Sep 05, 2023 City Council

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>> I HAVE NOTHING THERE. >> I MOVED TO ADJOURN THE

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE? >> AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN U THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETIN FOR SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH, 2023.

I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY WHO JOINED US IN PERSON HERE TONIGHT. THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING ON THE RADIO AND WATCHING THROUGH THE AND FACEBOOK, WELCOME, EVERYONE.

ROLL CALL? >> PLEASE RISE WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING

FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDE GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AN

JUSTICE FOR ALL. . >> THANK YOU, PLEASE BE SEATED

[4. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS]

EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION VIDEO. >> WE ARE PLEASED TO RECOGNIZE AND INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR SEPTEMBER EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH I HAVE A MEMORANDUM HERE AND INSPECTION SERVICES DIRECTOR BUILDING OFFICIAL. THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. I'M PLEASED TO NOMINATE JIM TAYLOR FOR THE EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH AWARD IN RECOGNITION OF HIS OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTION AND DEDICATION TO HIS ROLE AS BUILDING INSPECTOR. WITH AN IMPRESSIVE TENURE OF 18 YEARS AND INSPECTION SERVICES DEPARTMENT, HE HAS A DEMONSTRATION OF QUALITIES THAT EMBODY OUR CORE VALUES AND MISSION. THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, HE CONSISTENTLY PROVIDED THE ROOM INSPECTIONS ENSURING ALL PROJECTS MEET THE REQUIRED STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS. HIS METICULOUS ATTENTION TO DETAIL CONTRIBUTED GENTLY TO MAINTAINING THE SAFETY AND INTEGRITY OF BUILDINGS WITHIN OUR CITY. HIS KEEN ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND COMPLEX BUILDING CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES HAS PROVEN INVALUABLE IN HIS ROLE. HE CONTINUALLY ENGAGES IN OPPORTUNITIES TO DEEPEN HIS UNDERSTANDING OF CODE, WHETHER TO PARTICIPATE IN TRAINING, INDEPENDENT RESEARCH OR SERVING ON AN INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCI COMMITTEE. HE HAS SHOWN A SOLI DEDICATION TO HIS JOB AT TAKING THE KNOWLEDGE HE GAINED AND OFFERING TRAINING AND EDUCATION TO CONTRACTORS, OWNERS AND FELLOW STAFF MEMBERS. HIS EFFORTS ENSURE HAS KNOWLEDGE AN EXPERTISE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCE THE OVERALL UNDERSTANDING OF BUILDING CODES AND SAID -- CONTINUALLY IMPROV THE QUALITY OF WORK IN OUR ORGANIZATION. IN ADDITION TO HI DEDICATION, HE UPHOLDS ETHICAL STANDARDS IN ALL ASPECTS OF HIS WORK. HE CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATES FAIRNESS, IMPARTIALITY AND HONESTY WITHIN HIS INTERACTIONS. IT IS WITHOUT RESERVATION RECOMMEND JIM TAYLOR FOR THE EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH AWARD. IT WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE HIS OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE AND INSPIRE OTHERS TO EMULATE HIS EXEMPLARY QUALITIES. THANK YOU, JIM, AND CONGRATULATIONS.

>> >> AGAIN, THINKING CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES FOR DOING SUCH GREAT WORK ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF OGREN. WE CONGRATULATE THEM TAYLOR FOR BEING THE EMPLOYEE O THE MONTH. THE CITY COUNSELOR REAPPOINTED TRACY ROBERTS TO THE LEE COUNTY YOUTH DEVELOPMEN CENTER. WE APPRECIATE YOUR ENTHUSIASM AND WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THE STAFF AT THE YOUTH COUNTY DEVELOPMENT. QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA. THERE IS A REQUEST TO EXCHANGE THE ORDER O ITEMS. THAT WILL BE A.I.D.S. EIGHT E, SEVEN AND EIGHT.

AFTER THEY DECIDED NOT TO DO THAT. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO PRESIDENT , MRS. ROBERTS, FO HOSTING DINNERS. THE SHOW THE EFFORTS AND BRAVERY OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS. IT IS REALLY KIND OF THEM. DR. -- STARTED THIS TRADITION YEARS AG AND DR. ROBERTS CONTINUED IT T THIS DAY. WE APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. NEXT MONDAY IS 9/11. ST. MICHAEL'S CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL BE HOSTING A BLUE MASS OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY

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THOSE THINGS ARE OPEN FOR OUR COUNSEL. AND CERTAINLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. I WANT TO THINK THE AUBURN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR HOSTING THE LESSON ON THE CORNER. IT WAS WONDERFUL TO GATHER TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE FROM OUR COMMUNITY. AND ASK FO THE LORD'S BLESSING OF OUR CITY IN THE COMING YEAR. THEY HAVE 150 ANNIVERSARY BIRTHDAY RECENTLY. I APPRECIATE PAUL PATTERSON AND HIS STAFF INVITIN ME TO THAT. IT IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION IN COLLEGE THAT IS THAT THE HEART OF WHAT OUR UNIVERSITY IS ABOUT. THIS COMING SATURDAY IS BENJAMIN'S --. YOU CAN RUN 10K OR RUN A 5K. THERE IS A WALKIE CAN PARTICIPATE IN. A MEMBER OF OU TOURISM STAFF. HAS BEEN FIGHTIN THE FORM OF LEUKEMIA. AND HE IS BENJAMIN. BENJAMIN IS DOING WELL AND AT HOME. WE APPRECIATE THEY WANT TO RAISE AWARENESS T THIS CAUSE. IF YOU NEED EXERCIS ON SATURDAY MORNING AND YOU WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO A GREAT CAUSE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO T TOWN CREEK AND PARTICIPATE. RHAPSODY AND LILY JANE HAVE BEE RECOGNIZED BY THE ALABAMA RETAI ASSOCIATION AS BEING OUTSTANDING BUSINESSES. THEY WILL BE RECOGNIZED HERE LOCALLY AT THIS COMING FRIDAY. A COUPL OF OTHER LOCATIONS AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE WILL MOVE FORWAR

[5. AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, Y'ALL. IT I BEEN A GREAT FEW WEEKS BACK ON THE PLANE FOR AUBURN STUDENT BODY. WE ARE STARTING BACK AT THE SWING OF THINGS. THEY HAD HUGE WIN OVER THIS WEEKEND. IT IS AN ALL-TIME RECORD FOR -- WHICH IS ALWAYS BIG. ALWAYS EXCITED AND THEY HAD THE WHOLE STUDENT BODY AT THE AUBURN FAMILY. ON TOP OF THAT, IN OTHER NEWS, PARDON ME.

CATHERINE SIERRA, A FOOD SCIENC STUDENT FROM UNDER US ONE THIRD PLACE AT THE RESEARCH SYMPOSIUM, BECOMING FLUENT IN ENGLISH ONLY TWO YEARS AGO. COMING HERE FOR AN INTERNSHIP.

SHE WORKS IN THE GRAD PROGRAM, STUDYING PLASMA. I APOLOGIZE.

SHE CONTINUES HER STUDIES USING PLASMA TO COMBAT BACTERIA.

WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS. GOOD FOR HER OBVIOUSLY. I AM TAKING ELEMENTARY SPANISH ONE. I'M LEARNING MY COLORS. I HAVE A TEST FRIDAY AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. FOR HER TO BECOME A HERO DOING FOLLOW-UP PRESENTATIONS ON COMPLICATED SCIENCE, IS SOMETHING I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT. A LOT OF THE STUDENT BODY HAS BEEN HAPPY WITH THE SIDEWALK AND CROSSWALK ADJUSTMENTS AROUND TOWN. IT'S

[6. CITIZENS’ COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS]

THANK YOU. >> CITIZENS COMMUNICATION ON ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL BUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON THE RECORD AND YOU WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS. IF YOU WANT TO JUST CITY COUNCI

NOW IS THE TIME TO DO THAT. >> GOOD EVENING. I LIVE AT 176 CREEKWOOD TRAIL. I JUST SEE BOTH AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND PRESIDENT OF THE CREEKWOOD DEVELOPMENT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF -- DRIVE PROPOSAL. IT WAS CREATED IN 1992 BY THE CITY PRIVATE ROAD, WHICH IS THE ONL ACCESS TO OUR DEVELOPMENT. LET ME REALLY HOW THIS WAS CREATED IN 1982. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT THE WORD WOULD B MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. IF IT IS NOT, CIT SERVICES WILL BE WITHDRAWN. WE MAINTAIN THE ROAD. SINCE 2009, SPENT OVER $43,000 TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD. IT IS ESSENTIALLY ON LIEN . IT CONTAINS A, AND

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>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. WE WILL MOVE AHEAD WITH THE CITY MANAGES COMMUNICATION.

>> WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CITY MANAGES COMMUNICATION SO THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANYBODY WANT T REMOVE AN ITEM TO DEAL WITH IT INDIVIDUALLY?

>> REMOVE EIGHT, B, SEVEN, AND EIGHT.

>> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? >> AA3 PLEASE.

>> MR. MAYOR? MAY I REMOVE EIGHT, CHARLIE?

>> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. LET'S START WITH 8C.

>> YOU SAID EIGHT C. IT WAS 8E3. ALL RIGHT. ITEM EIGHT

[8.c. Concurrence with Industrial Development Board. AUBix LLC. 1571 West Samford Ave. Auburn Industrial Park.]

AMOUNT OF $175,000. >> I MOVED TO PROVE.

>> SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MR. GRISWOLD? OH, EXCUSE ME, I DO APOLOGIZE. MR. MOORMAN.

>> MY FRIENDS ARE DOING WELL AN WE ARE PROUD FOR THEM AND THEIR SUCCESS. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THEIR INVESTMENT. WE ARE EXCITE ABOUT THE EXPENSE. I HAVE SEEN IT. WHEN THEY FIRST GOT HERE, COUPLE OF US WENT OVER AND SAW THIS. IT IS A GREAT FACILITY.

AM I CORRECT THAT THE LATEST EXPANSION? IT BEGAN ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. WITH AN AGREEMENT FOR PREPAID LEASE AND NOW, THEY ARE BUYING THE PROPERTY OU RIGHT?

>> IT IS RATIFYING A PREVIOUS ACTION. YOU ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT NOT BUYING PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY. IT WAS INITIALLY ITS OWN COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WHICH REQUIRED A SALE OF PROPERTY. I WAS NOT A DIRECT INDUSTRIAL USE THIS IS RATIFYING AN ACTION OF AN AGREED-UPON PRICE FOR THE PROPERTY. THEY NEED TO TRANSAC THE MORTGAGE. MR. DUNLOP, IS THAT CORRECT? YOU NEED THE STEPPED ON TO GET A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION TO FINALIZE THE TRANSACTION. NOT REALLY AN EXPANSION PER SE. IT IS A CONTINUED WRAP UP OF THE INITIA

INVESTMENT PLAN. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, POLIC SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE? IN THE

[8.e.3 Foresite Group, LLC. Professional Services Agreement. Pearson Park Project. $218,200.]

MOTION CARRIES. AA3. >> AA3 AUTHORIZES THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT O $218,200. MOVED FOR APPROVAL.

I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS. IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC OF WHAT THI IS ALL ABOUT. FOR THE COUNSELO AS A WHOLE, WE DO NOT HEAR ABOU IT UNTIL THE BUDGET SUMMARY WE HAD LAST WEEK. THE BUDGET MEETING. I APPRECIATE A QUICK SUMMARY OF THIS TO GET TO THE PUBLIC.

>> SURE. >> THERE IS SOME PROPERTY ON TH ROAD CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE AUBURN REAL ESTATE FOUNDATION

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THE PROPERTY FALLS UNDER A LAND TRUST OF ALABAMA GEORGIA LAND TRUST WHERE THEY HAD CONSERVATION RIGHTS. IT IS SOMETHING DR. PEARSON DID IN TH EARLY 2000 SOME TIME AGO. A DONOR HAD STEPPED IN AND ACTUALLY KIND OF TRANSACTED AND AWAY . WE WILL REVEAL THE DONOR WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO BE REVEALE WITH THE AUBURN UNIVERSITY REAL ESTATE FOUNDATION TO TRANSACT ALL OF THE PROPERTY. THE CITY WAS APPROACHED TO SAY, WOULD YO LIKE TO PUT A PASSIVE PARK ON OVER 40 ACRES OF PROPERTY THAT YOU CAN USE ? THE NOMINAL FEE I $10 A YEAR. THE LEASE IS NOT FINAL. I HAVE TO CAUTION ON TH MEDIA FRIENDS, THE AMOUNT SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND NOT THE NEGOTIATING. THE LEGAL TIMEFRAM IS 30 YEARS, BUT IT CAN INCREASE. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEND A LITTLE OVER 2 TO 2 AND HALF MILLION TO PUT A PASSIVE . WALKING TRAILS AND A SMALL PLAYGROUND. AND A LARGE PAVILION. IT ALL MEETS ALABAMA GEORGIA LAND TRUST PARAMETERS.

WE HAVE NO HOPE OF ACQUIRING PROPERTY AT A REASONABLE COST.

AND THE HOPE TO SPEND $10 A YEAR, WE WILL SPEND MONEY ON SOME IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS A PASSIVE RECREATION FACILITY AS OPPOSED TO ACTIVE. THERE IS IF YOU DRIVE BY THE PROPERTY NOW.

HE WILL SEE A CLEAR AREA AND LITTLE FEET BLIND THERE. THE AREA AC CLEAR IS THE SAME ON OUR PLAN. IT IS AN OPEN AREA AND YOU CAN GO OUT THERE. THE FAMILY PICK UP GAME AND WHAT HAVE YOU. WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL TO THE REAL ESTATE FOUNDATION IN THE DONOR . THIS HAPPENING FOR THE AU FOUNDATION BEYOND --. THE ONLY REQUEST THIS BE NAMED IS AT THE PARK.

WE DO NOT FEEL IT IS NECESSARY IN THE SPACE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION.

WILL THE PARK BE TREATED LIKE OTHER PART THAT WILL BE A FEE , WHERE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY RUN IT? IS IT ACTUALLY OPEN?

>> IN TERMS OF THE USE OF PAVILION, I HAVE TO CHECK ABOUT THE LAND TRUST AND HAVE TO TAKE A DEEP DIVE AS TO WHETHER OR NO WE ARE EVEN ALLOWED. IT IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE BACK TO THEIR ATTORNEYS A TO WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN EVEN CHARGE THE FEE. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS. I'M SORRY I CANNOT ANSWER THAT TONIGHT. IT'LL HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY TH CITY COUNCIL. AWARD CONSTRUCTION WILL HAVE TO APPROVE IT AS WELL. YOU WILL SEE ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT W WILL BE SHOULD HAVE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. THANK YOU.

>> THE LAND TRUST HAS APPROVED THE DESIGN AND THE USE OF IT.

>> THEY HAVE TO MAKE UP FINAL APPROVAL AND A PRELIMINARY APPROVAL BASED ON OUR DESIGN. WE HAVE NOT GONE TO THE

QUESTIONS THAT MS. TAYLOR HAS. >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS?

>> THE MOTION , ALL IN FAVOR, POLICE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[8.e.7. Creekwood Development Homeowners Association. Payment to construct Bridlewood Drive.]

AND THE MOTION CARRIES. >> PARTIAL PAYMENT TOWARDS THE EXTENSION OF BRIDAL WOULD DRIVE OVER A MAXIMUM OF AN 11 YEAR

PERIOD. >> MOVE FOR AN APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION IN THE

SECOND. >> APPROVED TO ABSTAIN FROM TH

HOOD. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> THE H AWAY ACCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ROAD AS A PRIVATE ROAD. A PRIVATE ROAD SIGN. POSTED. THE A MAINTAINED IT WAS A PRIVATE ROA AND IT IS CLEARLY A PRIVATE ROAD . THIS IS AN AUBURN CITY -- THIS IS NOT AN AUBURN CITY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD NOR HAS IT EVER BEEN. I THINK , PAY FOR PRIVATE ROAD WHATSOEVER IN MY OPINION. WE ARE LOOKING AT AN INTEREST FREE

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THINK THIS IS A SITUATION THAT HAS TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE OPTICS.

THE POTENTIAL FOR BAD PRESIDEN IN THE FUTURE. IT IS INAPPROPRIATE WHATSOEVER FOR THE CITY TO PUT TOWARDS IN A PRIVATE ROAD. WE HAVE AN AFFLUENT COMMUNITY. WHICH I'M GLAD YOU WERE THERE. WHY IN TH WORLD THE CITY WILL BE PUTTING MONEY TOWARDS IT, I DO NOT KNOW IF THE DEVELOPER AND HOA WANT TO SEPARATE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM TO JOINTLY FUN THE ROAD, I AM ALL FOR IT. THAT IS WHAT IT BELONGS. NOT COMING

OUT OF CITY FUNDS. >> I BEEN WORKING WITH THE CREEKWOOD HOA . IT'S BEEN A CONCERN OF THEIRS. IT WAS BROUGHT TO ME 2021. WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH SINCE 1982. YES, AT THAT TIME, WHEN THEY ASK IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM AS A CITY, THE ANSWER WAS NO. AT THE TIME IT WAS STILL IN THE COUNTY. BECAUSE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS BEING GOING AND ADD ROCK HOUSE FARMS, OFF OF BRIDA WOULD , THAT IS WHAT TRIGGERED THE NEED FOR THE CITY TO BE A PART OF IT. IN 1992, THE CITY IS WHAT CREATED THIS SITUATION AND THE MINUTES FROM THE 1992 ARBOR AND PLANNING COMMISSION, DR. MCCORMICK STATED THAT WHAT MR. ROGERS HAD DONE WAS BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS LANDLOCKED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A -- THEY PROPOSED THE DEVELOPMENT O A ROAD WITH A MORE NARROW ROADWAY TO ACCOMMODATE THE FACT AND INTENDS TO DEVELOP A LANDLOCKED PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE EASEMENT. IN 1982, THE CITY MADE IN -- MADE A DECISION TO ALLOW TO HAPPEN. I DON'T THINK THE CITY TODAY WOULD ALLOW IT T HAPPEN. IT IS A PRIVATE ROAD TODAY. WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT TAKES PLACE AT ROCK HOUSE FARMS AND BECOMES A PART OF THE CITY AND THAT ROAD, THE INTENTION OF THAT ROAD IS TO CREATE A CITY RETAINED ROAD BECAUSE IT WILL BE BUILT TO CITY STANDARDS. AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT SOLUTIO TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT WE AS CITY ALLOWED HAPPEN. SEVERAL YEARS AGO. I BELIEVE THAT THE BURDEN OF THE CREEKWOOD H AWAY HAS BEEN SUCH THEY HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LIABILITY OF ANYONE THAT TRANSGRESSES -- THEY GO UP AND DOWN THE ROAD.

THANK YOU. MY BRAIN IS IN OVERDRIVE RIGHT NOW. FOR THEM TO STATE WE ARE FUNDING A PRIVATE ROAD, WE ARE NOT. WE ARE, IN ESSENCE, ENSURING THE ROAD CAN BE BROUGHT UP TO CITY STANDARDS. AND THEREFORE, ONCE IT HAS AND IS, TO BECOME THE

CITY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY

SOMETHING. >> WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I HEAR THE GENTLEMAN SAY IT WAS A PRIVATE ROAD. I DO KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES . THAT HAVE COME, EVEN IN MY PRIVATE ROAD.

THE CITY CANNOT FUND PRIVATE ROOTS. THERE WAS AN EXCEPTION.

THE DEVELOPMENT IS TRYING TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PICK AND CHOOSE WHO ROSE, THE ROADS WE SHOUL ASSIST WITH . AND THOSE WHO SHOULD NOT ASSIST WITH. I DON' AGREE WITH THIS. AS A COUNCILPERSON, AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO THINK I AM PICKING AND CHOOSING BETWEEN DEVELOPMENTS. AS TO WHO CAN DO WHAT AND WHO CANNOT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO DEVELOPMENT. IS GOING TO BE ISSUES TONIGHT THE COME UP LATER ON ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT THESE

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JUST NOT FEELING THAT. >> THE REGULATIONS OF THE CITY OF AUBURN REQUIRE A DEVELOPER T PROVIDE AN ADEQUATE ROAD TO BENEFIT A NEW SUBDIVISION. THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO DO THAT IN ADDITION, THE DEVELOPER WAS ORIGINALLY ASKED TO PROVIDE AN IMPROVED ROAD TO AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORING SUBDIVISION. DID NOT SEEM FAIR TO ME. THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT SEEKS TO FACILITATE A SOLUTION TO WHICH ALL PARTIES CAN AGREE TO. THE CITY WILL RECEIVE A ROAD IN GOO REPAIR. WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE COST BORNE BY THE DEVELOPER IN THE H AWAY OF THE NEIGHBORIN SUBDIVISION. TO RESOLVE THE 30-YEAR-OLD ISSUE COME THE CITY HAS AGREED TO BEAR , UP TO $65,000. LESS THAN THE ORIGINAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOUSE AND DISSIPATED. I'M GRATEFUL T COUNSEL , AND COUNCILWOMAN INT THE CITY STAFF. FURTHER EFFORT IN PUTTING TOGETHER THIS RESOLUTION. I SUPPORTED AND TH COMPANION RESOLUTION FULLY. TW M ON THE MIND OF COUNCILWOMAN

TAYLOR. >> I'M SURE THE PROPERTY OWNER THE CREEKWOOD WEIGHT UP THE IMPLICATION OF BUYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND ALSO NEW FACT THAT THE DRIVE WAS GOING TO B SOMETHING THEY WOULD BE ABLE T BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY OF.

ALBEIT WITH PUBLICLY SOME DIFFICULTIES. 99% OF CITIZENS OF THE CITY WILL NEVER DRIVE ON IT. I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS PRECEDENT BREAKING ISSUE FOR US.

>> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY

>> >> IT WAS A LENGTHY STORY. YOU HEARD FROM BOTH DR. GOODLAND AN THE COUNCILPERSON WHITMAN ABOUT SOME EXCERPTS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT ASHTON PARK SUBDIVISION OF WHICH BOTH ASHTON PARK DEVELOPERS AND CREEKWOOD HOMEOWNERS DID NOT WANT THE CONNECTION TO GO THROUGH TO CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC POTENTIAL FROM SHELDON ROAD. MAYOR DEMPSEY IS THE ONE WHO FLAT-OUT SAID HOA HAS TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD. THERE ARE MANY NUANCES. PAGES UPON PAGES SUBMITTED.

>> SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL. >> IT IS. THERE IS AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT CAN GET TO THE OTHER SIDE. AS THEY SPOKE OF ALSO, IT CAN BE DICEY AT TIMES IT WAS PART OF THE DEAL WITH A EASEMENT THROUGH THERE. IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE ARTICHOKES? NO, IT IS NOT. THAT IS THE STATUS OF IT TODAY.

>> THANK YOU. >> THE REQUIRE THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE ROAD FOR THE FRONTAGE O THE SUBDIVISION IF I'M NOT

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MUCH IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION, THE ENTIRE FRONTAG OF THE SUBDIVISION. IF THE HOA WANTS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE UPGRADE OF THIS ROAD, THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. DIRECTLY WITH THE DEVELOPER. THEY DO NOT NEED A THIRD PARTY FOR THE CITY. A PRIVATE ROAD OR OTHER PAIR OF

PRIVATE ROAD. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT FALLS IN LINE WITH WHAT SONJA SAID. THERE IS A UNIQUE HISTORY WITH THE ROAD. A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION THAT IS DIFFERENT.

>> WHEN WE LOOK AROUND SIMILAR SITUATIONS IN THE CITY OF AUBURN. THAT WARRANTS US TREATING IT DIFFERENTLY. IT FIXES A LONG ISSUE THE CITIZEN IN THE CREEKWOOD SUBDIVISION HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH. FOR THA REASON, I WILL SUPPORT IT.

>> PEOPLE TALK ABOUT PRESTON -- PRECEDENT , WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD RAISING THEIR HAN SAYING WE WANT TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEM AND PUT OUR SKIN IN TH GAME. THAT IS REALLY UNUSUAL.

THEIR LIFE HAS BEEN UNUSUAL. A THEY TRIED WITH $43,000 TO FIX THE ROAD AND WORRY ABOUT THIS EVERY TIME WE HAVE A HARD RAIN.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE IN CREEKWOOD HAVE DONE THAT ON THIS PRIVATE ROAD. THI IS A REALLY UNUSUAL SITUATION.

I BELIEVE IT CALLS FOR AN UNUSUAL SOLUTION. THAT IS WHAT WE TRY TO COME UP WITH HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF AUBURN THAT IS COMES FROM GETTING TO A CITY STREET BY PRIVATE ROADS. THAT IS REALLY UNUSUAL. I DON'T KNOW ANYWHERE ELSE THAT HAPPENS IN OUR COMMUNITY? IT IS REALLY COLLABORATIVE OF A PARTNERSHIP TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL. FOR THERE TO BE A CITY STREET , MAINTAINED BY THE CITY IN THE FUTURE. ALL THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS CAN ACCESS INTO THE FUTURE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORR ABOUT THE NEXT BIG RAIN WATCHIN -- WASHING IT OUT. I APPRECIATE THE STUFF IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION. IT WAS NOT TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THIS. IT IS MY BELIEF FOR THE RESIDENCE OUT THERE, THAT FEATURE PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING OUT THERE, THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN AND EXISTED FOR 30 YEARS. I WILL B SUPPORTING THIS.

>> I APPLAUD THE H AWAY FOR WILLING TO PUT THEIR SKIN IN TH GAME. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO PREVENT FROM PUTTING THE SKIN IN THE GAME. IF THEY WANT TO PROVIDE THEIR SKIN IN THE GAME, THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND TALK TO THE DEVELOPER

WITHOUT THE CITY INVOLVED. >> I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO DISAGREE. I THINK IT IS ALSO UNFAIR TO COMPARE THE SITUATION WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DEEMED UNIQUE SITUATION TO ANY OTHER THING THAT MAY BE HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY. THIS H AWAY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE ARE STAKEHOLDERS. THEY ALSO PROTEC DOLLARS TO LIVE IN THE CITY AN HAVE ACCESS TO THE THINGS. MEETING A SAFE ROAD. THE REASON WHY THIS IS UNIQUE AND HAS SHIFTED AND THE REASON WHY THE CITY IS STEPPING ANNA, OR SHOUL STEP IN , IN MY OPINION, WE NOW HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A CITY MAINTAINED STREET THAT WILL THEN CONNECT TO ANOTHER CITY STREET. THIS IS CREATING CONNECTION , WHICH WE PREFER TO HAVE IN THE CITY. CREATING HEALTH AND SAFETY WELFARE. REMOVING THE LIABILIT OFF OF THE BACKS OF HOMEOWNERS.

IT IS HOLDING THE DEVELOPER RESPONSIBLE FOR A MAJORITY OF THE ROAD. IT IS THE FLAGSHIP O THEIR DEVELOPMENT. WHAT THEY AR DEVELOPING, WHICH WE WILL GET INTO THE NEXT ITEM. I DON'T

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-- TAX PAID DOLLARS. WE DON'T DO THIS LIGHTLY. WE ARE DOING THIS TO FIX A PROBLEM. AND TO SOLVE A PROBLEM. THAT'S THE REASON WHY HE JOINED THE COUNCIL, TO BE A PROBLEM SOLVER NOT A CREATOR. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF THIS

PROPOSAL. >> ANYBODY ELSE?

>> IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS , TH STAFF OF THE CITY RECOMMEND WE DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW, YOU KNOW MY VOTING RECORD. I MOST GENERALL SUPPORT THE DECISIONS OF OUR STAFF. THEY MADE A WISE

DECISION ON THIS CALL. >> OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE?

>> THE RECOMMEND WE DO THIS BY HAND VOTE?

>> THERE IS NO NEED. I THINK YO CAN ROLL -- I THINK CAN JUST

CALL FOR YES AND NO. >> ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE

ANY OPPOSE? >> NAY.

>> ONE ABSTENTION, THREE NAY , AND FIVE . FIVE COMMENTS.

[8.e.8. Herring Development, LLC. Infrastructure development agreement for Bridlewood Drive construction]

MOTION CARRIES. >> ITEM AEA AUTHORIZES A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE EXTENSION OF BRIDAL WOULD DRIV ACROSS THE DEVELOPMENT. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I WILL TURN THIS BACK

OVER TO YOU REALLY QUICK. >> TO CLARIFY, BEFORE WE GET INTO FURTHER DISCUSSION, 165 INCLUDES THE 100 FROM CREEKWOOD OVER TIME FROM 20,000 INITIALL AND THEN $8000 FROM THE NEXT 1 YEARS. OUT OF THE GATE, ONCE BUILT, IF IT PASSES BY HEARING DEVELOPMENT, WE WILL OWE UP TO 165 AND WAIT FOR UP TO $100,00 COMING BACK FOR THE SUBDIVISION.

>> CAN I ASK THE QUESTION? >> PLEASE GO AHEAD.

>> IS IT UP TO 165. THE PORTION OF THAT WILL BE 65. UP

TO 65. >> I HAVE TO SAY 165 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE AGREEMENT STIPULATES. WE HAVE TO TAKE HI SEPARATELY AND NOT CONNECT LEGALLY. YOU ARE ACCURATE IN WHAT YOU ARE SAYING COUNCILMAN.

>> IT COULD BE AS LOW AS 132. FOUR $32,000. ARE AS HIGH AS $65,000. THAT IS NOT REIMBURSE BY ANYBODY.

>> 100,000 TO BE CLEAR FOR THOS LISTENING. IT IS TO BE

SHOULDERED BY THE HOA? >> SHOULDERED BY THE HOA. I HAVE TO ADVISE, THEY ARE ON NUMBER -- THEY ARE HONORABLE PEOPLE BUT IT IS NOT SECURED. THEY ARE OBLIGATED. ONLY AS FA AS IN H AWAY COULD BE OBLIGATED

>> 33,000 IS CONTINGENCY. >> IT IS. THE DEVELOPMENT HAD AN ESTIMATE NUMBER, AND OUR STAFF RAN AN ESTIMATE AND HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE CLOSER TO 165. WE ARE HOPEFUL IF THE COME IN AT THE WIN32 NUMBER. WE WANT TO BUILD A CONTINGENCY BASED ON THINGS WE SAW. THE DEVELOPER HA WORKED WITH US TO DO THAT. AND AGAIN THE AGREEMENTS PREVIOUSLY STATED ARE AGENT AS REQUESTED B

THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL. >> ANY OF THE QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> THEY SAY TWO YEARS AND FIVE YEARS IN VARIOUS PERIODS OF TIM HERE. ANY TEETH TO HOLD THE

DEVELOPER TO TWO YEARS? >> MR. CUMMINGS, DO YOU WANT TO

RESPOND TO THAT? >> THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, YES. THEY HAVE TO BUILD IT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR BUILDING TO HAVE IT CONSTRUCTED AT THAT TIME.

>> DEALING WITH THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS.

PUTTING IT WHERE IT STANDS. THE MAIN OBJECTIVE IS TO GET AN IMPROVED ROAD WITH THE BASE. S WE CAN BE DRIVEN ON.

>> A LOT OF THE IN ENGLISH , THAT IS ONE LAST INCH OF

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WE WONDER IF SOMETHING WILL FAI AND IT WILL GET FIXED, THIS IS COMMONPLACE. THIS IS THE ENGLISH IN AN ENGINEERING PART

OF IT. >>

>> THE DEVELOPER SHOULD MAINTAIN PRIVATE ACCESS ACROSS THE PROPERTY PROVIDE ACCESS FROM THE DEVELOPER.

>> THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH THEY MUST DEAL WITH THE COLBERT AND OTHER PARTS OF THE ROAD WE MAY NEED TO CROSS TO PEOPLE WHO LIV IN CREEKWOOD THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER THIS WOULD BE A DEEDED RIGHT-OF-WAY OWNED BY THE CITY. IT IS TO ALLOW -- WHILE THE

WORK IS BEING PERFORMED. >> THE CITY SHALL PAY THE DEVELOPER. HUNDRED AND $32,000 IT CAN CONTRIBUTE UP TO AN ADDITIONAL $33,000. ANYTIME WE HAVE A DOCUMENT SAYING THE CITY SHALL PAY SOMETHING, I GET NERVOUS. IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY IT. IT I 100% THE DEVELOPER'S RESPONSIBILITY. IF THEY WANT T WORK WITH THE HOA, HAVE AT IT.

I KNOW WE WILL HEAR MORE ARGUMENTS ABOUT IT, THIS IS A WIN, WIN FOR THE HLA. THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY. THIS I A WIN FOR THE HOA AND A WIN FO THE DEVELOPER. FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, THE DEVELOPER HAS CLEAR RESPONSIBILITY TO DEVELOP THIS ROAD. NOT JUST A FLAG LOT AN INTEREST. DEVELOP THE ROAD THAT FRONTS THIS ROAD. IT IS TH RESPONSIBILITY. WHY IN THE WORLD WE HAVE THE CITY GET INVOLVED IN THE FIRST PLACE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE A SWEETHEART DEAL BEING OFFERED.

WE DON'T OFFER THIS TO OTHER DEVELOPERS. WE WILL HAVE A FOLLOWED UP BY AN UNTOLD NUMBE OF DEVELOPERS THAT WENT SIMILA DEALS. I AM ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS. IT IS WRONG IN SO MAN

WAYS. >> THE FLAG LOTS ARE THE FRONTAGE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT. AND ENDS PRIOR TO THE EAST SID OF THE COLBERT BASED ON THE PLA I WAS PRESENTED. WHICH LEAVES THE BALANCE OF THE ROAD INCLUDING A CORPORATE. AND THE REMAINDER TO CREEKWOOD. MY COUNTERPART, MR. GRISWOLD, CLEARLY IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF HELPING PEOPLE. HE THINKS THIS IS US TAKING THE BURDEN OFF. WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM. THAT WAS CREATED BY THE CITY IN 1992. IN THE MINUTES REFLECT THAT. THAT IS SEPARATE FROM ANY OTHER ONE THAT THE BODY HAS SEEN IN THE TENURE I HAVE BEEN ON HERE. I IMAGINE TO THE STAFF HERE AS WELL. ANOTHER SITUATION LIKE THIS. IF IT WERE TO ARISE, I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD SEE WE WOULD TRY TO TACKLE AND AWAY W ARE TACKLING THE SCENARIO. TO HAVE A BLANKET STATEMENT THIS I NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY WHEN IT IS THE CITY WHO CREATED THE SCENARIO IN 1992, I DISAGREE WITH IT. THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS, REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY AND WHER IS OUR DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY

AND I STAND BY THAT. >> I WANT TO SAFELY OFFSET A

LITTLE BIT. >> IF THERE WAS NO SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST. TO THE HOUSE FORMS. WHEREWITH THE ROAD STOP

>> IF THERE WAS NO CREEKWOOD.

>> IT IS HARD TO ANSWER BASED O MAJOR STREET REQUIREMENTS. THE STREET IS ON A MAJOR STREET PLA AND THEREFORE REQUIRED TO BE

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DISTANCE TO THEIR ENTRANCE. >> THINK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. GO AHEAD >> THE INCH DIVISION. THIS

REMAINED A PRIVATE ROAD? >> THE ENTIRETY IN THE SCENARIO WILL BE A PUBLIC ROAD AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENT IT APPEARS TO BE THE ENTRANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION AND THAT IS PRIVATE ROAD. THAT IS THEIR ENTRANCE AND THAT IS THEIR

PRIVATE ROAD. >> IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT? IT IS JUST BRIDAL WOULD

JOINING THE SUBDIVISION. >> THE FLAG STICKING DOWN HAVE TO BE 70 FEET. BRIDAL WOULD , THEY MEET SUBDIVISION CRITERIA OF A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY BY TH DIFFERENT FLAGS THAT SIT DOWN.

IT IS MEETING MINIMUM LOTS TH STREET OF 70 FEET.

>> OKAY. THE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT. SIMILAR TO THIS.

IT IS REGULARLY COMING TO OUR STAFF. AND THE DEVELOPER AGREE TO CREATE THE NECESSARY ROAD REQUIREMENTS? OF WHATEVER SUBDIVISION IT IS THAT? IS IT REASONABLE TO SAY?

>> WE FOLLOW WHAT IS IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS .

WHATEVER IT IS IS WHAT STAFF REQUIRES. THAT IS WHAT THEY

REQUIRE AT THIS TIME. >> THAT IS WHAT THEY RECOMMEND THIS IS THE SCENARIO WHERE THE COUNCIL MAY OR MAY NOT CHOOSE T STEP IN AND FUND PART OF IT. IT IS REQUIRED AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. NOTHING CHANGES WHO IS PAYING FOR IT. THE REQUIREMENT IS THE SAME.

>> THESE ARE LARGE LOTS. AND HOMES. WE LOOK AT IT PURELY IN TERMS OF THE ACREAGE WITH THE SUBDIVISION.

>> WE CAN ASSUME THE LARGE DWELLINGS? WE CAN ASSUME EXPENSIVE HOMES. INTO THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

>> I CANNOT SPECULATE WITH THE PRICE POINT IS. YOU SEE DECENT

SIZED HOMES ON ACREAGE . >> THERE WOULD BE 10 OF THEM.

>> 11 . FOR 11 OF THEM. THANK YOU.

>> WHAT IS THE DENSITY ALLOWANCE FOR THE ACREAGE SHOUL THE DEVELOPER WANT TO DANCE -- DENSIFY THIS GRADER?

>> OBVIOUSLY WITH THE ACREAGE, THE TOTAL ACREAGE AND 11 HOMES IT IS FAR LESS DENSE THAN ONE UNIT PER THREE ACRES. IT IS LESS OF A DEMAND ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS. AN THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE LONG RUN. IF THE PROPERTY WERE TO B DENSIFY IT TO THEM -- TO THE MAXIMAL LAND-USE AVAILABILITY THE IMPACT ALONG THE ROAD AND CITY SERVICES AND SCHOOL SYSTE AND EMS COULD BE , IT WOULD BE A LOT GREATER.

>> YOU WOULD HAVE MORE HOMES OBVIOUSLY. AND IT BEGETS MORE

SERVICES. >>

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE PROJECTED REVENUE FOR THIS

IS? >> I HAVE NOT DONE A PROJECTION AND WE DON'T TYPICALLY DO THAT ON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. I HAVE NOT DONE THAT PROJECTION. IF IT IS SOMEBODY'S HOMESTEAD, IT IS A 10% VALUATION OF WHATEVER VALUE IT PUTS ON IT.

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>> I'M LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT STAFF, WE TALK ABOUT STAFF AND

PLANNING. THEY DENIED THIS. >> I DID NOT SEE THIS.

>> TO CLARIFY SOMETHING IF I MAY. THE COUNSEL MOVED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FORWARD. WE WERE ASKED TO CREATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS PER THE POLICY BECAUSE THE CITY DOES NOT TYPICALLY PARTICIPATE IN SOME THINGS. THE MAJORITY DECIDED THEY HAD TO PUT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS TOGETHER WE DIDN'T MAKE A REVERENT -- W DIDN'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS. YOU ASKED US TO PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA, SO WE DID. WE TALK ABOUT HEALTH AND SAFETY AN WE ARE THERE FOR OUR CITIZENS.

PICKING AND CHOOSING AND MAKING EXCUSES. THE CITY MAKE -- THE MADE A MISTAKE BACK IN 1992. EITHER SOMEBODY DID NOT CONSIDE THE HEALTH SAFETY BACK THEN . WE ARE ACTUALLY SAYING THE CITY MADE A MISTAKE. WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE SOME. I SEE THEM MAKING A MISTAKE OLIVER. AND BRING THEM BEFORE THE

COUNCIL. >> OKAY.

>> I'M NOT ARGUING ABOUT IT. SO WE CANNOT CREATE AN ARGUMENT HERE. I AM STATING MY OPINION AS LONG AS THE STATE YOURS. SO AM JUST SAYING. I DON'T THINK CAN CHOOSE TO DEVELOP -- THAT WE SHOULD PAY FOR CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY , AND CERTAIN DEVELOPERS. THAT WE SHOULD FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS. THAT IS MY OPINION. AND I'M ENTITLED TO M OPINION.

>> MAYER, MAY I? >> PLEASE.

>> HELP WE HAD OTHER SCENARIOS LIKE THIS COME BEFORE THE BODY?

>> NOT QUITE LIKE THIS ONE, NO. HAD A PROGRAM CALLED SPECIAL ROAD FINANCING. THE SECTION OF THAT WAS ABOUT THE CITY ISSUED DEBT , ABOUT THE ROAD TO BE DEVELOPING. THEY WERE ON THE HOOK FOR FULL REPAYMENT. WATERCRESS BOULEVARD WAS BUILT THAT WAY. THE CITY PARTICIPATE IN SOME THINGS. THE DEVELOPERS WERE ULTIMATELY ON THE HOOK FOR LETTERS OF CREDIT FOR 100%.

>> IF THE COUNCILMEMBER HAD A SCENARIO IN WHICH THEY FELT WAS COMPARABLE AND THEY WANTED IT TO COME BEFORE THE BODY, THEY

ARE ALLOWED TO. >> IF YOU ARE POLICYMAKERS IN THE MAJORITY OF YOU WANT TO DO SOME, UNLESS IT IS THE LEGAL,

YOU CAN DO IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS THE SITUATION WHEN FIRST GOT ON THE COUNCIL. HE WAS TRYING TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING , HOUSES, OVER ON --.

HE WAS ASKING THAT THE CITY WOULD BE PAID FOR. HE ASKED THAT THE CITY PROVIDE THE CODE TO SELL. I NEVER GOT AN ANSWER ABOUT WHETHER IT HAPPENED OR NOT. IT DID NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE IT WAS PRIVATE PROPERTY. HE WAS NOT ABLE TO BUILD THOSE HOUSES . IT WOULD OFFSET SOME OF THE COST OF THEM BUILDING THOSE HOUSES. I DON'T KNOW IF IT BECAME IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL. BUT IT DID COME TO ME AND IT CAME TO THE MAYOR.

>> WAS IMPROPER FOR THE COUNCIL

>> IT WAS NOT PROPER FOR THE COUNCIL. THE STAFF WAS LOOKING

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>> ANYBODY ELSE THE COMMENT OR QUESTION?

>> I DO HAVE INTEREST IN PROBLEM SOLVING. I'M INTERESTE IN SOLVING PROBLEMS FOR THE CIT ENOUGH FOR A SELECT FEW. THE HYPOTHETICAL ABOUT DENSITY. ANYBODY WHO TALK TO THE DEVELOPERS WHICH WE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT KNOWS THAT EXPANDING THE DENSITY OF THIS THING IS NOT EVEN REMOTEL BEING CONSIDERED. AS FAR AS REVENUE GOES, WE WILL HAVE REVENUE FROM 10 OR 11. I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY A CONSIDERATION EITHER. I THINK THIS IS WRONG IN SO MANY WAYS.

CHERRY PICKING WHO WE CAN HELP, I DO THINK IT'S WRONG.

>> YOU CANNOT STATES WE ARE CHERRY PICKING WHEN THIS IS TH FIRST TIME THIS HAS COME BEFORE THE BODY. IN THIS CAPACITY. IF OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE A SCENARIO OR PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED AND IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE PERCEIVED REGULATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS , GLADLY, BRING IT BEFORE THE BODY TO BE CONSIDERED. TO SAY THIS IS BEING CHERRY PICKED IS INCORRECT. I WILL NOT SIT HERE AND ALLOW THOSE WORDS TO BE SAI

WHEN THAT IS NOT THE FACTS. >> THE PEOPLE BUILDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD CARING ABOUT 70 O 80% OF THE COST OF THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. LIKE TURN LANES IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONTO SHELTON ROAD, WHICH IS DANGEROUS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET TO THEIR OTHER THAN A PRIVATE ROAD IS WILLING TO PARTICIPATE FINANCIALLY. THE CITY WAS ASKE TO CONSIDER THE FINAL PAYMENT O THIS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN THE MAYOR WHERE WE HAVE A SCENARIO LIKE THIS BROUGHT FORWARD. I HOPE IF THE STRANGE UNUSUAL SITUATION WITH A DIFFICULT TIME REACHING A POSITIVE ENDING WOULD BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL O THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON THOUGHT IF YOU -- WE CAN BE HELPFUL. I THEY CAN BRING IT TO THE COUNCI AND BECOME WILLING TO CONSIDER IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO. I HOPE WE WOULD ALL DO THA AND WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT. THIS IS, IN MY OPINION, AN UNUSUAL SITUATION THAT NEEDED AN UNUSUAL SOLUTION. WE TRIED TO CREATE SOMETHING FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

>> I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE EFTHAT YOU AND -- HAVE DEFINITELY MAD IN GOOD FAITH. I SYMPATHIZE WITH THAT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DRAW ON MY BLUE-COLLAR

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>> I SHARED THE SAME CONCERNS YOU MENTIONED AS WELL. HOW I CAME TO MY DECISION. LOOKING A THE SITUATION AND THERE IS STILL TIME. LOOKING AT THE HISTORY OF IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, CAME TO THE CONCLUSION , THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.

AND WARRANTS A UNIQUE SOLUTION

>> WE WILL MOVE FORWARD AND DO VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR?

PLEASE SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSE? >> AND WE HAVE ONE ABSTENTION.

THE MOTION CARRIES. WE DID HAVE A MOTION ON THAT?

[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA]

>> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROV THE BALANCE?

[9.a. Amend FY2023 and FY2024 Biennial Budget. Unanimous consent necessary.]

>> ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY I. ANY OPPOSED? THE CONSENT AGENDA

IS APPROVED. >> ACCOUNTS FOR ADVENTS AND CHANGES THAT OCCURRED IN THE FISCAL YEAR SINCE THE 2023 AND

2024 FISCAL YEAR WAS ADOPTED. >> SECOND. ANYBODY WITH THE COUNCIL HAVE TROUBLE MOVING FORWARD? ANY QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS? >> I HAVE A PROPOSED AMENDMENT.

I PROVIDED TO LINDSAY AND THE CITY MANAGER. THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, 3087. SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED TO MATCH THAT OF

THE COMPETITIVE LAW. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. >> WE HAVE LITTLE INSIGHT INTO

THE BUDGET. >> ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONSIDER ANY REVIEW OF THE CONTRACTS. WE ARE GIVING UP WHAT MINUSCULE AUTHORITY WE HAV ON THE BUDGET EXECUTION.

CURRENT AUTHORITY IS $50,000. >> WHY WAS IT ESTABLISHED AT

$15,000? >> IT WAS MATCHING THE

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THEY COULD BE ADJUSTED TO MATCH THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR TH NEW LAW THAT WAS PASSED. THAT IS WHY WE TIED IT THERE. IT DOUBLED FROM 15 TO 30. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME IT WAS CHANGED

PRIOR TO THIS? >> 2008 IS WHEN IT WENT TO 15,000. DOUBLE WHAT IT WAS IN 1994. IT WAS NOT ALWAYS DOUBLE BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES . THAT KIND OF THING. THE NEW LAW WAS BUILT INTO THIS TO ADJUST FOR

INFLATION STARTING IN 2027. >> RACED ON THE CPI, YES. WHO KNOWS THE PICKETS CHANGED BETWEEN NOW AND 2027.

>> STAFF TECHNICALLY DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SIGN ANY CONTRACT. I SIGNED A LOT OF CONTRACTS ON A DAILY BASIS.

MOST OF THESE THINGS IN THE PRICE RANGE OPERATIONAL FOR THE CITY. THEY ARE NOT POLICYMAKING HE BROUGHT POLICY AUTHORITY AN BIG PICTURE ITEMS ON THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS ON THE CITY. THEY WENT INTO THE FOR AGENDA ITEMS ALONE. IF YOU TAL ABOUT THE NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS IT TOUCHES. AT THE END THAT'S UP TO YOU. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND WE WAITED FOR THE STATE TO CHANGE THE COMPETITIVE MET LAW BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN TIGHT SINCE 1994 TO THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE

TO DISCUSS OFTEN ON. >> DO THEY MATCH COMPETITIVE MET LAW OR DO WE KNOW THE ANSWER?

>> WE DO NOT KNOW. >> I CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT. THE EFFICIENCY OF RUNNING THE CITY, WE HAVE A PROPOSED BUDGET.

>> I ALSO WANT TO REMAIN EMPLOYED. IF SOMETHING GETS UNCOMFORTABLE, THERE ARE THING THAT COME TO YOU GUYS. DO WE HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU? NOT JUST THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT.

SOMETIMES SOMETHING ELSE TO VISIT. THERE'S A LOT OF

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>> WILL IT MAKE YOUR LIFE ANY BETTER OR SIMPLER?

>> YOU STILL HAVE TO SIGN A CONTRACT?

>> I CAN GRANT THE AUTHORITY TO OTHERS AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND WILL GET SOME OF THAT BUT WITH SPENDING LIMITS.

EVEN IF IT IS BEEN THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEYS AND MULTIPLE PEOPLE. I READ THE WHOLE THING. THEY WILL NOT AT YOU. THEY'VE ALL GOT A PHONE CALL FROM ME. WHAT IS IT AND WHY IS IT IN HERE? THIS IS TO OPERATE THE CITY , NOT TO OVERSTEP MY

BOUNDS. >> I WORK WITH CONTRACTS EVERY DAY, SO I UNDERSTAND. BELIEVE ME. TO SIT DOWN AND READ THE

CONTRACTS, THAT IS A LOT. >> MEGAN, I APPRECIATE THE WOR YOU DO. AND HST. AND I TRUST YOU. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT PUT INTO THIS BUDGET. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE THE FACT WE ARE ALL ALLOWED TO ASK ANY QUESTION WE WANT TO OF OUR STAFF. FOR THE MOST MINUTE EXPENSE TO THE LARGEST EXPENSE. WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND THE ABILITY TO ASK IF WE ARE SIMPLY FOLLOWING WHAT WE HAVE DONE AS A CITY. I BELIEVE IT HELPS US . IF IT HELPS YOU, IT HELPS US. AND I KNOW FIRSTHAND WHAT A GRINDER YOU ARE. I APPRECIATE THAT ABOUT YOU. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT. IF WE ARE ALL THROUGH?

>> I APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN GRISWOLD ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

I WILL ALWAYS GET A LOT OF COMFORT KNOWING YOU ARE PUTTIN EYES ON EACH PACKET. I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PIECE IN

PLACE. >> WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK

TO IT. >> QUICKEN VOTE ON IT.

>> ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS AMENDMENT? YOU'LL BE SUPPORTIN THE AMENDMENT. ALL IN FAVOR, POLICE SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSE,

PLEASE SAY NAY. >> HOW CAN YOU HANDLE THAT?

>> TO , AND SEVEN. IT DID NOT CARRY. YOU ARE BACK TO THE

ORDINANCE. >> WE ARE BACK TO THE AMENDMENT FY 2023, FY 2024. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? SURE.

>> POSSIBLY TO REDEEM MY PREVIOUS VOTE.

>> YOU ARE GOOD. >> THIS IS A COMMENT OF THE ENTIRE BUDGETING PROCESS. NOT A SPECIFIC PROPOSED AMENDMENT OR ANYTHING. THE REASON I RAN FOR OFFICE IS TO FIND OUT HOW THING WORK. AND CITY GOVERNMENT. I AM PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AT HOW CONSERVATIVELY THE BUDGET IS DEVELOPED . IN ITS ESTIMATION REVENUE AND EXPENSES. THE COUNCIL DOESN'T DEVELOP THE BUDGET. THE CREDIT FOR THAT GOES TO THE CITY STAFF. WE DO APPROVE THE BUDGET. WE VOTE ON BIG-TICKET ITEMS. THEY ARE PROPOSED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. EVEN THE BIG-TICKET ITEMS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE BUDGETED FOR HAVE TO BE INDIVIDUALLY APPROVED. BEFORE THEY CAN BE PROCURED AND INITIATED. ANY PROCESS CAN BE IMPROVED ON. OU BUDGET PROCESS SEEMS TO WORK.

WANTED TO SAY THAT AS MY FIRST BLUSH IMPRESSIONS OF THIS WHOL BUDGET PROCESS. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOTE DOWN ANY ITEM.

AND CERTAINLY ANY BIG-TICKET ITEM IN PROJECT. IT IS QUITE

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>> THE CITY MANAGER BILLS THE BUDGET ALONG WITH THEIR TEAM.

THEY PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL JUST THE SAME.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAS A COMMENT OR QUESTION?

>> LAST SUMMER, SIX OF US WENT THREE BUDGETING PROCESS. THERE WERE MULTIPLE BUDGET HEARINGS I THINK AT LEAST TWO OF THOSE. W ARE LOOKING AT THE REALITY OF THE LAST 12 MONTHS. WE CAN DO THE VERY ALL RIGHT. WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE

[10.a. Seay Seay & Litchfield Architects. Professionalservices agreement update. Auburn Public Safety Training Center – Phase II Proposal. $61,314.]

[12. CITIZENS’ OPEN FORUM]

FRIENDS? >> THIS IS LOCATED AT 425.

SUMMER HERE WITH ME TODAY. SEVERAL SAID THEY DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING IN FEAR OF RETALIATION. THE NAACP RECEIVE

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>> YES MA'AM. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH.

>> HOLD ON, JUST ONE SECOND. >> MAIL? IF I MAY. I RECEIVED A UPDATE THIS AFTERNOON IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT ARE PRIVATE MATTERS. THEY REALLY OUTLINE A NUMBER OF ISSUES GOIN ON AT THE PARK. IN TERMS OF TH CITY INVOLVEMENT, THE OPERANT POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING WITH THE OWNERS OF THE PARK TO ADDRESS CRIMINAL CONDUCT REPORTED BY THE OWNERS. THE FORMER MANAGER HAS BEEN ARRESTED. THE ITEM WILL BE PURSUED FURTHER AND THERE ARE MANY LEGAL ISSUES RELATIVE BETWEEN THE TENANTS PRIVATELY. AND POTENTIAL CRIMINAL ACTIONS HAVING TO DO WITH THE MANAGERS. IT ENCOURAGES OPERANT POLICE DEPARTMENT , AND THEY TALK TO SOME OF THE RESIDENCE. YOU MAY HAVE REPORTED IMPROPRIETY WHATEVER SORT THAT IS. YOU CAN CONTACT THE NONEMERGENCY NUMBER AT 5013100 AND ASK THAT IT GET THE DETECTIVES THAT THEIR DIREC LINE. THIS WAS SOMETHING I MAD SURE TO KNOW BEFORE THE START OF THE MEETING. WE WANT HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY HAS TO SAY. WE DO HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. THIS IS NOT A IDENTICAL SITUATION TO BRIDLEWOOD IN TERMS OF IT. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING ANYBODY SKIPPING TO THE CITY IN ORDER T BUILD THE PUBLIC ROAD. WE DID TALK ABOUT IT EARLIER. I WENT SPECS AND SERVICES TEAM IS THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND THEY DO GO OUT AND HAVE BEEN. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE OWNER AND MANAGERS. WE HAVE BEEN CHECKIN REGULARLY TO POTHOLES ANOTHER SYCOPHANT BUILDING.

>> I COMMUNICATED WITH MR. DARB WHO WAS OUT OF THE COUNTRY. HE

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>> I HOPE I TALKED TO HIM LATER ON THIS WEEK. BUT HE IS OUT OF

THE COUNTRY. >> PLEASE CONTINUE.

>> MY NAME IS YOLANDA RYLE. AN I HAVE A LEGAL EVICTION. I HAVE PICTURES OF WHERE THEY DUG UP -- WELL, MR. DORY ACCUSED ME OF CAUSING A MAJOR WATER LEAK IN HIS APARTMENT.

SOMETHING I CANNOT OF DONE AT SIX FEET DEEP. I CALLED HIM, I DID NOT DO ANYTHING. HE EVICTED ME. FOR A SIX FOOT DEEP HOLE THAT I CAUSED. I WENT AROUND TO THE APARTMENT, TOOK A PICTURE OF EVERY HOLE HE DUG UP IN THE APARTMENT. I AM EVICTED FOR A WHOLE DUCK UP IN MY HOUSE THAT I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH. I HAVE A NO TRESPASSING SIGN IN T MY HOUSE. HOW CAN I GET IN AND OUT OF MY DOOR WITH A NO TRESPASSING SIGN IN FRONT OF M HOUSE? I HAVE PICTURES OF EVERYTHING. HE IS LEGALLY EVICTING ME. I HAVE BEEN IN THIS PARK OVER 20 SOMETHING YEARS. I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM. YOU HAVE THESE POTHOLES IN HERE BUT YOU WANT TO EVICT ME FOR SOMETHING I HAVE NOT DONE WITH NOTHING I HAVE CONTROL OVER. MR. DARBY HAS SERVED ME IN A LEGAL EVICTION. I CAN SHOW YOU THE PICTURE OF MR. MAYOR. ALL O THESE HOLES I HAVE DUG UP. WHY DO YOU WANT TO EVICT ME FOR SOMETHING I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER?

>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU SHARE THOSE WITH THE CITY MANAGER. I THAT A POSSIBILITY QUESTION MAR YOU HAVE A MINUTE AND 18

SECONDS TO KEEP TALKING. >> MY HUSBAND DIED IN THE PARK.

I HAVE A LEGAL EVICTION. HE PUT A NO TRESPASSING SIGN ACROSS MY YARD AND IT IS STILL THERE. HE'S NOT TRYING TO EVIC ANYBODY ABOUT . I HAVE PICTURES OF ALL OF THEM.

>> SHOWED THIS TO ME AFTER THE MEETING.

>> I'VE BEEN AROUND THE WHOLE PART.

>> IT HAD TO BE A TYPE OF EQUIPMENT TO DIG THESE HOLES. I IS REALLY SAD FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE ON. AND HEARD YOU THAT YOU HAVE TALKED WITH HIM.

>> IT WAS A TEXT. >> YOU COMMUNICATED WITH THIS

TYPE OF STUFF. >> THIS IS NOT JUST STARTED.

THIS HAS STARTED ABOUT THE LAS 20 YEARS.

>> WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING IN BOYKIN. THE MAYOR AND I AND SOME OF THE RESIDENCE THERE. ABOUT THE POTHOLES. THEY PATCHED UP SOME HOLES. THE TYP A JOB I DO, I KNOW THE PATCHIN DOESN'T WORK. YOU HAVE VEHICLE COMING IN AND OUT AND IN AND OUT. IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. IT IS TEMPORARY OF THE SOLUTION.

IT HAS TO BE A REAL SOLUTION BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TEARING UP THEIR CARS. IT IS RIDICULOUS. PARK ALL THE WAY AT THE END OF THE STREET TO GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S HOUSE AROUND THE STREET.

NOBODY WANTS TO TEAR UP THE CAR BUT THEY WANT TO VISIT ONE ANOTHER. SHE ACTUALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ME. I WANT HER TO COME TONIGHT AND EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS TO LET THE PEOPL KNOW IT. WHEREVER HE IS AT, HE' LISTENING. IT'S SAD THAT PEOPL HAVE TO LIVE IN THOSE CONDITIONS. IT IS PUTTING PEOPL

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THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE WHAT IT IS. AUBURN IS A BEAUTIFUL PLANE. WHAT IS THE SLOGAN? LOVELIEST PLAN ON THE VILLAGE? WHATEVER IT IS. NOT --. IT IS NOT FIT INTO THE DESCRIPTION.

>> MISS BRADSHAW? WILL HE FORGIVE ME?

>> MY NAME IS CHRISTINE BERRY. I HAVE PROPERTY AT NORTHGATE STREET IN AUBURN. I DO HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT LIVE THERE AT --. I WILL REPEAT THA I HEARD EVERYTHING SAYING THA YOU HAVE CARE AND PASSION. AN FOR SAFETY FOR PEOPLE AND FOR THE CITIZENS. I HOPE YOU HAVE THE SAME PASSING -- PASSION FO --. YOU MADE A STATEMENT ABOU ADEQUATE AND IMPROVING THE ROLE HAVE THE SAME PASSION. LET US REASON TOGETHER. LET US REASON TOGETHER AND WORK COHESIVELY T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WE ARE ALL IN ONE BIG FAMILY RIGHT HERE. LET'S STAY TOGETHER. IT IS UNITY AND STRENGTH AND WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER. MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD KEEP YOU. LET US DO IT. WITH HELP YOU . WE THANK YOU FOR DOING SUCH A WONDERFUL AND PROFOUND JOB.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARY MOORE. I'M A RESIDENT AT 425 WEBSTER ROAD. AUBURN, HERE ICOM -- I COME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE. I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OF THE RESIDENCE AT WEBSTER CROSSING. I RAISED MY SON STARTING AT HOLIDAY MOBILE STATE. WHEN THE JENKINS SPOTTED, THEY BOUGHT AND MOVED OUT TO LIPSTICK. THEY BOUGHT IT AND MOVED IT TO WEBSTER.

COMPASSION . IF YOU SHARE COMPASSION TO THE OWNER, MR. DOBBY. I SPOKE WITH MR. DOBBY. THE FORMER MAYOR. I WAS APPOINTED AS A LIAISON FOR THE COMMUNITY. NEVER MET WITH HIM ANYMORE. THAT COULD'VE BEEN A PROBLEM SOLVES RIGHT TODAY.

THANK YOU, MR. MCGOWAN, FOR GETTING BACK WITH ME. THE QUESTION I HAD WITH YOU ABOUT THE WATER. I FOUND OUT WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT. IT IS A FEE THEY TACKED ON ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. WE'VE BEEN TACKED ON ONE $36. $136. INCLUDING ME. I'M

[01:35:02]

AND WE SHARE THAT WITH HIM. WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE HIM REALIZE THAT WE ARE PEOPLE TOO AND WE NEED THAT LIVING. THAT WHILE LIVING. THAT IS ALL THEY CAN DO RIGHT NOW. I FEEL PROPE ABOUT THINK SO. MANAGERS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE AT WEBSTER.

THEY HAVE CHANGED OVER TREMENDOUSLY AND HAVE CHANGED RULES AND REGULATIONS. YOU ARE PAYING FOR OFFENSE THAT HAVE PU UP IN PEOPLE'S CHOICE. 40 AND $80. IF IT IS NOT WORKING? IT IS GOING. IT IS GONE. I THINK THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. BE COMPASSIONATE ENOUGH TO SPEAK WITH THEM AGAIN. AGAIN, I'M TH MOTHER THAT HE HAD HERE A LONG TIME AGO.

>> THANK YOU, AND MOVING NEXT.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JENNIFER THOMAS. I AM A RESIDENT OF WEBSTER CROSSING. LIVE AT 1042. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS. EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE, THE ROAD CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN THE SAME. THEY ARE GETTING WORSE.

THEY ARE WORSE. SO. AND THEN THEY GO UP WHENEVER THEY FEEL LIKE IT. IT SHOULD BE MADE TO FIX THESE ROADS. IT HAS NOT BEEN WORKING RIGHT SINCE HE PUT IT UP.

>> THANK YOU. MOVING IN NEXT? ROBERT WILKINS.

>> I HAVE A SPEECH MADE UP, BU I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE IT AFTER ALL THIS. I'VE DONE OVER 12,00 DELIVERIES IN THE LAST 3 1/2 YEARS. I'M HERE FOR THE APPOINTMENT PICKUP. I GO TO WEBSTER CROSSING. I TREAD IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE ALL THE HOLES ARE. BECAUSE IT WAS DIFFICULT T SEE. I THINK IT IS HORRIBLE THAT YOU HAVE SUCH A TERRIBLE PLACE TO HAVE TO GO EVERY DAY. CANNOT IMAGINE. I DON'T HAVE AN CHOICE WHEN I HAVE TO GET A DELIVERY, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'LL BE AT. THEY GIVE M A MAP TO GET AN IDEA. BUT WEBSTER CROSSING IS HORRIBLE. THIS ONE ACROSS THE STREET, KIRKWOOD. BOTH OF THEM HAD THEIRS RECENTLY DONE. NICE AND PAVED, WITH REALLY WIDE AREAS. THERE ARE HUGE HOLES. SOME OF THEM COULD SWALLOW UP A CAR IF YOU GET THEM RIGHT. I THINK IT IS REALLY HORRIBLE. THE ONE WHERE GOODWILL IS, YOU GO THROUGH BEHIND THE TRAILER AREA AND I SEE NOTHING WRONG. I KNO YOUR GOAL AS A CITY IS TO GET RID OF THE TRAILER PARKS. I THINK THE QUALITY SHOULD BE THERE. THERE IS A NEED FOR TRAILER PARKS. THERE IS A NEED FOR DIFFERENT HOUSING. YOU GET OF THE HOUSING TOO HIGH, THEY CANNOT AFFORD IT. IT'S IMPORTANT YOU BE CAREFUL ON SOME THINGS YOU CAN GET RID OF WHEN HE HEARS SOME HORRIBLE THING THAT WEBSTER CROSSING IS DOING. THE GENTLEMAN THAT OWNS THAT SHOULD BE ASHAMED. I'VE LIVED IN THE COUNTRY AND WHEN I HAD TRACTORS AND BECAUSE SINCE

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WILL BE NEXT? BABE -- >> . WE WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS. ANYTHING FROM THE COUNCIL? I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. AND, WE WILL CERTAINLY DO OUR PART TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF THE CITY. THROUGH ALL OF IT. I HEAR YOUR FRUSTRATION. AND I HEAR SOME O YOUR DESPERATION. AND I GET IT. WE SHOULD ALL BE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A PLACE TO LAY OUR HEADS O EACH NIGHT. I UNDERSTAND, THANK

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