Aug 05, 2025 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER. ]

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>>> WE'LL CALL TO ORDER TONIGHT'S AUBURN CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR AUGUST 5TH, 2025. WELCOME THOS AND WE ALSO WELCOME THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING ON WANI AND THEY'RE WATCHING THROUGH OUR STREAMING SERVICES. WITH THE ROLL CALL,

DAVID? ADAMS? >> HERE.

>> COBLENTZ? >> HERE.

>> DAWSON? >> HERE.

>> PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF

SILENCE? >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> PLEASE BE SEATED. THIS IS OUR

[4. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS. ]

>> PROUD TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR AUGUST EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH. IT IS MY HONOR TO NOMINATE DUSTIN ROGERS AS EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR AUGUST 2025. DUSTIN JOINED THE WATERSHED DIVISION IN FEBRUARY 2020 AS A STORMWATER COORDINATOR. DUSTIN'S DUTIES INCLUDE IMPLEMENTING THE CITY'S EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL INSPECTION AND ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM AND PERFORMING STORMWATER POST CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS AND PERFORMING STORMWATER OUTFALL INSPECTIONS. WHICH ARE ALL COMPONENTS OF THE CITY'S PHASE 2 MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER SYSTEM PROGRAM. RECENTLY DUSTIN TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO RESEARCH UTILITY TERRAIN VEHICLES TO DETERMINE WHICH WOULD HELP PERFORM INSPECTIONS MORE EFFICIENTLY ON LARGER CONSTRUCTION SITES AND DUSTIN ALSO MAINTAINED HIS UAS REMOTE DRONE PILOT LICENSE WHICH ENABLES THE USE OF DRONES FOR INSPECTIONS. BOTH THE UTV AND THE UAS REMAIN DRONE PILOT AND LICENSE POSITIVELY EXPAND THE EFFECTIVENESS AND EFFICIENCY OF THE CITY'S CONSTRUCTION SITE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL INSPECTIONS. OUTSIDE OF NORMAL WORKING HOURS, DUSTIN HELPED THE WALT WATERSHED'S MANAGER. DUSTIN ORGANIZES AND PARTICIPATES IN STREAM CLEAN-UPS LIKE THE ONE ON THE MILL CREEK THAT TOOK PLACE LAST MAY. DUSTIN PROMOTES TEAM UNITY BY WORKING WITH CO-WORKERS AND OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO COMPLETE TASKS. SUCH AS PILOTING THE DRONE FOR PICTURES OF THE WATER BOARD'S WATER TANKS AND LAKE OGLE TREESINKHOLES. HE DOESN'T HESITATE TO INVESTIGATE A COMPLAINT FROM A CITIZEN AND HE PROVIDES FRIENDLY AND PROFESSIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE WITH DISTINCTION. FOR THESE REASONS AND MANY OTHERS I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE DUSTIN ROGERS AS THE AUGUST EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.

>> CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. WE VALUE EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF AUBURN AND CONGRATULATIONS TO DUSTIN FOR BEING OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH. UNDER ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT, I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE UNITED WAY WHO HAD AN OUTSTANDING KICKOFF LAST WEEK. THE FOOD BANK WAS A LITTLE TOASTY BUT THERE WAS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THERE PACKING MEALS FOR THOSE IN NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT WAS GREAT WAY TO KICK OFF THE UNITED WAY'S FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES FOR THE YEAR. AND I CAN ASK ALL OF THE CITIZENS TO CONSIDER MAKING A CONTRIBUTION TO THE UNITED WAY. THEY FILL IN THE GAPS FOR MANY PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS WHO NEED THEIR

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ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? >> ENGLISH CHANNEL WIDER THAN

SWAMP CREEK? >> JUST A LITTLE BIT.

] >> THAT WAS HARD.

>> YEAH. IT WASN'T EASY. >> OKAY. SURE.

>> ONE THING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE AUBURN PUBLIC LIBRARY IS HOSTING THE WILLIAM BARTRON TRAVELING EXHIBIT AND I HAVE TO ADMIT I DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT WILLIAM BARTRON. I DID REMEMBER THERE WAS A TRAIL BUT I COULDN'T HAVE TOLD YOU TWO THINGS ABOUT IT. HOWEVER, I DID DO A LITTLE READING WERE TONIGHT. HE CAME THROUGH NOT SURPRISING ALABAMA AND HE WENT THROUGH RUSSELL COUNTY AND MACON COUNTY AND SKIRTED LEE COUNTY BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE YET. AND HE WENT ON TO MONTGOMERY BEFORE THERE WAS A MONTGOMERY. AND WHAT HE DID WAS HE WAS NATURALIST. HE WASN'T LIKE A LEWIS AND CLARK GUY. BUT WHAT REALLY GOT MY ATTENTION IS THE YEAR. IT WAS 1775. AND 1776. I THOUGHT HOLY COW. THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY IN 1776. SO COME SEE THIS EXHIBIT. IT STARTED YESTERDAY AND IT WILL RUN 30 DAYS UNTIL THIS TIME NEXT MONTH. AND HEAR WHAT YOUR LIBRARY EXPERTS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS. THEY'LL PROBABLY DO A LOT BETTER JOB THAN I DID. THANK YOU.

[5. AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS]

>> YEAH. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. >>> AUBURN UNIVERSITY

COMMUNICATIONS. >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS -- JACK MCMURRAY. I'M VERY EXCITE. LOOKING BACK TO THE END OF JULY OUR EXEC TEAM HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRAVEL TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS OUT IN AUSTIN AND MEET WITH TEAR COUNTERPARTS FROM EVERY SING SEC UNIVERSITY TO WORK ON NEW IDEAS AND LEARN HOW TO DO OUR JOBS BETTER ON CAMPUS. LOOKING AHEAD SATURDAY, WE WILL HAVE OUR COMMENCEMENT FOR OUR SUMMER GRADUATES AND ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 16TH, WE WILL HAVE OUR BID DAY FOR 2,349 POTENTIAL NEW MEMBER GOING THROUGH SORORITY RUSH. RECORD-BREAKING NUMBER. ST. PAUL NESTER STARTS MONDAY, AUGUST 18TH AND THAT WILL BE KICKED OFF WHAT THE FIRST 56 DAYS WHICH IS DAYS PACKED FULL OF EVENTS FOR NEW STUDENTS AND RETURNING STUDENTS ALIKE. THANK YOU ALL AND WAR EAGLE.

>> GLAD TO HAVE YOU ALL BACK. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, IT WILL BE CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. NOW IS YOUR TIME TO COME FORWARD. UNDER RESOLUTIONS WE DO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ATTACHED TO THOSE DECISIONS RELATED TO THOSE FOUR VACATIONS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT MOMENT. BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL MOVE AHEAD

[7. CITY MANAGER’S COMMUNICATIONS.]

>> AS MENTIONED DURING COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WE HAVE TWO SUBSTITUTE PAGES FOR SOME CONTRACTS INCLUDED IN ITEM AE 3.

[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA. (Part 1 of 2)]

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WITH THAT ITEM INDIVIDUALLY? >> YES, I'D LIKE TO REMOVE 8

ECHO ONE. AE1 PLEASE. >> AE1. ALL RIGHT.

>> AE6. >> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. 8E1.

[8.e.1. AU Tigers Properties I, LLC. The RISE Auburn (aka The Everly) infrastructure development agreement.]

>> AUTHORIZES AN INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH AU TIGERS' PROPERTIES 1 LLC FOR THE RISE OF -- THE RISE AUBURN PRIVATE DORMITORY OR DEVELOPMENT APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT TO BE LOCATE AT 712 WEST GLEN AVENUE.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MR. GRISWOLD?

>> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS I HAVE ALREADY ASKED THE CITY MANAGER SOME OF THOSE BUT WANT TO EXPAND THEM A LITTLE BIT. THE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIES IT WILL BE MINIMUM ENCROACHMENT ON WEST GLEN AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY. WHAT IS -- WHAT IS MINIMAL ENCROACHMENT AND HOW LONG WILL THAT BE IN EFFECT?

>> GREAT QUESTION. I'LL HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SCOTT CUMMINGS ANSWER.

>> SO THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE STAGES OF ENCROACHMENT ON THERE.

WE'LL START WITH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH OFF OF PAVEMENT-TYPE WORK BUT IT'D BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY SO IT IS TECHNICALLY IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. FOR A BULK OF THE PROJECT, WE HAVE NEGOTIATED AN OPTION WITH THEM TO TAKE NOT A FULL LANE WIDTH. BUT A PARTIAL LANE WIDTH IN ORDER TO UTILIZE OFF PAVEMENT RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL AS PAVEMENT RIGHT OF WAY.

AND PURPOSE FOR THAT IS TO ALLOW THE TRUCKS TO BASICALLY VEER OFF THE ROAD. LOAD UNLOAD EQUIPMENT MATERIALS FROM THOSE TRUCKS AND THEN PULL BACK ON TO THE ROAD IN A MORE EASY FASHION. ONLY OTHER OPTION FOR THEM WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO BACK IN AND PULL IN. WHICH WOULD TAKE MUCH LONGER AND BE MORE INTRUSIVE ON

TRAFFIC. >> THIS MAINTAINS TWO WAY

TRAFFIC? >> YES, THERE WILL BE TWO -- SO THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT. TOWARD THE END OF THE PROJECT THEY'LL TAPER THAT BACK AND WE'LL REGAIN THE FULL LANE WIDTHS FOR THE BALANCE OF THE PROJECT.

>> OKAY. AND THAT SECTION OF GLEN IS FREQUENTLY CONGESTED BASED ON PARKING ON THE SIDES OF THE STREETS. IS THERE A PLAN TO LIMIT THAT OR CHANGE THAT DURING THE COURSE OF THIS --

CONSTRUCTION? >> DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, THOSE -- PARKING LANES WILL BE REMOVED AND WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF REEVALUATING SOME OF THOSE PARKING LANES AND SOME OF THEM NEED TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE OF PROXIMITY TO ENTRANCES AND THINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE FURTHER I VALUATING THOSE FOR THE WHOLE. LIKELY A LOT OF THE ON STREET PARKING IN THIS PARTICULAR DURATION MAY NOT RETURN.

>> THAT'S BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF VEHICLE, PEDESTRIAN VEHICLE, BICYCLE VEHICLE, TRANSIT BUS COLLISIONS DUE TO LACK OF SIGHT DISTANCE OF THE EDGE OF DRIVEWAYS TO EXISTING PROJECTS. SO WHAT HE'S SAYING IS ULTIMATELY SOME OF THIS ON STREET PARKING IS GOING TO GO AWAY DURING THIS PROJECT AND WE WILL HAD BEEN TO YOU WITH A PLAN WHERE WE MAY RECOMMEND THAT A LOT OF IT NOT RETURN FOR SAFETY REASONS.

>> BUT THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT -- SHORT TERM IMPACT ON THE -- THAT CURRENTLY USES THOSE SPACES.

>> IT WOULD BE. YES. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BUT THERE'S AN EXISTING CURB CUT SHOWN ON THE CHART FROM RAILROAD ROAD TO THE BACKSIDE OF THIS PROPERTY AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE -- WILL NOT BE USE ANYMORE. IS THAT RIGHT? NABBING SAYS FROM RAILROAD?

>> FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT TO THE RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY. PERIOD.

>> FOR VEHICLES. >> OKAY. AND SINCE IT -- DOES ABUT RAILROAD ROAD, WHAT'S THE REASON THAT WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO RAILROAD ROAD?

>> RAILROAD AVENUE IS TECHNICALLY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THE RAILROAD'S RIGHT OF WAY. AND YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE RAILROAD IN ORDER TO DO ANY KIND OF WORK WITHIN THE RIGHT AFTER WAY AND THEY REACHED OUT TO THEM AT OUR REQUEST AND WERE DENIED MAKING ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROAD. OUGHLYING REALLY DO WORK ON MAINTAINING IS THE WATER. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO MAINTAIN THE WATER AND SEWER ON THE RIGHT

OF WAY. BUT NOTHING ELSE. >> THIS WAS NEWS TO US WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A NEW THING WITH THE RAILROAD. SO THIS HAS NOT BEEN UNCOMMON DOWN THE STREET. WE'VE HAD OTHER PEOPLE SUCCEED BUT THE RAILROAD CHANGED THEIR VIEW ON WHAT THEY WANT DONE ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG RAILROAD AVENUE AND WHAT THEY DON'T AND THIS IS A NEW CHANGE FOR US.

>> NO ACCESS FROM RAILROAD. WE STILL REQUIRE A SIDEWALK?

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>> MORE FOR EMERGENCY EGRESS OF THE EASES RESIDENTS. NOT ACTUALLY ON RAILROAD AVENUE BUT IT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE

DEVELOPMENT. >> THEN -- IN THE PAST, WE HAVE MAINTAINED RESURFACED RAILROAD ROAD OR AVENUE I'M NOT SURE WHICH. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY OURS A WE ANTICIPATE

CONTINUING TO DO THAT? >> AT THIS POINT, WE -- WOULD DO YOU KNOW, WE MAY DO THAT IF GIVEN PERMISSION BY THE RAILROAD TO DO THAT. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THEM FOR THAT REQUEST. YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WE ARE YOU KNOW, WE -- HAVE BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION FROM THE RAILROAD THAT THAT IS THEIR RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN YOU KNOW, IT'S THEIR PROPERTY. SO YEAH. WE'RE -- WE WOULD ONLY HAVE BE ABLE TO DO ANY KIND OF MAINTENANCE BY APPROVAL FROM

THEM. >> THIS IS AN ONGOING DISCUSSION WITH THE RAILROAD. AGAIN NEW BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT.

COUNCILMAN GRISWOLD IS CORRECT. WE HAVE RESURFACED IT IN THE PAST. WE HAD PERMISSION FROM SOMEBODY AT THE RAILROAD. THEY WENT TO THEM BUT THERE'S A CHANGE IN HOW THEY VIEW THIS AT THE UPPER MANAGEMENT LEVEL WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH. AND WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM AS WELL BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO'S ENFORCING PARKING ON RAILROAD AVENUE. WE'RE NOT ENFORCING ON STREET PARKING ON RAILROAD AVENUE THAT WILL BE UP TO THE RAILROAD.

>> ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. >> SO IT'S A CHANGE, WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT LONG-TERM RESIDENTS THAT ABUT RAILROAD AVENUE AND WE HAVE NO INDICATION THE RAILROAD IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING THAT IMPACTS THEM DIRECTLY. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THIS IS A FAIRLY NEW DIALOGUE THAT'S GOING ON. AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT BUT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

BUT THAT'S WHY A LOT OF CHANGES THAT MAY SEEM NOT VERY INTUITIVE TO YOU GUYS ABOUT WHY THINGS ARE NOT HAPPENING. THIS IS A TOTAL CHANGE OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, HAS THE DEVELOPER BEEN WORKING WITH THE RAILROAD TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY?

>> YES. THEY HAVE. THEY WERE WELL AWAY OF IT AND THEY CONTACTED RAILROAD AND THAT'S WHAT INITIALLY LED TO SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER SUBJECT. THE TRAFFIC STUDY -- TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY SHOWS THAT THERE'LL BE NECESSARY TO DO RETIMING OF THE LIGHTS AT DONAHUE AND GLEN. DID THAT STUDY NOT SHOW ANY IMPACT TO THE INTERSECTION OF HEMLOCK

AND GLEN? >> IT LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTION OF HEMLOCK AND GLEN BUT ALL LEVELS OF SERVICE ARE ADEQUATE AT THAT INTERSECTION, BOTH PRE-AND POST CONSTRUCTION.

>> WE'RE ADDING HOW MANY BEDROOMS?

>> 718. >> 718 FOLKS GOING TO GO THERE TO CAMPUS AND THERE'S NO IMPACT ON THAT INTERSECTION?

>> THERE'S SUFFICIENT CAPACITY AT THAT INTERSECTION TO HANDLE WHAT IS COMING THERE. THERE IS IMPACT.

>> BASED ON THE CRITERIA SET TO THE IT'S NOT MAKING A LEVEL OF SERVICE KICK A THRESHOLD TO CAUSE THEM TO HAVE TO CHANGE

ANYTHING ABOUT IT. >> RIGHT. SO --

>> THAT PROJECTS CURRENT PLUS A FUTURE CONDITION.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> FOUR WAY STOP AT THAT

INTERSECTION NOW. >> IT IS TWO WAY STOP RIGHT NOW.

>> YEAH. GLEN AVENUE HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY.

>> CORRECT. >> OKAY. I NOTICED THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO CONTINUE PAVING OR RESURFACING BEYOND HEMLOCK ON GLEN. AND THAT THE CITY WILL PAY FOR THAT RESURFACING SINCE IT'S NOT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THEIR PROJECT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A HISTORY OF DEVELOPERS PAYING FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN OTHER AREAS SUCH AS OLD SANFORD PAYING ALL THE WAY UP TO UNIVERSITY AND DONAHUE. WHY WOULD NOT THE DEVELOPER BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS IMPACT AS WELL? SEEING THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY DIDN'T SHOW SOME IMPACT. BUT NOT SIGNIFICANT APPARENTLY. WHY DON'T WE HAVE THEM PAYING FOR THAT INSTEAD OF

US? >> SO THE -- THEY'RE HAVING TO DO -- THEY'RE DOING THEIR WORK AND THEY'RE WIDENING AND STUFF.

THEY'RE RESTRIPING IS IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY. AND THERE ARE TRANSITION LINKS THEY HAVE TO GO AWAY FROM THEIR PROPERTY TO GET IT BACK TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. WHEN THEY TIED THOSE IN ACCORDING TO STANDARDS, IT WAS VERY NEAR THE HEMLOCK INTERSECTION. FOR SAFETY REASONS WE FELT IT WAS GOOD TO GO BEYOND THE HEMLOCK INTERSECTION ON THE APPROACH TO IT TO MAKE THOSE TRANSITIONS AND BECAUSE WE WANTED THAT FOR EXTRA SAFETY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PAYING FOR IT.

>> HE'S ASKING THOUGH IN SCOTT MAY NEED TO SPEAK TO THIS FROM THE OLD SANFORD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. COMPARING AND CONTRASTING THE TWO IS -- OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS OFTEN WITH

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DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. AND OLD SANFORD IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF PROJECT THAT DID A LOT OF LEGWORK EARLY ON. DID THEIR TRAFFIC STUDIES AND CAME UP WITH THAT DATA TO COME AND ACTUALLY -- ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE MAKING WERE PROJECTS -- OR NEEDS THAT THEY BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AS FAR AS IMPACTS ON THEIR TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, AS BRANDY MENTIONED, THE IMPROVEMENTS AT HEMLOCK WERE NOT NECESSARY AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC STUDY. THERE WASN'T ANY ADVERSE IMPACT BUT THE WORK BEING PERFORMED BEYOND THE INTERSECTION OF HIGH PRESSURE HEMLEK AND GLEN IS MORE FOR OUR

IMPROVEMENT. >> THEY ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AT THE DONAHUE INTERSECTION.

>> IN ADDITION TO THE RETIMING. >> THEY'RE DOING SOME RESTRIPING TO LENGTHEN THE LEFT AND -- TURN LANE STORAGE AND STACKING AT THE GLEN AND DONAHUE INTERSECTION FOR THE EASTBOUND

LEG. >> AND IS THAT COMING THROUGH IN THEIR REGULAR DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS AS OPPOSED TO THE

DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> OKAY. CHANGE IN TOPICS AGAIN. LET'S SEE HERE. WHOOPS. OH. THE -- THE SEWER LINE. SO I ONCE THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO IMPROVE THAT SEWER LINE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THIS PROJECT HAPPENED OR

NOT. >> THE WATER LINE?

>> YEAH. >> CORRECT AND ERIC CAN SPEAK TO IT. WE'VE BEEN METHODICALLY WORKING ON A PROJECT THERE. GO

AHEAD, ERIC. >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE STARTED THAT PROJECT SEVERAL YEARS AGO. THE FIRST PHASE WENT FROM HEMLOCK TO BIRD AND THIS IS PART OF A MASTER PLAN FOR US. AS THE SIX INCH MAIN GOING DOWN GLEN AND IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A ONE WAY FEED IT WOULD STRUGGLE TO MEET FIRE PROTECTION AND THAT WAS IN OUR LONG-RANGE GOALS WAY BEFORE THIS PROJECT CAME ON

BOARD. >> SOMETHING WE'D BE DOING

ANYWAY. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> WHAT ABOUT TIMING? WOULD WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS IN THE

COURSE OF THIS CONSTRUCTION? >> WE MIGHT HAVE WAITED.

>> THAT'S GOING TO FURTHER MESS UP THE ROAD. GLEN. RIGHT?

>> I'M SORRY? >> GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION, I'M SORRY. IS THIS GOING TO BE HAPPENING CONCURRENT

WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT? >> IT'S ALREADY DONE. WE'VE

ALREADY PUT IT IN. >> OKAY. THE WHOLE WATER MAIN.

>> WE STILL HAVE TO GO FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE ARISE TO DONAHUE AND WE'LL DO THAT IN A FUTURE PHASE BUT WE WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE DISRUPTION THAT'S ABOUT TO START AND GO AHEAD AND GET IN NOW SO THEY CAN PAVE IT FOR US.

>> YOU ARE GOING TO GET IN NOW VERSUS WHEN WERE YOU GOING TO

GET IN? >> PROBABLY IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. WE WERE GOING TO DO IT BUT WE WENT AID AND BROKE IT INTO PHASES AND DID THIS PHASE NOW AND WE'LL DO ANOTHER PHASE

LATER. >> SO WE ACCELERATED SOMETHING

TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN NOW? >> WATER BOD --

>> TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY IS WHAT IT WAS.

>> IT'S NOT UNCOMMON IF WE WERE -- SOMEBODY IS GOING TO TEAR UP ROAD, WE TRY -- DESPITE WHAT PEOPLE THINK WE TRY TO LIMIT THE PAINPOINTS TO ONE TIME FRAME. WE DON'T ALWAYS SUCCEED IN THAT.

SOMETIMES WE JUST FINISH A ROAD AND SOMETHING HAPPENS. BUT THE GOAL HERE IS TO DO THAT TO SAY THAT IT'S SPED UP A LITTLE BIT PROBABLY IS. BUT WE DO THIS IN PARTNERSHIP ON THE REGULAR. WE HAVE LONG-RANGE INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS AND WHEN A PROJECT'S ON GOING, WE USUALLY DO. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BREAKING

THE WATER BOARD'S BANK ON THIS. >> OH NO. IT'S SIMILAR TO GAY STREET WHENPUBLIX CAME IN. TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PROJECTS TO NOT DOUBLE THE DISRUPTION AND WE ALSO DON'T KEEP THE ROAD TORE UP FOR A LONG TIME AND IT GETS PAVED QUICKLY THEREAFTER.

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FURTHER DISRUPTION ONCE THE PROJECT IS DONE TO DO THE STUFF FROM THE RISE UP TO DONAHUE.

>> AT SOME POINT YES AND WE TRY TO TIME IT WITH OTHER PROJECTS

WHEN POSSIBLE. SO. >> OKAY.

>> THAT WATER MAIN WAS PUT IN IN THE '50S.

>> I'M NOT DEBATING WE NEED A NEW WAITER MAIN. JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE DISRUPTION OF TRAFFIC ON GLEN. OKAY. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE DEVELOPER NEEDS US TO COME TO SOME AGREEMENT WITH HIM. I JUST WOULD ASK THAT IF THERE'S POSSIBLE. IS THERE MORE FAVORABLE TERMS WE CAN EXPECT ON ANY ASPECT OF THIS?

>> WE CAN ALWAYS CERTAINLY ASK. THAT'S AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL. IF YOU GUYS DECIDE YOU WANT TO POSTPONE THIS AND YOU HAVE A FEW HOT POINTS AND YOU WANT US TO GO BACK AND ASK THE DEVELOPER WECERTAINLY WILL. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL PREVAIL BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS IF YOU HAVE DIRECTION AND THE MAJORITY OR YOU WANT US THE INQUIRE ABOUT SOMETHING FURTHER,

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DIFFERENT BUT WE CAN ALWAYS ASK. >> ANY TIMELINES THAT WE'RE RUN

UP AGAINST HERE ON THIS? >> WE'RE NOT. IT WOULD BE UP TO THEM AS FAR AS THEIR TIMING GOES TO HAVE THIS PROJECT OPEN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE '28 I GUESS -- SCHOOL YEAR. '27.

>> OR '28. >> IS THE APPLICANT HERE? DO WE KNOW? REPRESENTATIVE? MAY I ASK A QUESTION? THANK YOU. IS THERE A TIMELINE THAT YOU ARE WORKING TOWARDS? WOULD DELAY FOR FURTHER

-- >> YEAH, MINE.

>> CONVERSATIONS? >> YEAH, I MEAN, IT KIND OF OUTLINES WHAT YOU ARE WANTING OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU ARE KIND OF ASKING FOR. SOME OF THE STUFF IN REGARDS TO LIKE THE WATER LINE QUESTION, THE WATER LINE IS BEING UPGRADED BUT WE'RE COMING BACK AND REPAVING THE WHOLE ROAD TO MAKE IT ONE SEAMLESS ROAD PAVING PROJECT. SO THAT WE DIDN'T COME BACK AND PUT A NEW WEARING SURFACE ON THE ENTIRE ROAD AND THEN WATER BOARD COME BACK AND PATCH AND CUT IT AND PATCH IT UP. SO -- IN REGARDS TO TIMING, AND IN REGARDS TO TIMING, THE CITY'S USING OUR PROJECT TO GET A BETTER PAVING JOB FOR THE CITIZENS AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND IN REGARDS TO THE WATER. AND IN REGARDS TO SOME OF THE RESTRIPING STUFF, WE WERE RESTRIPING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF OVERDRIVE P ON THAT SECTION OF ROAD. ON STREET PARKING AND IT HAS LESS THAN SUFFICIENT WIDTH FOR TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC. THERE'S CONSTANT REPORTING OF MIRRORS ON THE SIDE OF CARS BEING HIT ON PARKED CARS AND DRIVING CARS. IF YOU MEASURE THAT WIDTH. THOSE LANES ARE 8.5 TO 9 FEET WIDE. A PARKING SPACE IS 9 FEET WIDE AND YOU ARE TRYING TO DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD AT 30 MILES PER HOUR ON POSTED SPEED LIMIT. SO THE ROAD WAS NEVER BUILT TO HAVE ON STREET PARKING AND TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC ON IT. SO WE'RE RESTRIPING IT TO GET SUFFICIENT WIDTHS ON THOSE LANES AND TAKE OFF THAT ON STREET PARKING AND SO THE CITY IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WE'RE DOING IT HERE AND TYING IT ON BOTH ENDS. WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING WHEN WE'RE RESTRIPING THE INTERSECTION. THAT INTERSECTION BACKS SCUP THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR STACKING FOR THE LEFT TURN LANE. WE'RE EXTENDING THE LANES BACK AND PROVIDING SUFFICIENT CAPACITY FOR THAT INTERSECTION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC ON THAT PORTION OF WEST GLEN, THAT PORTION OF WEST GLEN IS NOT TRAVELED VERY MUCH AT ALL. IT'S PRETTY MUCH PRIMARILY STUDENTS IN THAT SECTION. AND PRIMARILY THE IMPACT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS PEDESTRIANS WALKING TO CAMPUS. THERE'S NO WAY FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S A KID WHO'S GOING TO SCHOOL THERE TO DRIVE TO CAMPUS. THE CAMPUS PARKING LOT IS TWO BLOCKS AWAY WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE TO THEN TAKE A BUS INTO CAMPUS. SO LIKE FROM A DRIVING PERSPECTIVE, THE IMPACTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT AS FAR-REACHING AS WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT IF IT WAS IN A SUBURBAN LOCATION AND THEY'RE HAVING TO DRIVE A GREAT DEAL FROM SOUTH COLLEGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> BRET, THEY ARE PICKING UP STUDENTS AND TAKING THEM AROUND.

>> THERE'S A TIGER TRANSIT BUS STOPS. THERE'S ONE ACROSS THE STREET AT THIS LOCATION AS WELL. BUT LIKE -- IN REGARDS TO THE MORE FAVORABLE TURNS AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT ARE YOU WANTING OUT OF IT? I MEAN, WE WERE THE ONES THAT -- YOU KNOW, WE WERE ASKED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY AND WE WERE THE ONES THAT WENT TO THE RAILROAD AND WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE RAILROAD FOR OVER A YEAR NOW. WE WERE TRYING TO INCREASE OR EXTEND THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS OF RAILROAD AVENUE THAT HAPPENED NEXT DOOR AND WE GOT DENIED. WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING. BASICALLY WERE SAYING -- NO ACCESS, NO NOTHING. AND SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THE RAILROAD TO GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING US TO IMPROVE RAILROAD AVENUE AT ALL. AND THEY VERIFIED -- CITY -- WE'VE BEEN HAND-IN-HAND WITH THE CITY ALONG THE WHOLE WAY FOR A YEAR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT WE ARE MAKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE ROAD TO -- FOR TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, WHEN YOU ARE ASKING FOR MORE FAVORABLE TERMS, YOU KNOW, IMPACT IN REGARDS TO THE WATER EXTENSION. THE PROJECT IS PAYING $1.2 MILLION TO THE WATER BOARD FOR THE -- WATER AND SEWER ACCESS FEES. SO YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING DONE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

CLEANING UP A LOT OF THE OLD INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA.

>> WHAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF A MORE FAVING TERM?

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>> PAY FOR THE $11,700 FOR THE RESTRIPING WORK. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HEMLOCK. THERE'S AN EXAMPLE.

>> OKAY. >> WHICH ISN'T -- PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT WHAT -- SO YOU WANT THEM TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT?

>> YEAH. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, BRET.

>> NO PROBLEM. >> BRET, REAL QUICK, IS IT MAY 2028 IS SLATED FOR COMPLETION? IS THAT ACCURATE? I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT SCOTT SENT THAT TO ME AND YEAH, MORE LIKE A

THREE YEAR BUILD? >> YEAH.

>> OKAY. >> BECAUSE IT'S MASSIVE SITE.

>> YEAH. >> OKAY.

>> I MEAN, WE'RE -- STARTING NOW WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO

DELIVER FOR THE FALL OF '27. >> THANK YOU.

>> ARE ANY OTHER MORE FAVORABLE TERMS ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER AS WELL? I DON'T WANT TO -- JUST LEAVE IT OUT THERE.

>> ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS, THE $11,000 FOR THAT REPAVING IS ADDITIONAL SCOPE THE CITY IS ADDING ON. THIS IS LIKE IN REGARDS TO -- IT'S MORE OF AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST ABOVE AND BEYOND REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY'S HAVING. IF THE CITY WOULD JUST REMOVE THAT REQUIREMENT AND WE WOULD TIE IN NORMALLY. IT WOULD MEET CODE AND EVERYTHING YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT IT'S MORE OF BEING ABLE TO EXTEND IF WE'RE REMOVING THE ON STREET PARKING IN FRONT OF THIS, EXTENDING IT DOWN TO PROVIDE THE PROPER CLEARANCE AT HEMLOCK THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY INSTALLED, SO IT'S MORE OF FIXING AN EXISTING CONDITION THAT WAS CREATED SELF-CREATED BY THE CITY. IN REGARDS TO NOW WE'RE TYING IT IN AND THEY'RE FIXING IT. SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, LOOK, $11,000 ISN'T GOING TO BREAK THE BANK. BUT THE OTHER PART OF THAT TOO IS THIS IS ADDITIONAL SCOPE THAT STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THEY FELT LIKE WOULD MAKE THE PROJECT BETTER FOR THE CITIZENS.

AND SO THEY WERE WILLING TO -- WE'RE DOING ALL THIS OTHER WORK ASK AND THEY WERE WILLING TO YOU KNOW, THEY ASKED US TO DO THAT AS PART OF THAT THEY WOULD JUST REIMBURSE US. FOR THEM TO MOBILIZE AND DO THAT MUCH WORK, IT'D COST YOU GUYS TWICE AS MUCH. I MEAN, I WANT TO JUST MAKE THAT CLEAR. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S ADDITIONAL SCOPE THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE PROJECT. THIS IS MORE OF TRYING TO BLEND INTO THE IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR, YOU KNOW, THE -- THE CITY'S CONNECTION IN THE

FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. IS THAT HOW THE

STAFF -- >> IT THE AND TO COUNCILMAN GRISWOLD'S POINT. THE CONCERN IS THAT THE CITIZENS OF AUBURN END UP, YOU KNOW, FOR A THREE YEAR CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, HAVING TO DEAL WITH ASPECTS OF THINGS SO SOME OF THIS IS A LOT OF YOU FROM TIME TO TIME ASK, IS THIS ALL PEOPLE ARE DOING? WE'RE GIVING UP RIGHT OF WAY SPACE AND WE'RE GIVING UP TOWER CRANE SWINGS AND WE'RE GIVING UP WHATEVER AND THIS HAS BEEN A DIALOGUE THAT COUNCIL MAP GRISWOLD HAS HAD WITH ME SAYING YOU DON'T CHARGE FOR THOSE THINGS. THEY'RE DOING A FULL OVERLAY AT TIME AND THEY ARE DOING MORE THAN THAT AND I THINK SOMETIMES FOR OUTBIS, IT'S THEN WHY ARE WE SPENDING $11,000 TO DO SOMETHING? IT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT WHILE THEY ARE MOBILIZED WE TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM HAVING CONTRACTOR OUT THERE TO HIS POINT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BID OR DROP A FULL SPEC ON OR WHATEVER. IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU. YOU ACTUALLY CONTROL WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGROW TO THE AGREEMENT AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE $11,000. DEPENDS ON HOW INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBERS FEEL ABOUT THAT. IN TERMS OF OUR ABILITY TO MAKE SOMEBODY DO IT. WE DON'T THERE THAT ABILITY. IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL SO DESIRES WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO

ASK THEM TO DO SOMETHING. >> ANYONE ELSE FROM THE COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION RELATED TO -- THIS ITEM TONIGHT? RELATED TOT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

>> I CAN FORM MINE AS A QUESTION. LET ME FIRST SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS OF COUNCILMAN GRISWOLD AND OTHERS.

AND THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF THIS. AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE STAFF TO GUIDE THIS PROJECT. BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION I GUESS, IS THIS PROJECT BEING DONE BY RIGHT? AND IF SO, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS COUNCIL AS A BODY IS NOT APPROVING, IT'S NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT, WE'RE SEEKING TO GUIDE THIS PROJECT. AM I CORRECT? SAYING THAT?

>> YOU ARE CORRECT. ON MULTIPLE FRONTS. THIS IS A BY RIGHT PROJECT THAT'S BEEN THROUGH A PROCESS WITH OUR STAFF AND A LENGTHY ONE AS THAT. HE ALSO INDICATED THAT AND IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT'S VERY LARGE PROJECT. SO THE COUNCIL IS

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THE WIDTH OF GLEN AVENUE. ONLY HAVE TO DO THEIR HALF OF THE ROAD AS YOUR MEMO READ. THERE ARE NUANCES AND IT'S VERY CHALLENGING FROM YOUR SEATS IS CITIZENS MIGHT THINK YOU ARE ACTUALLY APPROVING THE PROJECT OF WHICH YOU ARE NOT. THE ZONING ORDINANCE ALREADY CARES FOR THAT AND THIS PART, WEST OF DONAHUE AND EVERYTHING REALLY IN THE URBAN CORE, AND URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD WEST, IS A BY RIGHT PROJECT. AND SO YOU ARE NOT APPROVING ANY OF THAT. IT THE NUANCES OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE TOWER CRANE AGREEMENT THAT YOU ARE APPROVING. AND SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE HAD QUESTIONS JUST ABOUT A VARIETY OF THINGS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THAT WOULD BE NORMAL BECAUSE THE COUNCIL HAS NOT SEEN ANYTHING OR HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS UNTIL YOU HEARD ABOUT IT IN YOUR MEETING ON THURSDAY. SO I ALSO CERTAINLY EXPECT IF YOU NEED SOME TIME TO MARINATE ON SOMETHING I'M NOT TRYING TO SLOW THE PROJECT DOWN BUT IT'S YOUR RIGHT TO SAY I DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS AND HEY I NEED MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND. YOU ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ITS IMPACT TO THE CITY AND I GET THAT. BUT FROM A DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, COUNCILMAN MOREMAN, YOU ARE CORRECT. IT'S A BY RIGHT DEVELOPMENT. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE COUNCIL HAVE A QUESTION?

>> MEGAN, ISN'T THIS -- SUSPECT THIS THE AREA WE WANTED TO DEVELOP THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT?

>> YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I MEAN, THE ZONING ORDINANCE HAS WRITTEN TODAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU IN THE BUDGET ABOUT SOME CHANGE ABOUT THE ZONING ORDINANCE COMING. IS WRITTEN TODAY ABSOLUTELY SAYS THEY SHOULD BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

AND AT A CERTAIN DENSITY AND O ON IN THIS AREA. WE HAVE PLANS AND IT'S ALREADY IN THE CURRENT BUDGET WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO YOU MORE. WE WILL BE REVISING THE ZONING ORDINANCE TREMENDOUSLY COMING UP SO YOU ARE GOING TO GET BITES OF THAT

APPLE OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS. >> ANY GUESS HOW MUCH REVENUES

-- BUILDING COULD BRING IN? >> I DON'T HAVE A GUESS. BUT COUNCILMAN DAWSON TO YOUR POINT IS -- IT WOULD HAVE A LOWER VALUATION NOW AS THE PROPERTY THAT IT IS VERSUS SPENDING AND BRET MAY KNOW WHAT THEIR TOTAL INVESTMENT IS. YOU KNOW,

PROBABLY OVER $100 MILLION. >> $120 MILLION.

>> YEAH, $110 MILLION, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT. SO THAT IT DOES CHANGE VALUATION AND HOWEVER THE CITY AND PEOPLE ARE WELCOME TO BUILD THESE BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY EVEN THOUGH IT DOES INCREASE MONEY FOR SCHOOLS AND PROPERTY TAXES AND SO ON.

THE CITY DOESN'T GO OUT AND RECRUIT THOSE PROJECTS. THEY ARE COMING BY THE SIZE OF OUR MARKET THE GROWTH OF THE UNIVERSITY AND

SO ON. >> RIGHT. AND MY ONLY POINT IS TO BE FAIR TO THEM. THIS IS WHERE WE WANTED THIS TYPE DEVELOPMENT TO GO. YEARS AGO WHEN WE WENT THROUGH --

>> CORRECT. WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE ASKS FOR AND THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE STUDENT CENTRIC DEVELOPMENTS THEY WOULD BE IN THE AREA WALKABLE TO CAMPUS. AND PARTICULARLY THIS AREA LITTLE

BIT FURTHER FROM DOWNTOWN. >> I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCILMAN GRISWOLD IS COMING FROM ON THIS.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> I HAVE GOT A QUESTION. I WANT TO GO BACK TO RAILROAD AVENUE. SO WHEN YOU GOT WITH THE RAILROAD COMPANY, SO THEY DON'T -- THEY ALLOW THE CITY TO PAVE

THE ROAD. >> THEY DID AT A POINT IN TIME.

YES, MA'AM. >> BUT THEY DON'T WANT THE CITY OR ANYONE ELSE, EVEN THE DEVELOPER THE MAINTAIN.

>> NOT WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US AT THE MOMENT. THAT COULD

CHANGE. BUT NOT AT THE MOMENT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE'RE GOING TO BE CONTINUING DISSUASIONS WITH THEM ON SOME THINGS AND I MEAN WE'RE OBVIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF RESIDENTS WHO THAT'S THEIR ONLY ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THEIR HOUSE. AND BEING ABLE TO GET PUBLIC SAFETY AND THINGS IN THERE. THOSE ARE IMPORTANT MATTERS TO US AND WE'RE GOING

TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSIONS. >> SO -- SO MY QUESTION IS, DURING THE DISCUSSIONS, IF THEY DON'T WANT THE DEVELOPER OR THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THEM, ARE THEY PLANNING ON IT? PLANNING ON --

>> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO -- LIKE I SAID THE NUMBER OF ONE FOCUS AT THE MOMENT IS TO PROTECT THE RESIDENT THAT IS ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO RAILROAD K. WE HAVE NO INDICATION THE RAILROAD IS NOT HONORING THAT BUT WE ARE HAVING DIALOGUE WHICH

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SAME WITH AL DOT. THE ALABAMA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DOESN'T REQUIRE TURN LANES OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE CANNOT MAKE THEM DO IT WHEN IT'S NOT OUR RIGHT OF WAY.

>> BUT WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ON IT AND THIS IS THEIR ONLY ACCESS. I THINK THEY WILL BE FINE BUT WE ARE THERE TO PROTECT THAT AS BEST WE CAN.

>> YEAH. BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD BECAUSE SOONER OR LATER GOING TO HAVE SOME WEAR AND

TEAR. SO -- >> THAT'S PART OF THE NEGOTIATION AND I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO EXPECT THE STAFF IF THE CITY IS GOING TO MAINTAIN IT. WE NEED CERTAIN ACCESS FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPMENTS TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC SITUATIONS AND SO ON AND WE WANT IT TO BE NICELY MAINTAINED SO WE AGREE WITH YOU AND UNLESS YOU GUYS TELL ME DIFFICULTLY WE'LL

CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THAT. >> KEEP FIGHTING.

>> YEAH. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANY DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL TO POSTPONE THIS FOR NEXT -- TO THE NEXT MEETING IN AUGUST? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A

[8.e.6. J.A. Smith. Emergency culvert replacement. Annalue Drive. $81,126.30]

SECOND. ANY OPPOSED? >> NAY.

>> ONE NAY. MOTION CARRIES. >>> ALL RIGHT, ITEM AE# AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT FOR THE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT AND REPLACEMENT OF A CULVERT ALONG THE DRIVE THAT'S ALREADY COMPLETE BETWEEN THORP STREET AND CHERRY STREET WITH JASMITH

IN THE AMOUNT OF $81,000. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. MR. ADAMS? >> ALL RIGHT. JUST LIKE TO HAVE STAFF GIVE JUST A BRIEF 30, 45 SECOND EXPLANATION ON WHAT HAPPENED HERE AND -- BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TO COMMEND THE -- HOW QUICKLY IT WAS DONE. AND ALSO HOW WELL IT WAS COMMUNICATED. SO -- THANK STAFF FOR THAT.

>> BEFORE MR. BALLARD SPEAKS, THIS WAS A KNOWN PROBLEM AREA FOR US AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A STUDY UNDER WAY TELLING US THIS WAS BIG PROBLEM THAT NEEDED TO BE FIXED AND SURE ENOUGH IT

NEEDED TO BE FIXED. DAN? >> YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE HAD A CONSULTANT PERFORM AN ASSESSMENT ON THAT CULVERT WHICH CITY COUNCIL HAS ACTUALLY AUTHORIZED THAT SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH BARGE DESIGN SOLUTIONS PREVIOUSLY. AND THEY HAD PERFORM THAT ASSESSMENT BUT THE ASSESSMENT INDICATED THE CULVERT NEEDED RED PAIR OR REPLACEMENT. AND BEFORE THAT WAS ABLE TO OCCUR, WE HAD A REPORT ON SUNDAY, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE IN FRONT OF ME. BUT ON SUNDAY.

>> JULY 5TH. >> JULY 5TH. YES, SIR. WE HAD A REPORT OF DAMAGE TO THE BIKE LANE ON THE ROADWAY. AND UPON ARRIVING ON SCENE, OUR STAFF FOUND A SIZABLE SINKHOLE FORMATION ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT HAD DAMAGED THE EDGE OF ASPHALT. WE RESPONDED BY CONING IT OFF MEADLY AND THEN BACK FILLING TO TEMPORARY STABILIZE IT AND THEN ENGAGE WITH JA SMITH TO DEVELOP A PLAN FOR THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE CULVERT. THERE WERE MULTIPLE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THE ISSUES. BUT THE PREDOMINANT CAUSE -- CAUSE FOR THE FAILURE OF THE CULVERT WAS ITS CORRUGATED METAL CULVERT THAT DETERIORATED SO RUSTED THROUGH. BOTTOM OF THE CULVERT

HAD RUSTED THROUGH COMPLETELY. >> WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM THOSE

TOWARDS -- CULVERTS NOW? >> ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE DON'T INSTALL CORRUGATED METAL CULVERTS UNDERNEATH OUR

ROADWAYS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> WE HAVE BASED ON THE STUDY THERE'LL BE OTHER THINGS COMING OUT THAT WE'LL NEED TO REPAIR AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THIS. BUT WE APPRECIATE ALSO THE PATIENCE OF EVERYBODY IN THE AREA. AND THE PATIENCE OF THE COUNCIL AND EMERGENCY REPAIR PROCEDURES AS ALLOWED IN STATE LAW GIVE US LATITUDE FOR HEALTH SAFETY WELFARE REASONS TO STEP IN AND FIX SOMETHING IN A HURRY. THE CONTRACTOR MOVED QUICKLY AS DID BARGE WAGNER TO WORK WITH US. TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE WHAT NEEDED AND HOPEFULLY YOU DIDN'T HEAR TOO MANY COMPLAINTS

IN YOUR WARD. >> PROBLEM WAS IDENTIFIED ON JULY 5TH AND YOU GUYS STARTEDWORK A WEEK LATER. SO

THAT'S -- >> CORRECT. QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE

ON THAT ONE. ABSOLUTELY. >> WE'RE GRATEFUL WE KNEW ABOUT THIS BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED AND THE UNIVERSITY WENT BACK IN

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SESSION. >> DEFINITELY.

>> THANK YOU MR. BALLARD FOR YOUR STAFF'S HARD WORK. THAT'S

ALL I HAVE. >> ALL YOU GOT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA. (Part 2 of 2)]

>> SO MOVED. >> ALL RIGHT. HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, AIL ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE? THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.

RESOLUTIONS. >> WE HAVE NO ORDINANCES, WE HAVE FOUR RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE PRETTY IDENTICAL AND WE HAVE TO

[10.a.1. Bloomfield Holdings, LLC and 810 MLK, LLC. Gidden Street. Public alley vacation]

REQUIRED. >> THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. SEEING NO ONE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL AND ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN

[10.a 2. Bloomfield Holdings, LLC and 810 MLK, LLC. Gidden Street. Right of way vacation.]

>> ITEM 10A2. THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY LOCATED ON THE STREET AND FURTHER AUTHORIZES THE MAREN CITY MAG MANAGER TO GIVE THE PROPERTY TO BLOOMFIELD LLC. A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND AND WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. AGAIN IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANY EXCEPTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? ALL

[10.a.3. God's House of Prayer Holiness Church, Inc. Gidden Street. Right of way vacation]

>> ITEM 10A3. PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY LOW COATED ON GIDDEN STREET AND FURTHER AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A DEED GIVING THE PROPERTY TO GOD'S HOUSE OF PRAYER HOLINESS IMCORPORATED. A

PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED. >> THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. COME FORBARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

>> IS THERE ANY CONCERN AT ALL ABOUT UTILITIES OR -- ANY OTHER

REASON WHY THIS IS -- >> NO. NO. IT'S NOT NEEDED BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING IN THE AREA AND THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS INCLUDING SOME THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

BUT NO UTILITIES ARE IN THE WAY. >> WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY

UTILITIES. >> THERE ARE UTILITIES THERE AND THERE WILL BE AN EASEMENT AFTER THIS IS ALL FINISHED UP. BUT NO EASEMENTS OR ISSUES FOR ACCESS THROUGH THE AREA. THIS ACTUALLY

-- BEING IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL

[10.a.4. NEOH Holdings, LLC. Public alley vacation.]

>> 10A4. VACATION OF THE PORTION OF THE PUBLIC ALLEY AND FURTHER AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER TO GIVE THEM TO NEH HOLDINGS LLC. A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT, SEEING NO ONE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL IN SAY AYE? ANY OPPOSED? AND THE

[12. CITIZENS' OPEN FORUM.]

MOTION CARRIES. >> MAYOR, THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS OF BUSINESS WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

>> AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE CITIZENS OPEN FORUM AND THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S ON YOUR MIND. WE ASK THAT YOUR COMMENTS BE DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL AND YOU HAVE -- WE'LL ASK THAT YOU COME FORDWOOD DAIS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.

>> WILLIAM FOWLER, 1425 CLOVER BROOK, AUBURN. ALABAMA. THE BIGGEST ISSUE -- I KNOW YOU ALL DID THAT WHOLE THE -- X THING DOWNTOWN. LOVELY. ONLY WATCH SOMEBODY ALMOST GET HIT LAST NIGHT. NO PUN INTENDED. BUT THAT'S NOT THE REASON WHY I'M UP HERE, THE ONE DOWN SOUTH COLLEGE. IT'S IN WARD 6. IT'S -- THE -- WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? CROSSWALK THING. WELL, THAT ONE -- OH SHOOT. WHERE'S THAT INTERSECTION? IT'S THE ONE WITH SONIC IS. WHAT IS THAT ONE? THE INTERSECTION WHERE SONIC AND I THINK IT'S LONG LEAF. THAT THING IS BEING DOWN FOR ALMOST THREE MONTHS NOW MAYBE TWO -- MAYBE TWO CITY TRUCKS PARK THERE

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>> WHEN YOU SAY IT'S BEEN DOWN WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

>> YOU CAN PUSH THE BUTTON AND GO WALK ACROSS THE STREET. BUT NOW YOU HAVE -- THE GUY ON THE LITTLE E-BIKE WITH THE PAST WEEK, FLY RIGHT THROUGH IT AND HE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS -- THE LIGHT -- CROSSED LONG LEAF ALWAYS CHANGED AND HE WENT ACROSS AND ALMOST GOT TAKEN BUT YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY BIGGEST

PROBLEM I HAVE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WHO DO WE HAVE

NEXT? >> VANESSA EKE COOLS, 6134 OVERBROOK LANE. THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL OF YOU AS MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR MY RECENT APPOINTMENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WILL WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T REGRET YOUR DECISION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, VANESSA. LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR SERVICE. WHO

WILL BE NEXT? >> ROBERT WILKINS, 261 DENSITY DRIVE, AUBURNING ALABAMA. GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

VISIONARIES. I PUT A LOT OF HOURS INTO EACH ONE OF MY COUNCIL SPEECHES. TOO MANY TIMES, VARIOUS COUNCILMEMBERS PICK OUT ONLY CERTAIN PARTS OF THE SPEECH SO THEY CAN BE RUDE, ARROGANT, HUMOROUS AND LACK OF CONCERN. EXAMPLE, LAST COUNCIL MEETING ON JULY 22ND, COUNCILMAN MOREMAN STATED HE COULD NOT IMAGINE A FULL-TIME CAREER AS A COUNCILMAN. THE REASON YOU CANNOT IMAGINE IS MAYBE YOU HAVE NOT GONE INTO THE COMMUNITY TO SEE ALL THE REAL HUMAN ISSUES OUT THERE THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT YOUR FULL-TIME FOCUS.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE COUNCILMAN GRISWOLD STATED HE THINKS THERE'S A MOTIVE TO MAKING CITY COUNCIL POSITION FULL-TIME.

FIRST HE DIDN'T LISTEN TO MY EXPLANATION WITHIN THE SPEECH.

SECOND, HE IS RIGHT. I AND OTHER CITIZENS BELIEVE THAT THIS COUNCIL IS ONLY -- CITY MANAGER'S ISSUE DRIVEN WITH NO VISION OR CREATIVITY IN ADDRESSING MANY OF THE NEEDS OF THE AUBURN CITIZEN. THIS COUNCIL ALLOWS OVERPAID CITY MANAGER WITH OVERPAID MANAGEMENT STAFF TO CONTROL YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE AUBURN CITIZENS WHO VOTED FOR YOU. YOU THINK YOUR JOB IS WHAT THE CITY MANAGER AND HER TEAM TELLS YOU IT IS. THE CITY MANAGER TREATS THE COUNCILS LIKE THE WORLD IS FLAT AND YOU CANNOT GO BEYOND THOSE BOUNDARIES THAT SHE HAS SET FOR YOU BY CONTROLLING YOUR AGENDA WHICH IS THE AUBURN CITIZENS AGENDA. EACH WEEK THIS COUNCIL BASES THEIR DECISION AT LEAST NOT T 0% OF THE TIME ON THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THE CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM PUTTS -- PROVIDES AND MAKING YOUR DECISION. BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO THOROUGHLY QUESTION THE DOCUMENTATION.

STATED MANY TIMES BEFORE, BY ME, ARABLESSED WITH EXCESSIVE REF KNEW THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF AUBURN. WE TAKE $2 MILLION OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND WITHOUT BLINKING AN EYE. BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL THOUGHT IT WAS NOT POLITICALLY GOOD TO INCREASE THE SOLID WASTE FUND BY $3 TO $5 PER MONTH AT THAT TIME. BUT THE ISSUE BROUGHT UP LAST WEEK ABOUT HOMELESS CITIZENS NEED TO BE PROPERLY ADDRESSED AND I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE MISDIRECTED $2 MILLION WOULD HAVE SOLVED HOMELESSNESS IN AUBURN. DO YOU KNOW PROCEDURE AND HANDLING HOMELESSNESS? WHAT THE POLICE DOES AND SO FORTH? I STILL HAVE NOT SEEN THIS COUNCIL ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CONCERNING WARD 1 THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST. THIS COUNCIL HAS BECOME TOO NAIVE. PLEASE, COUNCIL, BE THE VISIONARY THAT WE THE AUBURN CITIZEN DESERVE AND EXPECT. I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOU AND DO

NOT LET US DOWN. THANK YOU. >> WHO WILL BE NEXT? ANYONE? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE CITIZENS' OPEN FORUM. ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SAY? BEFORE WE CONCLUDE? JUST WANT TO REMIND OUR COMMUNITY THAT FRIDAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL. WE'VE ALL ENJOYED OUR SUMMER AND A LITTLE LEISURELY PACE. BUT SCHOOL BUSES WILL RETURN ON FRIDAY MORNING.

AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET UP AND GO TO WORK ABOUT 15 MINUTES EARLIER THAN YOU NORMALLY WOULD. AND -- PRAY FOR PATIENCE AS YOU GO TO BED ON THURSDAY NIGHT. IT TAKES COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR EVERYBODY TO GET BACK IN RHYTHM. AND THEN THE UNIVERSITY WILL START ABOUT TEN DAYS AFTER THAT. AND SO PLEASE EVERYBODY DON'T GET IN A HURRY. PLAN WELL. AND WE'LL ALL BE

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SHE LISTENS TO EVERY PERSON THAT SITS UP HERE. IF THEY'VE GOT A QUESTION, IF THEY'VE GOT AN IDEA, IF THEY'VE THEY HAVE A BONE TO PICK, SHE VETS EVERY ONE OF THOSE PATIENTLY. AND LISTENS TO THEM AND THREES TO FIGURE OUT A PATH WAY TO HELP. AND I JUST WANT THEM ALL THOSE FOLKS TO KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE WHAT

THEY DO. >> I ECHO THAT. I THINK THAT OUR CITY MANAGER DOES A COMMENDABLE JOB GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES THAT SHE OVERSEES THE THE GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE -- WORKLOAD THAT EVENTUALLY EACH PUT HER ON A DAILY BASIS.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO US AND THE COMMITMENT TO THE

CITIZENS AND TO YOUR STAFF. >> I'D ALSO LIKE TO JUMP IN ON THAT AS WELL. IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH -- ONLY WORKING WITH TWO CITY MANAGERS, THE LANGUAGE THAT I HEAR AND THAT IF PEOPLE ARE LISTENING, AND I BELIEVE I'M ONE OF THEM, LANGUAGE THAT HAPPENS REGULARLY FROM THIS CITY MANAGER IS AT THE PLEASURE OF THIS COUNCIL. THAT -- THAT IS A TERM THAT I REGULARLY HEAR AND IT'S A REGULAR AFFIRMATION OF A PERSON UNDERSTANDING THE LANE IN WHICH THEY TRAVEL. AND THE LANE IN WHICH US AS A COUNCIL TRAVEL.

AND I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. >> AND ALSO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TOO. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE AGENDAS AND STUFF, I DON'T THINK US AS COUNCILMEMBERS REALLY HAVE TIME TO PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA BUT WE HAVE A PACKET MEETING BEFORE THIS -- BEFORE WE MEET ON TUESDAY NIGHTS. THAT -- ON TUESDAYS. THAT WE HAVE LONG DISCUSSIONS IF NECESSARY. AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT GOES ON THIS AGENDA AND I THINK THAT EVERYBODY -- I THINK THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND HER STAFF, THEY ALWAYS ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE. AND THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT ON OUR PACKET MEETINGS. SO -- I JUST -- I JUST YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC OR, YOU KNOW, ANYONE ELSE TO THINK THAT THEY JUST THROW TOGETHER A PACKET AND WE'RE NOT ASKING QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THERE AND THEY'RE NOT THERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. THEY AIN'T JUST PUTTING TOGETHER A PACKET AND JUST AMEN AND THE PACKAGES JUST BECAUSE. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF OFFENSIVE TO EVEN THINK THAT BECAUSE AS A COUNCILMEMBER, I DO CALL THE CITY MANAGER A LOT ABOUT THINGS THAT GOES ON IN MY WARD. AND SHE TAKES THE TIME OUT SOMETIMES MAY TAKE A LITTLE LONGER TO GET THE ANSWERS THAT I NEED BUT SHE DOES TAKE TIME OUT AND GET BACK WITH ME OR SEND ME AN EMAIL OR TEXT AND LET ME KNOW AND ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT I NEED TO KNOW. SO UNLESS YOU SITTING HERE IN THIS SEAT, YOU CAN -- THEN YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT IS PUT INTO EVEN COMING -- I WOULD -- IMAGINE EVEN COMING UP WITH THE AGENDA.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA BUT WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ONCE IT GETS ON THE AGENDA, FOR DISCUSSION. AND IT CAN BE LONG DISCUSSIONS AND IT CAN BE SHORT DISCUSSIONS AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT US COUNCILMEMBERS WANT TO ASK. AND MAKE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WHAT THEY NEED TO BE. SO THAT'S --

THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> YEAH. YES, PLEASE. QUICK REMINDER. THIS IS WHAT WE GET EVERY WEEK. OKAY? AND WE DON'T JUST, YOU KNOW, PUT IT UP AND SAY I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR EVERYTHING ON HERE. THIS SAME MATERIAL IS AVAILABLE TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. IT'S PUBLISHED EVERY WEEK. IT'S NO SECRET, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE SAME PACKET THAT WE GET. ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS OPEN IT UP AND READ IT AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS CALL YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND SEE IF WE CAN COME TO AGREEMENT OR IF YOU HAVE GOT ISSUES WITH IT, WE CAN -- YOU KNOW, SUPPORT YOU AND BACK IT UP. AND BRING THEM UP HERE IF WE NEED TO.

>> THAT'S AVAILABLE ON FRIDAY AFTERNOONS.

>> SAME TIME WE GET THE HARD COPY.

>> TYPICALLY POSTED BEFORE IT'S EVEN DELIVERED TO YOU.

>> ALSO -- THE CITY MANAGER IS -- PROVIDES US A LIST OF UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS WHICH FREQUENTLY GOES OUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY GETS THAT OR NOT. I

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WANT TO DO WHAT WE CAN FOR YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, SO 'RE ADJOURNED.

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