALLY GIVES US MORE POWER ON-THE-FLY, SO BILLS CHANGE ON A DIME. THEY CHANGE WITHIN FOUR HOURS, OUR LEGISLATURES ARE GREAT ABOUT TEXTING US FROM THE FLOOR, BUT THERE ARE OTHER MOVING PARTS, SOMETIMES, IF WE RETAIN LOBBYISTS, WE HAVE AWARENESS OF CHANGES COMING BEFORE OUR LEGISLATORS. PART OF THIS IS INFORMATION, BUT OUR STAFF DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO LEGISLATORS OUTSIDE OF OUR DELEGATION, THEY CANNOT GO VISIT THEM IN THEIR OFFICES AND GET IN THE DOOR. AS A MATTER OF FACT, A LOT OF SIGNS ON THE DOOR, MOST LEGISLATORS SAY, IF YOU'RE NOT FROM THEIR DISTRICT, THEY MAY NOT BE EXCEPT BEING ACCEPTING PEOPLE, BUT LOBBYISTS DO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS AND CAN GET IN. I WANT TO MAKE SURE, AS THE SEVENTH LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE, THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES POSSIBLE TO OUR CITIZENS AND WE ARE ALSO VERY MUCH FIGHTING THE FRAGMENTATION OF THE AUTHORITY IN WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY OF AUBURN IS ERODING OVERTIME. BYLAW CHANGES, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE AS UP TO SPEED AS POSSIBLE, TO KEEP YOU INFORMED, TO KEEP OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION INFORMED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW IT IMPACTS THE CITY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE

CITY OF AUBURN AT ALL TIMES. >> WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT EVEN THE ITEM WE HAVE FURTHER IN OUR AGENDA, 9B, THAT SPEAKS TO THE REGULATION AND JURISDICTIONS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN, MAYBE, -- I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WORD. WE COULD HAVE HAD A LOT MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT IF WE HAD REPRESENTATION OUTSIDE OF OUR LEGISLATORS WHO I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO, DO AN AMAZING JOB REPRESENTING AUBURN AND OUR INTEREST, BUT THAT IS ONE AREA WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CREATING A LOT OF GRAY

LINES AND CONSERVATION. >> ABSENTLY, WE HAVE HAD MAJOR PROBLEMS IN THE POLICE AND PLANNING JURISDICTIONS, PLAYING JURISDICTION JUST SHRUNK IN JANUARY, IT HAS BEEN A BIG DEAL

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TO US. WE WERE NOT IN A POSITION TO KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS LEGISLATION, I MEAN, WE WERE TRACKING THE BILL, BUT THE INNER WORKINGS OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE BEING HAD, WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS BILL WAS COMING PRIOR TO THE SESSION. THERE ARE THINGS WERE PART OF DOING THIS, THIS IS A YEAR-ROUND ACTIVITY, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT BILLS ARE CIRCULATING, WHAT BILLS MAY DROP, CAN WE INFLUENCE THESE, TO GET THAT ONE SENTENCE IN THAT MAKES A BIG IMPACT FOR THE CITY OF AUBURN, THAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS. I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE, SOME OF THOSE THINGS, BELIEVE ME, OUR LOCAL LEGISLATORS TRY EVERYTHING TO ASSIST US IN ANY WAY THEY CAN AND ARE EXTREMELY COMMUNICATIVE. THIS IS ABOUT FAR MORE THAN OUR LOCAL LEGISLATORS, THIS IS ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THAT GROUP. IF THIS PERSON CAN BE AN ASSET OR THIS FIRM , TO THEM, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM TO HELP THE DELEGATION GET THINGS DONE BY PROVIDING ELLA MAE INFORMATION. THEY ARE WELCOME AT ANY TIME TO COLLABORATE TOGETHER ON OUR BEHALF. THAT IS IMPORTANT.

>> HASN'T THIS FIRM ALREADY BEEN GREAT VALUE TO US AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL BY HELPING US TO SECURE $3 MILLION IN

PREPARATIONS? >> $3 MILLION AND WE JUST GOT ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS COST OF $4 MILLION IN APPROPRIATIONS AND HAVE MORE TO COME AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. AT THE STATE LEVEL, YES, WE ARE AWARE OF GRANTS, NOT ALL OF THEM, AND THIS FIRM WOULD BE INVOKED TO HELP US MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT MISSING ANYTHING, THE DIVIDENDS ARE PAID IN MANY WAYS TO US. OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT COMES FROM THE LEGISLATIVE THINGS THAT THEY DO AND THE BILLS THAT THEY HELP US MODIFY OR UNDERSTAND BETTER OR DO THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE DONE FOR THE CITY OF AUBURN. I WANT TO REMIND YOU, A LOT OF YOU HAD A QUESTION LAST TIME, THE COUNCILMEMBERS THAT WERE DEALING WITH IT IS, WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE 7500? IT IS A MONTH TO MONTH CONTRACT AND WE CAN'T CANCEL IT, IF THE GOVERNING BODY COMES BACK, IF YOU APPROVE THIS AND SAYS TO ME, CITY MANAGER, WE WANT TO VOTE ON NOT CONTINUING, WE CAN CHOOSE TO NOT CONTINUE, BUT WE CAN'T JUMP IN AND OUT OF THE GAME. WE JUMPED IN FOR TWO MONTHS LAST YEAR, WHAT I MEAN IS, WE EITHER NEED TO SAY SOMEBODY REPRESENTS US OR THEY DON'T, BECAUSE THEY HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT THEY CANNOT REPRESENT AND THAT IS NOT -- IT'S A NORMAL THING TO DO THIS, BRADLEY ALSO REPRESENTS THE CITY OF TRUSTFUL. IT IS NORMAL TO DO THIS, TO THE EXPENSES, THERE ARE NO EXPENSES. WE HAVE BEEN CHARGED 04 EXPENSES, WHERE EXPENSES WOULD COME IN AND FEDERAL OR STATE IS WE ASKED THEM TO MAKE A SPECIFIC TRIP TO WASHINGTON, D.C. WITH US AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE THERE OTHERWISE. WE MIGHT PAY FOR TIME ON THAT, NOW, IF THEY ARE CONDUCTING BUSINESS FOR OTHER CITIES AND THINGS THAT GETS FRAGMENTED AT THE STATE LEVEL, WE WERE NOT CHARGING THE TWO MONTHS THAT WE PREVIOUSLY DID A CONTRACT, ONE NICKEL, FOUR EXPENSES. IF I ASKED THEM TO GO TO A MEETING IN FAIRHOPE, ONLY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, WE MIGHT PAY THOSE EXPENSES, BUT OTHERWISE, THEIR OFFICE IS IS IN BIRMINGHAM AND MONTGOMERY.

EXPENSES HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY ME AND I'M NOT APPROVING ANY EXPENSES THAT ARE NOT NECESSARY, NOR AM I ASKING THEM TO DO UNNECESSARY THINGS. I GET BILLED MONTHLY, THEY WOULD LET ME KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EXPENSE. THE LEGAL EXPERTISE IS PARAMOUNT AS A MANAGER, COUNCIL FORM OF GOVERNMENT IN A CLASSIC CITY, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT I CAN TELL OUR ENTIRE TEAM AND WE CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND HOW THIS LEGISLATION IMPACTS OUR DAILY OPERATIONS, HOW WE BOW GO ABOUT THINGS, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, SO WE DON'T MISS ANYTHING, BUT WE ALSO MAKE SURE WE ARE PROPERLY IN CEMENTING AND CEMENTING. WE HAVE AN INTERNAL LEGAL TEAM, BUT THAT IS NOT THEIR SOLE FOCUS, PROBABLY RECOMMEND BRADLEY REPRESENTS US, AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE POWERS AND I PRAY SEPARATELY FOR THOSE CONSTITUTIONAL

REPARATIONS. >> LASTLY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, SPEAK TO THE LEGAL MUNICIPALITIES AND ALABAMA ORGANIZATION THAT WE ARE PART OF AND HOW THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY LOBBYING ON OUR BEHALF, BUT AS A WHOLE FOR THE

ASSASSINATION ASSOCIATION. >> THAT'S ACCURATE. I WAS THE IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION OF ALABAMA, THAT IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION IN THE STATE, THAT GROUP DOES NOT DO ANY LOBBYING ON THE BEHALF OF THE CITY OF AUBURN, PERIOD. THEY DO LOBBYING ON BEHALF OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTEREST WITHIN THE STATE, MAINLY FOR LEGISLATIVE ITEMS INVOLVING INCENTIVES THAT

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IMPACT EVERY CITY AND COUNTY AND ENTITY IN THE STATE THAT IS DOING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT IS NOT A -- WE ARE NOT PAYING OUR MEMBERSHIP WE SEE FOR MANY OF THOSE THINGS, IT DOES ADVOCATE FOR THOSE INTERESTS, BUT IT IS NOT SPECIFICALLY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF AUBURN. IN FACT, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE GOT WORKING WITH OUR LEGISLATORS, SOMETHING STUCK INTO IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BILL, HANDLED BY PHILIP DUNLAP IN TEAM TO HELP THE CITY OF AUBURN FOR SPECIFIC INDUSTRIAL NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION DID NOT ADVOCATE FOR AMENDMENT, OUR LEGISLATORS DID AT OUR REQUEST. THEY DO ASSIST ON THINGS, THEY HAVE OVER 400 PLUS MEMBERS, TO SAY THAT WE COULD RELY ON THE -- TO TAKE THE CITY OF AUBURN'S INTEREST AND ADVANCE THAT WHEN THEY HAVE 400 OTHER CITIES TO ANSWER TO, WE CANNOT DO THAT. THEY DO LOBBY ON BEHALF OF BIG PICTURE, GREATER THINGS FOR CITIES, BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY

FOR WHAT WE NEED. >> IT'S BEEN SAID TONIGHT THAT THIS IS ABOUT SENATORS AND LEGISLATORS AND A LOT OF IT IS, BUT IT IS ALSO ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE DIVISION OF OUR STATE, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. WORKING WITH HER STAFF, IT IS ALSO ABOUT EVERY OTHER ENTITY IN OUR STATE THAT HAS A LOBBYING GROUP, WHETHER THAT IS TEACHERS, DOCTORS, HOSPITALS, HOMEBUILDERS, ROAD BUILDERS. YOU NAME IT, REALTORS. THEY ALL HAVE LOBBYING GROUPS. THAT ADVOCATE ON THEIR BEHALF. IT IS ALSO ABOUT STATE DEPARTMENTS, NO MATTER WHAT DEPARTMENT IT IS, IN THE STATE, IT'S ABOUT WORKING WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP AND WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE. IT IS ALSO ABOUT -- IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ABOUT 365 DAYS A YEAR. WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE HERE IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, THEY GET STARTED IN MONTGOMERY , IS A BUILDUP AND THE FINALITY OF WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON OVER THE LAST EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS AS LEGISLATURES AND LOBBYISTS AND COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN COMING TOGETHER AND PUTTING THEIR HEADS TOGETHER AND PUTTING THEIR PLANS, WHAT ARE OUR NEEDS? WHAT ARE OUR CONCERNS? WHAT WE WANT TO PUT INTO THE SESSION IN 2023? YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT PLAY OUT IN MONTGOMERY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT THERE HAS BEEN MEETING AFTER MEETING, WORK AFTER WORK GOING ON OVER THOSE TOPICS OVER THE LAST MONTHS. SO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS CONTINUOUSLY LOOKING OUT FOR US THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE MEETINGS, THAT IS LISTENING, STATEWIDE, AND HAS A PERSPECTIVE AND AN ABILITY TO GET IN THE DOOR AND PARTICIPATE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE WERE MAKING DECISIONS THAT COULD EVENTUALLY POTENTIALLY COME INTO OUR WORLD. COULD COME INTO CONFLICT FOR US OR BE AN ASSET TO US. YOU JUST NEVER KNOW, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING THE HARD WORK OUT THERE, LISTENING WELL ON OUR BEHALF. WE ARE THE SEVENTH BIGGEST CITY AND GROWING, IT HAS BEEN STATED, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US ARE IMMENSE, BUT I THINK IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE GOT TO BE PROTECTIVE AND, SOMETIMES, WE HAVE TO PLAY DEFENSE. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE ALL OF THE TOOLS THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX. YES, SIR ? AND THE QUESTIONS OF COUNCILMAN ADAMS AND WITTEN AND THE MAYOR. I THINK MOST OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERS, WITH POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF, HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO DRAFT LEGISLATION WITHOUT THE HELP OF A FIRM SUCH AS THIS?

>> EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. THE CITY DOES NOT DRAFT LEGISLATION, WE NEED A LEGAL TEAM TO DO THAT. I LEGISLATORS ALSO HAVE ASSISTANCE THROUGH THEIR OWN RESOURCES, AS GRANTED THAT THE STATE, THAT THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT DRAFT LEGISLATION FOR THEM, MEANING THAT THAT IS PART OF WHAT COMES OF THEIR ROLE. WE DON'T DRAFT LEGISLATION OURSELVES, WE CAN TELL SOMEBODY WHAT IDEA WE HAD, WE HAVE TO HAVE A LEGAL TEAM

DRAFT THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE YEAR-ROUND IMPORTANCE, THIS IS A MONTH TO MONTH CONFERENCE , BUT IT IS YEAR-ROUND, AS RON SAID. THERE ARE MEETINGS HAPPENING ALL THE TIME, I'M FROM MONTGOMERY, I WORKED IN A VERY REGULATED INDUSTRY IN THINKING. I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WILL BE LIKE IF WE DID NOT HAVE SOME LOBBYISTS HELPING US IN A LEGISLATIVE FIELD TO GET RID OF SOME OF THOSE REGULATIONS. IT HELPS TO HAVE THAT, THOSE MEETINGS ARE HAPPENING ALL THE TIME AND

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LIKE RON SAID, WHAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN IS A CULMINATION OF EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE SESSION ENDED LAST. SO I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE YEAR-ROUND ASPECT AND, AS WE GET TO THIS CONTRACT AGAIN LAST YEAR, WE CAN LOOK AND SEE THE RETURNS THAT WE'VE HAD ON THE MONEY THAT WE SPENT, NOT JUST ON THE DOLLARS AND CENTS STANDPOINT, BUT FROM A LEGISLATIVE STANDPOINT AND WHAT WE CAN SEE ON PAPER AND REALIZE WHAT WE'VE DONE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, SO I THINK IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO LOVE HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED IN MONTGOMERY, BUT THIS IS THE PART OF THE WAY IT'S PLAYED AND FOR US TO CROSS ARMS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE IT, I THINK WE ARE MISSING OUT ON THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY. FOR OUR SITTER REASONS CITIZENS HERE IN

AUBURN. >> I FORGOT TO MENTION, I HAVE TOTAL CONFIDENCE IN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ELECTED TO SERVICE IN MONTGOMERY. JOE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, HE'S BEEN GIVEN IN A GREAT COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT AND HE DOES A FANTASTIC JOB AND I AM EXCITED TO WATCH HIM SERVE US. I'M THANKFUL THAT HE CHOSE TO MAKE THIS A PART OF HIS LIFE. I AM ALSO TRANQUIL FOR PEOPLE LIKE PEBLEY MORIN AND RANDY PRICE, WHO REPRESENT PIECES OF US AND DO A GREAT JOB AND THEY ARE VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT WHAT IS IN AUBURN'S BEST INTEREST AND I'M TRANQUIL FOR

THEM AS WELL. >> THIS CAME UP LAST TIME I OPPOSED IT, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT LOBBYISTS ARE THE DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE. YOUR ABILITY TO DO A MONTH-TO-MONTH CONTRACT, WHAT IS YOUR ABILITY?

>> 40 $1400 . >> YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO

CONTRACT IT UNDER THAT LIMIT? >> I DID THAT IN THE SPRING OF

2022. >> YOU CAN PROCEED WITH THIS NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, IF YOU NEED SOMETHING IN THE NEAR TERM, WE TALK ABOUT THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.

>> I CAN ONLY DO TWO MONTHS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CHALLENGE I HAVE WITH THAT, AND I AGREE WITH YOU AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, WE CAN JUMP IN AND OUT OF THE GAME TWO MONTHS AT A TIME BECAUSE OF THE NATURE AND SESSIONS LAST DIFFERENT TIME FRAMES AND SOMEONE. SO IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, I NEED TO STICK WITH IT, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS, TO COUNCIL HIM PERSON COPELAND'S POINT, IF YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, WHAT ARE THE RESULTS OF THIS AND I PROVIDE THE RESULTS AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS SATISFACTORY TO YOU, WE HAVE THE ABILITY. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY AS WE DO, AND BOTH ARE FEDERAL AND THIS PROPOSED STATE CONTRACT TO EXIT AT ANY TIME. IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY WHERE YOU ARE NOT COMMITTED TO $90,000, YOU ARE ACTUALLY

COMMITTED TO $7500 A MONTH. >> IS THERE A MECHANISM THAT WE COULD PUT INTO PLACE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT A REVIEW PROCESS OCCURS 12 MONTHS FROM NOW. SHOULD THIS PASS? THAT WE DON'T TEST JUST KEEP ON GOING WITH THE BUSINESS OF GOVERNMENT AND FORGET THAT A REVIEW MAY BE NECESSARY? IS THERE SOME WAY THAT WE CAN LOCK IN, SAY, YOU KNOW, SHOULD IT BE VOTED THROUGH THE -- THAT WE DO ACTUALLY SET THAT TIME TO

REVIEW? >> I THINK IT IS A BEST PRACTICE, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND IF THE COUNCIL IS COLLECTIVELY ASKING THE CITY MANAGER ON BOTH OF THESE, WE WANT AN ANNUAL UPDATE, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO GIVE YOU AN ANNUAL REPORT ON IT AND WE ARE HAPPY TO THAT. I DON'T SEE THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE A FORMAL ACTION, IF YOU WANT TO REPORT ON WHAT WE ARE GOING ON, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT.

>> I WAS JUST THINKING, BOB, WHEN IS THE MOST IMPACTFUL TIME TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE A SESSION IN MARCH THAT WILL LAST THROUGH

MAY-ISH . >> WE CAN GET TO THE END OF SESSION, SO IT MAY NOT BE AT THE ONE-YEAR MARK, BUT LET'S PICK A GOOD TIME, AND OF SESSION AS WE CLOSE FEDERAL THINGS, I WILL WORK WITH OUR TEAM AND WE CAN ALSO, AT A GIVEN TIME, BRING THEM BEFORE YOU. THEY'RE HAPPY TO COME, NOT TO CONFUSE THINGS, BECAUSE IT SAYS J DAVIS STEWART, WE HAVE DAVE STEWART, THAT IS WHAT HE IS CALLED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND DAVID STEWART, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, BOTH WORKING FOR THE SAME FIRM, SO IT GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING. THEY'RE BOTH HAPPY TO COME AND TALK SO THAT WE CAN ALSO DO THAT , GLADLY.

>> I FEEL CONFIDENT YOU WOULD SHARE WITH US IF WE HAD SOME SUCCESSES THAT COME OUT OF THIS?

>> ABSOLUTELY. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THIS SESSION ALREADY AND A LOT THAT WAS PRE-CIRCULATING AND WE WILL, AND AS WE HAVE SHARED AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, IT IS THE CULMINATION OF OUR FEDERAL SIDE, WHICH IS

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DIFFERENT , BUT EVEN DOWN TO THE FEDERAL APPROPRIATIONS AREN'T STOPPING AT THIS TIME. I WILL VEHEMENTLY PURSUE EVERY NICKEL I CAN ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF AUBURN, PARTICULARLY AS BRADLEY ENGAGES TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO.

>> I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RELATIONSHIP OF IT, JUMPING IN AND OUT OF IT DOES NOT DO AS FAVORS IN THE LONG-TERM, AS OPPOSED TO BEING IN FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD, WHERE THEY ARE WORKING FOR US YEAR-ROUND. WHETHER WE KEEP GOING AFTER A YEAR OR NOT, IT IS LIKE HAVING A -- GUY, I WAS TEXTING MY GUY ON CHRISTMAS EVE AND HE WAS WILLING TO HELP ME WITH THE NEXT GUY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH ME. HE MAY NOT BE WILLING TO JUMP OFF OFF THE COUCH AND HELP ME. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS YEAR AND MAKE SURE IT IS STILL WORKING FOR US PROPERLY.

>> I AGREE AND UNDERSTAND, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE KEENLY AWARE THAT YOU ARE NOT COMMITTING YOURSELF TO ANYTHING BUT A MOTLEY MONTHLY CONTRACT IF YOU ADOPT THIS.

>> IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN SAY ABOUT THAT EXTRA $1 MILLION

THAT I HEARD? FROM THE FEDERAL? >> THAT'S CONGRESSMAN ROGERS, AGAIN, THAT IS NOT ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, THAT IS AN EXTRA MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS GOING BACK TO SOME INTERSTATE SAFETY ISSUES. SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS FOR THAT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THINGS LIKE THE OUTER LOOP, FUNDING FOR THAT, ANYTHING THAT FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR QUALIFY FOR, THEY MUST HAVE A REGIONAL IMPACT.

THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA LATER HAS A REGIONAL IMPACT IN THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING AT THE AUBURN CENTER. IT'S A REGIONAL THING, WHEN YOU DEAL WITH FEDERAL DOLLARS, MANY TIMES, IT MUST HAVE A REGIONAL IMPACT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO

[8.d.2. Carmichael Engineering, LLC. Professional Services Agreement. Lake Wilmore Park Community Center Project. $46,425.]

SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> MOTION CARRIES.

>> ITEM EIGHT D2. >> AND THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF

$46,425 PER >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. >> MR. SUNNY?

>> VERY EXCITING. I HAD ONE QUESTION THAT I CAN FIND FROM THE CITY'S WEBSITE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT ALL CITIZENS CAN GO AND LOOK AND SEE HOW THE PROJECTS ARE GOING, BUT I COULD NOT DETERMINE IF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT HAD

BEEN AWARDED AT THIS TIME. >> YES, THAT WAS AWARDED TO BAILEY HARRIS CONSTRUCTION AND I HAVE SIGNED THAT CONSTRUCTION

CONTRACT THIS WEEK. >> IS THERE A START DATE

MENTIONED ? >> WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE FULL CONTRACTUAL PHASE, LIKE I SAID, I JUST SIGNED THOSE CONTRACTS, THE CITY ENGINEER IS LOOKING AT ME, SHE DOESN'T HAVE THEM BACK AT HER DESK, THEY WENT TO THE CITY CLERK TODAY AND THEY WILL BE BACK IN HER OFFICE TOMORROW. THAT IS PART OF THAT, THERE IS INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S A LOT OF HIGH DONNING AND KEY CROSSING, BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE .

>> THAT TAKES AT LEAST 30 DAYS. IT'S GOING TO BE , IN ADDITION TO THE CONTRACT, WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET OUR

STORMWATER PERMIT. >> THAT IS ISSUED IN THE NAME OF THE CONTRACTOR. THE CONTRACTOR WON'T TYPICALLY PULL THAT UNTIL THEY HAVE SIGNED CONTRACTS. AT LEAST 30 DAYS.

QUESTION? WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE

[8.d.3. Spectrum Enterprise. Execute a three (3) year contract to upgrade the City's existing Spectrum Enterprise fiber internet service from 500Mbps to 1Gbps. $1,749 per month.]

SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

>> A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT WITH SPECTRUM CENTER'S HIGHEST TO EXECUTE A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT TO UPGRADE THE CITY'S EXISTING SPECTRUM ENTERPRISE INTERNET SERVICE FROM 500 MEGABYTES TO ONE GIGABYTE, THIS'LL REPRESENT A SAVINGS OF $1500 PER MONTH, WE ARE DOUBLING OUR SPEED OF OUR INTERNET AND

SITTING $1000 PER MONTH. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> YOU SAID WE ARE SAVING

$1000 MY MONTH? >> OVER THE LIFE OF THE CONTRACT. WE ARE JUST DOUBLING OUR INTERNET SPEED.

>> THIS IS THE TOTAL COST PER MONTH, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> OF THIS PARTICULAR SERVICE. THIS IS THE WHOLE COST, IS THAT CORRECT? 2 $1749 PER MONTH IT WILL BE OUR MONTHLY

PAYMENT. >> THAT'S A LOT MORE THAN MY INTERNET BILL, BUT IT IS A HUGE, HUGE THING FOR THE WHOLE CITY , FOR THE WHOLE CITY STAFF, THAT'S PRETTY

IMPRESSIVE. >> WE HAVE OTHER PROVIDERS FOR REDUNDANCY REASONS, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY. MOTION TO

[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA]

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SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> MOTION CARRIES. TO HAVE A

[9.a. Execute a quit claim deed. Jose Goes Vasconcelos and Denise Perigolo Vasconcelos. Property located at 407 Phillips Avenue. Unanimous consent necessary.]

MOTION TO SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION

CARRIES. >> UNDER ORDINANCES THIS EVENING, ITEM NINE A AUTHORIZES THE EXECUTION OF A QUITCLAIM DEED, FOR JOSE GOES VASCONCELOS, AT ADAMS AVENUE.

>> I ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

>> SECOND. >> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

THANK YOU. >> I NOTED IN THE WRITEUP THAT THE CITY PURCHASED THIS IN 1966 AND THEN IT WAS REDEEMED BY MISS LINCOLN BUT NOT RECORDED. WHEN SHE REDEEMED IT, WAS THE CITY COMPENSATED FOR WHATEVER WE SPENT TO PURCHASE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?

>> I DON'T HAVE A MEMBER OF OUR LEGAL TEAM HERE, WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN, BASED ON LAWS AT THAT TIME, AS FAR AS I KNOW.

BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME TO ME, SAYING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS BEEN ASKING THAT WE HAVE NO DIRECT INTEREST AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, WE DON'T SHOW UP AS THE EINAR.

THIS PROPERTY? THE CITY PURCHASED IT WITH TAX DOLLARS AND WE DON'T KNOW IF WE -- WHAT WE PAID OR WHEN WE PAID, BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN REIMBURSED FOR ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE SPENT ON THIS PROPERTY? SO WE ARE GOING TO GIVE UP A PIECE OF

CITY-OWNED PROPERTY? >> WHEN IT WAS REDEEMED, WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN OUR MONEY BACK.

>> SHOULD HAVE. >> I CANNOT CONFIRM. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE DOCUMENTATION.

>> MARIE COMPENSATED FOR WHEN WE --

>> YOU CAN'T INVOKE YOUR RIGHT OF REDEMPTION AND NOT PAY

ANYTHING. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COMPARES TO WHAT THE CITY SPENT TO PURCHASE IT IN THE FIRST

PLACE. >> IF I MAY, IT IS A GOOD WRITE UP, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED IS IN THE WRITEUP, IT APPEARS WE ARE NOT GIVING ANYTHING AWAY AND WE ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ANYTHING. THE PROPERTY WAS FORECLOSED ON. BECAUSE OF SOME WORK THAT THE CITY DID FOR WATERLINE WORK, SO APPARENTLY WAS SHE WAS UNABLE TO PAY AND THE CITY HAD TO FORECLOSE TO GET THOSE DAUGHTERS. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? DID WE GET THOSE DOLLARS? APPARENTLY NOT BECAUSE IT WAS A FORECLOSURE AND SHE HAD A ONE-YEAR RIGHT OF REDEMPTION, WHICH MEANS THAT SHE HAD TO TAKE IT TO COURT WITHIN A YEAR.

>> HAD TO PAY EVERYTHING. >> AND IN ORDER TO GET HER PROPERTY BACK, SHE HAD TO HAVE PAID EVERYTHING THAT WAS DUE AT THAT TIME, THAT IS WHAT THE RIGHT OF REDEMPTION IS ALL ABOUT. SO SHE EXERCISED HER RIGHT, AND GOT A DEED, BUT SHE

DIDN'T FILE THE DEED. >> THAT I DO NOT KNOW, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT OUR LEGAL TEAM BROTHERS AT THEIR REQUEST AND TOLD ME EVERYTHING WAS ACCEPTABLE FROM THEIR LENS, SO I'LL RELY UPON THAT. THEY DID THE WHOLE WRITEUP FOR THE AGENDA, DIRECTLY FROM THEM, SO I RELIED ON THEM THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE TAKING CARE OF OR THEY WOULD NOT BE ASKING ME TO BRING FORWARD YOU A QUITCLAIM DEED.

>> IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY, AT THIS TITLE WORKS, IF A DEED DID NOT GET RECORDED, SOMETHING DIDN'T GET CLEARED COST OF THIS IS, BASICALLY, ALLOWING THEM A CLEAR TITLE TO THE PROPERTY, OBVIOUSLY, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN RUDE REDEEMED, JUST A MISHAP THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THAT CHAIN OF THE TITLE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ACCIDENTAL, THEY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO, AN ATTORNEY DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO AT SOME POINT, IT'S OBVIOUSLY JUST A CLEARING OF TITLE, SO I WOULD IMAGINE, ON A CITY LEVEL, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CLEARING TITLE. SO THAT WE CAN ALLOW THEM TO PURCHASE OR DO

WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT, HOW THAT REDEMPTION WORKS, INSTANTLY SAYS, THE CITY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AT A FORECLOSURE SALE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE REDEMPTION INCLUDED REPAYMENT TO THE CITY FOR WHATEVER WE PAID OR NOT. I AM ASSUMING, FROM WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THAT IS NORMALLY THE

CASE? >> YES.

>> OKAY. >> THE CITY ATTORNEYS WOULD HAVE ADVISED ME IF THERE WAS ANY DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WAS DUE TO US SOMEHOW, THEY DID NOT MENTION THAT, SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE MOVING THIS FORWARD.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THIS IS AN EVENT THAT

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HAPPENED IN 1966, CORRECT? DO WE HAVE RECORDS THAT GO BACK

THAT FAR, MEGAN, DO YOU KNOW? >> IN TITLE, THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN WHAT THEY NEEDED TO SEE, THIS IS NOT OUT OUR REQUEST, THEY ARE WANTING TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

>> HANDLE. >> THANK YOU.

>> HE MIGHT BE LISTENING, TOMMY.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, WE WILL DO THE ROLL CALL.

>> ADAMS? >> YES.

>> GRISWOLD ? >> YES, MA'AM.

[9.b. Amend City Code. Chapters 1, 12, 13, 22. Regulation of police jurisdictions. nanimous consent necessary.]

>> TAYLOR? >> YES.

>> ITEM NINE BE AMENDS CHAPTERS 1, 12, 13 AND 22 OF THE CITY CODE TO UPDATE REGULATIONS REGARDING POLICE JURISDICTIONS IN THE CITY OF HALLIBURTON AUBURN, UNANIMOUS

CONSENT IS NECESSARY. >> I WILL INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE AND ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, ANY NUMBERS WITH A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD ON A BOAT THIS EVENING? IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> MEGAN, CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE? FROM DAVID DORTON, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS CLEANING UP OUR REGULATIONS IN CITY CODE TO MATCH WITH THE NOW PAST STATE LAW SAYS NOW THAT WE ARE DONE WITH RETRACTIONS, I THINK, TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY, OUR POLICE JURISDICTION IS NOW FROZEN AT THREE MILES FROM THE CITY LIMITS AS THEY WERE IN JANUARY OF 2021. WHEN WE ANNEX PROPERTY, OR POLICE JURISDICTION NO LONGER GROWS THE BOUNDARY DOESN'T GO ANY FURTHER, BUT IT DOES ENCOMPASS THAT PROPERTY. AT SOME POINT, THE CITY LIMITS WILL CATCH UP TO THE POLICE JURISDICTION AND WHAT THAT WOULD LEAVE ARE TWO THINGS, COUNTY ISLANDS, WHICH WE WOULD STILL CONTROL, BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE WITHIN OUR ORIGINAL BOUNDARIES, AND WE CAN MAKE AGREEMENTS WITH THE LEE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PATROL OTHER AREAS, MATTHEW IS CORRECT, YES. THAT'S THING ONE, ARE PLANNING JURISDICTION HAS STRUNK AS OF JANUARY 2023, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 1.1 MILES.

THAT WILL GROW AS -- THAT ONE .5 MILES, EVERY TIME HE MOVED THE CITY LIMITS LINE, IT IS ONE .5 MILES FROM THE CURRENT CITY

LIMITS. >> BUT THE POLICE JURISDICTION

DOES NOT? >> NO, NOT ACCORDING TO THE SPILL. SOME OF THIS, BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE, WAS ABOUT TAXATION AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR BIG STICKING POINTS.

OTHER THAN CIGARETTES AND GASOLINE, WE DO NOT TAX ANYONE FOR ANY REASON IN THE POLICE JURISDICTION, SO THAT IS ONE OF THOSE BILLS THAT WE GOT RUNG UP IN AN HOUR POLICE HAVE LONG BELIEVED THAT THEY WANTED TO PATROL A LARGER POLICE JURISDICTION AND, WILL, DO YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT AS TO THE

WHY A LITTLE BIT? >> THE MAIN REASON WE HAVE A POLICE JURISDICTION IS TO COVER THOSE ADJACENT AREAS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE CITY ANNEXES, WE HAVE A LOT OF POCKETS OF IN AND OUT OF INCORPORATED AREAS. IT MAKES SENSE FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO CONTINUE TO PATROL THOSE AREAS AND HAVE ENFORCEABLE POWERS IN THOSE AREAS. BECAUSE IT MAY BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN ANNEX PROPERTY, YOU WILL HAVE AN UN-ANNEXED PROPERTY. IT'S JUST EFFICIENT.

>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOME TIME TO CLEAN UP CITY CODE TO MATCH THIS AND WE ARE WAITING TO PAST THE JANUARY DEADLINE, WHERE THE PLANE PLANNING JURISDICTION

STRUNK FOR THE LAST TIME. >> HE SAID WE COLLECT GAS AND TOBACCO TAXES, THERE IS NOT ANY LOSS OF ANY OF OUR POINTS OF SALE BECAUSE OF THIS, RIGHT?

>> ABSOLUTELY, THERE WOULD BE.

>> I MEAN, EXISTING ONES? >> YES BECAUSE THE JURISDICTIONS HAVE SHRUNK, CORRECT. BECAUSE WE HAVE LOST DISTANCE, YES, THIS BILL HAS CAUSED US -- IT'S NOT

SIGNIFICANT REVENUE. >> WE WENT FROM 145 DOWN TO

THREE? >> YES, BUT IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REVENUE. ABSOLUTELY, WE ARE ALSO NOT ABLE TO, UNLESS WE HAVE OTHER ARRANGEMENTS, PATROL IN THOSE

AREAS ANYMORE EITHER. >> I WAS SURPRISED WHEN ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE TAXES EARLIER THIS WEEK, 400,000 OR

SOMETHING, RIGHT? >> THE POLICE JURISDICTION PLUS THE CITY LIMITS, YEAH, THAT'S ALL OF IT.

>> THIS DOESN'T MENTION TOBACCO ANYWHERE IN THIS THING, IS THAT AN OMISSION OR SOMETHING THAT IS COVERED SOMETHING ELSE THAT

WE CAN TAX TOBACCO? >> YES, THAT IS AND STATE

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CODE. >> ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, THE ROLL CALL.

>> DAWSON? >> YES COMMENT.

>> TAYLOR? >> YES.

>> ADAMS? >> YES.

[10.a.1. Department of Housing and Urban Development. FY2022 Community Project Funding Grant Agreement for $3 million awarded through the Consolidated Appropriations Act. Auburn Center for Developing Industries (ACDI) expansion.]

>> ITEM 10 A1 AUTHORIZES THE EXECUTION OF THE COMMUNITY FUNDING AGREEMENT FOR $3 MILLION AWARDED THROUGH THE CONSOLIDATED APPROPRIATIONS ACT FOR AN EXPANSION AT THE AUBURN CENTER FOR DEVELOPING INDUSTRIES.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM

THE COUNCIL? >> MEGAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE USE OF HUD AS THE CONDUIT FOR THIS MONEY COMING FROM -- THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? >> THIS IS A FUNCTION OF OUR FEDERAL LOBBYIST, WHICH WE CALL FEDERAL GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS, THIS IS, WE GOT AN APPLICATION IN THANKS TO OUR LOBBYIST, ON THE LAST HOUR OF THE LAST DAY WILL BE RETAINED THEM, INITIALLY, THIS WAS , LITERALLY, WE HAD TO MOVE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN PURSUING FUNDING SOURCES FOR A WHILE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN YOU GET FEDERAL PREPARATIONS TO THIS PARTICULAR ACT, THE CONDUIT AGENCY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL IS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. WHILE THAT AGENCY ALSO HELPS WITH OUR BLOCK GRANT AND MANY OTHER GRANTS, THESE ARE COMPLETELY UNRELATED AND THIS PARTICULAR GRANT IS ONLY ALLOCATED FOR THIS SPECIFIC PURPOSE AS PUT IN OUR GRANT APPLICATION FOR AN EXPANSION AT THE AUBURN CENTER FOR DEVELOPING INDUSTRIES. THAT IS THE REASON HEAD IS THERE, THEY ARE THE CONDUIT FOR GRANT PAPERWORK.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE

SAY AYE. I APOLOGIZE. >> AM A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE USE OF THE MONEY . IT'S GOING TO BE FOR A BUSINESS

CENTER? >> IT'S FOR A BRAND-NEW BUILDING OUR AUBURN CENTER FOR DEVELOPING INDUSTRIES, WHICH IS OFF OF 1500 PUMPHREY IN AVENUE. HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS INCUBATOR, WE HAVE INCUBATING VARIOUS BUSINESSES, OVER 30 YEARS OR MORE. PHILIP, IF YOU WANT TO GET UP AND TALK, IF YOU DON'T MIND, ABOUT THE NEW CENTER, JUST A LITTLE MORE

INFORMATION. >> SURE. FOR THE LAST -- FOR GOOD? FOR THE LAST 2 1/2 YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE SCHOOL OF ENGINEERING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURING TRAINING, PARTICULARLY CNC MACHINING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT, BUT IT IS PRODUCT PROJECT M AND G, CHRIS ROBERTS AND HIS STAFF, KIND OF, PUT TOGETHER A TEAM APPROACH. THIS IS A MAJOR PARTNERSHIP, PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH PRESS AS PEOPLE WOULD LIKE US TO DO, BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS VERY UNIQUE. IT IS PROBABLY THE MOST SOPHISTICATED MACHINING CENTER OUTSIDE OF NASA IN THE WHOLE STATE AND WE'VE GOT EVERY KIND OF MACHINE YOU COULD IMAGINE FROM THE MG, HAAS, SO WE ARE DOING A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL TRAINING FOR COMPANIES, AS WELL AS UNIVERSITY STUDENTS. SO WE DO UPGRADE TRAINING, WE ARE NOT A JUNIOR COLLEGE , A JUNIOR COLLEGE DOES THAT, BASIC MACHINING, BUT WE DO UPGRADE, WE TAKE SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTANDS PRODUCTION MACHINING, WE CAN THEN PUT THEM ON A FIVE AXIS MACHINE, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, TO DO VERY SOPHISTICATED ADVANCED MANUFACTURING TECHNIQUES. WE ALSO HOUSE IN THE CENTER, THE UNIVERSITY HAS THIS MACHINE, ONE OF ONLY TWO OF THREE WATER JET CUTTERS IN THE ENTIRE STATE, VERY ADVANCED TECHNOLOGICAL EQUIPMENT TO DOING PRECISION CUTTING. WHAT WE HAD A NEED FOR IS A CENTERPIECE WHERE WE COULD DO CONFERENCES AND MORE CLASSROOM TYPE INSTRUCTION. WE STARTED WORKING ON A CONCEPT OF DIVINING DESIGNING A CENTER, A BUSINESS CENTER, WOULD SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PARKING AREA. IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH ACDI , THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED CONFERENCES DEALING WITH SOPHISTICATED ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, ADDITIVE MANUFACTURING, OTHER TECHNIQUES, SO OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE A TRAINING CENTER THAT WILL ENHANCE OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE AS A TECHNOLOGY CENTER. THE VISION FOR US IS NOT JUST TO BE A WIDGET ASSEMBLER OPERATION.

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OUR GOAL IS TO MOVE AUBURN INTO MORE AND MORE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCED MANUFACTURING. SOME OF THE COMPANIES WE HAVE ANNOUNCED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE ARE NOT AFTER SOMEBODY TO CREATE 500 JOBS, SONNY, WE ARE AFTER PEOPLE WHO CREATES 50, 60, 70 HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED ADVANCED TECHNICAL JOBS. THAT'S OUR GOAL AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, THIS MONEY WILL BE USED TO BUILD AND EQUIP THAT ENHANCED CAPABILITY FOR TRAINING.

>> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR.

>> I THINK COUNCILPERSON MOREMAN HAS BEEN ASKING FOR A TOUR OF THE FACILITY, WE WILL GLADLY TOUR WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND GO OVER EVERYTHING ELSE. ADVANCED MANUFACTURING CENTER, PHILIP TALKS IN ENGINEERING SPEAK ABOUT FOUR AND FIVE AXIS MACHINES, IT'S FUN IF WE ALL LOOK LIKELY TO HAVE A BUNCH OF ENGINEERS THAT DO UNDERSTAND THIS. IT'S MUCH EASIER TO EXPLAIN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MACHINE, WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS. DON'T FEEL GUILTY, I HAD A 20 PLUS YEAR LEARNING CURVE

[10.a.2. Floyd Service Company, Inc. Contract. Traffic Signal Installations (AL Highway 14 at Webster Road/ AL Highway 14 at Will Buechner Parkway) Project. $599,900.]

ABOUT THESE THINGS. I UNDERSTAND.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, ANY IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

>> WE AUTHORIZE A CONTRACT WITH FLOYD SERVICE COMPANY FOR ALABAMA HIGHWAY 14 AT WEBSTER ROAD AND ANOTHER SINGER SIGNAL AT ALABAMA HIGHWAY 14 OF BUCHER PARKWAY. AT THE AMOUNT OF

$599,900. >> MOTION.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? ALL

[12. CITIZENS’ OPEN FORUM.]

IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

>> MAYOR, THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OR BEEN FOR HIM. PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, A MEMBER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND REMEMBER TO ADDRESS YOUR

COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. >> GOOD EVENING, SUSAN BOLD, EAST UNIVERSITY DRIVE, I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND MEGAN FOR YOUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT. ON EIGHT D1. WHAT A PHENOMENAL AMOUNT OF INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE CITIZENS AND IT'S OBVIOUS YOU HAVE A GREAT COMMAND OF KNOWLEDGE IN THAT AREA, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. AND THE ANSWERS THAT WERE PRESENTED. I WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO YOUR LAST MEETING, WHERE Y'ALL PASSED THE BUSINESS LICENSE REVOCATION ORDINANCE, AMENDED, AND I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. I KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, Y'ALL ARE SPENDING A GREAT AMOUNT OF EFFORT, TIME, FIELDING A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM YOUR CITIZENS, AND IT TAKES UP A LOT OF TIME. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT, I KNOW IT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. WHO WILL BE NEXT?

>> HI, I'M STAN REEVES, I LIVE AT 2137 CONSERVATION DRIVE AND I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR SERVICE. I AM HERE TO EXPRESS CONCERN OVER REGULAR ENTRENCHED ABUSES THAT I SEE HAPPENING ON THE PART OF STUDENT RENTAL REAL ESTATE COMPANIES IN THE CITY OF AUBURN. THERE IS A POWER IMBALANCE ON THE SIDE OF RENTERS -- ON THE SIDE OF THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS OVER STUDENTS THAT IS HARD TO JUSTIFY. AND HARD TO IGNORE. MOST STUDENTS ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF AUBURN, THEIR PARENTS DON'T LIVE IN TOWN, THEY CAN'T EASILY WALK INTO AN OFFICE AND CONFRONT SOMEONE WHO IS BEING UNREASONABLE. MANY OF OUR STUDENTS ARE INTERNATIONALS WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR SYSTEM AND HOW IT WORKS. I HAVE SEEN THIS SITUATION FOR MANY YEARS AS AN ACADEMIC SUPERVISOR OF INTERNATIONAL GRADUATE STUDENTS, AND I HAVE SEEN IT UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL WITH FOUR CHILDREN TOO FAR, HAVING ATTENDED AUBURN AND HAVING BEEN SUBJECTED TO UNREASONABLE POLICIES, FRAUDULENT MOVEOUT, INSPECTION CLAIMS AND UNRESPONSIVENESS TO MAINTENANCE REQUESTS. AS LONG AS WE ALLOW THESE COMPANIES TO IMPOSE UNFAIR PRACTICES ON STUDENTS, WE MAKE FOR A NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS RESIDENCE AND WE MAKE OUR CITY LOOK BAD. MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE PENALTY RENTAL COMPANIES, STUDENTS ARE REQUIRED TO PLAY TO PAY A FULL 12 MONTH READ, YOU WOULD THINK THAT MEANS THEY GET TO STAY THERE FOR 12 MONTHS, BUT THAT IS NOT TRUE. THEY CLAIMED THAT THEY NEED THE FIRST WEEK OR TWO OF AUGUST TO MAINTAIN THE APARTMENTS BEFORE STUDENTS CAN MOVE IN, AND THAT MIGHT BE UNDERSTANDABLE IF THE STUDENTS WERE PAYING NOT FOR THAT TIME, BUT THEY PAY FOR THE FULL