Nov 09, 2023 Planning Commission

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WE CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF AUBURN.

WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A QUORUM. WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE THAT HAS COME OUT FOR THE MEETING TONIGHT. WE HAVE NOW ON OUR AGENDA THE FIRST THING IS CITIZEN COMMUNICATION SO IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT IS NOT RELATED TO ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA FEEL FREE TOCOME FORWARD NOW . WHEN YOU COME FORWARD THERE IS A SIGN IN SHEET WE NEED YOU TO SIGN GIVING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. BEFORE YOU SPEAK TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU LEFT IT STARTING ON THE WHICH IS TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION

AT THIS TIME? >> MR. CHAIR IF I COULD ADD THE AGENDA ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AGENDA ITEM 1 AND EIGHT DO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE AS WELL.

>> IF THERE IS NO END TO BRING ANYTHING TO THE COMMUNICATION I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OLD

[CONSENT AGENDA ]

>> MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> SECOND THOSE IN FAVOR SAY

AYE. >> THE AGENDA IS NOW APPROVED THAT BRINGS US TO NEW BUSINESS.

[2. Rezoning - Holley Reese - PUBLIC HEARING RZ-2023-015]

>> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REESE ZONING OF APPROXIMATELY 2.8 ACRES FROM RURAL TO LIMITED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1729 OLD RIGHTS MILL ROAD.

YOU WILL SEE THE PROPERTY IS MAINLY SURROUNDED BY PROPERTIES IN THE RURAL DON'T ZONE DISTRICT. THERE'S A SMALL DISTRICT TO THE SOUTH AND SOME ASKED TO THE NORTH.THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE AREA IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WHICH CALLS FOR AN AVERAGE DENSITY OF FOUR UNITS PER ACRE. THAT IS THE MAIN FUTURE LAND USE WITH DESIGNATION IN THIS AREA OTHER THAN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTH. WE RECEIVED THREE PHONE CALLS FOR THE REQUEST AND I'M HERE TO

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUICKLY THE TWO LIGHTS THAT LOOKED LIKE TO CUT OUT AT THIS

LATE WHAT DO THEY FRONT?>> I BELIEVE THEY ARE THE MOUTH OF THIS STREET HERE IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE ANNEXATION. DOES THE PETITIONER HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD REQUEST? WE DO NEED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

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>> MY NAME IS KIMBERLY ARMSTRONG. I AM HERE WITH MY HUSBAND HASN'T KEVIN OSBORNE AND I HAVE A DAUGHTER. WE ARE REQUESTING THE STRAY NOTE REZONING SO WE COULD TELL THE FUTURE HOME ON THE SAME LOT AS MY PARENTS.

THEY ARE AGING AND ONE OF THEM WHICH IS 100% DEPENDENT ON A CAREGIVER AND I AM THE ONLY CHILD HERE. MY BROTHER LIVES IN FLORIDA SO I ASKED THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT

AND GRANT US THIS. >> IS ANYONE ELSE THAT WAS WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS REZONING REQUEST? IF NOT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE ASK THE STAFF IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE CASE

RZ ? 2023 ? 15. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. THAT WE FORWARD THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOST IN SAY AYE ANY OPPOSED?

THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. >> WOULD COME TO THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS WHICH IS A REZONING

[3. Rezoning - Initial Outfitters - PUBLIC HEARING RZ-2023-016]

FROM ANINITIAL OUTFITTERS . >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. FOR THIS ITEM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 6 ACRES FROM INDUSTRIAL TO COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT CDD. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT SKYWAY DRIVE BY THE INTERSECTION OF SKYWAY AND GLENN GOING OUT TOWARDS

OPELIKA. IT'S REZONING. >> THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE AREA IS OFFICE PARK. THERE'S A VARIETY OF OTHER USES SURROUNDING THE GATEWAY COMMERCIAL AND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL DUE TO FUTURE LAND USE INCOMPATIBILITY. WHILE CDD DOES ALLOW FOR THE COMPONENTS IN THE OFFICE PARK WHICH IS DEFINED AS THE AVERAGE BREAKDOWN OF 85% OFFICE, 15% COMMERCIAL. THAT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT AND CDD HOWEVER THERE ARE OTHER PERMANENT BY RIGHT USES THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW THE FUTURE LAND USE.

INDUSTRIAL IS OWNED AND ALLOWED A CONDITIONAL USE. THERE IS A VARIETY OF OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES THAT APPLY. IF IN THE FUTURE CONDITIONAL USE PROPOSAL WAS FOR OFFICE COMMERCIAL STAFF WOULD SUPPORT IT IF IT'S ALIGNED WITH THE FUTURE.

ANY QUESTIONS AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEECH. >> THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW

WOULD BE LIKE MANUFACTURING. >> THERE IS A CURRENT PLAN OF THE USE OF THE SITE.

THIS WAS IN 2013. QUICK THINKING OF IS THE PETITIONER HERE AND AS HE OR

SHE WISHED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? >> GOOD EVENING.

BRETT GET FLASKAMP I'M HERE WITH THE GROUP REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

ON THIS PARTICULAR REZONING WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD APPLICATION MEETING ON OCTOBER 9 WITH STAF . CONVERSATION WITH STAFF WAS POSITIVE AT THE TIME.

WE EXPLAINED WHAT WE WERE WANTING TO DO ANDTHE USE . THEY BASICALLY SAID THERE WASN'T MUCH IN PRESENTING THE CDD WAS THE ONLY POTENTIAL USE AND ZONING TO GO TO.

WE ARE PROPOSING TO REDEVELOP THE SITE AS A CHURCH. AND BASICALLY IT RENOVATE THE BUILDING TO RELOCATE AN EXISTING CHURCH.AFTER THAT MEETING WE SUBMITTED THE REZONING PACKAGE THE FOLLOWING WEEK AND THEN LAST WEEK RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM STAFF

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THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL IS THAT ZONING ALLOWS FOR A VARIETY OF USES I WRITE THAT DO NOT ALIGN WITH THE INTENDED OFFICE PARK PICTURE I HAVE IS IS THE AMOUNT OF THE ADJAZONING.

AS YOU CAN SEE THE FRONTAGE ON EACH EAST OF GLAVENUE AVENUE IS CDD.

THE ONLY NON-CDD PROPERTY THAT THERE IS IS THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

IRONICALLY 6 TO 8 YEARS AGO I REZONED THE PROPERTY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ZONED NZ 15 TO CDD AT A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AT THE TIME THE THOUGHT WAS THE PROPERTY HAD FRONTAGE ON EAST GLENN AND ANITA TO BCDC ZONING.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE NOW IS MY QUESTION. WE ARE LIMITED AND ZONING OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE CDD IS PRETTY MUCH OUR MOST OFTEN USED COMMERCIAL ZONING WHILE IT IS PERMISSIVE THAN OTHERS WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER OPTION.

WE HAVE ONE MAIN COMMERCIAL ZONING AND ITS LIMITED AFTER THAT.

THAT'S WHY WE WERE PROPOSING THE CDD ZONING. PLEASE GO TO THE WE ARE RIGHT ON THE COAST THE CITY OF AUBURN AND CO. PALATKA ZONING LINE.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE ARE CHANGING SOMETHING OR DOING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ON THE OFFER INSIDE OR OPELIKA SIDE. EVERYTHING HERE IS CDD WHETHER THAT'S THE AIRPORT OR PART OF THE SCHOOL IF YOU LIKE THIS PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE CDD ZONING. AN ENGINE UNDERSTAND WHY IT HAS INDUSTRIAL.

WHEN THIS IS REZONED EFFECT IN 84 INDUSTRIAL WAS PROBABLY THE APPROPRIATE USE WHICH WAS BEFORE THE AIRPORT. THEY REDID THE WHOLE ENTRANCE. THE ONLY THING THAT'S ACTIVE INDUSTRIAL THAT'S FAIR NOW IS A CONCRETE PLAN ON PENN CREEK DRIVE.

CURRENTLY WITHIN THE THREE SERVICES THERE WOULD BE JUST ONE SERVICE AND OCCUPY THE 500 SEATS. AT THE EXISTING FACILITY THIS 250 PARKING SPACES ARE ADJACENT PROPERTIES OWNED OWNERS ARE ON BOARD IF WE NEED CHART SHARED PARKING IN THE FUTURE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE FACILITIES WHICH ARE MOSTLY COMMERCIAL IF THE NEED ARISES.

E DON'T ENVISION THAT BEING NEEDED ANYTIME SOON THEY GO TO TWO SERVICES INSTEAD OF ONE.

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IT HAS THE APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO HANDLE SUNDAY TRAFFIC AS WELL.

IF YOU LIKE ZONING AT THIS LOCATION IS APPROPRIATE. IT'S REALLY BELT FOR A SPECIFIC USE ONLY AND IT'S NO LONGER ACTIVE. MOST OF THE OPERATIONS IS OUT OF THEIR AND THE BUILDING IS NOT A TRADITIONAL WAREHOUSE. TRYING TO USE IT FOR THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT AND TOUGH. WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD USE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING OPENING

OF OTHER COMMERCIAL AREAS BE HAPPY ANSWERING QUESTIONS. >> WOULD CHURCHES BE STARTING A SCHOOL ARE EXPECTING US TO APPROVE SCHOOL? I'M NOT SURE THAT'S APPROPRIATE

FOR THE SITE. >> THERE IS NO INTENTION FOR A SCHOOL OR DAYCARE FOR THIS CHURCH. IN REGARDS TO THIS THIS IS MORE OF AN URBAN CHURCH LOCATION ANYWAYS. THERE'S NOT A CAMPUS FOR YOU TO DO THAT ON.

WHAT'S I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? IF NOT WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS OR RAISE ANY POINTS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL? I SEE NUNS WITH A CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSION DO YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> I CAME IN LOOKING AT THIS IS TRY TO CREATE MORE CDD OVERTIME. IF I LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT'S COMPATIBLE IS THE SAME SORT OF ZONING UP AND DOWN THAT CORRIDOR.

WE WOULD HAVE GROWTH OVER TIME IF THEY ADD SOME KIND OF SCHOOL OR THAT SORT OF THING WITH CHILDREN IN THE AREA THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE. I THINK I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS

REZONING. >> I WOULD AGREE FAIL. THE FUTURE LAND USE PURCHASES THE CURRENT LAND USE ALONG THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR IT'S COMPLETELY COMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING

THAT'S ALREADY THERE. >> WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE SITE?

>> AT 6 ACRES QUICK SO ARE WE CREATING A SPOT OF ZONING HERE? " I THINK OVER TIME BECAUSE OF

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OF USE. >> IS ANYONE PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION?

WHAT'S A MOVE TO APPROVE RZ- ? 2023 ? 016. >> SECOND.

>> THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED?

>> NO. >> .

TWO. >> WE ARE GOING TO NUMBER THREE.

[4. Conditional Use - ACC Academy - PUBLIC HEARING CU-2023-035]

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE COMMUNITY CHURCH ACADEMY. >> THIS IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL FOR AN INSTITUTIONAL USE SPECIFICALLY A PRIVATE SCHOOL LOCATED AT 2200 HAMILTON ROAD. THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 16 AND A HALF ACRES AND IS LOCATED IN THE LTD ZONING DISTRICT WITH AN OVERLAY OF THE CONSERVATION OVERLAY DISTRICT.

THE CORNERSTONE CHURCH IS TO THE NORTH. WE HAVE MAPCO HERE.

PUBLIX, CVS IS HERE AND OFFICES ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION HERE AND RESIDENTIAL HERE.

HERE IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE CHURCH. IT ENCOMPASSES APPROXIMATELY 47,000 FT.? ON THE PROPOSED SCHOOL AREA WOULD TAKE UP ABOUT 12,000 FT.? OF THAT AREA.

THE SCHOOL IS SCHEDULED TO START AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 2024 SCHOOL YEAR AND WILL BEGIN WITH THE GRADES K THROUGH TO APPROXIMATELY 20 STUDENTS PER GRADE.THE PLAN WOULD BE TO INCREASE ONE RATE PER YEAR UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 1000 STUDENTS. THE HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD BE FROM 7:15 AM TO 3:15 PM. NO AFTERSCHOOL ACTIVITIES ARE PLANNED.

THEY WILL HAVE PRIVATE TRAFFIC CONTROL ON-SITE TO ASSIST WITH DROP OFF IN THE MORNINGS.

THE APPLICANT DID HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY PERFORMED THIS MONTH THAT INDICATES THE DRIVEWAYS HERE ON HAMILTON ARE SUFFICIENT TO ACCOMMODATE ANY TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRIVATE SCHOOL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS BEING THAT THERE IS A MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT OF 100 STUDENTS AND THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THAT CONDITION.

>> THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT 100 STUDENTS? >> YES THAT'S CORRECT.

>> ANYONE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT?

>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. WE'VE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL SO WE ARE FINE WITH THE CONDITIONS. THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE ASSUMING 100 STUDENTS WITH DAY ONE. THE THOUGHT IS LIKE WE SAID WE START WITH THREE GRADES AND 20 PER GRADE STARTED 60 AND GROW. ONCE WE GET TO 100 STUDENTS WE EITHER NEED MORE FACILITIES SO

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>> WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. IF ANYONE WISHES TO ASK QUESTIONS OR RAISE ANY ISSUES REGARDING THIS PROJECT WE WOULD BE PLEASED TO HEAR THEM NOW.

NO ONE THAT I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION.

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE CU 2023 ? 035 WITH CONDITIONS.

>> SECOND. >> THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE ANY OPPOSED?

THE MOTION CARRIES. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE SONIC TOOLS.

[5. Conditional Use - Sonic Tools - PUBLIC HEARING CU-2023-036]

>> THIS IS CONDITIONAL USE FOR SONIC TOOLS. THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR COMMERCIALS SUPPORT USE FOR WAREHOUSE INTEGRATION FACILITY. THE LOCATION OF 177 TECHNOLOGY PARKWAY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED AS LIGHT 18 OF THE TECHNOLOGY PARK WITH THE CONDITION OF COMPRISED OF 11.49 ACRES WITH AN EXISTING 2800 FT.? AND EFFECTUAL FACILITY. THE USES COMPATIBLE AND STAFF RECOMMENDS FOR APPROVAL.

>> IS THERE ANYONE REPRESENTING THE INDUSTRIAL BOARD OR THE APPLICANT? IF NOT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.S EVERYONE HERE WISHING TO ADDRESS OR ASK QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROJECT? THERE IS NONE SO WE WILL CLOSE

A PUBLIC HEARING. >> I WILL KNOW TO APPROVE CU 2023 ? 36.

SECQUICK SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. DO WE HAVE ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

[6. Conditional Use - The Vintage Expansion - PUBLIC HEARING CU-2023-042]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE VINTAGE EXPANSION. >> THIS IS THE VINTAGE EXPANSION. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY COMPRISES OF APPROXIMATELY 6.12 ACRES AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE VACANT LOT WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY .2 ACRES OF THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN UNDER FOOT-WIDE ALABAMA POWER TRANSMISSION EASEMENT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THE ZONING DISTRICT IS CDD. THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL.

>> IS HER NUMBER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PETITION?I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DOES ANYONE WISHING TO ASK QUESTIONS OR DISCUSS THIS MATTER?

>> MY NAME MARIANNE STYLES AND WE ARE THE LOT RIGHT IN BETWEEN THIS PROPOSED CHANGE OFF EAST UNIVERSITY AND WE ARE PLANNING AS THERE IS A ASCENT ARE THERE FOR MY SON'S DENTAL OFFICE.

THIS WAS REPURCHASED ABOUT HAVING ACCESS SHARED SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO GET TO OUR

LOTS AND WE ARE NOT SHUT OFF FROM EAST UNIVERSITY. >> SO YOUR LOSS IS IN FRONT.

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>> IT DOES FRONT IT. WE ARE SMALL ENOUGH AND THIS IS BEFORE HE SOLD THAT WE WERE CAN HAVE A D CELL LEAN AND SHARE THAT. WE ARE TLL TO HAVE THAT

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU APPROVE THE STEP WE ARE NOT CUT OFF.>> THE PARCEL SHE'S MENTIONING IS EASED OF THE BLACK-AND-WHITE BORDER. ADJACENT TO THAT AS BREWSTER'S AND SO THAT'S WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT ACCESS. THEY WILL BE FINE HAVING

SEPARATE ACCESS. >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THOSE?

WE WILL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING. >> THE AXES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT STAFF RECOMMENDS A DEVELOPMENT PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ACCESS IS A COMMENT THAT IT SHOULD BE EXPLORED NOT CONVINCED WITHOUT WORDING. DO WE NEED TO MAKE THE

CONDITION A LITTLE STRONGER? >> INITIALLY WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT CAME IN THERE WAS A JOINT CURB CUT ON THE PROPERTY LINE IT WAS EASED PAST THE WETLANDS.

THERE WAS ACCESS AT THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST.

THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NO LONGER PROPOSING AN INDIRECT ACCESS TO THE UNIVERSITY DRIVE HOWEVER WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO EXPLORE ACROSS ACCESS TO THE EAST. THEY ARE NOW CONNECTED TO THE

WESTSHORE LANDING PRIVATE DRIV . >> THIS IS A DUMPSTER PAD.

>> WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO DETERMINE THE BEST PLACE FOR THE ACCESS.

QUICK SUMMARY OF THE STEP HOUSE WE HAVE IT REQUIRED TO BE COMPLETED.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE? >> WOULD ACTUALLY SUGGEST THAT

WITH THE SITE PLAN. >> HE WOULDN'T MAKE IT A CONDITIONAL USE?

>> IT IS A PLAN AND COMMENT NOT A CONDITION. IT WOULD BE A VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF QUICKLY DON'T HAVE ACROSS ACCESS THERE.

HOW WILL IT BE ACCESSED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET A CURB CUT. >> THE PROPERTY WAS SUBDIVIDED PRIOR TO THE ZONING REGULATIONS IN 19 87. TYPICALLY OUR POLICY HAS BEEN FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE SUBDIVIDED BEFORE WE HAVE CURB CUT REGULATIONS THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED A CURB CUT SO WE WORK WITH MY STYLES TO DETERMINE THE BEST PLACE AND WE WOULD WANT THE CROSS ACCESS TO BREWSTER'S BECAUSE WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED THEY ACTUALLY STEPPED ACROSS

THE ACCESS TOWARDS THE SOUTH PROPERTY. >> YOU ARE STILL RECOMMENDING

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OR ENCOURAGING THAT THERE BE CROSS ACCESS TO THE SOUTH. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> ABSOLUTELY WE CAN GET CROSS ACCESS FROM WESTSHORE LANDING TO GET GATEWAY DRIVE THAT WOULD

GREAT. >> THE SITE PLAN SHOWS THAT AREA.

AS AN INSTRUMENT OF ALL? >> NOT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. >> THAT'S WHY IT'S A COMMENT.

IT CAN CAN BE ACCOMMODATED AT THAT AREA IS NOT TOO BAD TO CONSTRUCT AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE THEM TO CONSIDER EXITS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECT IN THIS CASE AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE NUANCED JUST DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF WETLANDS THERE.

ALSO THE OTHER PROPERTY STILL BEING ABLE TO GET ACCESS. OBVIOUSLY WE ENCOURAGE THAT AND

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THIS. >> WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

OR DISCUSSION? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE CU 2023 ? 042.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.THE NEXT ITEM IS CAF? RACER.

[7. Conditional Use - Café Racer - PUBLIC HEARING CU-2023-043]

>> THIS REQUEST IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL FOR A ROAD SERVICE USE SPECIFICALLY FAST FOOD RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH LOCATED AT 204 AND OPELIKA ROAD ON THE CORNER

OF NORTHGATE AND OPELIKA ROAD. >> YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY IS ZONED WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT URBAN OR OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CRD YOU. IT IS SURROUNDED ON THREE SIDES BY THE ZONING DISTRICT AND RED IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST. THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS MIXED USE TO WHICH HAS AN INTENTION OF MORE MIXED-USE URBAN CHARACTER THAT ENCOURAGES WALK ABILITY NEAR THE OREGON CORE. IT'S PARTICULARLY LOOKING FOR HIM MORE URBAN CHARACTER ACROSS THE CORE DOORS SO BLACK AND NORTHGATE WOULD APPLY AS THOSE MAJOR CORE DOORS. HERE YOU CAN SEE A SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT TOO SMALL BUT THEY HAVE A BUILDING SPACE HERE AT ABOUT 1500 FT.? THAT INCLUDES A WALK-UP AND A DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE SALE OF COFFEE AND DONUTS. THEY ALSO HAVE 700 FT.? OF COVERED PATIO OUTDOOR SEATING AND 20 ONSET PARKING SPACES. THERE ARE ENTRANCES FROM BOTH OPELIKA ROAD AND NORTHGATE.

THERE IS ONLY ONE EXIT WHICH IS AT THE NORTHERN PORTION. THERE IS ALSO ONLY ONE ENTRANCE INTO THE DRIVE THROUGH ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. WE WOULD BE REQUIRING A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY TO BE SUBMITTED WITH THE CONDITION USE REQUEST. STAFF IS WORKING ON AND ON DENIAL WITH IT BEING COMPATIBLE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ITS MIXED-USE AND URBAN CHARACTER. WE RECEIVED ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL QUICK STATUS WILL MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD HOW IT'S TRACKED.

THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING CLOSE TO THE BUILDING IS THE DRIVE THROUGH TRAFFIC ONLY.

>> WE WILL OPEN THE MEETING. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSION MY NAME IS BRAD GALLEN I'M

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IT BECAME A DESTINATION FOR FOLKS AND FOR STUDENTS AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

HAVING CAUGHT PROVERBIAL LIGHTING THEY DECIDED LET'S CONTINUE THIS MOMENTUM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. I'M HAPPY TO SAY IT'S DOING WELL AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE DO AND GIVE HISTORY ABOUT YOUR TYPICAL QS ARE FAST FOOD. I DON'T INTEND TO BE.

THE COMPARABLE TO THOSE COMPANIES AS 85 TO 90% OF THE BUSINESS OF THOSE COMPANIES IS GOING OUT THE DRIVE THROUGH. PRESS IN THE TRAILER IT'S NOT A GREAT EXAMPLE.

LITERALLY EVERYTHING IS WALK-U . AT THE NEW ATHENS LOCATIONS IT WAS BUILT IN AND OPENED IN AUGUST. THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT GOING FOR THE PRELIMINARY TOGETHER AND THIS IS STILL VERY PRELIMINARY.

IT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO GET PLANNING SO HE HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT THE COMMENTS WERE GOING TO BE. WHEN WE ORIGINALLY PUT THE SITE PLAN TOGETHER IT ONLY HAD ONE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE AND THAT WAS EXPECTATION WAS THAT IT WOULD BE PLENTY.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A DRIVE-THROUGH THAT'S GREAT. COME ENJOY YOUR BREAKFAST OR LUNCH AND HANG OUT WITH US FOR A WHILE. NOT COME IN QUICKLY AND GET YOUR FOOD AND GET OUT OF HERE. THE DRAFTER COMPONENT IS OBVIOUSLY A NECESSITY FOR ONE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROPERTY IT'S NOT EXPENSIVE. WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK.

JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE INTEND TO DO. RIGHT NOW WE LOVE THE GREEN SPACE AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE GREEN SPACE ON THE CORNER. WE ARE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT CERTAIN INTO THE SOUTH INTO THE EAST IT'S COMMERCIAL. TO THE NORTH ITS RESIDENTIAL. BE VERY MINDFUL OF THAT.

WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT AND CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS ALL THAT MORE GREEN AND MORE SPACIOUS THAN YOUR TRADITIONAL FAST FOOD ON THE CORNER THAT'S JUST BLOWING PEOPLE THROUGH.

SHE. >> IN TALKING WITH THE PLANNING TEAM AND TAKING WITH ARIEL THE PROPERTIES BEEN UNDEVELOPED FOR 7 TO 8 YEARS NOW.

I'M SURE WITH A LARGE PART TO IT IN THE CORNER IT ALSO HAS DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGES.

A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH AND THEN I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS. IT'S THE HARD CORNER GIVEN THE IT'S A GUEST CONVENIENCE STORE.

IT'S CONTAMINATION ON SITE. IT WAS CLEANED BACK IN 2016 AND 2017 WITH THE ALABAMA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT. IT SPECIFICALLY STATES THEIR

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WE THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH HERE. WE ARE NOT YOUR NATIONAL FAST FOOD CHAIN. WE DON'T WANT TO BE YOUR NATIONAL FAST FOOD CHAIN.

WE ARE PAYING FOR THE ASSOCIATES AND IT'S VERY PROUD TO SAY THE LOCATION ATHENS HAS BEEN THREE MONTHS NOW. WE HAVEN'T HAD A SINGLE PERSON. FOR FAST FOOD THAT IS DIFFICULT TO SAY THE LEAST. BUT THAT COMPANY OR ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I THINK THAT IT'S A MATE MADE CLEAR FROM THE STAFF THAT THIS TRAFFIC PATTERN IS A CONCERN. THE INGRESS AND EGRESS IS A CONCERN SOME CURIOUS WITH THE EXTRA SPACE WHY YOU AREN'T WILLING TO RECONFIGURE THAT ACCESS.

>> A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST AND FOREMOST I WANT TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT IF THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE ACCESS POINTS THERE ARE THREE EXISTING INGRESS AND EGRESS POINTS. WE CONSOLIDATE INTO ONE. WE DON'T INTEND ON DEVELOPING ON RIGHT NOW. WE CONSOLIDATE INTO A SINGLE PERPARCEL.

OUR INTENT IS TO LEAVE THE GREEN SPACE FOR NOW AT SOME POINT WE WILL SELL IT BUT THAT'S NOT OUR INTENT AS I STAND HERE RIGHT NOW. IT'S MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT WE STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS MORE TO THE EXTENT THAT.> AND THE DAMAGE THAT YOU HAVE HERE IS TRULY ON THAT CORNER LOT.NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT WE WILL BE A NEIGHBOR BUT OBVIOUSLY BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT THAT PROPERTY IS FLOODED AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S FLOODING MORE THAN A FEW TIMES OVER THE LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS WHEN GUN 3/10.

>> WOULD YOU CONSIDER THE LEFT-HAND TURN INTO THE PROPERTY BEING PROBLEMATIC?

>>. AYES, SIR. Q?

>> WOULD YOU CONSIDER JUST HAVING RIGHT HAND TURNS INTO THE PROPERTY?

>> IS SOMETHING WE WOULD CONSIDER. OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN OUT TO THE

PROPERTY A NUMBER OF TIMES OBVIOUSLY.>> WE WERE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WANTING TO ENSURE THAT IT OUR RIGHT MOVEMENT.WE WERE WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED AND THAT'S GOING TO STATE SOMETHING AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO ENSURE YOU HAVE THE LEFT-HAND MUTE MOVEMENT OFF OF OPA-LOCKA. I THINK WE WOULD FORGO THE LEFT-HAND MUSIC MOVEMENT. AGAIN AT 5:00 THIS AFTERNOON MAKING A LEFT BECAUSE THE WAY THE LIGHT CYCLES WASN'T TERRIBLY CHALLENGING AND OBVIOUSLY MAKING IT LEFT ONTO THE WESTERN ACCESS POINT WAS NOT TERRIBLY CHALLENGING GIVING THAT THERE IS A LIGHT IMMEDIATELY SOUTH TO THE FOUR STORAGE FACILITY. THOSE LIFECYCLE AND ALLOW FOR MORE MOVEMENTS ON THE LEFT. WE ARE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE COMFORTABLE IN THE PLANNING GROUP HAS BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE SAVED.

THE MOVEMENT NEEDS TO BE SAVED. A SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS WE TRY TO ALLEVIATE THAT BY OFFERING JUST A RIGHT AND. WE WILL LIMIT TO A LEFT AND OFF OF OPA-LOCKA.

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>> THE MAIN REASON HERE IS BECAUSE OF THIS DRIVE-THROUGH. IT MAKES IT A ROAD SERVICE USE.

>> DO THEY WANT MORE AND ATHENS? WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS

DISCUSSION IF YOU THAT THE SYSTEM CORRECTLY. >> 100%.

AS I MENTIONED AT THE ATHENS LOCATION IT'S ABOUT 50-50 BUSINESS SO IT IS 50% WALK-UP AND 50% DRIVE-THROUGH AND I WALK UP I MEAN GENERALLY PEOPLE COMING AND PARKING THEIR CARS

ORDERING AND SITTING DOWN AND STAYING, THAT'S THE ATMOSPHERE. >> THE DRIVE-THROUGH DOESN'T

ACCOMMODATE THAT? >> IT UNDERMINES THAT. >> YOU ARE 100% RIGHT.

WE SEE THAT IS COMPLEMENTARY. WE SEE THAT AS AN ORDER AND QUITE FRANKLY TO DO THE BUSINESS WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY WALK-UP BUSINESS WILL GET IT SO FAR IN THE DRAFTER COMPONENT IS A NECESSARY PART OF OUR BUSINESS.

>> WHAT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THAT LOOK LIKE? >> WE BACK IN THE

NEIGHBORHOOD? >> THE GROUND IF THAT'S OPEN RIGHT NOW IS FAIRLY COMMERCIAL.

>> IS THE EQUIVALENT OF SIMILAR OUT ON OPA-LOCKA ROAD THAT'S CONSIDERED MORE COMMERCIAL. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM STARTING CONSTRUCTION ON A SITE THAT IS EERILY SIMILAR TO THIS. EXHIBIT A STRONG CRAFT TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF TOWN WITH A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL GROUND AND RESIDENTIAL THAT IS HISTORICALLY NOT NECESSARILY THE MIDDLE INCOME THAT WE KNOW AND LOVE. IT IS A VERY GENTRIFYING AREA THAT HAS SEEN THE CHANGE SO TO SPEAK. QUITE FRANKLY I WAS VERY SURPRISED THAT THE LOCAL RESIDENTS OF THAT AREA DID NOT PUSH BACK ON SOME OF THAT. IT'S A DRAFTER COMPONENT PART

OF THAT. >> WHAT'S THE PROXIMITY TO KEEPING THIS?

>> THE PERSIMMON PROXIMITY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> IT IS HALF A MILE TOPS.

MAYBE THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE. >> ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF THE CATHO APPLICANT? IT'S NOT TIME TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DOESANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS OR RAISE ANY POINTS ABOUT THIS

PARTICULAR PETITION ? >> I WILL. GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS GENJIM COOK. I'M A PROPERTY OWNER DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

I OWN A LOT AND HUNDRED AND 20-YEAR-OLD HOUSE. NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION IS WITHIN HITHE HISTORIC DISTRICT WELL. I WELCOME THE CAF? AS A SITDOWN RESTAURANT BUT I'M OPPOSED TO A DRIVE-THROUGH IN THAT LOCATION. I'M OPPOSED TO IT FOR TWO REASONS. I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE SPIRIT OF THE HISTORIC OVERLAY.

I REALIZE IT'S NOT IN THE HISTORIC OVERLAY BUT I DON'T THINK DRIVE-THROUGH FAST FOOD RESTAURANT IS IN THE HISTORIC OVERLAY INTEREST. THE TRAFFIC I AGREE WITH THE WALK ABILITY IF THE PLANNING GUYS BROUGHT UP A TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION IS ALREADY PRETTY HEAVY. IF THE CAF? WOULD LOOK AT ENCOURAGING WHILE WALKING TRAFFIC THERE IS A LOT OF WALKING TRAFFIC. I WAS CURIOUS WHAT THE HOURS OF

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>> ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR IMPROVING THAT INTERSECTION? >> .

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEARING IT STILL OPEN? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC

HEARING NOW.>> JUST AGAIN WITH RESPECT TO THE USE OBVIOUSLY AS YOU POINTED OUT.

I'M STANDING HERE BECAUSE IT'S A DRIVE-THROUGH. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I THINK THAT'S WORTH STATING.

>> BASICALLY COMMISSIONERS I THINK WE HAVE A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION.

AS PART OF OUR DOWNTOWN AND THERE'S MANY WHO FEEL THAT DRIVE-THROUGH'S IN THE DOWNTOWN SHOULD BE PEDESTRIAN DOMINATED. AND DRIVE-THROUGH'S INTERFERE WITH THAT THAN THOSE OTHERS

THAT SAY WE HAVE DRIVE-THROUGH'S. >> I DO NOT FAVOR DRAFTERS IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT FOR QUITE A WHILE.

MY VIEW IS I REALLY HOPE THAT THIS WORKS OUT IT IS IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A GREAT OPERATION.

IT ONLY TO DRIVE THEIR CAR WERE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS IN THE DOWNTOWN

AREA. >> IS ANYONE ELSE WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT?

>> TO SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MISSMOTION? >> I MAKE A MOTION FOR CU 2023

THAT ? 043 CAF? RACER FOR DENIAL. >> IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED THAT WE RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THIS. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? IF NOT I WILL CALL FOR A VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY I AYE THOSE OPPOSED? I THINK WE NEED A ROLL CALL.

DENIAL IS APPROVED. UNANIMOUSLY. THAT WAS FOR THE ROAD SERVICE

[8. Waiver - Richardson Lot 2-B1 WZ-2023-007]

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THAT'S 4439 SAND HILL ROAD. >> THIS IS A WAIVER TO ALLOW THE SUBDIVISION OF LAND THE LOTS CONTAINING LESS THAN 3 ACRES WITHIN THE PLANNING JURISDICTION AND OPTIMAL BOUNDARY. THERE'S OPTIMAL BOUNDARY. IT'S THE AFRICAN IS REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THE SUBDIVISION TO SUBDIVIDE THE LOT AND TO BE ONE OF EVELYN EDWARDS COMPRISING OF 3.10 ACRES. IT WILL REZONE AN LOT TO BE WITH 1.39 ACRES.

ARTICLE 4 SECTION E FOR PART THREE IS A MINIMUM LOT AREA OF THE REGULATION WHICH STATES THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR ANY SUBDIVISION WITHIN THE PLANNING JURISDICTION AND THE COMP PLAN DOES NOT SERVE BY PUBLIC SEWAGE COLLECTION AND TREATMENT SYSTEMS SHALL BE 3 ACRES.

WHAT THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS FOR DENIAL. >> IS THE APPLICANT HERE DID

THEY WISH TO COMMENT? >> GOOD EVENING I'M KELLY RUSSELL.

>> WHERE THE APPLICANT'S. WE ARE CURRENTLY THE RESIDENCE OF 4439 SAND HILL.

DOCTOR RICHARDSON IS CURRENTLY THE OWNER OF THE PARCEL. WE OWN THE PARCEL THAT IS ADJACENT SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THIS WE OWN THE YELLOW SECTION AND WE ARE REQUESTING FOR THE SINGLE HOME AND ACCESSORY CARPORT STRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO BE SUBDIVIDED FROM THE OTHER PIECE WHICH IF YOU LOOK AT THE PIECE REMAINING IN RED CURRENTLY BELONGS TO DOCTOR RICHARDS AS WELL AS THE HOUSE AND YOU CAN SEE THE LOT LINE CURRENTLY IN YELLOW.

WE WORKED WITH LOGAN ABOUT OPTIONS AND TO MEET THE INITIAL RUNNING ZONING REGUL.

THE ONLY OPTION WAS FOR DOCTOR RICHARDSON TO THEN TAKE A 40 FOOT WIDE PIECE OUT OF OUR BACKYARD AND DOWN THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY AND MOVE LAND AROUND.

DAVID AND I ARE YOUNG FAMILY AND WE WOULD LIKE TO OWN THE HOME THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY RENTING SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR OUR REQUEST. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY LOTS ON SAND HILL ROAD THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT CONFORMING TO THE 3 ACRES BECAUSE THEY ARE OLDER PROPERTIES THAT WERE SMALLER THAN THIS SIZE.

WE JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE RENTING ON A LOT CAN'T REALLY BE CONFIGURED.

WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE COMMITTEE WILL CONSIDER THIS AND ALLOW US TO BUY THE HOME

THAT WE ARE LIVING IN. >> JUST ONE MORE POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE.

IF THE PURPOSE OF RURAL ZONING WITH A MINIMUM OF 3 ACRES IS TO KEEP THE DENSITY LOW.

DOCTOR RICHARDSON'S CURRENT 3 ACRES HAS THREE STRUCTURES. IT IS CONTINGENT UPON ITS

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APPROVAL. >> A SMALL PORTION THAT YOU CAN SEE OUTLINED IN BLACK IS

PART OF THE CURRENT 3.1 ANGER LOT THAT IS THERE NANA. >> THEY WOULD TAKE THE LEFT-HAND PORTION AND COMBINE IT WITH 20 ACRES THEY ALREADY HAVE.

>> WHAT IS THE STRUCTURE ON THE FAR RIGHT? THAT'S NOT ANOTHER HOME OR IS

IT? >> THERE ARE TWO HOMES ON THE ENDS OF THIS PIECE.

THE FAR RIGHT IN THE FAR LEFT OUR HOMES. THE OTHER TWO IN THE CENTER AND

THE OTHER ONE ON THE FAR LEFT IS ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. >> YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR OWN

SEPTIC BELL ASSOCIATED WITH THIS? >> YES.

>> EACH HOME HAS ITS OWN SET. >> IT'S ALREADY THERE. >> WHAT WE'VE GOT IS THIS IS NOT A SITUATION THAT EMAIL. YOU OWN THE PART THAT WAS IN YELLOW.

THE ONLY BIG PART C BASICALLY WANT TO WHETHER YOU CONSOLIDATE THE LOTS ARE NOT.

>> RIGHT. >> THERE IS CURRENTLY NONCONFORMING SITUATION THAT TAKES THE RESIDENCE FROM THE SLOT. THERE IS ALREADY TOO SEPTIC FILLS OR THREE ON THE SLOT. WHEREAS WE HAVE THAT THREE-ACRE REGULATION.

>> IT'S ALREADY NONCONFORMING. >> ARE NOT EXACERBATING THE SITUATION.

>> THE HOUSE ALREADY HAS A SEPTIC SYSTEM. >> OKAY ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

>> WE WANT TO COMBINE 25 ACRES PLUS. EMCEEING THE 25 ACRES BECAUSE THAT'S A LONG PIECE THERE. NOT THE CUT OUT. WE WANT TO COMBINE THE CUT OUT

WHAT THE PIECE LEAVING THE TWO WITH ONE LOT. >> THEY CANNOT BUY THE

PROPERTY UNLESS IT SUBDIVIDED QUICK STATUS REQUEST. >> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE.

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>> I HAVE A QUESTION. BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THIS OTHER MAN THAT HAS THE COLORING ON IT. I THESE TWO ACCESSORY BUILDINGS?

>> I BELIEVE THERE TOTAL OF THREE ACCESSORY BUILDINGS ON THE CURRENT LOT ALONG WITH THE

TWO RESIDENCES. >> I MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE JUST LISTENING AND NOT LAUNCHING.

AS PART OF THAT IN THE CITY? >> IS A SMALL PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY.

>> THAT IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. IT'S WITHIN THE CONSERVATION

OVERLAY. >> PART OF THIS PREDICAMENT THIS IS THE YELLOW PORTION WHEN THEY WANT TO FIND AND AS YOU LOOK AT IT IF I WERE TO BE IN THAT HOUSE WHICH PARENTING KNOWN ACTUALLY LIVE THERE AND I DID IN THE PAST I WOULD HAVE THE BACKYARD BEHIND ME BUT BEHIND THAT IS THIS MAN'S PROPERTY. IT MAKES IT AWKWARD.

JUST BECAUSE OF CONFIGURATION OF THE LAND IT HAD TO COME IN BEHIND THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHY I'VE HAD SUCH DIFFICULTY WITH THIS THREE-ACRE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.

THE ONE AND AND A HALF ACRES I WANT TO RETAIN MY WIFE AND I HAVE JUST A TWO BEDROOM ONE BATH WITH A SEPTIC SYSTEM THERE AND WE HAVE COMMITTED YOU STRUCTURE NEARBY.

IT MAKES FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO PURCHASE THAT EXTRA PIECE.

IT'S JUST MORE APPEALING. AT THE PROPERTY AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IT'S ONLY 150 FEET OF ROAD FRONTAGE. IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO BUY THAT IT'S ABOUT 300 FEET.

>> WE HAVE TO TAKE A CASE BY CASE AND BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO OVERUSE THAT.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE 2023 ? 007.

>> SECOND. >> WITH EMOTION AND APPROVAL. >> THIS WOULD ALLOW THE

SUBDIVISION PROPERTY AND THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE ANY OPPOSED? >> GOOD TO GO.

>> THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS OTHER BUSINESS.

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DECEMBER OR IN JANUARY? ANYBODY REMEMBER? >> WE WILL FOLLOW-UP.

>> I SAY JANUARY. >> I WAS CAN TELL YOU TO START THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO CONFIGURE YOUR BOARDS PROTECTION. MY TERM WILL END IN JULY AND I DO NOT SEEK OR ACCEPT APPOINTMENTS. WE NEED TO BE THINKING AHEAD ON THAT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.