[1. CALL TO ORDER.] [00:00:04] >> WE WILL CALL AND ORDER FOR TONIGHT'S COMMITTEE OF THE [2. MINUTES. ] WHOLE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF OCTOBER 15TH, 2024. CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 1ST. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IF THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? [3. TREE COMMISSION. ] >> MOTION. >> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ESSAY AYE. >> AYE. >> WE HAVE THREE VACANCIES NEVER 20TH, 2023 AND WE HAVE THREE INCUMBENTS. THE FIRST OPENING IS SHELLEY AISTRUP. SHE SERVED ONE FULL TERM. SHE HAS APPLIED FOR A SECOND TERM. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE SHELLEY AISTRUP FOR A SECOND TERM. >> DO HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND FOR SHELLEY AISTRUP. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. >> AYE. AND WE WILL COME FROM THAT ON THE AGENDA. >> THE SECOND VACANCY IS ORIGINALLY HELD BY MICHELLE BETHUNE. THEY DO NOT RECOMMEND A SECOND TERM. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND MICHAEL FOR THAT POSITION. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR MICHAEL BRUNSON. ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> UNOPPOSED IN THE MOTION CARRIES AND WE WILL CARRY THAT ON LATER ON IN THE AGENDA. >> THE THIRD VACANCY IS HELD BY ALGERNON COLEMAN. THEY ALSO DID NOT APPLY FOR A THIRD TIME SO I WOULD LIKE TO NAME HELENA FOR THAT VACANCY. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR HELENA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? >> I JUST HAVE ONE AND IT IS A GENERAL COMMENT. WE HAVE RUN THROUGH THESE AWFUL QUICKLY AND I JUST WANT FOLKS AT HOME AND HERE TO KNOW THAT THEIR APPLICATIONS WERE IN FRONT OF US. READ THEM. THEY WERE ALL EXCELLENT. WE ARE BLESSED IN THIS COMMUNITY TO HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR THESE POSITIONS AT SUCH A HIGH LEVEL AND I HARDLY CAN ENDORSE ALL THREE OF THESE CANDIDATES. >> WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE CITIZENS THAT WANT TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? AND WE WILL CONFIRM THAT LATER ON IN THE AGENDA. MR. GRISWOLD? >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A STATEMENT I BULLET TO READ FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. I GIVE A COPY TO ALLISON FOR ATTACHMENT. OVER THE PAST MONTHS, NORTHSTAR PLACE BRANDING AND MARKETING DEVELOP A REBRANDING CONCEPT FOR THE CITY. THE CONTRACT THAT WORKED ON THE CONCEPT WITH INPUT FROM CITIZENS. THE MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, LEADERS OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE . THE REASONS I WILL EXPLAIN, I'M ASKING THIS THE COUNCIL TO DIRECT CITY STAFF TO WITHHOLD IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY ASPECT OF THE CONCEPT UNTIL IT IS APPROVED BY MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL DID APPROVE A CONTRACT FOR AN AGE STUDY AND OF ELEMENTAL CONTRACT. I EVIDENTLY MISUNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS. I EXPECTED THE FINAL CONCEPT WE PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL AND WE WOULD APPROVE POSSIBLY WITH CHANGES OR DISAPPROVE ITS IMPLEMENTATION. I WAS WRONG. BY APPROVING THE CONTRACT, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY STAFF. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE PARTICIPATED AND TWO OF THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL ZOOM MEETINGS ABOUT THE PLAN. IN THE FIRST MEETING, WE WERE GIVEN THE SURVEY RESULTS. TOLD THAT THE CURRENT LANDING IS EFFECTIVE SO THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A PERCEPTION BRANDING PROBLEM. BECAUSE OF THIS, I ASK THAT THE CONTRACT BE COMPLETED WITH NO FURTHER WORK. I WAS TOLD WE CAN STOP AND APPROVE AWARDED AN IN PROCESS CONTRACT. THE SECOND REASON MEETING WAS A PRESENTATION OF THE FINAL CONCEPT AND INCLUDED A NEW TAGLINE AND LOGO. ANOTHER COUNCILPERSON SAID AFTER HIS PRESENTATION, THE SIMPLE PUNCTUATION CHANGE COULD EASILY TWIST PROPOSED TAGLINE INTO AN UNFLATTERING, RISQUÉ DESCRIPTION OF THE CITY. ANOTHER COUNCILPERSON AND I NOTICED THAT THE FOCAL POINT OF THE PROPOSED LOGO CAN BE CONFUSED WITH A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. FOR EXAMPLE, WE OBSERVED A LOCAL LANDSCAPING COMPANY LOGO THAT IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE ONE BEING PROPOSED FOR AUBURN. THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE STUDY AND THE CREATION OF THE BRANDING CONCEPT BUT HAS NOT APPROVED THE FINAL RECOMMENDED DESIGN. WE DON'T REQUIRE STAFF TO SECRET APPROVAL OF IMPLEMENTATION IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AS IS AT THE DISCRETION OF STAFF. FOR ME THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. CITIZENS, THROUGH THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE NEED FINAL APPROVAL OF SUCH A LONG-LASTING IMPACTFUL AND LAST NOT LEAST, EXPENSIVE CHANGE. THE COST OF DEVELOPING AND CREATING A NEW BRAND ONLY BEGINS WITH A PLAN. IMPLEMENTATION IS THE TRUE COST. TONIGHT I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL FOR A CONSENSUS [00:05:01] DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO OUTLINE THE PLAN FOR COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT AND WITHHOLD IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY ASPECT OF THE VINYL PLAN UNTIL IT IS REVIEWED IN ITS ENTIRETY AND PUBLIC APPROVED OR DISAPPROVED BY A COUNCIL. THANK YOU. >> THE COUNCIL'S PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES NORMALLY DURING THE MANY OF THE COUNCILMEMBER WOULD ASK FOR TIME AT THE FOLLOWING COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION ON AN ITEM. MR. GRISWOLD, YOU HAVE MADE THE STATEMENT AT THE END YOU WERE ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL TO DIRECTIVE THE CITY MANAGER . THAT CERTAINLY IS NORMALLY NOT WHAT OUR NORMAL PROCESSES ARE SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE THIS TOPIC ON OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING? THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WHICH IS OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHICH IS NOVEMBER THE FIFTH, IF I'M CORRECT? SEEING IT IS THREE WEEKS FROM NOW. IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE, MR. GRISWOLD? >> I LIKE US TO HAVE THE PLAN OUTLINE FOR COUNCIL PARTICIPATION. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, THAT IS FINE. I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER ON HOW TO PROCEED. >> ALL RIGHT. SO, MR. GRISWOLD IS ASKING WE FOLLOW OUR PROCEDURES HERE DURING THE NEXT COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING ON THE FIFTH OF THE COUNCIL HAVE A FULLER DISCUSSION OF THIS AND, ULTIMATELY, POTENTIALLY ASKED THE CITY MANAGER THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION TO OUTLINE A PLAN FOR COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT AND WITHHOLD ANY IMPLEMENTATION. SO THIS IS NOT A TIME FOR DELIBERATION FROM THE COUNCIL. BUT THIS IS A TIME FOR THE COUNCIL TO SET ASIDE TIME DURING THREE WEEKS FOR THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION OF THIS. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BE DECIDING RIGHT NOW. ALL IN FAVOR OF SETTING ASIDE TIME AT THE NOVEMBER 5TH MEETING DURING THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO DISCUSS THIS BRANDING QUESTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. THAT IS THREE. ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. >> I AM NOT OPPOSED OR UNOPPOSED. HONESTLY, I UNDERSTAND WHERE MR. GRISWOLD IS COMING FROM . NOT AGAINST YOU , SO WE CAN HAVE MEETINGS IF YOU WANT TO. >> THANK YOU, CHIEF. OKAY. QUESTIONS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? >> WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME? >> IT WAS THREE IN FAVOR AND IN THAT FOUR, ONE OPPOSED TO THAT. AND ONE ABSTAIN TAKEN. >> I'M SORRY. I DO NOT CLARIFY [4. QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA.] THAT. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? >> MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, SOME FOLKS MAY BE HERE TONIGHT WITH SOME CONCERNS ABOUT A PROJECT THAT THEY THOUGHT AND WAS LEGALLY ADVERTISED TO BE ON THIS AGENDA ABOUT 606 PITTS AVENUE. APPLICANT CALLED LAST WEEK AND WITHDREW THEIR APPLICATION SO IT NEVER MADE THE AGENDA SO IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDAS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR ANY REASON FOR THAT ITEM, IT WILL NOT BE HEARD TONIGHT BECAUSE IT IS NO LONGER BEFORE ANYONE AND IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO BRING IT BACK, IT HAS TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND START AGAIN. >> ALL RIGHT. SO, IF YOU'RE HERE WITH AN ITEM THAT YOU MIGHT BELIEVE THAT MAY BE ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA TONIGHT DEVELOPED TO DEVELOPMENT OF PITTS AVENUE, WE WILL NOT BE HERE TONIGHT. >> >> FOR THE FOLKS ARE HERE FOR THAT, WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT UNLESS YOU GET NOTIFIED AGAIN THAT IT COMES UP AGAIN. IT IS OVER WITH FOR NOW. >> AND YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO STAY AND ENJOY OUR MEETING. >> CLARIFICATION. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE CITY MANAGER RELATED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? OKAY. IS THERE A MOVE TO ADJOURN TONIGHT'S COMMITTEE OF THE * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.