[ROLL CALL] [00:00:12] >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. WE'RE GOING TO CALL OUR BOARD OF THE ZONE OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING OPEN FOR WEDNESDAY, MAY 1ST, 2024. >> WILL FAULKNER >> HERE >> FROST ROLLINS >> LATICIA SMITH >> HERE >> MARY BOYD , CHARLES DAN BERRY JR >> OKAY, I'M GOING TO TURN THE [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] MEETING OVER SO THAT WE CAN GET THE MEETINGS MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. >> THANKS. JUST SOME THINGS. SINCE WE HAVE TWO ABSENCES TONIGHT, WE WILL NEED TO FORMALLY CALL UP CHARLES DAN BERRY JR TO SERVE ON THE BOARD TODAY AND THEN ALSO SEVERAL ADVISEMENTS THIS MORNING . THE MINUTES YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE MINUTES I SENT OUT BUT THOROUGHLY REVIEWED AND REVISED, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT . THE LAST MEETING WE WENT THROUGH , THINGS LIKE THAT WERE STRUCK . IT WAS VERY VERBOSE AND SO THE MINUTES THAT WE HAVE NOW ARE MORE CONCISE AND GET TO THE POINT OF A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND FRAME A LOT. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO FOLLOW. SO I THINK THAT IS REALLY JUST THE ONLY FORMALITY YOU NEED TO FORMALLY BRING UP CHARLES DAN BERRY JR AND THEN YOU CAN READ THE CHAIRMAN'S COMMUNICATION. >> I HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME FROM THE LAST MEETING MINUTES. >> THAT WILL WORK. WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU. >> THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS REVISED? >> MOTION. >> SECOND. >> OKAY. >> WILL FAULKNER >> YES >> EMMY SORRELLS >> YES >> LATICIA SMITH >> YES >> MARTY HEFFREN >> YES >> DAN BERRY JR >> YES. >> AT THIS TIME, WE WANT TO APPROVE THAT DAN BERRY JR. COME TO SERVE IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY IN THE ABSENCE OF REGULAR MEMBERS. >> SECOND. >> OKAY, MOTIONED AND SECONDED. >> YES, DON'T NEED TO TAKE A VOTE. WE'RE GOOD. >> LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT THIS IS MY FIRST -- I WAS GOING TO BE DOING THIS UNTIL ABOUT 30 SECONDS AGO SO PLEASE BEAR WITH [CHAIRMAN’S OPENING REMARKS] ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAN I NOW MOVED TO MY CHAIRMAN'S OPENING REMARKS? I CAN READ THAT? VERY WELL. THESE ARE THE OPENING REMARKS , SO ANY PERSONS AGREED BY ANY DECISION OF THE BOARD MADE WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER SUCH DECISION APPEAL TO THE CIRCUIT COURT HAVING JURISDICTION ACCORDING TO SECTION 90802 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF AUBURN, ALABAMA. THE BOARD CONSISTS OF FIVE REGULAR MEMBERS AND TWO SUPERNUMERARY'S WHO PARTICIPATE IN OUR DISCUSSIONS BUT ONLY FELT WERE NECESSARY TO ASSURE FOUR VOTING MEMBERS AND HAVE A BOARD WITH FIVE MEMBERS WHEN POSSIBLE. ALL DECISIONS ARE MADE WITH A ROLL CALL VOTE . ALL REGULAR MEMBERS AND ONE THE SUPERNUMERARY IN ATTENDANCE WILL VOTE NOT OKAY. NEW [1. Variance to Section 502.01, Table 5-2: Lot Area, Setback, Bulk Regulations and Parking Requirements: Neighborhood Conservation District of the City of Auburn Zoning Ordinance ] BUSINESS FOR TODAY? >> GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. FOR OUR NEW BUSINESS ITEM, WE HAVE A VARIANCE REQUEST OF 12 FEET TO THE REQUIRED 35 FOOT MINIMUM SETBACK FOR A REAR YARD TO ALLOW A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 23 FEET. THIS IS A VARIANCE TO SECTION 502.01, TABLE 5-2, LOT AREA SETBACK AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS . THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE NC 12 DISTRICT AND FOR THOSE PROPERTIES , THE REQUIRED SETBACK TO THE REAR [00:05:04] YARD IS NO LESS THAN 35 FEET FROM THE STRUCTURE. IT IS WEST OF DEAN ROAD , SOUTH OF THATCH AVENUE, NC 12 DISTRICT AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. STREAMBED GOES THROUGH THE PROPERTY FROM EAST TO WEST. THIS IS THE REASONING BEHIND THE APPLICANTS VARIANCE REQUEST. THIS IS A SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE PROPOSED ADDITION TO THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE . IT'S GOING TO BE ATTACHED TO AN AREA OF THE HOUSE AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. IT IS INTENDED TO BE RESIDENTIAL , AND ADDITION TO THE HOUSE, AND THERE CITING THAT THEY WILL NEED THE 12 FOOT VARIANCE TO ACHIEVE THIS. WE TOOK PHOTOS ON SITE THAT SHOW THE PROPERTY STREAMBED RUNNING THROUGH. IT IS REFLECTED IN THE OFFICIAL WATERSHED MAP FOR THE CITY OF AUBURN. RIGHT NOW IT IS A DRY BED. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> WHAT ARE THE STRUCTURES BACK THERE NOW? LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE BACK LEFT AND BLACK -- BACK RIGHT? >> I BELIEVE THERE ARE A FEW ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY WHICH IS PERMITTED . ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ONLY NEED TO BE FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. THEY ARE ANCILLARY USE. >> IS THE HEIGHT OF THE NEW STRUCTURE PROPOSED THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE HOUSE? >> I AM UNSURE OF THE HEIGHT. I BELIEVE THE HOUSE IS ONE STORY. THE APPLICANT WAS HERE HE COULD GIVE YOU AN ANSWER TO THAT. THAT WILL BE ATTACHED. >> HOW IS IT ATTACHED? THE SURVEY SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT IT IS NOT. >> AS OF THE PATIO? >> THIS LITTLE SQUARE SECTION RIGHT HERE? >> NO, BEHIND WITH THE DIAGONAL SHAPE. >> I BELIEVE THIS IS THE ADDITION BEING CONNECTED TO A PREVIOUS EDITION WHICH IS THE SQUARE AREA RIGHT HERE. >> OKAY, BECAUSE IT SAYS PATIO. LIKE PATIO STEPS OR MAYBE LIKE OKAY, SO I DIDN'T KNOW. THIS IS NOT A GARAGE OR PARKING STRUCTURE. THIS IS LIVING SPACE? >> I BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO BE. >> THERE IS ALREADY FROM THIS THERE IS A STRUCTURE . SO, HOW IS IT ATTACHED TO THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE? >> THERE SAYING THERE IS A STRUCTURE WHERE THAT PATIO IS. >> IT'S JUST NOT SHOWN RIGHT NOW? >> RIGHT. THE SURVEY ITSELF IS OLD. >> IT IS YES, A HISTORICAL SURVEY. >> AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE? DID WE HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION ABOUT THIS? >> JUST A NEIGHBOR ASKED ABOUT IT AND THEIR ONLY QUESTION WAS IF THIS WAS A RENTAL PROPERTY OR OWNER OCCUPIED. >> OKAY, AND NO OTHER ISSUES OR CONCERNS FROM ANYONE ELSE? >> NO. >> THE LOT BEHIND IT ADDS TO THE HOUSE? >> THE REAR -- I'M SORRY, THE PROPERTIES TO THE REAR ARE NORTH ARE . THE PROPERTY IS ZONED D DH AND I BELIEVE THERE IS BUFFERING BECAUSE IT IS A PERFORMANCE USE AND D DH ARE DUPLEXES AND WHEN PERFORMANCE USES A BUT DIMENSIONAL SUBDIVISIONS, THERE ARE GUIDELINES FOR BUFFERING. >> I THINK THAT'S A REAR ALLEYWAY TO THE GARAGE. >> I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS SO -- >> THEY ARE. >> THIS PLOT DOES NOT APPEAR TO SHOW -- >> NO, IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT BUT -- >> ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT SIDE OF THE LOT HAVE BEEN MET? >> YES. THIS IS ONLY TO THE REAR. >> I NOTICED STAFF DOESN'T MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS BUT THE APPLICANT REFERRED TO THE [00:10:10] STREAM CREATING A HARDSHIP SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ASK ANY PERSONAL OPINIONS THEN, SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THEY COULD DO GIVEN THAT THE STREAM IS RUNNING ALONG THAT PROPERTY? >> I BELIEVE IN TERMS OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THE STRUCTURE AS IT STANDS , PROBABLY FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT OR HOW YOU MOVE AROUND IN THE HOUSE , IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND YOU COULD PROBABLY ONLY EXPAND TO THE REAR OR THE SIDES. >> YOU COULD LOOK AT THE STREETSCAPE. RIGHT HERE YOU CAN TELL THAT HOUSE IS ALREADY SET BACK FURTHER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE STREAM AND HAVING TO GET OVER THAT. >> THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIT THE HOUSE BETWEEN THE STREAM. >> YOU, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS HOUSES WAY FORWARD. >> I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME PLANS OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT HERE. I WISH WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT IS BEING BUILT HERE. >> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS ADDITIONAL LIVING SPACE. TWO BEDS, TWO BATHS, BUT I WILL ASK THAT. >> APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? THANK YOU. >> I WASN'T PREPARED. >> NEITHER WAS I, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. >> I THINK THE LAST QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH USAGE. >> IT'S GOING TO BE A GARAGE AND STORAGE. >> BUT IT IS ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE? >> WELL, I HAVE NOT DECIDED THAT FOR SURE YET. >> AS THAT STRUCTURE BACK THERE A PATIO OR DECK? >> DIRECTLY BEHIND THE HOUSE IS A WOODEN DECK, AND THIS WILL BE KIND OF BEHIND THAT. I HAVE KIND OF -- I DON'T HAVE PLANS WORKED OUT 100% YET OTHER THAN DOUBLE GARAGE AND SOME STORAGE. I HAVE KICKED AROUND THE IDEA OF ATTACHING IT TO EXTEND THE HOUSE SO IT IS ATTACHED BUT I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT FAR YET. >> WOULD YOU SAY IT'S A DRIVEWAY I MIX IT -- ASSUMING THEN? >> I WOULD EXTEND THE DRIVEWAY, THAT IS CORRECT. >> THEN I'M JUST SPECULATING BUT THAT PROBABLY MAYBE WHERE THE COMMUNICATION WAS, TOO. MAKING SURE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE A RENTAL HOUSE. >> IT'S JUST FOR MY USE. >> ISN'T IT TRUE THAT THE SETBACKS IN THE BACK FOR A CONNECTED STRUCTURE ARE A LOT LESS THAN THEY ARE FOR THE HOUSE ITSELF? MY AND SEE THAT IS 35 FOR THE HOUSE, IT'S 10 FOR EXTRA -- >> THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WOULD THINK IF THIS IS A GARAGE OR CARPORT IT WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE BUT CONNECTING IT TO THE HOUSE IS PROBABLY WHERE WE ARE GETTING A HICCUP. >> IF IT'S LIVING SPACE I FEEL IN MY OPINION IT CHANGES A LITTLE BIT. >> I LIKE TO KEEP THE OPTIONS OPEN. >> OKAY. >> THINK YOU WILL. >> THANK YOU. >> ENCLOSING PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL MOVE INTO BOARD DISCUSSION. >> BASED ON THE CLARITY AND A HARDSHIP WITH THE DRY BED , I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY BEST USE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF A GLORIFIED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GO AHEAD AND MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. >> SECOND. >> WILL FAULKNER [OTHER BUSINESS] >> YES >> EMMY SORRELLS >> YES >> LATICIA SMITH >> YES >> MARTY HEFFREN >> YES >> DAN BERRY JR. >> YES. >> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? >> NO. WE JUST HAVE SOME TRAINING IN THE FUTURE BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN STOP HAVING ALL THESE VARIANCE MEETINGS. >> YOU DON'T LIKE SEEING MY [STAFF COMMUNICATION] FACE EVERY MONTH? >> I LOVE SEEING YOU ALL. >> ANY OTHER STAFF BUSINESS? I KNOW THERE IS A TRAINING COMING [00:15:01] UP. >> YES, THERE WILL BE A TRAINING FOR THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR NEXT WEEK AND I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY THINK ABOUT HAVING TRAINING FOR THE COUNCIL LATER IN THE YEAR AS WE KEEP GOING. >> THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. >> I MOVED TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.