[ROLL CALL]
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>> THE CLOCK ON MY ARM IT 5 O'CLOCK.
AND TO BEGIN THE JUNE MEETING OF THE AUBURN PLANNING COMMISSION. I CALL IT TO ORDER.
AND ASK THE SECRETARY TO CALL THE ROLL.
>> BOB. >> WENDY BIRMING HOME.
>> WE HAVE A KWAURM. WE WILL BE ABLE TO CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS. THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE HERE ON A VERY HOT AFTERNOON. I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO THE CITY BUSINESS AND IT IS EVERYONE'S BUSINESS IN THE
COMMUNITY. >> WE HAVE A PART ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU WISH TO BRING SOMETHING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND GET THIS BEFORE US? ANYONE WITH COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, YOU WOULD LIKE TO RAISE?
>> I SEE NO ONE. WE WILL MOVE ON.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
>> THERE IS NO BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
>> WE WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THE ITEMS THAT INVOLVE OUR PACKET MEETINGS, REGULAR MEETINGS AND THINGS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. WE SHALL ASK IF THERE IS ANYONE HAS ANY AGENDA ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA YOU WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FOR DISCUSSION? I SEE NO ONE. IS THERE ANYONE TO APPROVE?
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE AND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[2. Preliminary Plat - Tuscany Hills - Phase 5B - Public Hearing]
>> ALL OPPOSED SAY NO. >> THE CONSENT AGENDA IS
APPROVED. >> THE NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE TO ITEMS, ONE IS A PRELIMINARY PLAT, 5 B.
>> GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A PLAT APPROVAL FOR SUBDIVISION 17 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS AND TWO LOTS DEDICATED TO OPEN SPACE. PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHERN PART OF SOPHIA COURT AND NEAR 5 A.
WHICH IS RIGHT THERE. A REQUEST FOR AN APPROVAL TO DIVIDE THE ACRES TO A SUBDIVISION OF TWO OF THEM ARE DEDICATED TO OPEN SPACE AND IT MEETS ALL REGULATIONS. THERE ARE NO COMMENTS TO
IS THERE ANYONE REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER WISH TO BRING
>> I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
WE APPROVED THIS PREVIOUSLY. ANY CHANGES THAT ARE
IT WAS A CONVENTIONAL SUBDIVISION AND NOW IT IS A PERFORMANCE. THERE WAS ONE CONDITION FOR THE SUB-OUT AND THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? >> I'M GOOD.
>> ALL RIGHT, THEN, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A MOTION? >> I'M SORRY.
I WAS MOVING TOO QUICKLY. I SAW THE END OF THE AGENDA TOO SOON
>> THIS DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING, AND I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW. WOULD ANYONE WISH TO COMMENT ON THE PROPOSAL, COME FORWARD NOW.
>> I THINK THERE ARE 7 HOMEOWNERS.
>> I WILL NEED YOU TO SIGN IN.
VERY GOOD. >> I'M VICKI LOGAN.
I HAVE TWO HOUSES THAT I RENT IN TUSK KNEE HILLS, AND THERE IS A BACK UP OF THE NEW SUBDIVISION IN THERE.
AND SOME OF OUR CONCERNS, ONE OF MY CURRENT TENANTS, AND HE JUST SENT THIS TO ME, I APOLOGIZE.
HE IS A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, GRADUATED FROM AUBURN.
I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A WATERSHED.
HE SAID I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT ENVIRONMENTALISTS WILL ALLOW
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AN IMPACT TO IT. REGARDING THE CREEK.I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S HIS COMMENT.
THEY HAVE RECENTLY COMPLETED 6 HOUSES ON A CUEND THERE.
SO THE WATER IS RUNNING DOWN FROM THE NEW 6 HOUSES TO US AT THE END AND IT IS JUMPING OFF THE DRIVEWAY, WE HAVE A BACK LOADING HOUSES. THE DRIVEWAYS ARE ON THE BACK. THERE'S NO CITY DRAINAGE LIKE ON THE FRONT. THE WATER IS COMING DOWN THE DRIVEWAY AND IT IS SLOWLY GOING TO EACH HOUSE.
OKAY? WHICH WILL CAUSE FOUNDATION
CAUSES OVER TIME. >> NOW, WE HAVE A MS. KATHLEEN HERE. SHE CAN SPEAK TO THE PROBLEM. I THINK THERE WAS A RETENTION POND, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE WORD IS.
THE WATER AND THE CLAY IS JUMPING THE RETENTION POND AND GOING INTO HER DRIVEWAY. I THINK SOMEONE TOOK PICTURES OF WHAT IS STOPPING THE WATER.
YOU HAVE THIS NEW CULL DESAC COMING DOWN.
WE ARE AT THE BOTTOM AS YOU COME ALL THE WAY DOWN.
AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW HIGH POINT IN THE NEW SUBDIVISION OVER THE NEW CULL DESAC, AND THE WATER MAY COME DOWN TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE, POSSIBLY US.
THE PINE TREES WILL BE WELCOME TO SLOW DOWN THE
>> IT SLOWS DOWN THE WATER. WOULD YOU HAVE IT SEEPING INTO YOUR HOUSE? THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES.
PRE-AND POST-BLASTING. I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY ONE OF THE HOA BOARD MEMBERS THAT THERE HAS BEEN FOUNDATION PROBLEMS IN THE HILLS AREA FROM THE BLASTING, FOUNDATIONS DAMAGES. MS. KATHLEEN SAYS SHE FELT HER HOUSE SHAKING. THE QUESTIONS ARE TO HALLIE FREEMEN. WHAT ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE DRAINAGE AND THE PRE-AND POST BLASTING.
IT IS NOT LIKE IT IS A CLAY DIRT.
THIS IS SOLID ROCK. IF YOU SAW IT WHEN THEY BLASTED BEFORE, IT IS BOLDERS.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BOLDERS AS BIG AS A CAR OR BOULDERS AS BIG AS A CAR OR BETTER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC WILL COME INTO THE SUBDIVISION, AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE ROAD, POST, AND HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION? I MEAN 17 HOUSES AT 5-6 HOUSES, IS THAT 3-4 YEARS? DOWN THE ROAD? SO, THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF OUR CONCERNS. DOES THE BUILDER PUT IN THE
SIDEWALKS AND LIGHTING? >> YES.
YES. >> MAIN THING THAT THE HOA DOESN'T HAVE TO PICK UP THE AFTERMATH AFTER THE BUILDING LEAVES, CLEANING UP AND MAINTAINING.
LIKE THERE'S AN AREA BETWEEN THE TWO CULL DE SACS THERE.
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? >> THE HOMEOWNERS ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. >> THE PROPERTY WILL BE
TRANSFERRED TO HOA. >> THE HOMEOWNERS
ASSOCIATION WILL. >> AND DOES THIS MAP SHOW WHERE THE TWO GREEN SPACES ARE GOING TO BE?
THE UPSIDEDOWN HORSESHOE AND HERE.
>> IT IS THE AREA. >> IT IS WHERE?
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THE AREA THAT IS SURROUNDING?>> YEAH, RIGHT THERE. >> MY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER FRIEND WAS SAYING THE NEW HOUSE SAYS WILL BE SLOPED TOWARDS THE ROAD? GRADED TOWARDS THE ROAD? IF WE HAVE PROBLEMS FROM THE WATER COMING DOWN THE JUST FINISHED LOTS, THE 6 LOTS, ARE WE HAVING MORE WATER COMING DOWN OFF OF THE NEW BUILD?
IT IS A HIGHER GROUND TOO. >> WE WILL ASK OUR ENGINEERS WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED AND WE WILL GET IT ANSWERED THE
HE WOULD'VE BEEN HERE BUT HE HAS GOT A CONVENTION TO GO TO IN HIGHLANDS, NORTH CAROLINA.
THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK TOO.
>> YOUR TWO MINUTES ARE BASICALLY UP.
>> OH, I TOOK 10. >> I DIDN'T WANT TO BE TOO
HEAVY-HANDED. >> WE HAVE ISSUES WE NEED TO QUICKLY DISCUSS. THE DRAINAGE, THE BLASTING AND THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC.
I THINK WE CAN ANSWER MOST OF THOSE.
>> I LIVE, I HAVE A HOUSE NEXT TO VICKI.
I HAVE GOT SOME PICTURES I WILL SHARE WITH YOU ALL, IF
YOU DON'T MIND. >> -- THE PICTURE OF THE SAME AREA -- (TALKING AWAY FROM THE MIC).
>> SIR? >> IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SPEAKING IN THE MIC, SO THIS COULD BE CAUGHT FOR THE RECORD AND THOSE LISTENING ONLINE?
>> SURE. >> THE PICTURES THERE --
>> MY MAIN CONCERN -- THAT AREA NEXT TO THE HOUSES AND NEXT TO THE HOUSES AND THAT THEY HAVE BUILT THERE.
THERE IS NO SPACE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GET TO THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT. THERE WAS NO MUCH CONCERN FOR THE NEIGHBORS THERE WHEN THEY DID THAT.
IT IS VERY UNSIGHTLY. >> ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION THAT THEY CAN HAVE RECOURSE REGARDING THE WHAT WAS NOT DONE, OR THE OFF SIGTES, AND WHAT WAS DONE BY THE DEVELOPERS.
ONCE THE CITY APPROVED THE PLATS AND THEY HAVE BEEN -- AND THAT PART OF THE SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN FINALLY
APPROVED, HAS IT NOT? >> IF THERE ARE HOMES OCCUPIED, YES, THEY HAVE RECEIVED APPROVAL.
>> THEY ARE OCCUPIED. >> THEY HAVE MEET THE
REQUIREMENTS ON DRAINAGE. >> ARE THEY BONDED FOR LONG-TERM? FOR DAMAGE LIKE, IF --
>> NOT LONG-TERM. >> THEY ARE BONDED TO MAKE SURE THEY PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN AS ENGINEERED AND AS WE APPROVED.
AND THAT IS BONDED, IF THEY DON'T DO IT, THE CITY WILL DO IT BY CASHING IN THE BONDS.
>> WHAT IF WE HAVE DAMAGE AFTER?
>> YOU HAVE RECOURSE LIKE CIVIL COURT.
>> THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CARE --
>> I DON'T THINK THE BOND IS, YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO AN ATTORNEY. I'M SPEAKING FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. OUR ATTORNEY IS NOT HERE.
THE PREVIOUS WORK, THE PREVIOUS SUBDIVISION OR THE PREVIOUS PHASE OF THE SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN APPROVED AND FINAL APPROVED AND THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BUILD IT ACCORDING TO OUR REQUIREMENTS.
>> DO YOU ALL SEE WHERE THAT LOOKS TERRIBLE WHERE THEY
DID THE RIFF WRAP? >> IS THAT APART OF THE NEW SUBDI SUBDIVISION?
>> THAT'S WHAT THEY JUST FINISHED.
TO ME, IT IS A SIGN OF WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO IF YOU LET THEM. IF THEY WANT TO BUILD
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HOUSES. THAT'S OKAY.THEY NEED TO DO IT -- >> I MAKE SPEECH BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT, IT IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON IT.
IT IS A TECHNICAL REVIEW. WE REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THE SUBDIVISION THAT MEETS ALL OF THE STANDARDS THAT WE SET ABOUT IN OUR SUBDIVISION AND OTHER CODES THAT THEY MUST
>> SO, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE LOOKING AT TODAY, DOES THIS SUBDIVISION AS PRESENTED MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN OUR SUBDIVISION?
>> RIGHT. THEY CAN'T DONE ANYTHING BEHIND MY HOUSE YET, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT WHEN
THEY GET THROUGH. >> WELL, THE LOOK OF IT.
>> IT LOWERS YOUR PROPERTY VALUE WITH THE LOOKS OF
THAT. >> YOU PROPERLY ALL AGREE
WITH THAT. >> YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.
>> ANYONE ELSE? >> MY NAME IS KATHLEEN, I
I WILL TRY TO KEEP CLOSE TO THE TWO MINUTES.
>> I WILL WROTE THAT -- >> I SAID TWO MINUTES.
>> I MAY BE THE PERSON ON YOUR BLOCK THAT HAS BEEN MOST AFFECTED. THEIR FAILURE TO DEAL WITH THE RETENTION POND ISSUE HAS RESULTED IN A LOT OF RUN-OFF ON TO MY PROPERTY. TO THE POINT WHERE, LIKE, I HAVE A FRONT SORT OF ROCK GARDEN, I HAD TO BRING IN PEOPLE TO, LIKE, SUPPLEMENT THE CONSTRUCTION OF IT, BECAUSE THEIR DRAINAGE HAD WASHED AWAY SO MANY PARTS EVER -- OF IT. AND EVEN THOUGH IT IS HIGHER, THERE'S STILL A PROBLEM.
THIS MAY SEEM SMALL, BUT MY BACK DRIVEWAY AND MY WHOLE PATIO, THERE'S NO WAY I CAN KEEP IT CLEAN BECAUSE OF THE MU MU MUDDY STUFF IS RUNNING OFF. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEETS CODE, I DON'T KNOW. IF IT DOESN'T, THEY SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE RETENTION POND ISN'T STILL THERE.
AND THEN, I THINK, ALSO, -- I'M SORRY -- LET'S SEE.
AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, AND THIS I WOULD SWEAR ON A BIBLE, I ACCIDENTLY RAN INTO THE CONTRACTOR, AND THERE WERE BUILDING, PUTTING THESE ROCKS ALONG THE SLOPE. AND HE SAID TO ME, DON'T WORRY. THIS IS GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL ROCK GARDEN WE ARE MAKING FOR YOU.
I'M SORRY, YOU ARE ALL INVITED TO COME SEE IT.
IT IS A RAGGED, ALL KINDS OF GRASSES MIXED TOGETHER, SPOT, THAT CAN'T POSSIBLY BE MOWED BECAUSE THERE'S ALL OF THE ROCKS OF DIFFERENT SIZES.
IT IS A BIG EYE-SORE AND DEFINITELY REDUCE THE VALUE
OF MY PROPERTY. >> AND THEN I THINK THE BLASTING IS A CONCERN BECAUSE I'M RETIRED NOW, WHICH IS QUITE A PRIVILEGE, THAT MEANS I'M AT HOME A LOT. SO, I FEEL MY HOUSE LITERALITY SHAKING AND THE BLASTING IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR AS CLOSE AS THIS BLASTING IS GOING TO BE.
I UNDERSTAND IT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
IT SEEMS TO ME BECAUSE THE CITY APPROVED IT, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HOLDING, THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO ACCOUNT:
>> WHERE IS YOUR HOUSE? >> 163 SISIENNA.
IF IT IS RUNNING THIS WAY, I HAVE AN ACCESS ROAD WHAT NEXT TO MY HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL
>> YOU SEE IT? >> OH YES, OKAY.
>> YOU BACK UP TO THAT AREA YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
>> YES. THEY WILL EVENTUALLY BACK UP TO THAT AREA. IT HAS GONE WAY LONGER THAN WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD TAKE. I UNDERSTAND HE HAS AN
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.
>> ROCK GARDEN RIGHT THERE? AND THEN THIS IS A HIGHER --
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CLOSED DOWN HILL. THIS IS A HIGHER LEVEL.EVERY TIME IT RAINS -- (SPEAKING AWAY FROM THE MIC)
>> RIGHT THERE. THERE'S TWO ISSUES BEFORE US HERE; ONE IS DOES THE SUBDIVISION BEFORE US MEET THE CRITERIA THAT IS NECESSARY FOR APPROVAL? THE OTHER ISSUES THAT MAY RELATE TO -- QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, WHEN WE ARE FINISHED WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ASK THE CITY ENGINEERING STAFF TO COMMENT ON. RELATED TO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE RETENTION POND AND OTHER DRAINAGE ISSUES.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME FORWARD?
I'M SUSAN. I'M ON THE HOA BOARD.
THIS PARTICULAR HOMEOWNER THAT WE WERE SPEAKING WITH THAT HAS THE ROCKWALL THAT LOOKS BAD.
WHEN OUR PRESIDENT WENT TO RICK TO ASK HIM WHAT COULD BE DONE, HE SAID NOW THAT'S THE HOMEOWNER RESPONSIBILITY. YES, WE CAN PUT A LIEN ON THAT AND PUT IN A CORRECT RETENTION WALL.
IF I BOUGHT A NEW HOUSE I WOULD BE HIGHLY UPSET COME TO ME AND SAID THAT. IF THAT IS OUR ONLY RECOURSE, THEN THAT'S OUR ONLY RECOURSE.
I UNDERSTAND CONSTRUCTION, WHEN WE WERE THERE, AND I HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH CONSTRUCTION FOR 7 YEARS.
I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE PROBLEMS THAT COME WITH IT.
THE BLASTING IS A CONCERN. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BLASTING IS MEETING ALL OF THE REGULATIONS.
I HAVEN'T FELT ANY FOUNDATIONAL PROBLEMS WITH MY HOUSE, BUT I HAVE DEFINITELY FELT SOME SHIFTING IN THE HOUSE, AND THE WINDOWS AND DOORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I DON'T WANT MY HOUSE, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE IT INCREASES MY HOUSING VALUE. IF I HAVE DAMAGE TO MY FOUNDATION, THAT'S ALL GONE AWAY.
SO, THAT IS ONE THING I WANT TO CONCERN.
>> THE OTHER IS I KNOW VICKI MENTIONED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES. WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING THE CULL DESAC ON CANAL, THERE WERE BRINGING THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION.
I DON'T KNOW UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN'T COME THROUGH COLLEGE STREETS THEY ARE BRINGING IN THEIR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES COMING OFF OF COLLEGE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN'T COME OFF OF COLLEGE AS WELL. THE HOA WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FOR THE ROAD REPAIR WHERE THEY BROUGHT THE VEHICLES? IS THAT THE CITY? IS THAT ON THE BUILDER? THAT WAS MY PRIMARY CONCERNS.
THE HOA, RICK, AND OUR BOARD WORK CLOSELY TOGETHER ON MOST THINGS. JEFF, OUR HOA PRESIDENT IS GETTING THINGS RESOLVED. WE HEAR THAT THERE IS A RESOLUTION. WE NEED TO SEE SOMETHING.
THE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, WE HAVE AN ART BOARD, AND SOME OF THE HOUSES YOU BUILT ON AREA, DO NOT MEET THE ART REQUIREMENTS, THAT IS APART OF OUR COVENANT.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I DIDN'T SEE YOU. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE
IS A RETENTION POND HERE. >> OKAY.
>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- (SPEAKING AWAY FROM THE
>> I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.
ONE WAS A VERY SIMPLE ONE-ONE: THE ROAD REPAIR. ALLISON, IF THE FINAL --
>> COAT. >> -- COAT BE PLACED ON THE
STREETS? >> I WILL HAVE TO CHECK.
IF IT IS DOWN, THE DEVELOPER HAS THE WARRANTY OTHERWISE, IT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
>> IT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY IF IT IS ONE YEAR SINCE THE ROADS HAVE BEEN APPLIED.
AND THE OTHER IS THE DRAINAGE, THE CURRENT DRAINAGE SYSTEM, YOU ARE GOING MAKE SURE THAT THIS SUBDIVISION THAT IS PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT DOES
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HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ENGINEERED DRAINAGEMITIGATION CONTROL. >> YES, SIR.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE RETENTION POND?
>> I WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT.
I DIDN'T SEE A POND ON THE EXTENSION --
>> CAN'T HEAR HER BACK HERE. >> TURN ON YOUR MIC.
>> THANK YOU. >> BASED ON THE PLANS FOR THE EXTENSION OF CANAL COURT, I DIDN'T SEE A RETENTION POND BUT I DID SEE A DITCH TO TAKE IT WATER AWAY FROM THE REAR OF THE HOMES WITH THE REAR ACCESS OF THE DRIVEWAY, MAYBE IT HAS TILTED IN OR SOMETHING HAPPENED DURING CONSTRUCTION? AS FAR AS THE NEW PHASE, THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET OUR GUIDELINES, STONE AND RETENTION.
>> OKAY. >> ONLY ON SOFIA OR CANAL AS
WELL? >> IT SOUNDS LIKE CANAL IS
CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM. >> I'M SORRY.
I AM GETTING MY STREET NAMES CONFUSED.
>> SOFIA IS AN EXTENSION TO THIS.
>> THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH?
>> YES. >> IT IS ALREADY BUILT.
>> YES. THERE WAS NOT A RETENTION POND ON THE CULL DESAC, MAYBE ON THE EARLIER PHASES, WHICH IS WHAT I WILL SAY IS THE ORIGINAL CANAL COURT.
THERE WAS A DITCH PROPOSED TO THE WATER WOULDN'T EFFECT
THE HOMES. >> IS THAT WHERE THE ROCK
>> I MISSED THAT. >> WHEN YOU TERM THE DITCH
>> SWELL IS MUCH BETTER. >> --
>> OKAY. >> THAT'S THE ROCK GARDEN AND THAT'S HER DRIVEWAY AND EVERY TIME IT RAINS IT GOES
THANK YOU. >> I DO QUESTION, I KNOW THERE ARE MULTIPLE DEVELOPERS IN HERE AND IF THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL RETENTION POND?
>> BASED ON MY MEMORY, THE EXISTING PONDS -- THANK YOU -- SOUTH OF TUSKANEE AND IT ALL DRAINS TO THE SOUTH.
BUT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN UPPER PONDS IN WHAT WE WOULD CALL PHASE ONE. AND MIKE MCINTYRE CAN TRACE
THAT. >> LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
WHEN I COMES TO DRAINAGE, HOW DO WE APPROACH -- TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD DRAIN PROPERLY. RIGHT? NOT JUST CANAL. HOW DOES THE CITY APPROACH
THAT SORT OF THING? >> AS THE DEVELOPMENTERS ARE ADD ODD KNOW -- DEVELOPMENTS ARE ADDED ON AND THE ENGINEERS ARE LOOKING WE LOOK AT THE EXISTING TOP GRAPH TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T EFFECT.
THAT IS SWELLS, DITCHES, RETENTION PONDS TO DIVERT
THE WATER. >> AS EACH NEW PLAT COMES
YES. IF THIS IS UPSTREAM, THE DOWN-STREAM WILL RECEIVE THE WATER.
NOT TO SAY THEY WILL RECEIVE ALL OF IT.
WATER FLOWS DOWNHILL. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS
SOMETHING WRONG THERE. >> IT MAYBE THAT SOMETHING WAS NOT CONSTRUCTED THROUGH THE DESIGN PLANS.
WE DON'T VERIFY OR CHECK THAT.
WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE ENGINEER AND MENTION THE
RESIDENTS' CONCERNS AND -- >> IF WATER RUNS DOWNHILL.
IT IS OVER SIMPLIFSIMPLIFIED. YOU HAVE RETENTION PONDS TO RETAIN THE WATER UNTIL THE DOWNSLOPE CAN BE HANDLED, SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE THE NEW LOAD.
>> RIGHT. WE TRY NOT TO DIRECT THE WATER WHERE IT WAS NOT GOING ORIGINALLY.
MAYBE IT WAS GOING BACK TO WHERE IT WAS GOING ORIGINALLY. BUT, YES.
>> WHAT SORT OF RERESOURCE, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN THROUGH THE PICTURES -- IT IS A CIVIL MATTER HOMEOWNERS AND THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND
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A DEVELOPER. IT IS NOT A CITY ISSUE THATYOU GUYS DEAL WITH. >> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> IF THE HOMES WERE IN JEOPARDY OF FLOODING IF THERE ARE EASEMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR, LIKE A DITCH, THE DITCH IS CLOGGED, WE WOULD CLEAN THAT OUT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING.
>> THE LAST ISSUE THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED, I DON'T KNOW, WHO REGULATES BLASTING?
>> OUR INSPECTION SERVICES DEPARTMENT REGULATES BLASTING. YOU HAVE TO GET A BLASTING
PERMIT. >> IN THAT PERMIT, HOW DO THEY -- THEY TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH, WHAT KIND OF LOAD THEY HAVE GOT TO PUT THERE TO BLAST?
>> I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. CHRISTIAN, DID YOU GET A
CHANCE TO TALK TO DON. >> I'M NOT SURE.
>> THE ARTILLERY GUY WOULD ANSWER THAT.
>> YES, PLEASE. >> PRECISION SURVEYS.
WE ARE DOING THE SURVEYS. THE WAY THE WAY BLASTING WORKS, THEY HAVE TO PUT SEISMIC GRAPHS AND THEY HAVE CERTAIN TIMES WHEN THEY CAN DO THAT, AND THEY HAVE BONDING, IF -- THEY ARE LICENSED AND BONDED.
THEY HAVE TO REPAIR THE FOUNDATIONS IF IT CAUSES ANY
DAMAGE. >> THEY GO DIRECTLY TO THE BLASTING COMPANY AND NOT THE DEVELOPER.
>> THE DEVELOPER WILL CONTACT THE -- AND THEY WILL GET TO THE BLASTER. THE BEST PEOPLE TO TALK TO, AND THE MOST RESPONSIVE AND THEY WILL CONTACT THE
>> YEP. >> IS THERE ANY PRE-SURVEY OR INSPECTIONS OF THE FOUNDATIONS?
>> -- THE QUESTION IS WHAT WAS --
>> IF THERE IS A PREINSPECTION IF THERE WAS DAMAGE AHEAD OF TIME? THAT'S A CIVIL MATTER.
>> I DOUBT THAT THAT IS REQUIRED.
THE -- YEAH. >> THE HOMEOWNER THAT IT WAS YOUR -- YOUR BLASTING THAT CAUSED MY FOUNDATION.
>> ASK THE QUESTION TO ME. AGAIN, ASK THE QUESTION TO M
>> YOU ARE SAYING MY RECOURSE IS CIVIL.
HOW DO WE PROVE THAT THE HOMEOWNER BEFOREHAND THAT THE FOUNDATION WASN'T CRACKED PREVIOUSLY.
AND THERE IS A P PRECERTIFICATION THAT IT IS GOOD. YOU --
>> MR. CHAIR, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO SPEAK, SPEAK IT TO THE PODIUM TO WELL.
>> THIS IS NOT OUR PURVIEW AT ALL.
>> ABOUT THE SUBDIVISION THAT IS BEFORE US, THESE
LOTS WERE ON THE PLAT. >> BUT, THE QUESTION IS INTRIGUING. IT IS NOT OUR PURVIEW.
HOW DO WE PROVE THAT THE FOUNDATION WAS NOT ALREADY
MESSED UP BEFORE THE TNT. >> CAN I TELL YOU WHAT I
PRIVATE. >> THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC
THAT WAS MENTIONED. >> RIGHT NOW I KNOW THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO THE PROPERTY IS THROUGH THE EXISTING ROADS. THERE IS A GOOD POINT THAT THE -- THAT CAN BE RAISED TO ENGINEERING AND CHANGE THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE OFF OF COLLEGE.
L-DOT HAS REQUIREMENTS ON HOW THEY GET IN AND OFF OF THE RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE OF MUD.
THAT WOULD BE WORKED OUT. THAT WOULD BE WORKED THROUGH THE ENGINEERS AND DEPARTMENT.
IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE PLAT, IT WOULD CHANGE HOW THE
DESIGN PLANS ARE DONE. >> IT COMES WITH ANY SUBDIVISION IN ANY PHASES. THE FIRST PHASE IS ONES HAVE TO SEE THE TRUCKS AND OTHERS.
>> IT IS BETTER TO BUILD FROM THE BACK AND GO TO THE FRONT. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
>> GET THE ROAD IN THERE. >> PAYING FOR ROADS NO ONE
IS USING. >> SIT DOWN, PLEASE.
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>> THIS IS WHAT IS BEFORE US, THE QUESTION IS, AFTER WE HEARD THIS, ALL OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, DOES THIS PLAT MEET TECHNICAL MEET, FULLY MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS OF OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND OTHER CODES.
>> I MOVE TO APPROVE, 22009. >> SECOND.
IS THERE A NEED TO DISCUSSION THE MOTION?
>> ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AYE.
[3. Preliminary Plat - Beehive Park - Public Hearing]
>> THE MOTION CARRIES. >> THE NEXT ITEM OF
BUSINESS, BEE HIVE PARK. >> AND MR. CHAIR, THE APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM HAS REQUESTED THAT IS POSTPONED
TO THE NEXT MEETING. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> WE ARE GLAD TO DO THAT. >> THAT REQUIRES A MOTION TO AMEND TO POSTPONE TO DATE CERTAIN OF BEE HIVE PARK.
>> SECOND. SECONDED AND WE WILL POSTPONE THAT AT THE REQUEST.
THAT IS MORE THAN 30 DAYS. >> ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED SAY NO.
>> IT HAS BEEN APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.
[STAFF COMMUNICATION]
>> IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS?
>> THE ONLY OTHER BUSINESS I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, JOHN IS A NEW STAFF MEMBER. HE IS A GRADUATE OF AUBURN UNIVERSITY. WELCOME, JOHN, AND HAVE A FEW NEW FACES ON OUR PLANNING TEAM.
AND VERY EXCITED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.
>> THE REST OF THEM -- >> OH, SORRY, ROBIN.
OUR NEW ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, TIFFANY MOORE.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN HER FACE. >> OH, YEAH.
>> I AM GLAD TO HAVE HER ON BOARD.
AND CONNOR IS NEW. >> WE ALL NEED OUR MUSE.
>> WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.
>> ANY FURTHER BUSINESS? >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> IF NOT, WE ARE ADJOURNED!
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.