[1. CALL TO ORDER.]
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MANAGER? OKAY. WE WILL MOVE TO ADJOURN.
>> SO MOVED? >> WE ARE AJOURNED AS COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AND I WILL OPEN THE AUBURN CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR APRIL 15, 2025. WE WELCOME ALL OF THOSE WHO JOINED US LIVE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND THOSE LISTENING OR WATCHING THROUGH OUR STREAMING SERVICES. ROLL CALL?
>> WOULD YOU RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO HAD REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> THANK YOU, PLEASE BE SEATED. EARLIER TONIGHT, DURING THE
[4. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS.]
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED BRAD CHINWIT TO THE BOARD OF EMGICATION, AND REAPPOINTED GORMAN BIRD AND NAVEN BEARD TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION. ITEM 8B4 HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM TONIGHT'S AGENDA. AS FAR AS MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS, I HAVE A NUMBER OF ANOUSMENTS. IT IS A BUSY TIME OF YEAR FOR THE COMMUNITY. TOMORROW YOUTH COUNTY DEVELOPMENT WILL BE HAVING A CEREMONY TO RECOGNIZE CHILD ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH. I FOLLOW THE WORK OF THE GREAT DEVELOPMENT AND THEIR OUTSTANDING STAFF. THIS IS A TIME WHEN THEY TAKE THE TIME TO FULLY RECOGNIZE THE TRIALS AND TIBULATIONS OF SOME OF OUR CHILDREN AND THOSE THAT THEY ARE SERVING OUT THERE WHO END UP IN YOUTH COUNTY DEVELOPMENT AS A PLACE OF LAST RESORT. THEY HAVE A GREAT STAFF THAT GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO HAVE HOPE AGAIN FOR THEIR LIVES. THIS FRIDAY IS COPS ON TOP. IF YOU NEED GROCERIES, STOP BY KROEGER AND CONTRIBUTE TO SPECIAL OLYMPICS. OUR POLICE OFFICERS WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT. GREAT WAY TO GET A CHEAP LUNCH, HOT DOG AND CHIPS AND DRINK FOR $5. THIS IS A TIME TO RECOGNIZE THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS. NEXT WEEK WE WILL BE FILMING A SEGMENT FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE TEACHERS OF THE YEAR. WE WILL RECOGNIZE OUR OUTSTANDING TEACHERS IN AUBURN CITY SCHOOLS AND ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS. THIS IS JUST TIME TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING EFFORTS AS THEY INVEST IN OUR CHILDREN. THE AUBURN BEAUTIFICATION COUNCIL WILL BE REPLANNING THE HANGING BASKETS DOWNTOWN. IF YOU SOME WORKERS ON LADDERS AND PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO BE, I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE TIME TO SAY THANK YOU. THEY POUR THEIR HEART AND SOUL AND I BELIEVE THE BASKETS MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN DOWNTOWN. THEY WILL BE CHANGING THOSE TO SPRIPG FLOWERS. CITY FEST IS A WEEK FROM SATURDAY. THAT IS A HUGE EFFORT WITH THE STAFF AND SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND VOLUNTEERS OUT AT THE PARK. WE PRAY FOR GREAT WEATHER AND A GREAT DAY AND WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE YOUR FAMILY OUT THERE. I WANT TO THANK THE CHAMBER OF COMERSE WHO WILL BE HOSTING A RECEPTION FOR INDUSTRIES AS WE SAY THANK YOU FOR THE JOBS THEY CREATE IN THE COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE ANNE AND HER STAFF TAKING THE TIME TO INVEST IN THE INDUSTRIES AS WE SHOULD SAY THANK YOU TO THE JOBS THEY CREATE FOR AUBURN. I WANT TO REMIND THE COMMUNITY THAT NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER IS MAY 1.THERE IS A CEREMONY THAT ALL OF US CAN PARTICIPATE IN AT COURTHOUSE SQUARE ATOPE LIKEA. PLEASE JOIN A MULTITUDE OF PASTORS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AS WE PRAY TO GOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I WANT TO SAY THAT STORY BOOK FARMS DERBY DAY IS COMING UP SOON BEFORE WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING. WHAT A GREAT ORGANIZATION. THEY ALSO SERVE FAMILIES WITH SPECIAL NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY. THE DERBY PARTY IS REALLY FUN AS WELL. THAT'S THE FIRST SATURDAY IN MAY. THEN TOMORROW NIGHT, MYSELF AND PRESIDENT CHRIS ROBERTS WILL BE TRAVELLING TO MONTGOMERY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMITTEE OF 100 WHERE HE AND I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE GREAT THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW OUR TOWN AND GOWN WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE AUBURN A SPECIAL PLACE.
FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY HAPPY EASTER TO ALL OF YOU IN THE COMMUNITY. FROM ME, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT DAY OF THE YEAR. HOPE ALL OF YOU HAVE A GREAT EASTER AND SAFE TRAVELS.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? I KNOW
THAT WAS A MOUTHFUL. YES, SIR? >> JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF AND THE CITIZENS WHO TOOK PART IN THE LOVE MY BLOCK EFFORT TO BEAUTIFY WARD 5. A LOT OF PEOPLE
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I SEE IN THE ROOM WERE ON THE CURB HANDING OUT THIPGS AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. I HAVE HAVE FLOWER SEEDS I NEED TO PLANT SOON. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT ON 1 MAY, THE LIPROPRIETARY WILL HOST A STAR WARS IMPERIAL GALA. IF WE HAVE ANY FANS, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU DRESS UP. THERE WILL BE MUSIC, CRAFTS, AND A COSTUME CONTEST. I WISH YOU THE BEST OF[5. AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS.]
LUCK AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR COSTUMES.>> ANYONE ELSE? WE WILL MOVE AHEAD WITH AUBURN UNIVERSITY
COMMUNICATIONS. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I'M INASSISTANT VICE PRESIDENT OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS WITH AUBURN.
TONIGHT I'M HERE TO REPORT ON WHAT IS HAPPENING ON CAMPUS. THE SENATE CONFIRMED ALL DIRECTORS AND ASSISTANT DIRECTORS. WE ARE EXCITED TO GET OUR GOALS WORKING TO SERVE THE STUDENT BODY. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPROVED AN EXPANSION TO EDGE DINING FOR A FRICTIONLESS CONVENIENCE STORE WHICH MEANS IT IS OPERATED BY A.I., CAMERAS AND WEIGHT CENSORS TO HELP WITH STUDENT SHOPPING BECAUSE OF CONGESTION ON THE CENTER OF CAMPUS. THE PANEL IS IS HOSTING THE GREEK SEEING COMPOTATION TO HABITAT FOR MEW MANATEE HUMANITY E. FINALLY AUBURN BASEBALL COMPLETED A HOME SWEEP OVER LSU FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FOUR DECADES. THE GOLF HAD A THIRD PLACE FINISH IN TOURNAMENT IN SAVANNAH. AND AUBURN A DAY WAS A PROMISING LOOK AT THE UPCOMING SEASON AND I THINK EVERYONE IS EXCITED. THANK YOU, JACK. WE ARE THANKFUL FOR WHAT THEY DO FOR HABITAT. EVERY YEAR THEY PAY FOR A NEW HOUSE FOR A FAMILY AND SOMETIMES TWO. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR OUR STUDENTS AND THE WAY THEY INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE WAY THEY SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATION. CITIZENS COMMUNICATION ON ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THIS IS ONLY FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. IF YOUR ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING, I ASK THAT YOU WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL . BUT IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US URNAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE 5 MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL. I SEE SOME FOLKS LOOKING AROUND, WONDERING. IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ATTACHED TO IT.
THERE IS ONE THAT HAS A PUBLIC HEARING, THE LAST ONE, 9C HAS A
[7. CITY MANAGER’S COMMUNICATIONS.]
PUBLIC HEARING. YES, MA'AM? OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE WILL MOVE AHEAD WITH CITY MANAGER COMMUNICATIONS.MARY COVERED THIS BUT UNDER CITY MANAGER COMMUNICATIONS WE WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT 8B4 HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA ON THE ADVICE OF LEGAL COUNCIL. THERE IS A VACANCY ON THE BOARD OF ZONING, ENDING JANUARY 20, 2026. YOU WILL BE MAKING THAT
APPOINTMENT IN MAY. THANK YOU. >> OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM AND DEAL WITH THAT ITEM INDIVIDUALLY?
>> DOES 8B4 NEED TO BE REMOVED? >> IT IS ALREADY REMOVED AS IF
IT DOESN'T EXIST. . >> OKAY. I WILL MOTION FOR
[8.b.2. Toter, LLC. Purchase 1,248 ninety-six gallon roll-out garbage carts. $73,776.]
CONSIDERATION O OF THE -- APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA SECOND I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE 8 BRAVO2 PLEASE.>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY.
>> 8B2, WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE 8B2 AUTHORIZES THE PURCHASE OF GARAGE CANS IN THE AMOUNT OF 23, 776.
>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.
MR. GRISWOLD? >> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES ARE FANTASTIC. THAT IS A HIGH POINT OF THE CITY. 12048 ADDITIONAL CARTS. WHAT IS THE LIFE SPAN OF THESE THINGS? HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE TO REPLACE THEM AND HOW DO WE STAND IN TERMS OF HOW MANY ARE DAMAGED AND HOW MANY ARE NEW
AND THAT KIND OF THING? >> WE HAVE ABOUT 120 NEW CARTS.
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WHEN SOMEONE PURCHASES A NEW HOUSE, THEY GET A NEW CART. IF SOMEONE HAS AN EXISTING HOUSE AND HAS A NEW CART, THEY GET A NEW CART THAT IS LIGHTLY USED, ONE WE HAVE REPAIRED THAT IS STILL GOOD. CARTS LAST 17 TO 20 YEARS. THE WARRANTY INCLUDES THELID, WHEELS, AND AXLE. >> SO ON A FREQUENT BASIS, YOU COLLECT THEM BASED ON CONCERNS FROM EMPLOYEES, REPAIR THEM, SOMETIMES BEYOND REPAIR AND SOMETIMES ONE OF THE TRUCKS
UNINTENTIONALLY DESTROYS ONE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. ANY TIME YOU USE ASSISTANT SIDE LOADING EQUIPMENT, EVERY I WANT TO SAY 25,000 OR SO, WE MAY HIT A GLITCH IN WHICH ONE SLIPS OFF INTO THE HOPPER AND WE CAN'T RETRIEVE IT.
>> OF THE 1248 THIS TIME, WHAT WOULD BE TO REPLACED DAMAGED
CARTS? >> MAJORITY ARE DAMAGED. EACH MONTH WE ARE DEALING WITH ABOUT 55 NEW HOUSES. SO EVERY MONTH, 55 NEW HOUSES. BUT THIS WILL LAST US UNTIL THE NEW FISCAL
YEAR. >> AND WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT
THE WARRANTY? >> 17 TO 20 YEARS. THE WARRANTY
OR THE LIFE SPAN? >> THE LIFE TIME AND WARRANTY AS WELL, ON THE PLAST BIC ONLY. THANK YOU. YOU DO A GREAT JOB.
YOU REPLACED ONE OF MINE RECENTLY SO THANK YOU.
>> XAE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS RELATED TO 8B2? A MOTION AND A
[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA.]
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THECONSENT AGENDA? >> SO MOVED. A MOTION OR SECOND.
[9.a.1. City taxes - 5 mills for general purposes (General Fund). City taxes - 5 mills for capital projects debt repayment (Special Five Mill Tax).]
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? THE CONSENT AGENDACARRIES FORWARD. ORDINANCES? >> BEAR WITH ME, WE HAVE THREE SIMILAR AGENDA ITEMS IN A ROW BUT I HAVE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PACES WITH ALL OF THEM. 9A1 ADVAL ORM PROPERTY TAXES, ADMILLS FOR THE GENERAL PURPOSES AND THE CAPITAL PROJECTS DEBT REPAYMENT KNOWN AS SPECIAL FIVE MILL TAX. COUNCIL MUST ANNUALLY RENEW THE TAX FOR THE COMMISSIONER TO ASSESS PROPERTY TAXES. TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS A RENEWAL OF EXISTING TAXES. THESE ARE NOT NEW TAXES OR TAX INCREASES. UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS
NECESSARY. >> I WILL INTRODUCE THE
ORDINANCE AND ASK FOR CONSENT. >> SO MOVED.
>> WE WILL MOVE FORWARD ON THIS THIS EVENING. ANY QUESTIONS?
[9.a.2. School taxes - 11 mills for educational purposes (Special School Tax Fund).]
>> YES ADAMS YES. >> ADDING SCHOOL TAXES, 11 MILLS, FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. MUST RENEW THE PROPERTY TAXES TO ASSESS CITY PROPERTY TAXES. THIS IS A RENEWAL OF EXISTING TAXES.
THESE ARE NOT NEW TAX INCREASES. UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY.
>> I INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE AND ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH AN A VOTE ON THIS? HEARING NONE, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS 9A3? WE HAVE MOVED BEYOND THE OTHER ONE. THIS ONE
IS FOR SCHOOL TAX. >> WE ARE ON 9A2?
>> STILL ON 2? ARE WE ON THE 11 MILLS?
>> YES, 11 MILLS. THAT OF COURSE IS NOT A SCHOOL TAX. IT IS THE LARGEST ONE THAT WE WILL DISCUSS TONIGHT, 1.1 CENTS PER DOLLAR OF
-- IT IS SCHOOL TAX. >> IT IS.
>> I'M SORRY. SPECIAL SCHOOL TAX FUND. MY BAD. BUT IT IS THE LARGEST ONE. IT ONLY REPRESENTS A PENNY 1.1 CENTS PROPERTY TAX RECEIVED BY AUBURN. THAT'S WHAT 11 MILLS MEANS.
>> ANYONE ELSE? >> ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL?
[9.a.3. School taxes - 5 mills for educational purposes (Special School Tax Fund).]
>> ITEM 9A3, A SEPARATE TAX OF 5 MILLS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES, KNOWN AS SPECIAL TAX FUND. MUST ANNUALLY RENEW THE TAX. THIS IS RENEWAL OF EXISTING TAX. IT'S NOT NEW TAX AND NOT A TAX
INCREASE. >> I WILL INTRODUCE THE
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ORDINANCE AND ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT.>> ANY HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH A VOTE? HEARING NONE, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY. ROLL CALL?
[9.b. Annexation. Mitchell Farms 2 Annexation. Approximately 210.88 acres. Lee Road 146 (Moores Mill Road), approximately 0.5 miles east of Society Hill Road. Planning Commission recommendation. Unanimous consent necessary.]
>> YES. >> DAWSON YES, ANDERS.
>> YES. >> ITEM 9B IS A REQUEST FOR MITCHELL FARMS TO AN EXAPPROXIMATELY 210 ACRES, A HALF MILE EAST OF SOCIETY HILL ROAD. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT MARCH 20 MEETING. UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS
NECESSARY. >> I WILL INTRODUCE THE
ORDINANCE AND ASK FOR CONSENT. >> ANYONE ELSE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS? ANY COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS? >> TO CLARIFY, THIS IS WITHIN THE OPTIMAL BOUNDARIES? IT IS ON THE EDGE BUT IT IS IN. ONE PARCEL DOWN THREE ROAD 146 WOULD BE OUT.
>> IT IS DESIGNATED AS LOW PRIORITY FOR ANNEXATION?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE ANNEXATION PRIORITIES. ONE OF THE SHIFTING OPINIONS HAS BEEN FROM THE ORIGINAL ANNEXATION PRIORITIES, THEY ARE MUCH MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF IF A PROPERTY IS VIABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT. AT THE TIME THAT THIS, CURRENT ANNEXATION PRIORITY BEING SET, THIS IS AT THE FAR FRINGES OF THE CITY AND STILL IS BUT IT NEVER WAS REALLY CONTEMPLATED FOR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF UTILITIES NEVER MAKING IT OUT THERE BUT ALSO JUST FROM A SCOPE OF DEVELOPMENT NOT REALLY BEING SUITABLE FOR THE WATER SHED. I THINK WHAT THE SHIFT HAS BEEN INTERNALLY, I THINK THE NEW UPDATE AROUND ANNEXATION PRIORITIES WILL REFLECT CONTEMPLATING BRINGING THE BOUNDS OF THE WATER SHED INTO THE CITY LIMITS FOR THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A WATER SHED IN THE CITY LIMITS. SO THAT JUST SPEAKS TO WHY THERE WAS SUPPORT OF THIS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL AND STAFF LEVEL. THANK YOU.
>> THIS WILL COME IN NOT AS RURAL BUT RURAL AND CONSERVATION OVER LOAD? WE WILL HAVE THE PLANNING DIRECTOR EXPLAIN THAT.
YES, AND AS MENTIONED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHEN THE CONSERVATION OVER LAY DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED, THERE WERE TWO SEPARATE ORDINANCES THAT HAPPENED. THE INITIAL ESTABLISHED THE DISTRICT THAT CAN BE APPLIED THROUGHOUT THE CITY IF SOMEONE REQUESTS IT. THEN THERE IS A CARVE OUT FOR THE LAKE OGLETREE WATER SHED. THERE WAS A SEPARATE ORDINANCE THAT REZONED ALL OF THE PROPERTY IN THE CITY THAT WAS WITHIN THE LAKE OGLETREE WATER SHED INTO THE OVER LAY DISTRICT. THAT SET THE PRECEDENT THAT IF SOMETHING WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY WITHIN THE WATER SHED, IT RECEIVED DESIGNATION OF CONSERVATION OVER
LAY. >> THERE IS A STORIED HISTORY OF THE WATER SHED PRECEDING THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT PARTICULARLY IN REGARDS TO THE DAIRY FARM AND OTHER THINGS IN THE WATER SHED. THE CITY HAS BEEN TO PROTECT THE WATER SHED AND THINGS GOING INTO LAKE OGLETREE. THEY CAN'T GET ANY GREATER DENSITY BUT THEY CAN HAVE LOT SIZES AS SMALL AS 1.5 ACRES BUT THEY CAN'T BUILD ANY MORE UNITS. BUT IT WILL ALLOW TO CLUSTER UNITS AND LEAVE MORE OPEN SPACE IN CERTAIN AREAS WHICH IS BETTER FOR THE WATER SHED. THAT IS CORRECT.
>> SO IF WE HAVE 1.5 ACRE LOTS, IT'S NOT AN ACRE AND A HALF FOR THE WHOLE PLACE. I JUST THOUGHT PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO BE AWARE OF THAT IF THEY SEE AN ACRE AND A HALF LOT. IT DOESN'T MEAN THERE WILL BE MORE DENSITY AS YOU SAID ON THE PROPERTY. CORRECT. AND THERE IS A VARIETY OF SIZES ALSO YES. YOU CAN GO DOWN TO AN ACRE AND A HALF. IT GIVES THAT FLEXIBILITY BUT WITH THE CONSERVATION OVER LAY DISTRICT, THEY ARE SWAPPING OUT THE THE LARGE LOTS FOR A LOT MORE SCRUTINY. THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT CONCEPT PLANS, SIDEWALK WITH WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL DISCUSSION INTERNALLY ABOUT THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOTS, THE ROAD NETWORK, HOW THEY ARE GOING TO LOG THE SITE. A LOT O OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH
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GETTING APPROVAL. THERE IS A LOT OF SCRUTINY THAT MOST ARE NOT SUBJECT TO. THAT GOES WITH THE CONSERVATION OVER LAY DISTRICT.THEY ARE GETTING WHAT LOOKS TO BE A SMALLER LOT SIZE, THEY ARE TRADING WITH LOWER SCRUTINY FOR PRIORITY FOR THE SUBDIVISION.
>> DOES THE FUTURE ROUND ABOUT AT SOCIETY HILL IMPACT THE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN? >> WE HAD AN INITIATIVE PLAN. I WILL HAVE SCOTT COMINGS ADDRESS THAT. THERE WAS KRN CONCERN OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. THE ROUND ABOUT IS AT MORESVILLE AND ALREADY ANTICIPATED AND THE CITY COMMITTED THE FUNDS FOR THAT T WHICH THE COUNCIL APPROVED A FEW WEEKS AGO. IN ESSENCE, THAT HAS BEEN ANTICIPATED AND AS PLANNED. THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THESE LOTS, THAT THEY CAN'T BUILD MORE THAN TEN LOTS IN A YEAR. BY THE TIME THE DELAY OF THE PROJECT ITSELF AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE NECESSARY BECAUSE THE ROUND ABOUT SHOULD BE BUILT THE TEN LOTS PER YEAR WAS PREDICATED ON THE ROUND ABOUT NOT BEING FINISHED. ONCE IT IS FINISHED, IT CHANGES THE ABILITY.
>> THERE IS A TIMING PIECE IN THERE TOO, THE ROUND ABOUT OR END OF FISCAL YEAR 26. CORRECT. THAT WAS THE ANTICIPATED TIME OF
GETTING THE ROUND ABOUT BUILT. >> THANK YOU.
>> KELLY? >> THANK YOU. SO IT SAYS WE GOT 48 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND 16 CONVENTIONAL FAMILY LOTS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A POTENTIAL OF 64 NEW HOMES. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I GUESS THERE ISN'T A PLAT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BUT THERE IS A SUBSEQUENT PLAT THAT IS WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH THAT HASN'T BEEN SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW TO THE CITY.
>> THAT'S JUST WHAT'S IN THE --.
>> THERE IS AN EXISTING PHASE ONE THAT IS SOUTH OF THIS. THERE IS WHAT COULD BE BUILT ON IT CURRENTLY. I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF WORK, KIND OF. IT IS A MUCH BIGGER PROJECT T THAN THAT.
>> SO IT SAYS THE EXPECTED PROPOSED PRELIMINARY PLAT SHOWED 16 CONVENTIONAL AND 48 FAMILIES. SO POTENTIAL OF 64 UNLESS THEY CHANGE SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD? CORRECT.
>> THERE IS, BECAUSE IT IS IN THE CONSERVATION OVER LAY, THERE WILL BE MORE SCRUTINY, WE ARE NOT DOING THREE ACRE LOTS LIKE WE WOULD NORMALLY DO IN A RURAL ANNEXATION. CORRECT. THEY CAN DO THREE ACRE, CAN'T DO MORE. WHAT CONSERVATION ALLOWS THEM TO DO IS THEY CAN CLUSTER THE DEVELOPMENT DOWN TO 1.5 ACRES AND THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE MORE LAND AND THAT WOULD BE IN A CONSERVATION EASEMENT IN PERPETUITY THAT CAN NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED. INSTEAD OF THAT IN THE BOUNDARIES OF LOT LINES, IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO PEOPLE'S PRIVATE DECISIONS IF THEY WANED TO CUT DOWN TREES, THEY COULD DO THAT BECAUSE IT IS ON THEIR PROPERTY. BY CLUSTERING THE DEVELOPMENT, IT LEAVES LAND THAT WOULD THEN HAVE TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY OR HAS TO BE PUT IN
A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. >> THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY AT THIS TIME. THAT'S JUST AN OPTION IN
THE ORDINANCE. >> WHO PROVIDES THEIR WATER? THAT WOULD BE BOGUARD WATER AUTHORITY.
>> THERE IS NO SEWAGE AVAILABLE IN THE AREA. WE ARE LOOKING AT 64 SEPTIC SYSTEMS WITHIN THE WATER SHED.
>> CORRECT. >> IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?
>> WELL, THERE'S REALLY NO WAY AROUND IT THAT I CAN SEE FROM OUR STANDPOINT. THREE ACRES LOTS IS PLENTY BIG ENOUGH.
>> SO IF IT IS AVERAGING OVER THE WHOLE PROPERTY, IT IS
ULTIMATELY FINE. >> YEAH. FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A LEGAL BASIS TO NOT ALLOW
IT. THAT IS CORRECT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY. ROLL CALL?
[9.c. Rezoning. Spring Creek Estates. Approximately 1.11 acres from NC-20 to NC-14. Property located at 615 S. College Street. Planning Commission recommendation. Unanimous consent necessary. Public hearing required.]
>> YES. >> GRISWOLD NO, MA'AM.
>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. ITEM 9C IS A REQUEST TO REZONE 1.11 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED 615 SOUTH COLLEGE STREET FROM
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NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION 20 TO NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION 14.THE PLANNING COMMISSION FAILED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST BY A VOTE OF 3-5 # AT MARCH 20 MEETING. UNANIMOUS
CONSENT IS NEEDED. >> I WILL INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE AND ASK FOR YOUNANIMOUS CONSENT.
>> DOES ANYONE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MOVING FORWARD ON A VOTE? SEEING AND HEARING NONE. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS, COME FORWARD. GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE 5
MIPTS TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL. >> GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.
MY NAME IS BIANNA LOUISE CITINEA. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED AT 550 SOUTH GAZE STREET FOR 41 YEARS. BEFORE I ADDRESS THE ISSUE AT HAND, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE WORK AND DEDICATION THAT THEY DO BECAUSE IT IS TIME, IT'S EFFORT FOR THE GREATER GOOD AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT I'M ATTENDING THIS COUNCIL MEETING TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION FOR THE ZONING CHANGE AT 615 SOUTH COLLEGE STREET FROM NC20 TO NC14. THIS DEVELOPER'S PLAN IS TO CREATE A SMALL DEVELOPMENT OF FIVE HOUSES, THREE ON 615 SOUTH COLLEGE, PLUS TWO MORE ON THE LOT JUST NORTH OF T THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PLAN -- IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS STATED HAS NOT APPROVED MR. HAZE REQUEST. I WOULD URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT FOR AUBURN. NEIGHBORHOOD VOICES MUST BE HEARD AND LISTENED TO. WE DO NOT WANT AS IN THEIR ADVERTISING, GIANT WHITE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T WANT GIANT WHITE HOUSES ON A FLOOD PLANE. WE DON'T WANT GIANT WHITE HOUSES ON RELATIVELY SMALL LOTS NEXT TO BUNGALOWS AND RANCH STYLE HOMES THAT HAVE THE SAME SIZED LOT BUT HAVE LOTS OF WOODED AREA. WE DON'T WANT THE DECIMATION OF LARGE MATURE TREES. WE DON'T WANT SO MUCH CONCRETE ON THE GROUND THAT IT ENDANGERS THE PROPER FLOW OF WATER INTO THE CREEKS. TINKERING WITH NATURE'S DEFENSES WILL BRING MORE PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD TO AUBURN. WE HAVE ALREADY CONSIDERED, SUFFERED CONSIDERABLE DISTRESS WITH NOISE POLLUTION CONNECTED WITH RECENT BUILDINGS. WE CAN'T OUT DOORS WITHOUT HEARING LOUD NOISE OF MACHINERY. POLICE ACCEPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO AUBURN HAPPY EASTER AND HAPPY PASSOVER THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. WHO IS NEXT? >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS COREY REYNOLDS. I RESIDE AT 733 SOUTH COLLEGE STREET. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE TALON HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION KNOWN AS THE GIANT WHITE HOUSES ON SOUTH COLLEGE STREET. SORRY. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION OBVIOUSLY TO OUR DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME IN ON SOUTH COLLEGE. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT FULLY. HOWEVER I FEEL OUR LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC DID ENHANCE THE BEAUTY AND PRESERVE THE DENSITY OF THE HOME SITES ON SOUTH COLLEGE. WE HAVE SIX HOME SITES ON 5.2 ACRES OF LAND ON SOUTH COLLEGE. THAT IS IN CONTRAST TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, PUTTING 3 HOMES ON 1.1 ACRES AND ADDITIONAL TWO LOTS ON ABOUT 0.9 ACRE LOT. THERE IS DECREPANCIES BETWEEN OUR DEVELOPMENT AND THIS OTHER DEVELOPMENT BEING LOOKED AT. ON AVERAGE THE HOMES ON SOUTH COLLEGE AVERAGE HALF ACRE TOAN ACRE FOR EACH HOME SITE. SO A DEPARTURE FOR SO MANY HOMES ON SMALL DENSITY, A DEPARTURE FROM THE APPEARANCE DOWN SOUTH COLLEGE STREET. THERE IS TALK OF
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ADJACENT ZONING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BEING THERE IS NC14 ADJACENT TO THE LOT. THAT ADJACENT LOT IS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS LOT. IT IS NOT ONLY NORTH OF COLLEGE BUT ON THE BACK SIDE. THAT BACK SIDE IS MEADOW BROOK. THAT IS A SMALL STREET OFF OF GADE STREET. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO DRIVE DOWN MEADOW BROOK ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON MEADOW BROOK. IT IS NOT A MAIN THOROUGH FARE LIKE COLLEGE STREET. AS THE NAME IMPLIES, THE SPRING CREEK ESTATES THERE IS A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY. IT IS THE LOW POINT OF THE HILL, IF YOU ARE DRIVING DOWN SOUTH COLLEGE, IT'S AT THE LOW POINT OF THE HILL. WATER COMES FROM ARBORETUM AND IS PIPED THROUGH SOUTH COLLEGE AND FLOWS THROUGH THE FLOD PLANE. IT RUNS DOWN THE NORTH SIDE AND SOUTH SIDE AND DUMPS THERE. THERE IS A LOT OF WATER TO BE MANAGED THERE. THE REMOVAL OF MOST OF THE CURRENT VEGETATION IN THE AREA TO DEVELOP THE LOT IS GOING TO REMOVE WHAT DRAWS MUCH OF THAT WATER. IT WILL AFFECT PEOPLE DOWN THE CREEK.REMOVING THE VEGETATION, MORE WATER WILL FLOW THROUGH AND NOT BE SOAKED UP BY THE TREE AND OTHER VEGETATION THAT IS THERE.
THERE WAS ANOTHER LOT ON SOUTH COLLEGE STREET THAT WAS FOR SALE. DEVELOPERS WERE LOOKING TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY. IT WAS JUST NORTH OF THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. I KNOW SEVERAL DEVELOPERS THAT WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO SUBDIVIDE THAT LOT, PUT TWO HOMES WHERE THERE WAS ONE LITTLE RANCH. THE UNIVERSITY STEPPED IN AND BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR DEVELOPMENT BUT IT SEIZED DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UNIVERSITY WANTS TO DO WITH THE LOT BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT IT SUBDIVIDED. THERE WILL BE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT REQUESTS ON SOUTH COLLEGE. THERE ARE MANY OLDER HOMES. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER GENERATION OF HOME OWNERS.
OPENING THE DOOR TO REZONING OPENS THE DOOR FOR FUTURE REQUESTS FOR REZONING. THE CITY SHOULD LOOK AT PRESERVING THE MINIMUM HALF ACRE LOTS. IT'S THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE FOR VISITORS AND PEOPLE COMING DOWN AUBURN, COMING DOWN SOUTH COLLEGE. WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE SPACE. THAT IS MY THOUGHTS TO SHARE OUR CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON SOUTH COLLEGE.
>> THANK YOU. WHO IS NEXT? >> HI. MAY MY NAME IS CHARLIE O CURRY, 802 SOUTH GADE STREET. GOOD EVENING. A LOT OF WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TOO. THE REZONING ON 615 SOUTH COLLEGE STREET, I URGE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE OF THE IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE IT WILL CAUSE TO NATURE AND WILDLIFE IN THE AREA. WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA WHICH HAVE LED TO WILDLIFE GETTING PUSHED CLOSER TO THE ROADS AND STREETS AND HOMES PUSHED OUT. IN MY HOME, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE CREEK LOOKING AROUND AND I HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE ARE MORE FALLEN TREES BECAUSE OF THE GROUND GETS IMPERVIOUS WHEN THERE IS ASPHALT AND CONCRETE.
THAT WILL INCREASE RUN OFF INTO THE CREEK. WE ARE SEEING THAT AND A BUILD UP OF TRASH AND JUST OVERALL CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS THAT I HAVE SEEN THAT HAVE GOTTEN INTO THE CREEK DUE TO AN INCREASE IN RUN OFF. ON TOP OF THAT, THERE'S SOUND POLLUTION AND LIGHT POLLUTION HAVE BEEN INCREASED IN MY BACKYARD AND THE BACKYARDS OF OTHERS. NOW INSTEAD OF GOING OUT AT NIGHT AND SEEING THE STARS AND LISTEN TO THE SOUND OF NATURE, YOU CAN HEAR THE BACKGROUND OF COLLEGE STREET AND SEE THE LIGHTS OF THE HIGHWAY AS THE CARS DRIVE BY. I THINK THAT TAKES AWAY A LOT OF AUBURN AND HOW IT BALANCES BEING A TOWN AND HAVING THIS WONDERFUL BIT OF NATURE WITHIN IT. I THINK THAT IN THE WORRIES OF PRESERVING THE CREEK AND THE WILDLIFE AROUND, I THINK IT BE VOTED AGAINST THIS AND ANY FUTURE THINGS THAT COULD PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. WHO WILL BE NEXT?
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M PAUL SHACHLS, I LIVE THAT 563 SOUTH COLLEGE STREET. MY WIFE AND I RESIDE THERE FOR OVER 23 YEARS.
I WOULD TO FIRST REMIND YOU AND I'M GLAD THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WELL, SOME OF THE REASONS AND WE HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A REASON. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SUPPOSED TO APPROVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME UP THAT ARE -- THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO LOOK AT THEM AND THEN APPROVE OR DENY THEM. WHEN THEY CONSIDER
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ALL OF THE INDICATORS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DENY IT. THERE ARE SOME LEGITIMATE CONCERNS THEY HAD. A LOT OF THEM HAD TO DO WITH COMPLIANCE WITH WATER QUALITY AND SAFETY. 50% OF THIS AREA THEY WOULD LIKE TO DIVIDE IS IN A FLOOD PLANE. THERE IS A PERENNIAL STREAM THAT RUNS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT. THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A WAIVER OF A WATER RESOURCE PLAN TO GET APPROVAL FOR MANAGEMENT OF THE STREAM SIDE MANAGEMENT ZONE, PLUS FOR THE STREAM SIDE ZONE TO BE MANAGED FOREVER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE BANKS OF THE STREAM AS IT RUNS THROUGH DEVELOPMENT. THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT HAVING TO DO WETLANDS MITIGATION. WHAT THAT MEANS IS IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE GOING TO DESTROY PART OF THE WETLANDS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE STREAM. IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, THEY HAVE TO DIVIDE ON TWO ACRES TO ONE ACRE, THEY HAVE TO GO OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND REMEDIATE WETLANDS THAT WILL BE IN WETLANDS IN PERPETUITY FOR WHATEVER WETLANDS THEY DESTROY ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT. MY QUESTION IS HOW CLOSE IS THIS WETLAND REMEDIATION GOING TO BE TO SOUTH COLLEGE STREET? IS IT GOING TO BE WAY OUF IN THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT? WE DON'T KNOW. ONE MORE COMMENT. THE OTHER THING THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS PUTTING THREE HOUSES ON 1.1 ACRE. SO THEY ARE GOING TO DWIGHT THIS INTO THREE LOTS. PUT THREE HOUSES ON IT. THOSE THREE HOUSES, PLUS AN EXISTING LOT WILL ALL USE A COMMON DRIVEWAY. MY QUESTION IS HOW MANY DEVELOPMENTS IN AUBURN HAVE FOUR HOUSES USING A COMMON DRIVEWAY? I'M TALKING ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES IN NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICTS? THERE PROBABLY ARE NONE. CAN YOU IMAGINE FOUR HOUSES TRYING TO COME OUT OF ONE DRIVEWAY BETWEEN 7:30 AND 8:15 IN THE MORNING WITH EVERYONE TRYING TO GO TO WORK AND TRYING TO GET BACK INTO THE SAME DRIVEWAY AT 4:45 TO 5:15 WHEN THEY ALL COME HOME FROM WORK? THOSE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO CONSIDER. MOST OF WHAT I HAD IS ALREADY COVERED. SO I WON'T COVER THOSE AGAIN BUT IN CLOSING, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS COMMENT. IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE PROPOSAL IS GOING TO REQUIRE VARIANCES AND EXCEPTIONS IN WATER RESOURCE PLAN AND IN SAFETY PLAN WITH MULTIPLE HOUSES ON ONE DRIVEWAY.MY QUESTION IS WHY OPEN THE CITY UP TO HARMFUL UNINTENDED WATER RESOURCE, TRAFFIC CONGESTION CONSEQUENCES, ALL TO JUST APPROVE A DEVELOPER'S DESIRE TO CREATE EXTRA LOTS CLOSE TO THE CITY? JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN MEET THIS CHANGE TECHNICALLY DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A GOOD IDEA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY'S COMP 2030 PLAN, IT STRESSES THE IMPORTANCE OF SOUTH COLLEGE STREET BEING THE GATEWAY INTO THE CITY. DO WE WANT TO COME ON SOUTH COLLEGE STREET, TWO BLOCKS FROM CAMPUS AND HAVE FIVE HOUSES LOCATED ON LESS THAN TWO ACRES OF LAND WITH FOUR OF THEM SHARING ONE DRIVEWAY? I WOULD SUBJECT AND RECOMMEND THAT THAT CITY COUNCIL
TURN THIS PROPOSAL DOWN. . >> THANK YOU. WHO WILL BE NEXT?
>> GOOD EVENING RGS COUNCIL. MY NAME IS HAZEIFERED, WITH SANFORD GROUP. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS TODAY.
>> OKAY. ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF THE COUNCIL
HAS ANY QUESTIONS. >> MAYOR, I WOULD CAUTION IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION, YOU DON'T GET OPPORTUNITY -- STOP THE CLOCK HERE. TO OFFER INFORMATION OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING YOU FEEL THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW, THEY WILL ASK YOU QUESTIONS ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES. BUT IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, SAY IT NOW. YOU HAVE ABOUT 4:30
TO DO SO. . >> PERFECT. SO THERE ARE A FEW
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THINGS I WANTED TO CLEAR UP. REGARDING THE FLOOD PLANE AND STREAM BROUGHT UP, THE CITY HAS MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO PROTECT THESE THINGS AND WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES, NO T MATTER WHAT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT TO ABIDE BY CITY REQUIREMENTS. THE DEVELOPER HAS NO INTENT OF COMING IN AND MITIGATING ANY WETLANDS OR STREAMS ON THE PROPERTY T. WE HAVE ALREADY HAD EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT T THE FLOOD PLANE AND HOW THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED ON THE SITE, DUE TO THE NATURE HOW IT SITS AND THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE FLOOD PLANE. IT HAS AN ODD SHAPE DUE TO WHERE THE STREAM HITS. A LOT OF THE REZONING WILL UH-UH LOW US TO MAINTAIN THE DENSITY CONSISTENT WITH THE NC14 AREA BUT DUE TO THE ODD SHAPE OF THE LOTS AROUND THE FEATURES TO MAINTAIN THE STREAM, THIS REZONING WOULD AID IN REDEVELOPING THE PROPERTY.ANOTHER THIPG IS BY RIGHT, WE BELIEVE WE COULD GET FOUR LOTS, UP TO FIVE LOTS. THAT WOULD DRIVE DOWN MASSIVE WHITE HOUSES IF YOU WILL DOWN TO A MORE -- THEY WILL STILL BE LARGE HOUSES BUT MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS TYPICAL IN NC20 OR NC14.
>> THAUPG THANK YOU. WE WILL LET YOU KNOW IF WOE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL?
>> I'D LIKE TO HAVE WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT ADDRESS VARIOUS FLOOD PLANE AND CREEK CONCERNS.
>> OKAY. WHAT WE CAN DO IS WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, THERE ARE ASPECTS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT AND SOMETIMES UNDER STATE OR FEDERAL JURISDICTION. SO ERIC CAN CLARIFY OR SCOTT OR BRANDY MAY WEIGH IN BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SEEN TO DATE ON PLANS. GO AHEAD. IT WILL PROBABLY BE A 25 FOOT STREAM SIDE BUFFER AND 10 FOOT BUFFER OR MAYBE MORE. THERE ARE WETLANDS ON SITE. WITHOUT SEEING A PLAN OR MITIGATION PLAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN'T COMMENT ON WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT OR WHAT WE MIGHT ACCEPT. THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES THERE AS MENTIONED. WITHOUT A PLAN, IT IS JUST GOING
TOHAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. >> I WILL REMIND YOU THAT YOU ARE NOT CONSIDERING A SITE PLAN, CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL OF SUBDIVISION. YOU ARE PURELY CONSIDERING REZONING. SO QUESTIONS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES ON THE STAFF SIDE THAT WITHOUT A SITE PLAN, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU WETLANDS, FLOOD PLANE, STREAM BUFFER RELATED, WE HAVE STRINGENT REGULATIONS AS THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DO AND AS THE PROJECT REPRESENTATIVE SAID THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY, WHETHER IT IS REZONED O OR NOT. THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THET CRITERIA.
>> WHEN A DEVELOPER OR PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO MITIGATE WETLANDS OR FLOOD PLANES, THOSE CREDITS, DO WE DECIDE WHERE THOSE CREDITS
ARE USED OR BANKED? >> NO, YOU ARE BUYING CREDITS FROM A WETLAND BANK OR STREAM BANK ON A FLOOD PLANE SITE. YOU BUY THEM, THE CITY HAS TO BUY THEM AS TIMES AS WELL TO DEAL WITH BRIDGE PROJECTS, ONE OF OUR MOST FREQUENT. YOU ARE BUYING THEM FROM THE NEAREST BANK THAT HAS AVAILABLE CREDITS IN A REGION. THE ONLY TIME YOU GET TO DESIGNATE IS WHEN THE CITY OR ANOTHER ENTITY WILL CREATE THEIR OWN BANK FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO DEMAND WHICH BANK SOMEONE GOES TO BECAUSE THE CREDITS AREN'T ISSUED THROUGH THE CITY. THEY COME BASED ON OTHER REGULATORY AUTHORITIES.
>> THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE SAID BY RIGHT THEY COULD BUILD FOUR HOUSES. COULD YOU CONFIRM THAT? I WILL HAVE THE PLANE DIRECTOR SPEAK TO THAT. I WILL REMIND YOU, WE HAVE NOT SEEN FULL PLANS. ON THE NC14 THAT EXISTS TODAY AND NC20 THAT EXISTS TODAY THAT COULD HAPPEN. YOU HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF WATER RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, ENGINEERING, DRIVEWAY YET TO BE
DISCUSSED, CORRECT. >> IN THEORY.
>> CORRECT. YOU HAVE TO MEET A LOT OF REGULATIONS WHICH THEY MAY BE WORKING ON BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT THE TIME. BUT IN THEORY, THEY FIT AND MEET CRITERIA IN A ROUGH
LOOK AT IT. >> SO COMBINED, LIKE THEY ARE
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GETTING AT, THE LOT 16 IS BIG ENOUGH THAT THEY COULD SUBDIVIDE IT. AND THEY COULD PUT TWO MORE HOUSES ON IT. SAME THING WITH603. TWO MORE OR TWO PERIOD? >> THEY CAN DO TWO. BECAUSE
THERE IS ONE TODAY. >> SO BY RIGHT THEY CAN DO FOUR HOUSES. REZONING WOULD ALLOW THEM TO GET TO FIVE LIKE THEY
STATED. >> OKAY. MR. REYNOLDS SPOKE OF THE TALENT SUBDIVISION. WAS THERE ANY REZONING O OF THAT
PROPERTY? >> THERE WAS NOT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION INITIALLY DENIED THE PLAT WHICH THE COURTS REDIRECTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION KINDLY BECAUSE IT MET OUR CRITERIA AND THE PLAT WAS APPROVED. THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT CUTTING A NEW ROAD AND SITE DISTANCE ON COLLEGE STREET. THE STUDY ADDRESSED THAT SITE DISTANCE WAS ADEQUATE FOR THE SPEEDS AND TIMING OF THE ROAD. THAT WAS APPROVED. ALSO REMIND YOU THAT ZONING HAS BEEN THIS WAY SINCE 1984. I CAN'T GO BACK AND FIND WHY THIS WAS THE DIVIDING LINE BUT THE CREEK WOULD BE A NORMAL REASON WHY IT SHIFTED. LOT SIZES WERE SET IN GROUPINGS AT THE TIME, 14 MEANS 14,000 SQUARE FOOT MINNM. THEY TOOK GROUPINGS OF HOUSING, LOOKED AT THE SMALLEST LOT OF THE NC GROUPING, MADE THAT THE BOTTOM NUMBER. SO THINGS MUST HAVE SHIFTED OVER THE CREEK TO LARGER LOT SIZES. BUT FROM 1984, I CAN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING OTHER THAN AS WE HAVE SEEN CITY WIDE, IT WAS LIKELY
THE CREEK WAS THE DIVIDING LINE. >> THERE IS ANOTHER LOT ON SOUTH COLLEGE. I DON'T KNOW THE ADDRESS. I KNOW THE FRENCH FAMILY THAT USED TO LIVE THERE. IT LOOKS LIKE THE HOUSE HAS BEEN TORN DOWN. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE SOUGHT REZONING FOR THAT LOT. DO WE KNOW WHAT THEY WILL DO WITH THAT LOT? ANY PLANS
PRESENTED? >> I WOULD NEED AN ADDRESS.
>> WE DON'T. ONLY THING UNDER CONSIDERATION IS 615 TO SOUTH
COLLEGE FROM NC20 TO NC14. >> MAY I ASK ONE MORE ON THE WATER SHED ISSUE, WHAT TYPICAL AGENCIES WEIGH IN ON THE WATER
SHED OR FLOOD PLANE ISSUES? >> ERIC, OR SCOTT OR BRANDY?
>> I'LL TAKE IT THEN. ANYTHING RELATED TO THE STREAM AND MITIGATION OF STREAMS AND WETLANDS WOULD BE THE U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. FEMA WOULD ADDRESS ANYTHING RELATED TO FLOOD PLANE, ANY MITIGATION THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO RELATED TO THAT. ADE M DEALS WITH WHEN YOU ARE EXPOSING X AMOUNT O OF DIRT WHEN YOU PUT STORM PERMITTING THROUGH. BASED ON THESE SIZES
HERE, IT DEPENDS. >> BOTH OF THOSE WOULD REQUIRE ONE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT'S INPUT OR ANOTHER. I WILL SAY WE SEE THIS CITY WIDE, NOT JUST HERE. IT IS COMMON FOR PEOPLE TO DEAL
WITH ALL OF THESE AGENCIES. >> I WATCHED WITH GREAT INTEREST THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DELIBERATION ON THIS PROPOSAL. I THOUGHT THEY HANDLED IT APPROPRIATELY GIVEN THE KIND OF CAVALCADE OF PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPOSAL. THE DRIVEWAY ISSUE, THE FLOOD PLANE. AND FOR MY TASTE, AND I THINK THE SPIRIT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE, THE APPROACH INTO THE CITY, I REMEMBER IT VIVIDLY WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE IN 1998, THE ASTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THAT DENSITY AND THOSE STRUCTURES CLUSTERED TOGETHER REPRESENT THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL. SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS PROPOSAL.
>> ANYONE ELSE? >> I BELIEVE SOUTH COLLEGE IS SPECIAL. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT STIMULATED DENSITY BY CHANGING ZONING ON SOUTH COLLEGE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS -- I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS THE RIGHT THING FOR US TO DO. I DO BELIEVE THE BUILDER WOULD PUT A NICE PRODUCT THERE BUT I BELIEVE STIMULATING DENSITY ON SOUTH COLLEGE WOULD NOT BE PRODUCTIVE
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FOR OUR FUTURE AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I DO WANT, THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND, THAT BY RIGHT, THEY CAN BUILD FOUR HOUSES ON THOSE TWO LOTS. AND THERE IS NOT ANYTHING THIS BODY CAN DO ABOUT STOPPING THAT UNLESS THERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENT ISSUES THAT COME UP AND CHALLENGE THEIR ABILITY TO BUILD. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES WE HAVE THE POWER TOSTOP IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO STOP A REDEVELOPMENT OF TWO HOUSES ON EACH OF THOSE LOTS. AM I CORRECTBY SAYING THAT? >> IT WOULD BE A SUBDIVISION MATTER AND THE SUBDIVISION STATE LAW INDICATE PLANNING COMMISSIONS REVIEWING WHETHER THEY MEET THE CRITERIA SET BEFORE IN THE SUBDIVISION AND NOTHING MORE. PLANNING COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO APPROVE IF THEY MEET CRITERIA.
AS LONG AS THEY MEET CRITERIA IN SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT ADOPT SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. THE
PLANINGS COMMISSION DOES. >> SO BOTH LOTS, 603 CL IS IN NC14 IS CURRENTLY 29,000 SQUARE FEET. AND THEN 615, NC20, IS 48,000 SQUARE FEET. SO THAT IS DOUBLE NC20. SO TO THE POINT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER DOES HAVE SOLE JURISDICTION OVER SUBDIVISIONS AND PREPRELIMINARY PLATS RGS THIS WOULD NOT BE THE THRESHOLD TO MAKE IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS WOULD BE HANDLED INTERNALLY. IT WOULD ONLY BE AN ADMINPLAT AND FOUR, WE WOULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY ON WHETHER THEY HAVE APPROVAL FROM FEMA AND ALL THAT. THIS WOULD BE AN ADMINPLAT. IT WOULD NOT GO BACK TO PLANNING. BY THE NUMBER OF LOTS, IT MEETS
THAT CRITERIA. . >> ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER
COMMENTS. >> I'M CONFUSED. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO LOTS BUT ALL OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PACKET IS A SINGLE LOT THERE IS AN ADJACENT LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK THAT IS NC14. AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM MADE THE POINT THAT THEY HAVE CONTROL OF ANOTHER LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK. THAT'S WHY YOU ARE GETTING A DISCUSSION OF FOUR HOUSES PERMITTED BY RIGHT. THE REZONING IS 615, WHICH IS NC20.
>> THAT'S WHERE THIS HOME THAT IS ON THE MAPS IS.
>> CORRECT. THAT'S THE MAP. THE DEVELOPMENT IN TOTALITY WOULD BE 603 AND 615. 603 IS CURRENTLY NC14 AND DOES NOT NEED TO BE
REZONED. >> THE OTHER ONE IS ALREADY
>> THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MOREMAN, DID
YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> I THINK SO. THIS ONLY GOES DOWN TO ABOUT WOODFIELD IS THAT CORRECT?
>> IN THIS VICINITY, IT MIGHT. SUNNY SLOPE AND OTHERS TO CLOVER
LEAF IT EXTENDS FURTHER. >> ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.
>> YEAH, N.C. CARRIES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> WELL, JUST TO COMPARE IT TO NORTH COLLEGE, WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUE IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, THE ISSUE OF CLUSTERED HOMES BECAUSE IT IS PROTECTED BY HISTORICAL PRESERVATION
GUIDELINES. >> WELL, LET ME --.
>> PART OF IT. >> WHAT IS PROTECTED IN THE THICK OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT JUST NORTH OF BRYANT AVENUE AND MITCH M. ONE CHALLENGE IS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS NO JURISDICTION OVER SUBDIVIDING. THEY HAVE JURISDICTION OVER NEW STRUCTURES BEING BUILT OR REPLACEMENT OF STRUCTURES BUT NOTHING WOULD KEEP SOMEBODY FROM SUBDIVIDING. A LOT OF THAT IS ZONED 8 WHICH IS 8,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUMS. IT IS A DIFFERENT
NUANCE THERE. >> WELL, I HOPE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NORTH OF TOWN NOR SOUTH OF TOWN. I JUST WANTED TO DRAW A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE WAY THEY LOOK. I THINK THAT FLAVOR OF AUBURN GOING NORTH, GOING SOUTH, IS SACRED. IT'S NOT SACK ROSANCT BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO US. I WOULD REMIND THE CITIZENS AND COUNCIL ABOUT THE PERSONALITY OF AUBURN. THAT IS PART OF IT.
>> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. ROLL CALL? >> PARSONS.
[10.a.1. Boulevard Phase 8. Performance residential use (multiple unit development). Property located at the terminus of Gidden Street.]
>> NO. >> THAT MOTION FAILS. ARE YOU
READY FOR RESOLUTIONS? >> PLEASE.
>> ITEM 10A ONE IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERFORMANCE OF
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EIGHT UNITS TO BE LOCATED AT GIDDEN STREET IN THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENCE DISTRICT. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AT THE APRIL 10 MOTING. A PUBLICHEARING IS REQUIRED. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL, COME FORWARD AND GIVE US THE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL. SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE? ANY
[10.a.2. Grand Junction. Performance residential use (multiple unit development). Property located at 1027 E. Glenn Avenue.]
OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. >> 10A2 IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL OF PERFORMANCE RESIDENTIAL USE MULTIUNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR 28 UNITS AT 1027 EAST GLENN AVENUE IN THE CORRIDOR EAST DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. GRAND JUNCTION AND KNOWN AS EAST GLENN MIXED USE. THE ORIGINAL CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL HAS EXPIRED. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AT APRIL 10 MEETING. PUBLIC HEARING IS
REQUIRED. MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.
>> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL, COME FORWARD TO DWIFB US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE 5
MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.
>> BRIAN STONE WITH BCC STONE HOMES, 687 NORTH. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU ON THIS. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS PROJECT GOT AWAY FROM ME ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND IT FOUND ITS WAY BACK TO ME. WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD TO IT. THE CONDITIONAL USE EXPIRED. I WANTED TO GIVE SOME, SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT. IT IS SIMILAR IN SCOPE TO WHAT I PRESENTED TO YOU A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. THE PLAYERS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WE HAVE 28 TOWN HOMES IN THE BACK WHICH IS WHAT THE CONDITIONAL USE IS ABOUT, NOTHING HAS CHANGED THERE. THE TWO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS IN THE FRONT UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BREWERY. I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE DISAPPOINTED. WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT IT. BCC STONE HOMES WILL OCCUPY THE TOP STORY. WE WILL BE THERE PERMANENTLY. THERE WILL BE A TENANT SPACE BELOW US IN THE EAST BUILDING WHERE WE HAVE YET TO SECURE A TENT. THE WEST BUILDING AND PATIO AREA WILL BE CAR VELA'S RESTAURANT. THEY WILL DO THEIR SIXTH LOCATION IN AUBURN, ALABAMA. WE ARE READY TO GET STARTED AS SOON AS WE GET APPROVED. WE HAVE PLANS PENDING DRT. I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ANYONE MAY HAVE. ONCE WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, IF WE NEED TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS, WE WILL CALL YOU BACK UP. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL? OKAY. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY COMMENTS OR
[10.b. Tax abatement. 2a USA, Inc. 2410 W. Tech Lane.]
QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR AAYE? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. 10B AUTHORIZES A TAX ABASEMENT FOR INCORPORATED AT 2410 FOR PURCHASE OF NEW EQUIPMENT. THE COMPANY PLANS TO INVEST $2.7 MILLION AND ACCEPTS HIRING FOUR NEW EMPLOYEES MOVE FOR APPROVAL SECOND ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR INDUSTRIES EXPANDING IN THE COMMUNITY. THANKFUL THEY WANT TO GROW THE BUSINESS HERE. THANK YOU TO OUR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TEAM FOR THEIR WORK.ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION
[10.c. Vacation. Sanitary Sewer Easement/Drainage and Utility Easement. GAAL OWNER, LLC. The Graduate Hotel. Property located at 212 W. Magnolia Ave. Public hearing required.]
CARRIES. >> ITEM 10C, THE SEWER AND PUBLIC UTILITIESEMENT AT 212 WEST MAGNOLIA AND AUTHORIZES THE MARIN CITY MANAGER TO EXCUTE A QUIT CLAIM DEED RELINQUISHING
THE PROPERTY. >> MOVE FOR PROVAL. SECOND.
>> THIS TIME I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL, COME FORWARD WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES.
[10.d. CompPlan 2030. 5-year updates. Text changes for every chapter. Future Land Use Plan Amendments. Public hearing recommended. Postponed from January 23, 2025.]
>> THE MOTION CARRIES . >> THE LAST AGENDA ITEM IS AUTHORIZING TEXT AMENDMENTS AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGES TO PLAN 2030 AS PART OF A FIBER-OPTIC, THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS UPDATE AT HIS NOVEMBER 14TH MEETING AT THE CITY COUNCIL INITIALLY POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF THIS REQUEST IN THE DECEMBER 17TH MEETING, AND POSTPONE IT TO JANUARY 21ST . WE HAD AN ICE AND
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SNOWSTORM THAT CAUSED US TO MOVE IT TO GENERATE 23RD . DURING THE MEETING, COUNCILPERSON PARSONS MADE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM SECONDED THE MOTION, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPEN AND CLOSED THAT EVENING. AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, COUNCILPERSON PARSONS MOVED TO AMEND THE ITEMS TO REMOVE CHANGES 5 AND 6, WHERE PRO TEM SECONDED THE MOTION AND ALL MEMBERS VOTED YES, COUNCILPERSON DAWSON MOVED TO POSTPONE THE ITEM TO THE MEETING THIS EVENING . COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING THE APPROVAL OF THE COMP PLAN 2030 UPDATE AS AMENDED BY THE REMOVAL OF GROWTH STAGES 5 AND 6 ON THE PUBLIC HEARING IS RECOMMENDEDBUT NOT REQUIRED. >> MOVED FOR APPROVAL . YOU ARE ALREADY GOOD. IT IS ON THE TABLE YOU ARE GOOD . I WOULD LIKE TO
REQUEST A PUBLIC HEARING. >> OKAY .
>> WE ARE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING , IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE COME WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ?
OR AMENDMENTS? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND CHANGE 7, LEAVE ALL PARCELS PROPOSED, INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL OFFICE PARK COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL. THE TIMING IS NOT RIGHT. THERE IS SOME EXISTING RESIDENCE IN THE VICINITY OF THE PARCELS PROPOSED COULD BE CHANGED TO INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL AND REEVALUATED IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD LIKE TO
THANK OUR STAFF . >> SECOND . A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL REGARDING THIS MOTION? DO WE TAKE A VOICE VOTE OR ROLL CALL ?
>> YOU HAVE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU THAT COUNCILMAN DAWSON ASK I SHARE AND I CAN PUT MAPS ON THE SCREEN IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO RUN THROUGH THOSE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND
AND WILL BE -- >> THIS IS ANOTHER AMENDMENT.
>> PUT ON THE SCREEN FOR THE PUBLIC CONSUMPTION .
>> OKAY. >> WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS GROWTH CHANGE NUMBER 7, I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE AS EXISTING AND THEN WHAT IS PROPOSED AS PART OF THE COMP PLAN AND WHAT THE CHANGE COUNCILMAN DAWSON IS PROPOSING .
THE BOX TO THE LEFT HIGHLIGHTED WITH A BLACK BORDER, YOU HAVE FIRST , HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, JUST BROUGHT UP , THE PURPLE DIAGONAL HATCHING AREA WITH TWO PIECES THAT WERE PROPOSED , CURRENTLY OFFICE PARK , COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, AND TWO OTHER PIECES HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW THAT ARE CURRENTLY INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL . WHAT WAS PROPOSED AS PART OF THE COMP PLAN IS MOVING TO THE RIGHT. THE PURPLE CROSS HEDGE AREAS , WELL, SORRY, AREAS THAT WERE INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL AND NOW WILL BE FLIPPED TO OFFICE PARK COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL. SOME THAT WERE JUST THE OPPOSITE , THESE TWO BE FLIPPED TO INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL THIS LAST LIGHT WILL MAKE IT A LOT CLEAR, WHAT COUNCILMAN DAWSON IS PROPOSING, THE PARCELS OUTLINED IN YELLOW WILL BE CHANGED FROM INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL TO OFFICE PARK COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SUPPORT AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
HOWEVER, THESE TWO PARCELS WILL NOT BE CHANGED TO INTERSTATE COMMERCIAL . IT IS TAKING THOSE TWO PARCELS, ONE OUT , THERE ARE THREE RESIDENCES ON THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH THAT IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW, ABOUT CORPORATE PARKWAY , AND OTHERS ALONG THE INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE . THEY WILL KEEP THEIR CURRENT LAND USE WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY OFFICE PARK COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SUPPORT . I WILL REMIND YOU THIS I ZERO TO DO WITH ZONING. THAT COMES LATER. THIS IS JUST FUTURE LAND USE
PLAN . >> THEY WILL REMAIN RURAL?
>> AS PART OF ZONING, THE TWO PARCELS HERE, ONE IS WORLD, THE SOUTHERN ONE, THE NORTHERN ONE, THREE PARCELS ARE RURAL AND WHAT IS CDD ZONED. A LOT OF THE OTHERS ARE RURAL, BUT ZONING IS NOT INTO THE PICTURE, THERE IS BEEN CONFUSION BUT YOU ARE NOT CONSIDERING A ZONING CHANGE TONIGHT AND I THINK COUNCILMAN DAWSON SENT EMAILS TO HIS CONSTITUENTS EXPLAINING.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ? OKAY. I WILL ASK AGAIN -- MAKE YOU WILL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT --
>> YOU WOULD JUST VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.
>> ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. >> AYE.
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>> IT CARRIES. >> RESIDENTIAL AS WORLD?
>> I RECOMMENDING THIS BECAUSE WE ARE STILL NOT READY FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT TO OPEN UP WEST AUBURN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. MY CONCERNS , MY INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY, INAUDIBLE ] I WOULD LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO SHOW INTEREST AND HOPE WE CAN DO SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.
>> CHIEF , WE HAVE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. WOULD YOU LIKE
ME TO GO OVER THESE? >> PLEASE .
>> A FEW MORE LAND-USE DESIGNATIONS, RURAL ON THE LEFT SIDE, LIMITED RESIDENTIAL, THE GREEN STRIPING, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, STARTING WITH WHERE WE STAND, THE BLACK BOX OUTLINE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE OUTLINED IN RED, THAT IS CURRENTLY RURAL . EVERYTHING BEING CONSIDERED IS RURAL. WHEN YOU GET TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, THE FIRST HIGHLIGHTED PARCEL WITH THE BLUE AROUND IT , THAT WAS AT A PROPERTY OWNER'S REQUEST TO BE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL . YOU HAVE THIS BOX BELOW WHICH IS THE GREEN STRIPE , TO BE LIMITED RESIDENTIAL WHICH WOULD BE ONE ACRE PARCELS AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT DENSITY.
THEN , THE VERY LAST PARCEL , SLATED TO GO FROM RURAL TO INDUSTRIAL. WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS AMENDMENT , THE PARCEL WOULD BE CHANGED FROM RURAL TO INDUSTRIAL AS PROPOSED AND ALTHOUGH THOSE WOULD REMAIN RURAL AS SHOWN ON THE MAP ON THE
LEFT AS EXISTING. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ? THOUGHTS , QUESTIONS? OKAY . ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> AYE. >> THE MOTION CARRIES. ANY
FURTHER AMENDMENTS ? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A TEXT CHANGE TO AN AMENDMENT. TURN TO PAGE 41. THE PUBLIC SAFETY
>> THE FOURTH PARAGRAPH ON THAT PAGE , STARTS OFF WITH A SENTENCE THAT SAYS, AS THE POPULATION GROWS, THEY WILL NEED TO MAINTAIN A DIVERSITY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT IMPLIES THAT VERSUS -- SENTENCE , THE REST REFERS TO THE HISPANIC POPULATION AND MULTILINGUAL AS A SKILL REGARDLESS OF THE ETHNICITY OR -- THAT IS APPROPRIATE. I APPLAUD -- FOR HAVING SPANISH SPEAKERS ON STAFF BUT I BELIEVE THE FIRST SENTENCE TAKES US DOWN A PATHWAY THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY BASED ON MERIT. I WOULD RECOMMEND DELETING THAT FIRST SENTENCE.
>> THAT WOULD BE A MOTION ? >> THAT IS MY MOTION, YES .
>> SECOND . >> COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM
THE COUNCIL ? >> THIS REFERS TO THE SENTENCE, WE RECEIVED SOME EXPLANATION --
>> THAT HAS BEEN IN THERE SINCE THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED, THE ONLY THING PROPOSED TO CHANGE IS THE WORD DEPARTMENT. I HAVE CORRESPONDED WITH COUNCILMAN GRISWOLD ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY, THIS TERM DIVERSITY IS DIVERSE AND BROAD IN NATURE, THAT IS GENDER, THAT A SKILL SET, THAT IS MANY THINGS, IT IS NOT REFERRING TO RACE , IT IS A BROAD TERM OF DIVERSITY IN PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A VERY BROAD DEFINITION . IT IS CERTAINLY UP TO THE COUNCIL IF YOU WANT TO
CHANGE THAT. >> I READ THAT, TOO . I UNDERSTOOD THE INTENT. LET ME JUST SAY, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT SENTENCE WAS EXACTLY AS YOU PROVIDED JUST NOW. DIVERSITY MEANING A COMBINATION OF A VARIETY OF SKILL SETS, PEOPLE , WALKS OF LIFE. I KNOW THAT THAT WORD , PARTICULARLY THESE DAYS, HAS A TRIGGER TO IT , BUT I DO NOT SEE ITS APPLICATION IN THIS
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PARTICULAR SENTENCE . I WOULD LOVE TO THINK THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO HAVE A VARIETY OF PEOPLE , SKILL SETS, AND AGE RANGES , GENDERS , AND SO FORTH. I DO NOT KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANY SUGGESTION THAT THAT SENTENCE IMPLIES EMPLOYMENT ELIGIBILITY, RATHER THAN SIMPLY DESCRIBING A RICH AND VARIEDPERSONNEL. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, BOB.
I DID NOT TAKE THIS READING AS -- SIMPLY APPLY TO RACE , I
THINK A BROADER APPLICATION. >> I WANTED TO BE FOCUSED ON SKILL SETS AND MERIT. NOT NECESSARILY THE DIVERSITY OF THE
APPLICANT POOL . >> I WILL REMIND YOU THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR HIRING GUIDES AND PRACTICES, THIS IS A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATING THE BIG PICTURE.
>> IF PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, SO BE IT .
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I THINK HE MAKES A VALID
POINT. I CHANGED MY MIND. >> WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE . ALL IN FAVOR OF MAKING
THIS CHANGE PLEASE SAY AYE. >> WHAT CHANGE?
>> STRIKING THE WORD "DIVERSITY." PLEASE, SAY "AYE."
>> ALL OPPOSED? >> COULD YOU STATE THE VOTE
AGAIN? >> ALL IN FAVOR OF MAKING THIS CHANGE WHERE WE STRIKE DIVERSITY AND MAKE IT MERIT ?
>> STRIKING THE ENTIRE SENTENCE .
>> ALL IN FAVOR OF STRIKING THIS ENTIRE SENTENCE PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> TWO. ALL OPPOSED, PLEASE SAY NAY.
>> NAY. >> ANYTHING ELSE? DO WE NEED TO
DO A VOICE VOTE ? >> YOU ARE ON THE MAIN MOTION AND YOU ADMITTED IT AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING TO REMOVE CHANGES 5 AND 6, YOU ADMITTED, PER THE REQUEST OF COUNCILPERSON DAWSON, WITH GROSS CHANGE 7 AND 3, THOSE ARE INCLUSIVE NOW OF WHAT YOU ARE CONSIDERED IN A FINAL MOTION AND YOU ARE READY AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY FINE TO DO A VOICE VOTE UNLESS WE CANNOT
DISCERN WHERE YOU ARE. >> ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THESE UPDATES TO THE COMP PLAN 2040 AS AMENDED PLEASE SAY AYE.
[12. CITIZENS' OPEN FORUM.]
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THE ITEM
CARRIES. >> THOSE ARE THE ONLY ITEMS.
>> OPEN FORUM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, WE ASK YOU ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. WHO WILL BE FIRST? YES, MA'AM?
NOT START UNTIL YOU GET YOUR. >> 1960 LEE ROAD, 137. I WORK FOR PEOPLE ENGAGED IN RECOVERY, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WITH LONG-TERM RECOVERY. I CAN STAND THERE ALL DAY AND TELL YOU MY STORY BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE STORY OF SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN DOWN THE ROAD OF ADDICTION IS. I AM NOT HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS THE BOARD AT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. ANYBODY TRYING TO FIND HELP FROM SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER FACES MANY BARRIERS . ESPECIALLY IN THIS COMMUNITY . THREE YEARS AGO, THE ONLY WAY I COULD GET TO TREATMENT WAS LIKE GETTING ARRESTED AND BEGGING A JUDGE TO LET ME GO. TODAY , I STAND BEFORE YOU WORKING AS AN ADVOCATE FOR THOSE THAT ARE TRYING TO FIND A PATHWAY. I WANTED TO LET THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE ARE HERE TO HELP IN ANY WAY WHEN IT COMES TO SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER IN OUR COMMUNITY , BRING AWARENESS, AND TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT IS NOT A MORAL FAILING BUT A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THANK YOU .
>> THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD AND ALL THE BEST. WHO WILL BE
NEXT? >> ROBERT WELCOMES, AUBURN,
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ALABAMA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, TODAY WAS TAX DAY, I JUST GOT THROUGH ABOUT TWO HOURS BEFORE I CAME HERE. I WANT TO THANK THE STR5 BECAUSE I HAD TO PAY LESS TAXES. TAYLOR , GRISWOLD , PARSONS , DAWSON , AND THE MAYOR. ALLOW ME TO -- STR MEMBERS A STATICALLY ARE GLAD THAT 3288 HAS PAVED THE WAY FOR THE DOWNTOWN HOTELS, BUILT ON THE STREET, THE OWNER ONLY HAS SIX OR SEVEN HOTELS IN THE AREA, ANOTHER SIX OR SEVEN IN COLUMBUS AND OTHER AREAS. WITH THE ANDRUS HOTEL , AJ CAPITAL AT $5.3 BILLION, AND THE FLAGSHIP HILTON. THE CITY MANAGER SAYS SHE IS A STICKLER FOR VEHICLE PURCHASES. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET A BREAKOUT WITH 70 VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT. BECAUSE , I BELIEVE DATA IS IMPORTANT, DATA SHOULD HAVE AN IMPORTANT WITH SHORT-TERM RENTAL . THERE WAS NO DATA, NO DATA ON THE VEHICLES , GRISWOLD CONTINUOUSLY IS THE ONLY ONE THAT POSE FOR IT BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY DATA . YOU CANNOT MAKE ANY DECISIONS.THE BOBCAT THAT WAS APPROVED. IT WAS APPROVED BECAUSE YOU WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE RENTING ONE. NOTHING HAPPENED WITH IT. I THINK YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU NEED CERTAIN THINGS . IF YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION. IF NOT , LET THE CITY MANAGER CONTINUE. ALSO, THE CITY COUNCIL DEALING WITH RACES, I BELIEVE YOU NEED RAISES, I DID TWO POLLS NEXT DOOR, 18 WEEKS AGO, 60% SAID YOU SHOULD GET $12,000 PER YEAR AND 50% OF THE PEOPLE SAID $80,000, 20% SAID $24,000 PER YEAR. 50% SAID STAY AT $7200 .
TWO WEEKS AGO, THAT CHANGED . 33% SAID 12,000 TO $80,000 PER YEAR. 31% , WHICH I BELIEVE, SAID FULL-TIME COUNCILMEMBERS.
WE NEED A FULL-TIME COUNCILMEMBERS BECAUSE WE HAVE A CITY THAT IS GROWING VERY FAST AND WE HAVE A TWO SYSTEM , A MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND THE COUNCIL, AND YOU ARE IN CHARGE.
I BELIEVE YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO THOSE THINGS. THAT IS ALL.
APPRECIATE IT . >> WHO WILL BE NEXT?
>> DEBORAH. TODAY, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS IS WHAT THE CITY IS APPROVED, A NEW LIBRARY LOGO. T-SHIRTS ARE AVAILABLE TODAY . I GOT ONE OF THE FIRST ONES . HOPEFULLY, WE WILL SEE KIDS AND ADULTS AROUND TOWN WITH ALL THIS ADVERTISEMENT , T-SHIRTS, TWO WEEKS TO GET LOGIN FOR THIS . I WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE SHIRT WAS LOOKING LIKE AN THEY WORKED HARD AND GETTING IT APPROVED . I ALSO WANT TO CELEBRATE THAT TOMORROW THE PICKEBALLS COURTS OPEN UP, THE FIRST BATCH, PEOPLE WILL BE THERE, AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING I CANNOT PLAY YET AND I WILL NOT GO BECAUSE I WANT TO. I WANT US TO CELEBRATE THAT. I ALSO GOT A HOLD OF ONE OF THE SUMMER PROGRAMS, FIRES FOR PARKS AND REC, THEY HAVE STUFF ON THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. I WAS EXCITED TO LEARN THEY HAVE APPROVED THE USE OF SILVER SNEAKERS BOTH AS PROVIDING MEMBERSHIPS THAT ARE FREE TO THE ELDERLY PUBLIC WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THAT. A LITTLE EXPLANATION TO YOU IN CASE YOU WERE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. THE INSURANCE COMPANIES , MEDICARE IN GENERAL, HAS DECIDED IT IS GOOD FOR ALL PEOPLE TO KEEP
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ACTIVE. THEY COST THEM LESS IN THE LONG RUN IF THEY PAY FOR US TO GET OUT AND DO THINGS . RECREATION CENTERS ARE A GOOD PLACE TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE DEVELOPED A THINK SILVER SNEAKERS, NOW, ALL OF US ON MEDICARE, THAT A FORMER CITY EMPLOYEES, SHERIFFS , POLICE OFFICERS , FIRE DEPARTMENT, UNIVERSITY , SCHOOL, ANY PUBLIC EMPLOYEES WHICH AUBURN HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT. ALL OF THOSE WHO QUALIFIED TO GET MEMBERSHIPS TO THE FACILITIES FOR ZERO COST . THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE CITY DOES NOT GIVE MONEY. IF PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING , HOW CAN THESE PEOPLE GET IT FOR FREE , THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT PAPERWORK WITH PARKS AND REC TO FILE WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES WHO THEN PAY FOR IT. I WANTED YOU TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN CASE YOU HEAR FROM PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. LET'S CELEBRATEPICKLEBALL. >> LET'S DO IT. WHO WILL BE NEXT? WE WILL CLOSE THIS PART OF OUR MEETING . ANYONE ON COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ? OKAY . IS THERE A MOVE TO ADJOURN?
>>
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.