Jan 16, 2024 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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GO TO WATSON JOINT.

OKAY, WE'LL CALL IT ORDER.

TONIGHT'S AUBURN CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR JANUARY THE 16TH, 2024.

LINDSAY WITH A ROLL CALL.

ADAMS. HERE.

HERE.

DAWSON.

HERE.

GRISWOLD HERE.

MORMON HERE.

PARSONS HERE.

TAYLOR HERE.

WHITTEN HERE.

AND HERE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PLEASE BE SEATED EARLIER DURING THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, THE CITY COUNCIL REAPPOINTED, MR. WEST WILLIAMS FOR A SECOND TERM.

AND ALSO THERE WAS A ANNOUNCEMENT MADE THAT WE STILL HAVE ONE OPENING ON THE CEMETERY ADVISORY BOARD.

AND, UH, IF THERE'S SOMEONE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE CEMETERY ADVISORY BOARD, UM, PLEASE, UH, GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND READ ABOUT WHAT THAT BOARD DOES AND, UH, FILL OUT AN APPLICATION.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, WE'LL CONSIDER THAT IN FEBRUARY.

UH, THE CITY MANAGER ALSO, UH, GAVE A SHORT REPORT ABOUT THE PREPARATIONS OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES FOR TONIGHT'S COLD WEATHER.

UM,

[4. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS]

IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL TIME TO REMEMBER AND CELEBRATE THE WORK OF A GREAT MAN AND A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THAT BREAKFAST AND I JUST APPRECIATE, UH, THE MORNING.

IT WAS WELL PLANNED AND WELL ORGANIZED AND, UH, IT WAS A GREAT TIME.

ALSO, UH, WENT OVER TO IKA AND, AND PARTICIPATED IN THEIR DREAM DAY CELEBRATION.

AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR OWN LAURA COOPER AND LEE COUNTY YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, WHO WAS RECOGNIZED WITH THE, UH, I THINK IT'S CALLED THE DREAM ACHIEVER AWARD FOR THIS YEAR.

BUT SHE'S BEEN AN OUTSTANDING CITIZEN FOR THIS COMMUNITY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, AND SHE WAS RECOGNIZED FORMALLY.

UM, CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT PREPARED THE PROGRAM, UM, FOR THE BEAKER ROAD DEDICATION LAST WEEK.

UM, A A VERY TOUCHING MOMENT, A VERY TENDER MOMENT, BUT A VERY APPROPRIATELY PLANNED MOMENT.

AND I'M THANKFUL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT WENT INTO MAKING THAT HAPPEN, FROM GETTING THE ROAD PREPARED AND, AND BUILT TO HAVING ALL THE LANDSCAPE OUT THERE LOOKING NICE JUST TO PLANNING THE PROGRAM, THE TENTS, TO ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ON TO MAKE A SPECIAL EVENT LIKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO THANK YOU.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY APPROPRIATE WAY TO DEDICATE A ROAD TO A MAN WHO GAVE EVERYTHING ON OUR BEHALF.

UM, WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY, SPEAKING OF COLD WEATHER, THAT THE POLAR PLUNGES THIS SATURDAY.

AND, UH, SINCE I'VE BEEN THE MAYOR, I'VE PARTICIPATED A FEW TIMES AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE THE COLDEST IT'S EVER BEEN.

AND, UH, BUT IT IS A GREAT FUNDRAISER FOR A GREAT ORGANIZATION, LEE COUNTY SPECIAL OLYMPICS.

AND, UH, IF YOU'RE A LITTLE CRAZY AND WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE FUN AND GET GOOD AND WOKEN UP FOR YOUR SATURDAY TO-DOS, UH, COME OUT THERE AND JOIN US, KEVIN, THAT'S AT NINE O'CLOCK, NINE O'CLOCK AT THE SANFORD AVENUE POOL.

UH, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE LOCAL ONWARD MINISTRY.

THEY INVITED ME TO SPEAK TO THE FRATERNITY PRESIDENTS LAST NIGHT, AND, UH, WHAT A GREAT TIME TO SPEAK TO THOSE YOUNG MEN WHO HAVE ALL JUST BECOME PRESIDENTS OF THEIR FRATERNITIES AND, UH, ENJOYED THEIR, THAT TIME WITH THEM.

AS WELL AS I WANNA THANK THE HARVESTER'S MINISTRY OVER AT AUBURN UNITED METHODIST CHURCH FOR HAVING ME RECENTLY TO SPEAK TO THEM.

WHAT A GREAT ORGANIZATION THEY ARE AS WELL.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TONIGHT? UM, I DO.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, I JUST WANNA WISH, UH, THE AUBURN HIGH SCHOOL, UH, BASKETBALL TEAM WHO PLAYS A BLANKET TONIGHT, UM, SUCCESS AND ALSO WISH YOU MAYOR A HAPPY 60TH BIRTHDAY TOMORROW.

THANK YOU.

YOU GAVE MY SECRET AWAY.

I PRO TIM.

I DID .

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. SONNY.

UH, YES SIR.

I NOTICE AT THE END OF COLLEGE STREET ON THE NORTH END OF COLLEGE STREET THAT THE BIG STEEL IS GOING UP AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER IS STARTING TO TAKE SHAPE AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

IT'S, IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT AND FOR THE CITIZENS OF AUBURN.

I'M, I'M THRILLED TO WATCH THE PROGRESS.

WE ALL ARE.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, MAX.

MR. MAYOR, I, UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY HOW MUCH I ENJOYED THE OPEN LINE ARTICLE ABOUT THE ANIMAL CONTROL THIS WEEK.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY, UH, VERY WELL WRITTEN AND, UH, VERY ENJOYABLE.

APPRECIATE WHAT THOSE FOLKS DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

UH, SO YOU DO A GREAT JOB.

VERY THANKFUL FOR THEM.

YEP.

AND I HOPE YOU WERE ABLE TO WATCH THE VIDEO OF THE DEER.

THAT WAS I DID.

MM-HMM.

.

OH YEAH.

VERY INTERESTING.

AND MADE ITSELF KNOWN IN SOMEBODY'S RESIDENCE, SO, ALRIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT, UH, WARD ONE COMMUNITY MEETING WOULD BE OF THE LAST MONDAY THIS MONTH.

I THINK THAT'S JANUARY 29TH AT THE KIN COMMUNITY CENTER, UH,

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OKAY.

[5. AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS]

GOOD AFTERNOON, Y'ALL.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

CLASSES BEGAN LAST WEDNESDAY AND STUDENTS ARE GETTING BACK INTO THE SWING OF THINGS AFTER A LONG BREAK.

RECRUITMENT SEASON HAS OFFICIALLY BEGUN FOR VARIOUS STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS AROUND CAMPUS TERM POSITIONS FOR STUDENT RECRUITERS, STUDENT AMBASSADORS, AS WELL AS SGA CABINET AND SENATE POSITIONS ARE NEARING THEIR CONCLUSION IN THE COMING MONTHS.

ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEGUN TO TABLE ON THE CONCOURSE AS THEY PREPARE TO FILL THESE POSITIONS FOR THE COMING SEMESTER AND YEAR FOR OTHER EVENTS.

THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY IS HOSTING PLANT AHEAD, WHICH IS A TREE PLANTING EVENT THAT IS BEING HOSTED AT THE KREER PRESERVE AND NATURE CENTER NEXT THURSDAY.

THE UPC IS ALSO HOSTING A SUSHI MAKING WORKSHOP NEXT MONDAY, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD TIME.

AND FINALLY, SGA ELECTIONS WILL BEGIN ON JANUARY 30TH.

I'LL HAVE SOME UPDATES ON THAT FOR Y'ALL AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

WE'RE EAGLE.

YEAH, WE'RE EAGLE.

GOOD, THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE AHEAD TO CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS ON ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

THIS IS ONLY ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

I WILL APPOINT YOU TO OUR TWO RESOLUTIONS TONIGHT, WHICH DO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT EITHER ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. UH, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THEN.

UH, BUT IF YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

[7. CITY MANAGER’S COMMUNICATIONS]

SEEING OH ONE, WE'LL MOVE AHEAD.

CITY MANAGERS COMMUNICATIONS UNDER CITY MANAGERS COMMUNICATIONS, WE HAVE THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF ONE VACANCY ON THE CEMETERY ADVISORY BOARD THAT WILL FOR A TERM THAT WILL BEGIN IMMEDIATELY UPON APPOINTMENT AND IN FEBRUARY 4TH, 2028.

UH, THE APPOINTMENT WILL BE MADE AT THE FEBRUARY 20TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PORTAL WILL OPEN BACK TOMORROW MORNING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, LET'S CONTINUE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DEAL WITH THAT ITEM INDIVIDUALLY?

[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA]

SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AND THE CONSENT AGENDA

[9.a. Annexation. Chewacla Ridge. Approximately 142.57 acres. Property located South of Lee Road 010 (Sandhill Road) and west of Lee Road 023. Unanimous consent necessary. Planning Commission recommendation]

ORDINANCES.

ITEM NINE A IS A REQUEST TO ANNEX APPROXIMATELY 142.57 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH OF LEE ROAD 10, ALSO KNOWN AS SANDHILL ROAD AND WEST OF LEE ROAD 23.

PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT ITS JANUARY 11TH MEETING.

UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY.

I'LL INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE AND ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

SECOND OF MOTION.

SECONDS IN ONE THE COUNCIL HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH THE VOTE ON THIS THIS EVENING.

SEEING A HEARING? NONE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF OR ANY THOUGHTS? OKAY.

LINDSEY, ROLL CALL.

DAWSON? YES MA'AM.

GRISWOLD? YES MA'AM.

MORMON? YES MA'AM.

ARSONS? YES.

TAYLOR? YES.

WHITTEN? YES.

ADAMS? YES.

OB YES.

YES.

[10.a. Conditional use approvals. Planning Commission recommendations. Public hearings required. ]

THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT ITS JANUARY 11TH MEETING.

A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND.

THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

SEEING NO ONE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 10 A TWO IS REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL FOR A ROAD SERVICE.

USE A BANQUET DRIVE THROUGH FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 9 0 1 EAST GLEN AVENUE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING DISTRICT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT ITS JANUARY 11TH MEETING A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

OKAY.

FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.

C.

NO ONE.

WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION CARRIES.

[10.b. Tax abatement. CNJ, Inc. 265 Teague Court. Auburn Industrial Park.]

OR THE FOR THE PURCHASE OF NEW MANUFACTURING MACHINERY TO BE LOCATED AT 2 6 5 T COURT IN THE AUBURN INDUSTRIAL PARK.

THE COMPANY ANTICIPATES HIRING SEVERAL NEW EMPLOYEES OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS

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MAYOR FAIR APPROVAL? SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

I CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK OUR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TEAM FOR ANOTHER GREAT JOB.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE DIOCESE? ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION CARRIES.

MAYOR, THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS OF BUSINESS WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

SURE.

BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I THINK I DID SEE A YOUNG MAN COME IN WITH A SCOUT UNIFORM ON.

DID I, WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAND UP AND TELL US YOUR NAME AND WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON? UH, MY NAME IS BRETT BOWMAN AND I'M DOING CITIZENSHIP AND SOCIETY AND CITIZENSHIP AND COMMUNITY.

WELL, WELCOME.

WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN HELP YOU WITH, DON'T HESITATE TO LET US KNOW.

SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE SOME GOOD ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS, I PROMISE.

[12. CITIZENS’ OPEN FORUM]

AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE CITIZENS' OPEN FORM.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL ABOUT ANYTHING ON YOUR MIND, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL AND WE ASK THAT YOUR COMMENTS BE DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL FOR A START.

YOUNG MAN, I, I HATE THAT YOU GOT HERE WITH SUCH A SHORT, UH, PLEASE COME BACK AGAIN.

SO, UM, MY NAME IS ROBERT WILKINS, 2 61, UH, DENSON DRIVE, AUBURN, ALABAMA.

GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UM, HONESTY.

UH, WE WANT A MAYOR AND A CITY COUNCIL THAT IS HONEST.

THE DEFINITION OF HONESTY IS THE QUALITY OF BEING TRUTHFUL.

UN RIGHTNESS, A RIGHT, A RIGHTNESS, EXCUSE ME, OF CHARACTER AND OF ACTION THAT IMPLIES A REFUSAL TO LIE, STEAL, OR DECEIVE IN ANY WAY.

BILLY JOEL WROTE A SONG THAT TITLED HONESTY.

IF YOU LOOK FOR TRUTHFULNESS, YOU MIGHT JUST AS WELL BE BLIND.

IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE SO HARD TO GIVE.

HONESTY IS SUCH A LONELY WORD.

EVERYONE IS SO UNTRUE.

HONESTY IS HARDLY EVER HEARD.

AND MOSTLY WHAT I NEED FROM YOU.

THERE'S A HEAVY BURDEN ON THIS COUNCIL ON REACHING, UH, REACTING TO THE NEEDS OF THE AUBURN CITIZEN.

YOU CANNOT LET US DOWN.

OUR CITY MANAGER CONTIN CONSISTENTLY TELLS US THAT, UH, SHE CANNOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT Y'ALL'S APPROVAL.

SO STOP RELINQUISHING YOUR POWERS TO THE CITY.

BUREAUCRATS.

YOU MUST STAND UP AND QUESTION AND DELAYED DECISIONS BEFORE YOUR VOTE.

I ALSO QUESTIONED SOME OF THE ORIGINS OF THESE RIDICULOUS PROCEDURES THAT YOU AND WE THE CITIZENS ARE TO FOLLOW.

YOU'RE THE BOSS, NOT THEM.

THERE ARE LOTS OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON IN, IN THE CITY OF AUBURN.

FROM EDUCATION SYSTEM TO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION, TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, TO OUR WASTE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

IT'S SO MUCH MORE, BUT WE HAVE TO STOP DESTROYING THE OVERBUILDING OF DOWNTOWN.

STOP TAKING AWAY AUBURN CITIZENS' PROPERTY RIGHTS AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

STOP OVERPAYING.

UH, OUR UPPER BUREAUCRATIC MANAGEMENT.

STOP HIRING CONSULTANTS WHO ARE TELLING CITIZENS THEIR NEEDS WHILE THEY ONLY PROVIDE COOKIE CUTTER SOLUTIONS.

HOW MANY OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL HAVE READ THE COMP PLAN 20, 30 MANY TIMES OVER? I HOPE.

IF NOT, YOU NEED TO.

UH, PLEASE, PLEASE STOP MAKING UNINFORMED DECISIONS BY NOT DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.

JUST LET YOU DO LIST JUST LIKE YOU DID WITH SHORT TERM RENTAL, PRETENDING TO CARE, BUT NOT GOING DIRECTLY OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY WHILE MASKING OUR INEFFICIENT TASK FORCE.

I'VE JUST FINISHED MY SIX.

I'M JUST FINISHING MY 60TH COUNCIL MEETING OUTTA 64.

THIS IS A NEW YEAR.

WE CITIZENS WANT THIS COUNCIL TO STOP SITTING ON YOUR THUMBS.

STOP LETTING THE BUREAUCRATS, THE ELITE AND OUR MAYOR'S ASSOCIATE CONTROL THE DIRECTION OF AUBURN.

LET THE CITIZENS OF AUBURN BE INVOLVED.

AND LET ME GET BACK TO THE, UH, COMP, ANYBODY THAT'S LISTENING ON THE RADIO OR WHATEVER, UH, GO TO COMP PLAN 2030 AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR CITY BECAUSE, UH, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO FALL PRETTY MUCH IN LINE, UH, WITH THAT, UH, DECISIONS WITH THOSE DECISIONS.

SO, UH, THANK YOU.

AND, UH, I WISH MINE, I WAS IN THE ISLANDS LIKE I USED TO BE.

, IT'S COLD.

ANYONE ELSE? WE'LL CLOSE THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS.

ANYTHING FROM THE COUNCIL? I AM VERY PROUD OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK HERE.

I DON'T SLANDER THE NAME OF OUR EMPLOYEES BY CALLING 'EM BUREAUCRATS.

THEY PROVIDE ADVICE TO THE COUNCIL.

EVERY ONE OF US CAN ACCEPT THAT ADVICE.

WE CAN CHALLENGE THAT ADVICE.

WE CAN DEBATE THAT ADVICE.

WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ADVICE.

NONE OF THIS IS FORCED DOWN OUR THROATS TO BE SO CONDESCENDING.

IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE.

WHO ARE MY FRIENDS THAT ARE ELITES THAT GOVERN THIS TOWN? CAN YOU NAME ONE OF THEM?

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CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? THE CAMP, THE BUREAUCRATS DO NOT TELL YOU THE WHOLE STORY WHEN THEY SOMETHING PASSED, THEY DO NOT TELL YOU EVERYTHING.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE ACCUSING THEM OF IS DECEIVING US.

I'M JUST NOT NO, NO.

YOU'RE ACCUSING THEM OF DECEIVING US ALL THAT.

IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS YOU COME HERE TIME AFTER TIME.

BUT RATE EVERYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL AND WE, I FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL DOES THE BEST THEY CAN DO WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.

BUT WHEN YOU, AND I DON'T USUALLY GET UPTIGHT ABOUT IT, BUT YOU KIND OF TICK ME OFF TONIGHT WHEN YOU WANT TO QUESTION MY HONESTY.

I I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT, BUT I DO HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION.

I'M, I'M HONEST TO A FAULT AND I DON'T THINK, WHO ARE YOU TO COME HERE AND QUESTION ME ABOUT MY HONESTY? I DIDN'T QUESTION YOUR HONESTY.

YES YOU DID.

I TALKED QUESTION.

EVERYBODY'S UP HERE.

HONESTY SAID I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT IT.

YOU DID.

I'D APPRECIATE IF YOU, IF YOU'RE GONNA MENTION MY NAME AGAIN OR MENTION TO TALK ABOUT ME, AT LEAST SAY I'M HONEST.

I'M A LOT, MAYBE A LOT OF THINGS BUT NOT BEING DISHONEST.

IT'S NOT ONE OF'EM.

I NEVER SAID I PUT PUT YOU TIME AFTER TIME SHOWING UP HERE AND, AND SAYING SOME OF THE STUFF YOU SAY, IT'S JUST WAY OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GETTING IT AT, BUT WHEN YOU QUESTION MY HONESTY, UH, THAT'S GOES TOO FAR.

QUESTION.

TOOK IT WRONG.

WHAT I THERE MOVE TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVED.

WE'RE ADJOURN.