[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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>>> WE WILL CALL TO ORDER TONIGHT'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025, WE WELCOME ALL OF YOU JOINING US LIVE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AS WELL AS THOSE LISTENING OR WATCHING THROUGH OUR STREAMING SERVICES. WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU. WITH ROLL
>> WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE?
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE HEPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS]
>> PLEASE BE SEATED. THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH, THIS TIME WE WILL RECOGNIZE OUR OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEES WITH THE
CITY OF AUBURN. >> PROUD TO INTRODUCE YOU TO NOVEMBER EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, I HAVE A MEMORANDUM FROM KATRINA COOK, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. IT IS WITH GREAT PRIDE AND APPRECIATION THAT I NOMINATE MICHELLE ALTMAN FOR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, SINCE JOINING THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE ANIMAL CONTROL DIVISION IN APRIL 2014 SHE HAS CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED PROFESSIONALISM, DEDICATION, AND EXPERIENCE THAT HAS MADE HER AN INDISPENSABLE PART OF THE TEAM. HER COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SERVICE IS EVIDENT IN EVERY ASPECT OF HER WORK. SHE PROMOTES RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP, ENFORCES CITY ORDINANCES WITH FAIRNESS AND INTEGRITY, AND PROVIDES ACCURATE AND IMPACTFUL COURT TESTIMONY. SHE SHARES HER KNOWLEDGE WITH FELLOW OFFICERS AND PLAYS A KEY ROLE IN TRAINING AND MENTORING.
RECENTLY SHE FOUND HERSELF STROLLING DOWN ACADEMY DRIVE TRAILED BY A STRING OF LONGHORN CATTLE. HOW ABOUT THAT? WITH NO ACCESS TO SPECIALIZED LIVESTOCK RR EQUIPMENT, SHE IMPROVISED BY USING A BUCKET FILLED WITH ROCKS TO MIMIC THE SOUND OF FEED, A CLEVER AND EFFECTIVE SOLUTION THAT GOT THE CATTLE SAFELY HOME.
HER CALM DEMEANOR AND DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF ANIMAL BEHAVIOR TURNED EVEN THE MOST COMPLEX SITUATIONINIZE A TO MANAGEABLE TASKS. HER DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITY GOES BEYOND ANIMAL CONTROL. RESPONDING TO A ROUTINE CALL, SHE ENCOUNTERED A CITIZEN IN NEED OF BROADER ASSISTANCE. MICHELLE TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO CONNECT THE INDIVIDUAL WITH RESOURCES FOR THE ANIMAL AND OWNER EARNING PRAISE FROM THE FOOD BANK OF EAST ALABAMA AND SETTING A POWERFUL EXAMPLE OF SERVANT LEADERSHIP. SHE CONTINUES TO RESPOND TO HIGH RISK AND UNUSUAL CALLS WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF CALM AND CONFIDENCE. WHETHER SHE IS HANDLING AGGRESSIVE ANIMAL ON THE INTERSTATE, GUIDING LIVESTOCK RR THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD OR HELPING CITIZENS DURING A WEATHER EMERGENCY, MICHELLE'S ACTIONS REFLECT HER COMPASSION, KNOWLEDGE, AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO AUBURN'S CITIZENS AND ANIMALS. I RECOMMEND MICHELLE AULTMAN FOR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH. HER IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE ANIMAL CONTROL DIVISION AND THE COMMUNITY IS DEEPLY VALUED AND DESERVING OF RECOGNITION. THANK YOU SO MUCH, WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR YOU.
>> CONGRATULATIONS TO MICHELE FOR BEING EMPLOYEE OF MONTH AS WELL AS OUR EMPLOYEES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED HARD WORK TO MAKE AUBURN A SPECIAL PLACE. THE CITY COUNCIL REAPPOINTED AJ HAIRUS AND MARY MILLS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO APPLIED FOR THIS, A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT BOARD. I WANT TO GO THROUGH A FEW THINGS, SATURDAY IS THE SUGAR BOWL NAMED FOR SUG, PLAYING FOOTBALL GAMES ALL DAY SATURDAY. IF YOU WANT TO SEE GOOD FOOTBALL, PLEASE GO OUT THERE AND CHEER FOR OUR CHILDREN. I APPRECIATE PARKS AND RECREATION AND THEIR DESIRE TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THIS DAY
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FOR THESE KIDS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE DOWNTOWN TRICK-OR-TREAT LAST WEEK, MANY KNOW IT HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED FINAL DOWNTOWN TRICK-OR-TREAT, IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO GO OUT. WELL ORGANIZED AND LOT OF PEOPLE THERE AND LOT OF PEOPLE WERE HAVING FUN AND I APPRECIATE THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS FOR 25 YEARS ENDURING THIS PROJECT AND HAVING GREAT ENTHUSIASM AND I WANT TO THANK PUBLIC SAFETY FOR PROTECTING US, AS ALL THE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN ARE RUNNING AROUND DOWNTOWN AND CERTAINLY PUBLIC WORKS ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FOR CLEANING UP AFTER WE MAKE A BIG MESS. THANK YOU. IT LEFT A GREAT LEGACY FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY THAT STARTED IT, CONTINUED IT, AND WORKED LAST WEEK. I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO MY FRIEND, EDDY SMITH, SWORN IN AS NEW MAYOR LAST NIGHT, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EDDY AND HIS NEW COUNCIL AS THEY GET STARTED AND HE IS GOING DO A GREAT JOB FOR THE CITY AND CONGRATULATIONS TO GARY FULLER FOR 21 YEARS OF LEADING THAT COMMUNITY AND DOING A GREAT JOB AS A GREAT LEAD FOR THE CITY. GREAT FRIEND. I WANT TO COMMEND STUDENTS AT AUBURN AND MANY PEOPLE THIS COMMUNITY, COUPLE SUNDAYS AGO IN THE ALZHEIMER'S WALK, IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL FALL SUNDAY, BUT YOU CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON BUT THEY GOT OUT AND RAISED MONEY AND AWARENESS FOR THE DREADED DISEASE THAT AFFECTS SO MANY OF US. PARTICULARLY IN AUBURN AND IN OUR STATE AND IN OUR WORLD, IT WAS GREAT EFFORT.I APPRECIATE THOSE THAT ORGANIZED THIS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF AND PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF, THE PINE HILLS CEMETERY TOUR WAS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, BEAUTIFUL, WELL MAN CURED AND WELL PROTECTED THAT NIGHT AND ORGANIZED AND LOT OF FUN. THEN FINALLY I WANT TO SAY WELCOME TO AUBURN HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT COUNCIL, MOST OF THEM ARE JOINING US. I SPEND TIME WITH THIS GROUP EVERY YEAR, WE MEET FOUR OR FIVE TIMES DURING THE YEAR, THEY WILL COME OVER TO CITY HALL AND TAKE A FIELD TRIP AND LEARN CIVICS 101 AFTER THE HOLIDAYS BUT I APPRECIATE THEIR ENTHUSIASM. WE HAD A GREAT MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THEY ASKED A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS AND THEY HAVE A STRONG DESIRE TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN THEIR CITY AND WE WELCOME THEM HERE TONIGHT. ANYONE ELSE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THEY WOULD LIKE TO
MAKE? YES, MA'AM. >> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE AUBURN HIGH FFA ATTENDED THE 98TH NATIONAL CONVENTION IN INDIANAPOLIS THIS PAST WEEK, AND TWO ALUMNI, SHELBY FOSTER RECEIVED 10TH IN THE AGRICULTURE SCIENCE FAIR AND KATE WHITTEN AMERICAN DEGREE, HIGHEST HONOR IN FAA, LESS THAN 1% OF MEMBERS RECEIVE AND TWO OFFICERS FROM AUBURN HIGH
ATTENDED. >> CONGRATULATIONS, WE ARE PROUD
OF THEM. ANYONE ELSE? >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I HAD INTERACTION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LAST WEEK AND IT WENT WELL. I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH THOSE GUYS AND HOPEFULLY I DON'T HAVE OO SEE THEM MORE ON THOSE CONDITIONS BUT THEY WERE
VERY HELPFUL. >> WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE WITH US,
TOMMY. >> I AM VERY FORTUNATE TO BE HERE. SCOOTER OFF MY DRIVEWAY INTO THE DITCH. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. I WRECKED MY SCOOTER.
[5. AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS]
>> ALL RIGHT. >> OKAY. AT THIS TIME AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS.
>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS VEERA SMITY, AND I AM SERVING AS EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF OUTREACH THIS YEAR SGA, HERE TO GIVE A REPORT ON BEHALF OF THE AUBURN UNIVERSITY SGA. THE WIRE ROAD SIDEWALK SET TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN JANUARY, IN COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY OF AUBURN AND AUBURN UNIVERSITY AND WILL HELP INSURE SAFETY OF STUDENTS AND RESIDENTS. ONE OF THE ITEMS FOR TONIGHT IS THE MORATORIUM FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW STUDENT HOUSING ON WEST GLEN. AUBURN SGA IS GRATEFUL THE TWO PREAPPROVED STUDENT HOUSING PROJECTS ARE PRECEDING AS PLANNED, WHICH COMBINED WITH THE STUDENT HOUSING BEING ADDED ON CAMPUS, WILL ADD AROUND 2500 BEDS IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER THAT WILL HELP MAINTAIN THE EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT EXPERIENCE. CREED DAY NOVEMBER 19TH, A DAY WILL CELEBRATE THE 82ND BIRTHDAY OF THE CREED BY THE STATUE ON HALEY CONCOURSE. THANK YOU ALL, WE ARE EAGLE.
[6. CITIZENS’ COMMUNICATIONS ON AGENDA ITEMS]
>> WE ARE EAGLE. THANK YOU. >> AT THIS TIME CITIZEN'S COMMUNICATIONS ON ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO COME FORWARD. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.
>> YOU HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. >> YES.
>> ONE UNDER ORDINANCES 9A AND THE OTHER VACATION OF THE EASE
MINUTE. >> OKAY. ITEM 9A OR 9B, IS
>> 10B. PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THEN, IF NOT, NOW IS YOUR TIME.
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>> MINE WILL BE REAL SHORT. JUST CONCERNING AD, 1-8, IT IS CONCERNING THE PURCHASE OF THOSE VEHICLES, I HOPE THAT WHEN THE DECISION IS MADE BY Y'ALL TO CONTINUE PURCHASING SO MANY VEHICLES, YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, I NOTICE THAT I WOULD ASK THE, FOR RECORDS REQUEST, TO GET THE MILEAGE OF VEHICLES AND SO FORTH. THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT. I THINK IN ORDER TO DO A GOOD JOB OF UNDERSTANDING YOUR VEHICLES AND THE STATUS OF THOSE VEHICLES, MILEAGE IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING, I KNOW THE STATE OF ALABAMA DOESN'T REQUIRE IT, BUT I THINK WHEN ALL MAKING DECISIONS, YOU SHOULD KNOW HOW MANY MILES ARE ON DIFFERENT VEHICLES, HOW FAST THEY ARE GAINING AND SO FORTH. I THINK THAT IS A GOOD WAY OF MAKING DECISIONS. AND ALSO, WANTED TO ASK, IT IS JUST A SIMPLE THING, THE AR15S, 80, AR15S, IS THAT A NORMAL NUMBER? I AM JUST ASKING, KIND OF LIKE, WOW, WE ARE HAVING A WAR HERE PRETTY SOON OR IS THERE SOMETHING WE ARE NOT AWARE OF? BUT 80 AR15S IS A LOT OF FIRE POWER. WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
[7. CITY MANAGER’S COMMUNICATIONS]
>> OKAY. WE WILL MOVE AHEAD WITH CITY MANAGER'S COMMUNICATIONS.
[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA]
>>> FIRST ITEM IS CONSENT AGENDA, DOES ANY COUNCILMEMBER WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM AND DEAL WITH THAT ITEM INDIVIDUALLY?
>> YES, PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE 8D6, 8 DELTA 6, AND 8
>> CHARLIE. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE?
[8.b.3. Downtown Entertainment, LLC d/b/a EN Alumni Event Alabama Gameday. 140 – Special Events Retail ABC License. 715 West Magnolia Avenue.]
OKAY. >> ITEM 8B3 IS REQUEST FROM DOWNTOWN ENTERTAINMENT LLC DOING BUSINESS AS ALUMNI EVENT ALABAMA GAMEDAY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS RETAIL ALCOHOL BEVERAGE LICENSE FOR EVENT HELD ON NOVEMBER 29TH FOR PROPERTY LOCATED 715 WEST
MAGNOLIA AVENUEFELT >> APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. NEXT.
[8.c. Waive residential trash collection fees. Designate Trash Amnesty 2026. March 9 - April 3, 2026.]
>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
>> 8C WAIVES RESIDENTIAL TRASH CORRECTION FEES TYPICALLY CHARGED FOR TRASH EXCEEDING 5 CUBIC YARDS MARCH 9-8.
>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MR. MORMON.
>> YES, THANK YOU. I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT NEED A LITTLE EXPLANATION. IT SAYS AMNESTY, BUT IT IS ONLY MORE OF THE SAME, JUST A QUANTITY ISSUE, IS THAT RIGHT? THIS IS DEBRIS?
>> OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR, MAKE SURE WE GET THIS
STRAIGHT HERE. >> YES. THANK YOU FOR PULLING THAT OFF. THIS IS PART OF OUR BEAUTIFICATION, OUR TRANSITION FROM WINTER TO SPRING. WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO CLEAN UP THEIR PROPERTIES. OUR ORDINANCE HAS A FIVE CUBIC YARD STATE ON IT, WHICH MEANS YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED FIVE CUBIC YARDS AT EACH HOUSEHOLD. THIS ALLOWS MORE FIVE CUBIC YARDS THAN YOU ARE PERMITTED. THAT IS FOR ANYTHING, LEAVES, DEBRIS, PILES, APPLIANCES, TYPICALLY WE ONLY ALLOW TWO OR THREE. WITH THIS YOU CAN PUT OUT AS MUCH AS YOU WANT AND YOU WON'T BE CHARGED A FEE. TYPICALLY, FOR HALF LOAD, YOU ARE CHARGED $50 FOR A WHOLE LOAD, CHARGED $100. THIS WAIVES THOSE FEE PHYSICAL YOU ALL VOTE
FOR IT. >> ARE THE THINGS YOU CAN'T PUT
OUT THERE? >> THERE IS. HAZARDOUS WASTES, OF COURSE, AND GARBAGE. THIS IS FOR BULKY ITEMS, OUTDOOR ITEMS, LEAVES, TRASH, DEBRIS, THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS NOT FOR
GARBAGE OR HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS. >> OLD APPLIANCES?
>> OLD APPLIANCES. LAWN MOWERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AS LONG AS YOU DRAIN THE OIL AND GASOLINE OUT OF THEM.
>> OKAY. >> THANKS. THANK YOU FOR THE OUTSTANDING JOB Y'ALL DO. COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN
[8.d.6. McSweeney Auto. Purchase one (1) 2026 Chevrolet Colorado Crew Cab 4x4 Pickup Truck. Environmental Services. $33,570.49.]
>> OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. >> 8D6 AUTHORIZES THE PURCHASES
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OF 2026 CHEVROLET. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION IS SECOND.
>> MR. GRISWOLD. >> YES, THIS IS AN EXPANSION VEHICLE, WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT?
>> IT IS AN EXPANSION VEHICLE, THE MEMO IN THE PACKET STATES THE VEHICLE BE USED BY SOLID WASTE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN SOLID WASTE DIVISION, THEY DO NOT HAVE A VEHICLE AS THAT IS A RELATIVELY NEW POSITION, KATRINA. IN ORDER TO PERFORM SOLID WASTE ENFORCEMENT THEY NEED A VEHICLE TO DRIVE AROUND
IN. >> THERE IS NOT ANOTHER VEHICLE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE WHOLE ENVIRONMENTAL--
>> KATRINA? >> I KNOW THIS IS A DEDICATED VEHICLE FOR THAT ONE PERSON, BUT SEEMS LIKE--
>> THIS IS A DEDICATED VEHICLE, SOLID WASTE ENFORCEMENT IS 40-HOUR WEEK JOB, WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS, ONE IS CURRENTLY USING A RECYCLING VEHICLE THAT WAS PURCHASED WITH A GRANT, AND THEY ARE USEING IT FOR RECYCLING. SO WHEN WE PURCHASE ITEMS WITH GRANTS THEY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS. SO SHE CAN'T POLICE GARB AGE OR TRASH, SHE CAN ONLY POLICE RECYCLING.
SO WITH THE PURCHASE OF THIS VEHICLE, SHE IS ALLOWED TO LOOK OVER GARBAGE AND TRASH DEBRIS PILES.
>> ONE OF OUR PURPOSES AND ENFORCEMENT, WE HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL ABOUT MIXING STREAMS, WE HAVE TO-- WE GET FINED BY RECYCLING THING BUT THIS IS PEOPLE NOT PUTTING THEIR GARBAGE CANS UP, VARIOUS VIOLATIONS OF CONTAMINATION.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THANK YOU.
>> WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER VEHICLE. FLEET SERVICES HAS A SPARE PICKUP TRUCK OR TWO WE ROTATE THROUGHOUT THE CITY BUT
NOT WIDELY AVAILABLE. >> THEY ARE FOR INDIVIDUALS
HAVING VEHICLES SERVICED. >> THANK YOU.
>> YOU GOOD? >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> ANYBODY ELSE? >> CAY. ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
[8.d.11. Walker Consultants. Maintenance and repairs to the Wright Street Parking Deck. $50,500.]
>> ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> 8D11 AUTHORIZES CONTRACT WITH WALKER CONSULTANTS TO DEVELOP CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND PERFORM CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION NECESSARY FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OF RIGHT STREET PARKING DECK IN AMOUNT OF
$50,500. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.
>> THANK YOU AGAIN. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE, SO, WALKER CONSULTANTS HAS ALREADY PERFORMED AN ASSESSMENT OF THE
PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> CORRECT.
>> THEY COMPLETED THEIR ASSESSMENT AND DELIVERED THE
REPORT IN JANUARY OF 2025. >> OKAY. THEY COMPLETED IT,
INCLUDES RECOMMENDATIONS. >> CORRECT.
>> NOW WE ARE HIRING THE SAME COMPANY AGAIN TO PERFORM DESIGN
DETAILS TO-- >> YES, SIR. PUT TOGETHER OUR DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO PUT IT OUT TO BID.
>> IT INCLUDES UP TO FOUR ON SITE VISITS, I THINK.
>> CORRECT. THERE IS A LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION.
>> SORRY, SIX SITE VISITS. >> YES, SIR.
>> SOWE ARE GOING TO HIRE ANOTHER COMPANY TO ACTUALLY DO
>> DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH THAT WILL BE?
>> THE ESTIMATE PROVIDED BY THE CONSULTANT IS RANGE OF $400 TO
$500,000. >> $50,000 NOW, THEN ANOTHER$400,000, WE PAY TO PERFORM THEORIGINAL ASSESSMENT?
>> I BELIEVE $14,400. >> ALREADY TALKING ALMOST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS MORE TO KEEP IT UP AND RUNNING, IS THAT--
>> CORRECT. THERE IS-- THIS WAS EXPECTED WHEN WE APPROVED THE PROJECT, POURED IN PLACE PARKING GARAGE, WALKER WAS ALSO, THEY ARE THE PREMIER CONSULTANTS ON PARKING GARAGES. OTHERS, THIS IS STRUCTURAL ELEMENT AND WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT IN ORDER TO KEEP IT IN THE BEST STRUCTURAL CONDITION FOR IT TO LIVE 50, 60, 70' YEARS LIFESPAN OR MORE. WE HAVE A TENANT, THE STUDENT BAPTIST CENTER IN THERE, VERY STRICT CONDO AGREEMENTS AND OTHER THINGS WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN.
>> CORRECT. THE MAJORITY OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE PERFORMED IS LIFE EXTENDING MAINTENANCE ON THE BUILDING.
MOST OF IT CONSISTS OF WATER COATING MEMBRANES, WATER PROOFING APPLIED TO THE 7TH FLOOR DECK . THAT WILL BE THE MAJORITY OF THE COST OF THIS FIRST ROUND OF MAINTENANCE.
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>> WE SHOULDN'T EXPECT ANOTHER $400,000 NEXT YEAR?
>> WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE WE NEED TO PERFORM AND FIVE AND TEN-YEAR PLAN OF MAINTENANCE NEEDED ON THAT STRUCTURE, BUT IT IS WEIGHTED HEAVILY ON THE FIRST YEAR. OUR COSTS ARE LESS EACH YEAR THEREAFTER. THE TRAFFIC
CODING MEMBRANES ARE NOT CHEAP. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> HOW OFTEN WILL WE-- HOW OFTEN DO YOU ESTIMATE WE WILL DO THE MAINTENANCES? YEARLY? OR EVERY FIVE YEARS? TEN YEARS?
>> DEPENDS. WE WILL UPDATE THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT WHICH WILL SUBSEQUENTLY UPDATE THE FIVE AND TEN-YEAR OUTLOOK ON MAINTENANCE NEEDS. WE WILL MAKE THE DECISIONS AT THAT TIME. EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS IS WHAT IS RECOMMENDED FOR THE CONDITION
ASSESSMENT OF THAT TYPE. >> ALL RESIGN IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WHERE IT SITS TODAY AND WAS BUDGETED.
>> YOU ESTIMATE ON THE AVERAGE WE WILL BE LOOKING AT SIMILAR COST, THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THIS STRUCK CK THAT EVERY THREE
TO FIVE YEARS? >> NO, SIR. TRAFFIC CODING MEMBRANES WILL LAST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.
MAINTENANCE COSTS DECREASE 5-10 YEARS BUT I AM RELUCTANT TO SAY MORE OTHER THAN WE WILL REASSESS EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
>> PROBABLY WON'T SAY $400,000 NEXT YEAR, THREE TO FIVE YEARS
DOWN THE ROAD? >> SO, NEXT YEAR WE WILL HAVE ROUGHLY $200,000 TO $300,000 MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND THEN TAPERS OFF TOWARD THE END OF THE FIVE AND TEN-YEAR PLAN.
>> WE ARE GOING TO PAY THEM TO OVERSEE THE COMPANY THAT IS GOING TO DO THE REPAIRS, ONCE THEY DO THE DESIGN, DO WE NOT
HAVE SUFFICIENT-- >> WE ARE NOT STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS ON THE STAFF. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS ON THE STAFF. THEY ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING THIS, WE HAVE A FACILITY STAFF THAT MAINTAINS A VARIETY OF BUILDINGS BUT WE BRING CONSULTANTS IN FOR AREA OF EXPERTISE WE DO NOT
HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> I WILL SAY THEY ARE NOT SOLEY MANAGING THE PROJECT THERE WILL BE PEOPLE IN PUBLIC WORKS THAT KEEP AN EYE ON THEM BUT WE ARE USING THEIR TECHNICAL EXPERTISE TO MAKE SURE THE CONTRACT IS PERFORMING WORK WE DON'T HAVE, THE KNOW HOW TO KNOW IT IS DONE
EXACTLY PROPER. >> ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLANS
THEY PUT TOGETHER. >> I AM GOOD. THANK YOU.
>> WHAT IS THE ACTIVITY ON THE PARKING DECK NOW? BECOMING MORE
AND MORE USED? >> MR. HOWARD WILL COME UP, THERE IS-- WE ARE SEEING GOOD RESULTS WITH NEW PARKING MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND I WILL HAVE HIM SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE
HE WATCHES THE DATA CLOSELY. >> SURE. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. YES, WE ARE SEEING CONTINUED UPTICK IN USAGE OF THE RIGHT STREET PARKING DREK, I WOULD SAY ON ANY GIVEN DAY WE ARE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE RANGING, ANY GIVEN WEEKDAY RANGING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 130, 125, TO MAYBE 150, 175 CARS, OBVIOUSLY THURSDAY, FRIDAY, GAME DAYS COMPLETELY FILLING UP. SO FAR WE HAVE RECEIVED REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK ON THE NEW EQUIPMENT THAT WE PUT IN PLACE, AND SHOULD BE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PARK MOBILE ROLL-OUT AT THE DECK HERE PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT
>> YOU GOT THE E-MAIL FROM DOWNTOWN EMPLOYEE, I COPIED YOU ALL ON THAT RESPONSE, JUST REMINDING EVERYBODY THAT THE PARKING GARAGE WAS BUILT TO SERVE ANYBODY USING DOWNTOWN FOR ANY REASON, IN THE AMOUNT OF 350 PUBLIC PARKING SPACES ARE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY, $1 AN HOUR, GAME SATURDAYS ARE THE ONLY DAY IT IS A RITAL BIT HIGHER OF A PRICE BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THE MARKET OUT BUT IT IS RARE UNLESS WE HAVING A MAJOR EVENT DOWNTOWN, THAT THE PARKING GARAGE IS FULL. SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY, I HAD TO DRIVE AROUND, WE PUT SANDWICH BOARDS OUT IN THE GATE STREET PARKING LOT, WE TRY TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE RIGHT STREET PARKING DECK, EXCEPT RARE OCCASIONS, IT IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEED THE METER OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. SO, THAT IS WHY THE COUNCIL INVESTED OVER $16 MILLION IN A PROJECT AND STILL INVESTING IN MAINTENANCE
THEREOF. >> WHAT IS THE CAPACITY?
>> 350 SPACES. >> DO WE COORDINATE IT ALL WITH THE AUBURN BANK PARKING DECK? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THEIR
OCCUPANCY? -- >> THEY ARE OPERATING LIKE WE HAVE THE SAME COMPANY MANAGING THE DECK NOW FOR US BUT THEY HAVE OBLIGATIONS TO TENANTS IN THE BANK BUILDING ITSELF, PLUS THE HOTEL AND THEN THEY DO SOME HOURLY AND THEY DO LEASE TO OTHER ENTITIES. THAT IS ONE KEY DIFFERENCE WE ARE NOT LEASING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TEN SPACES THAT GO TO THE ALABAMA BAPTIST STATE BOARD OF MISSIONS AS PART OF OUR PROPERTY ARRANGEMENT, THE
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REST OF IT IS NOT LEASED INTENTIONALLY TO GIVE EVERYBODYEQUAL ACCESS TO THE DECK. >> DO WE HAVE AN IDEA HOW MANY SPACES ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC WITH THE AUBURN BANK?
>> AT THE MOMENT, I DON'T. WE WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH THEM.
>> OKAY. >> BECAUSE NOW THE HOTEL IS OPEN, MORE SPACE WE WERE USING MAY BE RESERVED BY THE HOTEL.
>> OKAY. >> DO I I REMEMBER THE INCOME ON THIS, EVEN WITH ALL THE GLITCHES WE HAD WAS IT HALF A MILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR? >> FOR FISCAL 25 IT WAS $535,000, WHICH WAS UP ABOUT 11% OVER 24, SO, AND WE HOPE TO SEE THAT GO UP A LITTLE BIT WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY HANDLING
THINGS FOR IT. >> SO WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY WHAT WE MAKE ON THE DECK THAT WE ARE ABLE TO COVER SOME OF THE-- AT LEAST, OBVIOUSLY OFFSET SOME OF IT--
>> IT WILL OFFSET SOME MAINTENANCE AND SO ON BUT IS IT FULLY OFF SETTING DEBT SERVICE? IT IS NOT. THIS IS VERY MUCH--
>> NOT DEBT SERVICE. >> YEAH, NO.
>> ARE WE OFF SETTING THE MAINTENANCE COST?
>> SURE, IT WILL OFFSET MAINTENANCE AND THE OPERATION OF THE DECK IN TERMS OF MANAGEMENT. WITH A LITTLE TO SPARE.
>> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS?
>> ALL RIGHT, MOTION AND SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
>> THAT MOTION CARRIES. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE
OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THE AGENDA, THE COMMENT WAS MADE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF I
>> DIRECTOR MATTHEWS, CURRENTLY OUR OFFICE ARE GETTING VERY OLD, IT IS HARD TO FIND AIR CONDITIONING, IF I UNDERSTAND
CORRECT? ? >> THE SAME AMMUNITION, THE ISSUE IS THE CURRENT PATROL RIFLE INVENTORY THAT WE HAVE, VIETNAM-ERA RIFLES ON LOAN TO US BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, SURPLUS RIFLES, AND WE NEED TO TURN THOSE BACK INTO THE GOVERNMENT SO THESE WILL REPLACE THOSE LOANED FIREARMS.
>> THANK YOU. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REALIZE WE ENJOY LOW CRIME RATE HERE IN AUBURN, IT IS NOT ACCIDENT, IT IS DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN SERVING US AND WE NEED TO FIND THE BEST EQUIPMENT WE CAN AND YOU HAVE TO STAY AHEAD OF THE GAME TO BE SUCCESSFUL, UNLIKE NEIGHBORING TOWNS AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.
THE FOUR VEHICLES, FOUR WHEEL DRIVE, ONE ON EACH VEHICLE, FOUR
COMING, IT LOOKS LIKE? >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> SOMETIMES WE STILL HAVE RURAL AREAS WE NEED TO GET ON THE ROAD, ALL WHEEL DRIVE DOESN'T MEAN FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE, YOU NEED SOMETHING THAT CAN GET IN THE WOODS AND APPREHEND CRIMINALS OR
FIND LOST CHILDREN. >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY ALSO RESPOND TO MR. WILKINS' REQUEST ABOUT MILEAGE ON THE VEHICLES, I THINK YOU WILL FIND A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION PROVIDED IN OUR PACKET.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE BALANCE OF CONSENT AGENDA. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
[9.a. Ordinance declaring a moratorium on the construction of multiple unit developments and private dormitory developments within the Urban Core and Urban Neighborhood – West zoning districts.]
>> OPPOSED? APPROVED. >> ORDINANCES. ITEM 9A DECLARES TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF MULTIPLE UNIT DEVELOPMENTS AND PRIVATE DORMITORY DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE URBAN CORE AND URBAN NEIGHBOR WEST, UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY AND PUBLIC HEARING RECOMMENDED.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS TO A DATE CERTAIN
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO POSTPONE NOVEMBER 18TH. DISPOSE OF THAT?
>> YOU CAN, AND THEN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING OR OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN DISPOSE, IF THE MAJORITY TO OPEN IT.
>> OKAY. >> DO WE NEED TO DO THAT BY ROLL
CALL? >> NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO. IT IS
JUST POSTPONEMENT. >> COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ON POSTPONING TO THE 18TH? EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?
>> I AM FINE, THE HEARING TONIGHT-- LEAVE IT OPEN AND WE
CONTINUE THE NEXT ONE. >> I AGREEISM
>> SO, SPECIFICALLY RIGHT HERE, POSTPONE UNTIL 18TH. EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL TAKE THIS BACK UP ON THE 18TH.
>> FIRST READING? >> YEAH, FIRST READING WOULD MEAN IT WOULD COME UP NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING, YOU WOULD NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO MOVE THE BUSINESS FORWARD AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON I DID HEAR HIM MENTION YOU NEED TO DISCUSS
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WHETHER OR NOT YOU LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN OR REOPEN AND WE WILL ADVERTISE ACCORDINGLY.>> ALL RIGHT. I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH FEW OF YOU TODAY ABOUT THIS PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, FEW OF YOU MENTIONED YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT ALSO AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK. IS THAT THE WISHES OF THE COUNCIL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT AS WELL
AS REOPENED ON THE 18TH? >> YES.
>> YOU DO THAT, THEN LEAVE IT OPEN.
>> LEAVE IT OPEN? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS HOW WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS Y WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING SHORTLY, WE WOULD ASK YOU COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND WE ASK YOU ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT THIS. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> WHO WOULD BE FIRST? ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THIS? YES, SIR.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. MAY NAME IS SXN JIM BEATTY, 504, BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA. AGAIN, I AM JIM BEATTY, VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT FOR CAPSTONE COMMUNITIES, HERE ON BEHALF OF CAPSTONE, AND JV PARTNER, LANDMARK PROPERTIES TO ASK THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION TO EXCLUDE OUR DEVELOPMENT ON WEST GLEN FROM PROPOSED MORATORIUM. OUR TEAM INITIALLY SAT DOWN WITH CITY STAFF, MEGHAN CROUCH AND SCOTT COMINGS OCTOBER 24TH, 2024 AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR HAVE BEEN WORKING IN GOOD FAITH WITH LAND OWNERS, ARCHITECTS, CIVIL ENGINEERS AND UTH PARTNERS TO BRING A STUDENT HOUSING PLAN THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE VARIANCES. THE PROPOSED NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ADJACENT TO UNCOMMON AUBURN AND HOUSE APPROXIMATELY 927 STUDENTS. THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS NOW DESIGNATED FOR HIGH DENSITY STUDENT HOUSING USE, CURRENTLY PROVIDES HOUSEING FOR OVER 200.
EFFECTIVE LY, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT NETS APPROXIMATELY ADDITIONAL 700 BEDS. OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD AUL SEMEET THE CITY REQUIREMENT OF 1.1 PARKING SPACES PER STUDENT ON SITE. ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2025, WE FORMALLY REQUESTED A PREAPPLICATION MEETING WITH THE CITY, AND THIS MEETING IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 12TH, 2025, WHICH OUR TEAM HAS BEEN PREPARING FOR DILIGENTLY. UNDER CURRENT SCHEDULE, WITHOUT THE MORATORIUM, OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT BREAK GROUND UNTIL NOVEMBER OF 2026, AND WOULD DELIVER FOR THE 2029-2030 SCHOOL YEAR. SHOULD THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE MORATORIUM, OUR DEVELOPMENT COULD BE DELAYED UNTIL POTENTIALLY THE 2031-2032 SCHOOL YEAR, EFFECTIVELY CREATING A TWO-YEAR DELAY. CAPSTONE AND LANDMARK DEVELOPED OVER 200,000 STUDENT HOUSING BEDS IN OVER 40 STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS. IT IS OUR OPINION THAT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF STUDENT BEDS IN THE URBAN CORE WILL ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC BY ENCOURAGING MORE STUDENTS TO WALK BOTH WITHIN DOWNTOWN AND TO CAMPUS.
CONSIDERING OUR LOCATION IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF BOTH CAMPUS AND AUBURN'S DOWNTOWN, WE ARE CONFIDENT OUR DEVELOPMENT WILL ENCOURAGE MORE STUDENTS TO WALK INSTEAD OF DRIVE. WE ARE ALSO PREPARED TO STUDY IN DETAIL POTENTIAL IMPACT OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE ON BOTH STORM WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY AND WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO FIND USEFUL SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS CITY CONCERNS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO TRAFFIC, STORM WATER, AND SEWER. WE ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST APPROVALS OR VARIANCES, BUT TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO EXCLUDE OUR DEVELOPMENT FROM THE PROPOSED MORATORIUM SO THAT WE CAN CONCURRENTLY SEEK SOLUTIONS WITHOUT ADDITIONAL DELAY OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AND ISSUES THE CITY WISHES TO ADDRESS. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU.
>> WHO WOULD BE NEXT? >> YES, SIR.
>> ROBIN WILKINS AUBURN, ALABAMA. I CUT OUT HALF OF THE SPEECH BECAUSE I REALIZE THAT PROBABLY DIDN'T PERTAIN AS MUCH TO. I FELT I BETTER CORRECT IT SO I WAS DOING IT BACK THERE, EDITING. UMAUBURN PLANNING COMMISSION FOLLOWS INSTRUCTIONS FOR MOST, BUT NOT ALL DEVELOPERS, COMMERCIAL, REALTORS, WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS AND THE SIT A BUREAUCRATS, WHITE THE CITY COUNCIL RUBBER STAMPS MOST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT NOT ALL. CITY OF AUBURN SHOULD NAME ITS NAME FROM CITY OF
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AUBURN, IT SHOULD GO TO THE CITY OF AUBURN STUDENT HOUSING WITH UGLY GAUDY, MONSSTROSITIES OF SKYSCRAPERS, BEFITTING SINCE THE LOGO CHANGED FROM LAMP OF KNOWLEDGE TO THE OAK TREE OF TOILET PAPER, WITH THE SINGLE MINDED GROWTH BROUGHT US EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC, ISSUES WITH STORM WATER AND SEWER, WHILE DROIING THE LOVELIEST VILLAGE ON THE PLAINS. OUR MAYOR PRO TEM SAID AT THE WORK STATION YESTERDAY SHE BASICALLY HAD LITTLE RESPONSE ON THE MORATORIUM ISSUE BUT IT IS SIMPLE, IT ALREADY HAS BEEN DESTROYED BY Y'ALL, THE CITIZENS ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING DISSECTED IN THE 2030 AND 2040 PLANS. I KNOW THIS CITY AS WELL AS ANYONE. I TRAVEL IN THE AUBURN AREA BETWEEN 2500 AND 3500 MILES PER MONTH, AND DELIVERING FOR UBER EATS TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS HMO AND CONDOS, OLDER ESTABLISHED SINGLE HOUSING, TOWN HOUSES, APARTMENTS, TRAILER PARKS, SMALL BUSINESSES, THE FACTORIES, THE HIGH TECH INDUSTRIES, LOW INCOME HOUSING, WEALTHY HOUSING, AS COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON SAID, THE HORSE IS OUT OF THE BARN. EACH OF YOU HAD A HAND IN THE DOWNTOWN DESTRUCTION OF THE CITY OF AUBURN, WHETHER YOU ARE ONE TERM, TWO TERMS, OR THREE TERM MEMBER, WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE PAST MAYORS AND CONTROLLING CITY MANAGERS, BUT WHO IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE? YOU, THE COUNCIL. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE. OF THE TOP TEN CITIES OF ALABAMA, WE HAVE THE HIGHEST PAID CITY MANAGER AND HIGHEST PAID CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM IN THE STATE.WHAT DO WE DO? GET THEYER, THE T WAS STATED ON THE WORK SESSION YESTERDAY SEVERAL TIMES THAT LAND OWNERS IN THE URBAN CORE AND URBAN CORE WEST DEVELOPMENT AREA STATED THEY WOULD NEVER SELL THEIR LAND PROPERTY, NOT ONLY DID THEY SELL, BUT DEVELOPERS WERE ABLE TO GATHER ENOUGH PROPERTIES IN ONE GROUP TO START THE BIRTH OF DOWNTOWN STUDENT HOUSING. PLEASE DO A
PERMANENT MORATORIUM. THANK YOU. >> WHO WILL BE NEXT?
>> I HAVE QUICK QUESTIONS, TOM HALEY. DON'T WANT TO BE COMPLAINT, I WANT TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION IF POSSIBLE, WE OWN ONE OF THE NICEST BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN AUBURN. I HATE THE WORD "MORATORIUM ." I HOPE THERE IS A WAY AROUND GOING TO THAT IS STATUS, TWO WEEKS AGO WE TALKED ABOUT A PAUSE IN SIX MONTHS, LAST NIGHT I HEARD 18 MONTHS, DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS WHERE Y'ALL ARE LEANING OR NOT. THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. I LIKE THE IDEA OF WORKING IT OUT WITH THESE GUYS, IF THAT KEEPS US OUT OF THE MORATORIUM BUSINESS FOR THE TIME IT TAKES YEAR OR SO TO GET A PROJECT APPROVED. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES FROM THESE, I URGE YOU TO LOOK AT AND DO CALCULATIONS T IS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. PAYS FOR A LOT, CAN PAY FOR A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE. THER SEWER AND WATER ACCESS FEES ARE A MILLION DOLLARS FOR ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, OUR BETTER. LOT OF MONEY. DOESN'T COME TO ME, BUT, BOY, DOES IT PAY FOR A LOT OF THINGS, ESPECIALLY IF WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE IN DOWNTOWN. I SAID FOR THREE CITY MANAGERS WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST, EQUALIZE THE DENSITY ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF ALL THE PERIMETER OF ALL, YOU ARE THREE TIMES DENSITY IN DOWNTOWN AUBURN AS YOU ARE ANYWHERE. PEOPLE DON'T TEAR BUILDINGS DOWN AND GO DOWNTOWN, YOU HAVE MUCH BETTER ACCESS ALONG THE PERIMETER THAN DOWNTOWN, WE KNOW THAT. I THINK IT IS TIME FOR AUBURN UNIVERSITY TO BUILD THESE ON THEIR PROPERTY. BUT THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION. AGAIN, I WANT TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION. I WANT TO DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO GET RID OF THE TERM MORATORIUM, IT IS BAD FOR FINANCE, IT WON'T AFFECT MY BUILDING BUT IT IS JUST A BLACK CLOUD. HOW WE CAN MANAGE THROUGH THIS FOR THE FUTURE, WE NEED TO GET IN FRONT OF THIS, I HOPE NOW THERE WILL BE A PAUSE AND NOT FALL OFF THE CLIFF AT 18 MONTHS. JUST THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS. I AM GOING TO SEND Y'ALL CALCULATIONS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I THING IT IS REVEALING THE MONEY. DOIOKNOW WHAT IT IS GOING TO COST IN DOWNTOWN? BUT THAT MONEY CAN AFFORD TO CONDEMN CORNERS AND FIX INTERSECTIONS, TRAFFIC IS BAD. I AM A PROPONENT. I DRIVE IN IT. A LOT OF THESE ARE FAILED YOUR MARKS. THEY NEED TO BE IMPROVED. AGAIN, PART OF THE SOLUTION. I DON'T WANT TO BE A
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COMPLAINER TO THIS. I KNOW WHAT THIS CITY HAS MEANT TO ALL OF US AND WHERE ST. IS GOING WITH BRIGHT SPOT OF ALABAMA. LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY AND TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS MORATORIUM AS FASTAS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. >> WHO WOULD BE NEXT?
>> 211 SOUTH GAY STREET. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. HALEY, I, TOO, AM AGAINST THIS BLANKET MORATORIUM, I AM A PRIMARY STAKEHOLDER IN THE URBAN CORE, NOT ONLY THE RESIDENT THAT LIVES THE CLOSEST TO THE UNIVERSITY PROBABLY, I HAVE TWO SMALL BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN Y. SEE THE TRAFFIC ISSUES, I DEAL WITH INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE WATER, MEGHAN AND I HAD COMMENTS, I KNOW THOSE HAVE TO BE FIXED. I LIVE A BLOCK FROM STUDENT HOUSING, CROSS THE STREET FROM 680 BEDS GOING IN IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS UNIVERSITY. ALSO AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE VIABLE FOR THE CITY. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE NOT ONLY THE HOSPITALITY, BUT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE RESIDENTS AND THE BACK BONE THAT PROVIDES THOSE PEOPLE PLACES TO GO AND BE. WHAT I AM ASKING IS FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER THE BLANKET MORATORIUM ON THE MULTIUNIT DEVELOPMENT. I THINK WITH SMART GROWTH, AND I THINK WITH GOOD COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE URBAN CORE, THAT SOMETHING CAN BE DONE IN A SMART GROWTH WAY. BUT TO JUST MORATORIUM NO MULTIUNIT DEVELOPMENT, REALLY PIGEON HOLES WHAT DEVELOPMENT CAN BE DONE. IN THE LAST ORDINANCE, THAT SAID IF MY HOUSE WERE TO BURN DOWN RETAIL PROPERTY HAS TO GO ON THAT FIRST FLOOR. IT IS FINE Y.
UNDERSTOOD. I AM ALL FOR IT. BUT WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THERE? JUST A BAR? PUT ANOTHER BAR RIGHT THERE IN THE OUTSKIRTS THERE ON URBAN CORE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THAT LIMITS IT TO WITHOUT LOOKING AT SMART GROWTH. LOOKING TO PROVIDE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN, WHETHER IT IS BREAKFAST RESTAURANT AT STACKS WE MOST RECENTLY HAVE DONE OR COLLEGIATE HOTEL SAVING WHITTLE HALL. THERE IS ABILITY TO DO SMART GROWTH IN DOWNTOWN AND THE URBAN CORE, WITHOUT HAVING A BLANKET 18-MONTH TO THREE-YEAR MORATORIUM. SO I JUST ASK YOU THAT YOU CONSIDER WHAT THIS ORDINANCE SAYS, AND PULL THAT PART OUT OF THIS ORDINANCE, OR DELAY IT FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION TO HAVE WITH SMART GROWTH PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> YEP. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
>> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE WILL LEAVE IT.
>> PUT THE GAVEL, EXTEND THE PUBLIC HEARING TO NOVEMBER 18TH
MEETING. >> WE WILL EXTEND THE PUBLIC HEARING TO NOVEMBER 18TH. I WILL REMIND EVERYBODY WE WILL NOT BE TAKING A VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT BUT WE WILL NOVEMBER 18TH. I APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN TO US TONIGHT, CERTAINLY IS INCUMBENT UPON ALL NINE OF US TO CONSIDER WHAT YOU HAVE SAID TO US. OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WE ARE ALL AVAILABLE TO BE BE E-MAILED, CALLED, TALKED TO ABOUT THIS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
[10.a.1. Environmental Products Group. Purchase Two (2) Grapple Lightning Loaders with Hardbox Body. Environmental Services. $562,304.]
DO THAT. BUT WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OURAGENDA. RESOLUTIONS. >> 10A, 1 AUTHORIZES THE PURCHASE OF TWO GRAPPLE LIGHTNING LOADERS WITH HARDBOX BODY FROM ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCTS GROUP FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL
SERVICES DEPARTMENT $562,304. >> APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. ANY
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
[10.a.2. Environmental Products Group. Purchase two (2) 2025 Kenworth L770 Duel Steer 31-yard side loaders. Environmental Services. $893,376.]
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION
CARRIES. >> ITEM 10A2 AUTHORIZES PURCHASE OF TWO 2025 KENWORTH L77031-YARD SIDE LOADERS FROM ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCTS GROUP FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $893, 376. SECOND.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. >> COULD YOU HAVE MS. COOK TELL US WHAT IS THE VOLUME OF CALLS AND STOPS THEY ARE MAKING ON A
DAILY BASIS NOW? >> FOR WHICH?
>> ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. >> FOR RECYCLING, GARBAGE?
>> SHE IS GETTING EXERCISES. >> THANK YOU. IT IS YOUR NIGHT.
>> WE HAVE ALMOST 20,000 CUSTOMERS, HOUSEHOLDS WE SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE PROVIDE THREE DIFFERENT SERVICES,
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GARBAGE, SOLID WASTE THAT COMES IN A GREEN CART, BLUE CART WHICH HAS RECYCLING, AND 16,000 CUSTOMERS THAT WE SERVICE IN ADDITION TO THE ALMOST 20 IN GARBAGE. THAT IS 36. OF COURSE, TRASH, ONE OUT OF EVERY TEN HOUSES, WHICH WAS THE GRAPPLE TRUCK AND TRASH AMNESTY PERIOD YOU WILL BE ENJOYING. SO WITH THOSE STOPS, WE ARE RIGHT AT A MILLION STOPS PER YEAR. AND THAT IS OPERATING MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. MONDAY IS OUR LARGEST ROUTE. WE HAVE OVER 5,000 CUSTOMERS ON OUR MONDAY ROUTE, AND EACH DAY THAT IS WHAT WE DO, ABOUT 31 PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.>> PEOPLE MAKING MILLION STOPS? >> THAT IS CORRECT. THE GRAPPLE LOADER YOU GUYS JUST APPROVED HELPS US UTILIZE A LITTLE DIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS REPLACING A TWO-PERSON VEHICLE THAT IT TOOK TWO PEOPLE TO OPERATE. CAN ONLY HAVE ONE OPERATOR. THAT ALLOWS US TO DO MORE WORK, LESS PEOPLE. THANK
>> Y'ALL DON'T HAVE A FRIDAY ROUTE?
>> WE DO HAVE A FRIDAY ROUTE BUT IT IS FOR OUR BUSINESSES THAT WE SERVICE, IT IS FOR ANY EXTRA CALLS BUT OUR PRIMARY DAYS MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, FRIDAY WE USE AS CLEAN DAY, SO IT TAKES CARE OF OUR TRUCK. WE DO MINOR REPAIRS. OF COURSE THESE TRUCKS MAKING SO MANY STOPS, WE HAVE A LOT OF HYDRAULIC LEAKS. WE TAKE THAT TIME TO LOOK OVER OUR TRUCK TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS OUR EXPECTATION. WE ARE INSPECTED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. SO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO KEEP OUR TRUCKS UP AND RUNNING CORRECTLY.
>> OKAY. >>, ON HOLIDAY, YOU RUN FRIDAYS.
>> LIKE NEXT WEEK, TUESDAY WILL BE A DELAYED ROUTE COLLECTION AND WE WILL RUN ON A FRIDAY, YES. SAME WAY WITH THANKSGIVING
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? MOTION AND SECOND.
[10.a.3. Stivers Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Ram. Purchase twelve (12) 2026 Dodge Durango Pursuit SUVs. Police Department. $555,513.88.]
>> ANY OPPOSED? >> THE MOTION CARRIES.
>> ITEM 10A3 AUTHORIZES PURCHASE OF 122026 DODGE DURANGO PURSUIT SUVS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $555,513 .
>> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THESE ARE ALL REPLACEMENT VEHICLES, THEY ARE NOT ADDITIONAL VEHICLES. THIS GOES IN CONJUNCTION WITH ITEM 8D8 WHICH HAD THE FOUR PREVIOUSLY DELIBERATED ITEMS, SO ALL 16 OF THESE VEHICLES ARE REPLACEMENT AND TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION WE HAD EARLIER, AHEAD OF TIME, IT HAS THE SPECIFIC YEAR, MODEL, AND MILEAGE FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES IN THE PACKET, THE PACKET IS FULLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, THE SAME TIME WE GET IT ON FRIDAY EVENING, WE GET IT, HARD COPY PLUS DIGITAL COPY, ALL THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ON FRIDAY EVENING.
SO, IT IS THERE. REPLACEMENTS. I HARDLY SUPPORT THIS .
>> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE? MOTION AND
[10.b. Vacation. RaceTrac, Inc. Property located at 4735 US Highway 280 West.]
>> ITEM 10B VACATION OF PORTION OF THE DRAINAGE AND UTILITIES AT 4735 U.S. HIGHWAY 28 WEST, FURTHER AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE QUICK CLAIM DEED RACE TRACK INCORPORATED.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED. >> APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES. NO ONE. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS IS SHARED PROPERTY BETWEEN AUBURN AND THAT I THINK THERE IS CONFUSION SINCE IT SITS ON THE AUBURN SIDE, WHO IS IN CHARGE OF OVERSEEING THE DEVELOPMENT AND
ALSO THE SALES TAX DOLLARS. >> WE HAVE BEEN DLBERATING WITHOPEA LIKEA ON THE DAILY, PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS BUT UTILITY AND SO ON. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. IN THE EARLY GOING ON THIS PROJECT, YOU WILL SEE A STREET SIGN SHELTON MILL ROAD. THERE IS A STRANGE DIAGONAL THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE THAT FOLLOWS OLD KIND OF PARCEL LINES, SO CORNER OF THE GAS STATION, INCLUDING A CORNER OF THE MINI MART ITSELF AND SOME FUELING PUMPS ARE ON THAT SIDE. THE REST IS IN THE CITY LIMITS OF AUBURN. HOUSING
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AND DEVELOPMENT, SHELTON COVE IN AUBURN AND THE ONE ON 280, TO MAKE IT FUN TO FIGURE WHAT CITY THEY ARE IN. WE WORKED WITH THE STAFF DIRECTLY TO DETERMINE THE MAJORITY OF IT WAS IN AUBURN AND WE WOULD BE HANDLING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE TAX SIDE OF IT, MR. COMINGS. WE ARE IN COLLABORATION WITH THE STAFF AND WE HAD, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WE HAD A NEW CITY COUNCIL ELECTED AND THERE ARE NO ISSUES BUT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE TAX SIDE RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE WE AREALL ON THE SAME PAGE. >> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? QUESTIONS?
>> OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> THE MOTION CARRIES. >> MAYOR, THOSE ARE ALL THE
[12. CITIZENS' OPEN FORUM.]
ITEMS OF BUSINESS THIS EVENING. >> WE WILL OPEN CITIZENS OPEN FORUM, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT ANYTHING ON YOUR MIND. WE ASK YOU ADDRESS THE COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
>> SORRY, I HAVE BEEN UP HERE THREE TIMES. ROBERT WILKINS, AUBURN, ALABAMA. GOOD EVENING, CITY MANAGER, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL. OUR CITY MANAGER STATED MANY TIMES THAT SHE WORKS AT THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. WHILE IGNORING THE AUBURN CITIZEN'S RIGHTATIZE, WE CITIZENS DEMAND OUR RIGHTS BACK FROM THE CITY MANAGER. JUST SINCE MAY THE CITY MANAGER REFUSED TO PROVIDE TWO LINE ITEMS, SALARY AND WAGES AND EMPLOYEE BENEFIT FOR THE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FUND, 2025 BUDGET YEAR, WHILE HIDING BEHIND OUR CITY LAWYER. ALL OF THIS HAS DONE IS MADE ME BELIEVE THERE IS MORE TO THE ISSUE THAT THAT I HAD THOUGHT. CITY MANAGER UNWISELY USED RETAINER TO DENY NIGH ACCESS TO WHAT I HAVE REQUESTED THROUGH THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, AS CITY LAWYER FIRST HAS PRR. I THOUGHT, AT FIRST, IT WAS BECAUSE I HAD BEEN IN THE FRONT OF THE COUNCIL ON MANY ISSUES BEYOND SHORT-TERM RENTALS OVER THE LAST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, WHILE STATING MANY TIMES CONCERNING OUR OVERPAID CITY MANAGER AND HER MANAGEMENT TEAM, 100, BUT IT SEEMS THAT IS NOT THE REASON. I HAVE DEALT WITH MANY LAWYERS OVER MY CAREER, MANY THINK HAVING A JD JURISDOCTORATE BEHIND THEIR NAMES MAKE THEM SAY IT IS LEGAL AND BINDING WHEN THEY TALK IN GENERAL. ALL I HAVE BEHIND MY NAME IS CB, YOU EVER HEARD OF CB? COUNTRY BOY. I AM PROUD OF IT. IF ANY OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS QUESTION WHY THE CITY MANAGER WOULD RELINQUISH HER RESPONSIBILITIES PROVIDING THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST TO THIS AUBURN CITIZEN, I MEAN, REALLY, NOT SOME LAME EXCUSE SHE IS USING. AS ANY AUBURN CITY MANAGER GIVEN THEIR RESPONSIBILITYS TO THE CITY LAWYER WHEN THERE IS NO LEGAL CHALLENGE AT ALL? THIS IS WHY I QUESTION THE COUNCIL'S WISDOM.
I KNOW OUR MAYOR OR COUNCIL WILL DEFEND OUR CITY MANAGER WHILE TRYING TO DESTROY MIEF CREDIBILITY. BUT I ASK YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, WHY WON'T THE CITY GIVE ME THIS SIMPLE
INFORMATION? THANK YOU. >> WHO WOULD BE NEXT? ANYONE ELSE?
OKAY. COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING? >> CLOSED CITIZENS
COMMUNICATIONS. >> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY. CITIZENS' COMMUNICATIONS IS CLOSED. EVERYBODY READY TO
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