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[1. CALL TO ORDER.]
CALL TO ORDER TONIGHT'S AUBURN CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR FEBRUARY THE THIRD, 2026.WE WELCOME EVERYONE THAT HAS JOINED US LIVE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AS WELL AS THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING ON W AND I OR THEY'RE WATCHING THROUGH OUR STREAMING SERVICES.
WITH THE ROLL CALL LINDSEY ADAMS HERE.
WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[4. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS.]
MEETING OF THE MONTH, AND SO THIS TIME WE ARE EXCITED TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR EMPLOYEE THE MONTH, AS WELL AS OUR OTHER OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEES WITH THEIR SERVICE AWARDS.WE ARE PROUD TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR FEBRUARY EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
AND I HAVE A MEMORANDUM HERE FROM ALLISON HALL, THE PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF AUBURN.
MELISSA SHAVER JOINED THE CITY OF AUBURN'S PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IN NOVEMBER OF 2023 AS THE TENNIS CENTER EVENTS MANAGER AT THE YARBOROUGH TENNIS CENTER.
IN TWO YEARS, SHE'S MADE REMARKABLE IMPACT ON THE FACILITY, ITS PROGRAMS AND AUBURN'S BROADER TENNIS COMMUNITY.
HER PROFESSIONALISM INITIATIVE AND COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE HAVE ELEVATED THE YARBOROUGH TENNIS CENTER'S REPUTATION AS ONE OF THE PREMIER PUBLIC TENNIS FACILITIES IN THE COUNTRY.
UNDER MELISSA'S LEADERSHIP, THE YARBOROUGH TENNIS CENTER ACHIEVED NATIONAL RECOGNITION AS ONE OF 45 FACILITIES NATIONWIDE TO RECEIVE THE UNITED STATES TENNIS ASSOCIATION'S OUTSTANDING FACILITY AWARD.
THIS HONOR WAS PRESENTED TO THE USTA, BILLIE JEAN KING NATIONAL TENNIS CENTER IN NEW YORK AS PART OF THE 2025 UNITED STATES OPEN, RECOGNIZING EXCELLENCE IN FACILITY MANAGEMENT, PROGRAMMING AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE SPORT.
BEYOND OVERSEEING A HIGH VOLUME OF EVENTS IN PROGRAMMING, MELISSA HAS DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL INITIATIVE IN IMPROVING THE FACILITY.
SHE SUCCESSFULLY SECURED MORE THAN 75,000 IN GRANT FUNDING TO REPLACE OUTDATED INDOOR LIGHTING WITH ENERGY EFFICIENT LED FIXTURES SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCING BOTH PLAYING CONDITIONS AND SUSTAINABILITY.
MELISSA CONSISTENTLY DISPLAYS THE HIGH STANDARDS OF PROFESSIONALISM AND INNOVATION.
SHE BUILDS STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH STAFF, COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND PLAYERS, FOSTERING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS WELCOMING AND FORWARD THINKING.
HER LEADERSHIP HAS STRENGTHENING THE ABO TENNIS CENTER'S ROLE AS A VITAL HUB FOR RECREATIONAL AND COMPETITIVE TENNIS IN THE TENNIS IN THE REGION.
FOR THESE REASONS, MELISSA WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE ALABAMA RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION DISTRICT FIVE WITH THE 2025 OUTSTANDING NEW PROFESSIONAL AWARD.
MELISSA'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE A TESTAMENT TO HER WORK ETHIC, CREATIVITY, AND DEDICATION, MAKING HER AN OUTSTANDING NOMINEE FOR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEES.
CONGRATULATIONS TO MELISSA SHAVERS, OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
UM, WHAT A GREAT LINEUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT GIVE THEIR ALL TO OUR COMMUNITY EACH AND EVERY DAY THAT THEY, UM, THAT THEY GIVE TO AUBURN.
THEY PARTICIPATE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL OF THESE FOLKS.
I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE ONE PERSON, UH, IN PARTICULAR, AND THAT'S OUR POLICE, FORMER POLICE CHIEF
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WHO'S RECENTLY RETIRED.CEDRIC HAS, UH, CEDRIC ANDERSON HAS FOR 34 YEARS, HAS PROTECTED US ALL, UH, ALLOWED US TO ALL ENJOY A GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE HE WAS OUT AND ABOUT, UM, ON OUR BEHALF IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
HE HAS LED OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH CLASS AND DIGNITY AND INTENTIONALITY AND, UH, I JUST WISH CEDRIC ALL THE BEST.
HE IS ONE GREAT GUY AND I'M PROUD THAT HE WAS THE POLICE CHIEF OF MY HOMETOWN.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE.
UM, I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY.
UH, WE WERE RECOGNIZED AGAIN BY THE MILKEN INSTITUTE, ALONG WITH OUR SISTER CITY IN OPELIKA AND OUR MSA AT LARGE AS THE NUMBER 10 MSA FOR SMALL CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES.
UH, THEY RECOGNIZED OUR JOB GROWTH.
THEY RECOGNIZED OUR EDUCATION.
THEY RECOGNIZED OUR GAINS IN LEISURE AND HOSPITALITY.
UM, THEY RECOGNIZED OUR HOUSING.
AND, UM, THE GREAT THING ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY IS I KNOW WE'RE NOT SATISFIED, AND JUST BEING NUMBER 10 DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T HAVE NINE MORE SPACES, NINE MORE PLACES WE CAN CONTINUE TO ATTAIN TO, TO DO, TO BE.
UM, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HERE TONIGHT THAT HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH THIS.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO TO WORK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR EVERY DAY THAT HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH THIS.
AND, UH, I'M VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT STRIVES TO BE THE VERY, VERY BEST.
AND THIS MILKING INSTITUTE IS, UH, IS CERTAINLY, UM, NOT BIASED TOWARDS THE CITY OF AUBURN.
UH, THEY SEE IT LIKE THEY SEE IT.
AND TO BE CONTINUALLY RECOGNIZED IS, IS QUITE AN HONOR, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT.
I WANNA SAY THANK OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
UH, THEY INVITED ME RECENTLY TO SPEAK TO THIS YEAR'S GROUP OF ALL AUBURN YOUNG PROFESSIONALS.
UH, I WAS AMAZED AT HOW MANY YOUNG PEOPLE ARE DOING LIFE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IT WAS A NICE EVENING OVER AT THE BASEBALL STADIUM.
AND, UH, AS A PERSON WHO HAS SPENT, UH, 99% OF HIS LIFE HERE IN AUBURN, I WAS AMAZED AT HOW MANY PEOPLE I DID NOT KNOW.
AND SO AUBURN CONTINUES TO ATTRACT NEW, NEW, NEW CITIZENS TO THIS COMMUNITY, UH, NEW EMPLOYEES, THIS COMMUNITY.
AND IT WAS A VERY EXCITING EVENING.
UM, MY YARD WAS RECENTLY TIGER.
UH, THERE WAS ABOUT 12 YARD SIGNS IN MY FRONT YARD YESTERDAY WHEN I RETURNED HOME.
AND, UH, IT WAS AN AWARENESS CAMPAIGN AND A FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN FOR THE UPCOMING PROJECT GRADUATION, WHICH IS A CELEBRATION, UH, OF THE 2026 AUBURN HIGH GRADUATES.
UM, I ASK ALL OF YOU TO CONSIDER PARTICIPATE IN THAT IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT THIS YEAR.
IT'S A FUN NON-ALCOHOLIC, UH, MANNER OF, OF, UH, CELEBRATING THE GRADUATION OF PROBABLY OVER 700 YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS CLASS THIS YEAR.
AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THIS IS APPARENT LED AND PARENT DRIVEN, AND I APPRECIATE THE PARENTS, UH, BEING CONSIDERED THIS.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE 34TH YEAR OF PROJECT GRADUATION, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, MYSELF AND THREE OTHER OF THESE RASCALS THAT ARE UP HERE JUMPED IN A COLD POOL A WEEK AGO SATURDAY, UH, FOR A GREAT CALLS FOR LEE COUNTY SPECIAL OLYMPICS.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THEY HAD A GREAT FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN FOR A GREAT ORGANIZATION.
UM, AGAIN, UM, IT WAS A LOT OF FUN.
IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE THEM, THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF CITIZENS THAT WERE THERE FROM YOUNG CITIZENS TO STUDENTS, TO EVEN A FEW OLDER CITIZENS TO CHILDREN, TO ADULTS.
IT WAS A, IT WAS A GREAT MORNING THERE AT, UH, AT OUR LOCAL POOL.
AND I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WILLINGNESS TO COME OUT AND GET FREEZING COLD.
NOT AS COLD AS IT WOULD'VE BEEN THIS PAST SATURDAY, BUT IT WAS REALLY COLD, UH, TO RAISE MONEY, RAISE AWARENESS FOR A GREAT ORGANIZATION, LEE COUNTY SPECIAL OLYMPICS.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD? WHAT IS MSA THAT WE, UH, YOU SAID WE'RE NUMBER 10? YES.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS MSA FOR? THE, IT'S A METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA.
THERE'S NEW TERMINOLOGY FOR IT AS WELL.
WHAT'S IT CALLED NOW? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE FOLKS LISTENING UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WAS.
SO IN ESSENCE, THAT'S LEE COUNTY, BUT YEAH, IT'S BY TOTAL POPULATION WHEN YOU BECOME ONE.
AND THEIR STUDY IS ONLY DONE WITH MSAS.
IT'S NOT DONE WITH INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES, IS WHAT I READ.
THIS PARTICULAR STUDY IS, YEAH.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE? I WOULD, YEAH, PLEASE.
UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME OUT TO DOWNTOWN AUBURN ON VALENTINE'S DAY, THE 14TH OF FEBRUARY FOR THE MARDI GRAS PARADE.
IT'S THE, UM, NINTH ANNUAL PARADE AND IT'S AT 3:00 PM PUT ON BY CREW TO TIGRIS.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK, UM, MRS. APRIL HALVORSON'S CLASS TRANSITION SERVICES TO CLASS AT AUBURN HIGH THAT HAS HELPED TO REPURPOSE, UM, BEADS AND CLEAN THEM SO THEY CAN BE REUSED, UM, IN PARADE AFTER PARADE, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT, UM, GOING TO THE, UM, LANDFILL.
AND THEN ALSO I'D LIKE TO ECHO THE MAYOR'S SENTIMENT ABOUT PROJECT GRADUATION.
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SENIOR CLASS THAT BROUGHT IT BACK AFTER COVID AND ALSO NOW HAVE A SENIOR, UM, GRADUATING THIS YEAR.IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THESE KIDS TO BE CELEBRATED AND WE APPRECIATE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND PARENTS, UM, HELPING TO SUPPORT PROJECT GRADUATION.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
AS EVERYBODY KNOW, THIS IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
SO, UM, MY YOUTH ORGANIZATION IS HAVING THEIR ANNUAL BLACK HISTORY PROGRAM, UH, SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER I, SEPTEMBER, LORD, JUNE, FEBRUARY THE EIGHTH AT THE BOYKIN CENTER AT 3:00 PM AND EVERYONE IS INVITED TO COME OUT TO SEE GREAT PERFORMANCE FROM OUR YOUTH.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE FINISHED.
IT STARTS AT THREE, SO WE'LL BE FINISHED BEFORE THE SUPER BOWL STARTS.
SO DON'T LET THAT CAUSE YOU NOT TO COME OUT TO WATCH OUT YOUTH BY FOUR 30.
OH, INVITATION TO FEBRUARY 8TH.
WHAT DATE WAS THAT AGAIN? SUNDAY.
ANYONE ELSE? I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT, UH, UH, ENTIRE CHIEF CEDRIC ANDERSON.
HE WAS A SPECIAL KIND OF PERSON TO OUR, UH, COMMUNITY AND WORKED HARD HIS ENTIRE CAREER AND WORKED, SPENT A GOOD PORTION OF THAT WITH ME IN NARCOTICS.
HE COULD SURVIVE MOST ANYTHING
BUT WE HAD A, WE HAD A GOOD TIME IN OUR CAREERS.
AND, UH, WISHING NOTHING BUT THE BEST AND AUBURN'S A BETTER PLACE FOR HAVING SAID ANDERSON'S CHIEF OF POLICE.
I, I KNOW THAT HIS P MIKE HARRIS WILL DO A GOOD JOB AS, UH, CHIEF NOW, BUT, UH, SAID IT WAS A SPECIAL PERSON.
I, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, UM, CEDRIC, I, I'VE NOT KNOWN CEDRIC A WHOLE LONG TIME, BUT I DO KNOW HIM AND HE'S A GREAT GUY.
BUT I ALSO LOOKED AT THIS LIST WHERE YOU HAD RETIRED ZONE HERE AND DEMITRIUS PITS, AND HE SERVED 26 YEARS ON FOR THE CITY OF AUBURN.
SO HE STARTED HERE WHEN HE WAS ABOUT 20.
THAT'S PRETTY SMART, ISN'T IT? YEAH.
[5. AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS. (Part 1 of 2)]
OKAY, WE'LL MOVE AHEAD WITH, UH, UH, AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS.UM, FIRST I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT YESTERDAY, AUBURN'S IFC HOSTED AN EVENT CALLED BP WITH BT, WHICH STANDS FOR BATTING PRACTICE WITH BUTCH THOMPSON.
BASICALLY, EACH FRATERNITY VOLUNTEERED A BATTER AND THEY COMPETED IN A HOME RUN CONTEST WITH HEAD BASEBALL COACH BUTCH THOMPSON.
UM, THIS EVENT BENEFITED THE HUNTON FAMILY FOUNDATION, WHICH SUPPORTS FAMILIES AND CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY FACING ECONOMIC, PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS.
THEY WERE ABLE TO RAISE OVER $7,000, I THINK.
SO THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF OUR IFC FOR THAT.
UM, THIS WEEK IS SUPER, SUPER BUSY, AS IT IS OFFICIALLY CAMPAIGN WEEK FOR AUBURN UNIVERSITY.
UM, TODAY MARKS THE OFFICIAL SGA CAMPAIGN KICKOFF, AND STUDENTS ARE EXCITED TO SUPPORT THEIR PEERS WHO ARE RUNNING FOR ELECTED SGA POSITIONS.
UM, CON COURSING WILL TAKE PLACE ON WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK FROM 8:00 AM TO 3:00 PM UM, THE CANDIDATES FOR SGA PRESIDENT INCLUDE WILLIS ORR AND LANDON CHILDRESS.
CANDIDATES FOR SGA VICE PRESIDENT INCLUDE COLIN HALE AND LILY POOL.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE CANDIDATE FOR SGA TREASURER JACKSON MORRIS, SO LUCKY JACKSON
UM, AND THEN CANDIDATES FROM MISS AUBURN, THERE ARE FIVE.
THEY INCLUDE MEG THOMPSON, VIRGINIA ANN HOLMES, CAMILLA, LORD RILEY JOHNSON, AND ELIZA SUNBURG.
VOTING BEGINS FRIDAY AT 7:00 AM AND CONCLUDES AT 3:00 PM ON FRIDAY.
UM, AND THEN ELECTION RESULTS WILL BE ANNOUNCED AT 7:00 PM ON THE BACK STEPS OF CATER ONE.
UM, WE RE WE REALLY WISH LUCK TO ALL THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE COM THAT ARE RUNNING THIS WEEK, UM, AND EXCITED TO SEE WHO WILL GET TO LEAD AUBURN IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.
WE'RE REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE SO MANY STUDENTS THAT ARE WILLING TO PUT THEIR FOOT FORWARD AND GO OUT FOR THESE LEADERSHIP POSITIONS.
UM, AND THEN SATURDAY IS ALSO GOING TO BE A BIG DAY AS AUBURN FACES ALABAMA AND BASKETBALL.
UM, THIS GAME HAS BEEN DE DESIGNATED A CAMPING GAME, SO STUDENTS ARE ABLE TO, UM, RENT OUT A TENT AND THEN REGISTER THEIR TENT AND THEN CAMP OUT IN FRONT OF NEVILLE ARENA TO HOPEFULLY GET A SPOT IN THE STUDENT STUDENT SECTION.
UM, WE EXPECT A REALLY STRONG TURNOUT FOR THIS GAME AND AN EXCITING GAME ATMOSPHERE.
AND HOPEFULLY THERE'S AN AUBURN WIN.
[5. AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS. (Part 2 of 2)]
BACK, UH, DURING THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE,[00:15:01]
WE, WE DID HAVE ONE, UM, ACTION, UM, IF YOU CAN CALL THAT, THAT I'D ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO SET ASIDE SOME TIME AND OUR FIRST MEETING IN MARCH TO TALK ABOUT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THIS NEW BUILDING AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THE CITY OF AUBURN TO PARTICIPATE IN IN THAT.SO WE, UH, THEY AGREED TO DO THAT.
SO WE'LL HAVE THAT ON THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE FOR MARCH THE THIRD.
THIS, THIS TIME IS CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS ON ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
THIS IS ONLY ON ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
UH, YOU WILL NOTICE UNDER, UNDER ORDINANCES ITEMS A ONE AND A TWO AND A FIVE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ATTACHED.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT THAT, PLEASE WAIT UNTIL THAT TIME AS WELL AS THERE IS PUBLIC HEARINGS ATTACHED TO, UM, ITEMS 10, B ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.
SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL MOVE AHEAD.
[7. CITY MANAGER’S COMMUNICATIONS. ]
COMMUNICATIONS MAYOR UNDER CITY MANAGER'S COMMUNICATIONS THIS EVENING.UM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED PERIODIC STATUS UPDATES ON THE VARIOUS STUDIES AND ANALYSES THAT ARE BEING CONDUCTED DURING THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF MULTIPLE UNIT DEVELOPMENTS AND PRIVATE TO PRIVATE DORMITORY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE URBAN CORE AND URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD WEST ZONING DISTRICTS.
I'LL REMIND YOU THAT THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 18TH, 2025, AND IS SET TO EXPIRE ON NUM NOVEMBER 30TH, 2026 UNLESS EXTENDED OR REPEALED.
SO UNDER SANITARY SEWER ON DECEMBER 16TH, YOU APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH BARGE DESIGN SOLUTIONS TO CONDUCT THE WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM MASTER PLAN IN WHICH THE AREA ENCOMPASSED BY THE MORATORIUM FOOTPRINT WILL BE PRIORITIZED.
UM, STAFF HAS HAD A KICKOFF MEETING WITH BARGE DESIGN SOLUTIONS, UH, AND TO COMMENCE THE OVERALL PROJECT AND ALSO WITH A SPECIAL EMPHASIS ON THE MORATORIUM AREAS.
CURRENTLY, STAFF AND BARGE ARE WORKING TO SECURE APPROXIMATELY 40 SEWER FLOW MONITORS FOR INSTALLATION TO BEGIN THE ESSENTIAL DATA COLLECTION PHASE OF THE PROJECT.
THE INSTALLATION OF THESE FLOW MONITORS WILL INCLUDE A FOCUS ON THE MORATORIUM AREA UNDER STORMWATER.
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH NEIL SCHAFER INCORPORATED.
UM, WE'VE HAD A JOINT MEETING TO REVIEW AND REFINE A SCOPE FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO STORMWATER MODELING AND ANALYSIS, AGAIN, WITH A SPECIAL EMPHASIS, UH, ON THE MORATORIUM FOOTPRINT.
STAFF ANTICIPATES PLACING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT ON THE FEBRUARY 17TH AGENDA THAT COULD SLIDE TO MARCH 3RD, BUT WE'RE HOPING FOR FEBRUARY 17TH FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE CITYWIDE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
YOU APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY HOR AND ASSOCIATES ON DECEMBER 16TH, UH, TO PERFORM THIS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
UM, I'LL REMIND YOU, IT WAS TO INCLUDE A SPECIAL FOCUS AND ALSO AN IMMEDIATE FOCUS ON THE URBAN CORE AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE'VE ALSO HAD A KICKOFF MEETING WITH THEM, UM, TO INTRODUCE KEY STAFF AND REVIEW SCOPE AND KEY MILESTONES AND DELIVERABLES.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS, TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE GOING ON AND HAVE BEEN IN PROGRESS FOR SOME TIME.
UM, AND SO THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT JUST IN THE URBAN CORE AREA.
LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST IS A COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, EVALUATION AND UPDATE.
SO THE CITY HAS ALREADY CONTRACTED, AND THIS IS JUST AT, AT MY LEVEL, A SMALL CONTRACT, UH, WITH THE FIRM WHITE SMITH AND CASINO, IF THAT'S HOW YOU PRONOUNCE IT, JUSTICE, TO SUPPORT THE CITY TO PERFORM SERVICES, TO MEET WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND STAFF TO DEVELOP A CONCEPT TO ADDRESS COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE EVALUATION AND UPDATE.
UH, THEY'RE A FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN PLANNING AND CODE DEVELOPMENT WITH VAST EXPERIENCE TO ASSIST THE CITY WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THE STATE OF ALABAMA AND OTHER CITIES TO BRING BEST PRACTICE CONCEPTS TO THE CITY.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME PLANNING MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THE STRATEGY AND WILL SOON BE CONDUCTING WORKSHOPS WITH THE CONSULTANT.
ONCE COMPLETE WITH A CONCEPT STRATEGY, WE'LL NEGOTIATE A FINAL AGREEMENT WITH THIS CONSULTING FIRM TO ACTUALLY PERFORM THE FINALIZED ZONING WORK.
I'LL REMIND YOU THAT WE NEED OUTCOMES FROM SOME OF THE ENGINEERING AND OTHER STUDIES TO ALSO THEN RECOMMEND CHANGES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
IT'S CHANGES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE NEED TO BE HAPPENING IN GENERAL, BUT ALSO WE NEED DATA FROM THE SEWER ITEMS, STORMWATER ITEMS AND TRAFFIC ITEMS TO LOOK AT ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT MIGHT BE NECESSITATED FOR, UM, THE STUDY AREA OF THE MORATORIUM.
SO THAT'S OUR GENERAL UPDATE FOR NOW AND I'LL PROBABLY BE UPDATING YOU EVERY OTHER MONTH IF SOMETHING MAJOR COMES SOONER THAN I WILL UPDATE YOU ACCORDINGLY.
THANK ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE? OKAY.
CERTAINLY MIGHT GENERATE SOME QUESTIONS.
[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA.]
CONSENT AGENDA.OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS A CONSENT AGENDA.
DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WISH TO DEAL, UH, OR REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DEAL WITH THAT ITEM INDIVIDUALLY? JULIE, IT'S A WHOPPER OF A CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT.
NOT A RIGHT TO CHOOSE FROM TONIGHT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO MOVE SECOND.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED ORDINANCES.
[9.a.1. Pre-zoning. The Foundry at North College. Approximately 126.97 acres to Comprehensive Development District (CDD). Property located at the northwest corner of North College Street and Shug Jordan Road intersection. Public hearing required. Postponed from January 20, 2026.]
ALL RIGHT, BEAR WITH ME FOR A MINUTE 'CAUSE ALL OF THESE ORDINANCES ARE RELATED.[00:20:01]
9 8 1 9 8 2 9 8 3 9 84 AND 9 85 ARE ALL ASSOCIATED WITH THE FOUNDRY DEVELOPMENT.I'LL REMIND YOU THAT THE COUNCIL POSTPONED ALL ITEMS AT THE JANUARY 20TH MEETING TO SCHEDULE WORK SESSIONS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT.
WORK SESSIONS WERE HELD LATE LAST WEEK ON JANUARY 29TH AND 30TH.
THEY WERE IDENTICAL WORK SESSIONS, BUT BECAUSE OF COUNCIL AVAILABILITY, WE HELD IT OVER TWO DAYS.
STAFF IS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER HOLDING PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING AND POSTPONING ALL ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATED ITEMS TO A DATE CERTAIN OF MARCH 3RD TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TIME FOR COMPLETION AND REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO THEREFORE, ITEM NINE A ONE IS A REQUEST TO PRE-ONE APPROXIMATELY 126.97 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH COLLEGE STREET IN SUGE DURDEN PARKWAY, THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR APP FOR A DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS THE FOUNDRY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT ITS DECEMBER 11TH MEETING.
THIS ITEM WAS POSTPONED AT THE JANUARY 20TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
A MAIN MOTION IS STILL NEEDED FOR THIS ITEM AND A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.
I MOVE TO POSTPONE TO A DATE CERTAIN ON MARCH THE THIRD, 2026 SO THAT IT CAN RUN CONCURRENT WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
BUT I DO REQUEST THAT WE, UM, HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING BACK.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO POSTPONE TO MARCH THE THIRD, BUT, UH, TO GO AHEAD TONIGHT AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT OR JUST GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? WHAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO? YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO VOTE ON THE POSTPONEMENT.
WE NEED TO GO AHEAD VOTE ON THE POSTPONEMENT.
SO I WOULD PROBABLY JUST VOTE ON IT WHILE YOU HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
BUT IF YOU GUYS DON'T WANNA VOTE, YOU CAN ALSO HOLD THAT.
WE JUST NEED TO DO THAT BEFORE WE LEAVE THE ITEM.
IT'S AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.
WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD, VOTE ON THAT.
WOULD THAT BE A ROLL CALL? WOULD THAT BE A UH, NO.
SO ALL IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING UNTIL MARCH THE THIRD PLEASE SAY, AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND WE WILL POSTPONE TO MARCH THE THIRD.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THIS.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
I'M WARREN JOLLY WITH JOLLY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
UM, I KNOW WE HAD WORK SESSION THE OTHER WEEK AND YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO GO THROUGH IN GREAT DETAIL A LOT OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, REAL QUICK, I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT ME.
I GRADUATED AUBURN UNIVERSITY IN, UH, 1986 IN BUILDING SCIENCE.
RIGHT WHEN I GRADUATED, I SET UP JOLLY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IN BEEN DEVELOPING AND BUILDING THESE TYPE OF COMMUNITIES IN ATLANTA AND IN THE SOUTHEAST FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
UM, I ALSO HAVE MY, MET MY WIFE HERE AT AUBURN AND, UH, HAD TWO, UH, KIDS GRADUATE AUBURN TWO, ACTUALLY THREE KIDS GRADUATE AUBURN, TWO, TWO GIRLS AND ONE BOY AND TWO SON-IN-LAWS GRADUATE AUBURN.
UM, MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN AUBURN, UM, FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, OVER 30 YEARS WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN ATHLETICS, THE, UH, SCHOOL OF NURSING, UM, THE, UH, UH, SCHOOL OF BUILDING SCIENCE, THE BUSINESS CENTER, AND ALSO THE SCHOOL OF LIBERAL ARTS.
UM, SO WE, WE, WE'VE BEEN HERE A GREAT BIT.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE VERY FOND OF AUBURN AND WE WANNA DO A GREAT JOB.
WE'RE ALSO, MY SON AND I, UM, A COUPLE YEARS AGO ZONED, UM, A DEVELOPMENT IN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOMMY DAWSON'S DISTRICT THAT'S BEING DONE.
UM, THEY'RE CALLED DAWSON CORNER, WHICH IS THE AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY, A GATED COMMUNITY AND SWANS BRIDGE, WHICH WE BOUGHT THE SWANS MOBILE HOME PARK, WHICH I THINK IS ONE OF THE WORST CRIME RIDDEN AREAS,
AND SO, UH, WE TOOK THE MOBILE HOME PARK AND WE HAVE A NICE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE ALSO, UH, BUILT AND ZONED ASSISTED LIVING ACROSS THE CENTER OF, UH, UH, THE COX AND AND WIRE ROUNDABOUT.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE COMPLETED IN, IN, UH, MAY.
AND, UM, THAT'S TOTALLY LEASED UP, UM, ALREADY.
SO THAT'S REALLY A GOOD SOUNDING.
I THINK THE, THAT WHOLE AREA REDEVELOPMENT.
UM, WHAT WE, JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS WITH THE SELLERS.
WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SELLERS THAT COM COMPRISE THE 282 ACRES.
UM, NEITHER OF THEM OR NONE OF 'EM ARE VERY EASY TO DEAL WITH.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY MEMBERS, A LOT OF FAMILY PROPERTY, UH, A LOT OF FEELINGS, A LOT OF HISTORY THERE.
UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THESE TOGETHER.
WE ACTUALLY PUT ONE TOGETHER AND THEN WE WERE TOLD BY THE CITY THERE'S A, A CONNECTOR ROAD NEEDED TO BE PUT THROUGH, UH, TO THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS BASICALLY TO THE, TO THE EAST.
UM, AS WE SAT THERE, WE, WE STARTED LOOKING AT IT.
WE SAID, WELL GUYS, WE REALLY NEED TO, YOU CAN'T DEVELOP ONE OF THESE, YOU REALLY NEED TO PUT 'EM ALL TOGETHER.
SO UNFORTUNATELY THAT PUT 282 ACRES TOGETHER AND PUT THREE PROPERTIES TOGETHER, AND YOU DON'T PUT ALL THREE PROPERTIES TOGETHER.
YOU CAN'T BUILD THE ROAD THAT WE'LL GET TO.
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UM, I THINK IS OPENING IN 28.SO, UM, JUSTICE, CAN YOU PUT THE SLIDE UP IF YOU DON'T MIND? UM, YEP.
IT'S, IT'S, YOU'VE GOTTA GIVE US A SECOND WARM.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T USE THIS MUCH DURING COUNCIL.
UM, SO THERE, THERE, YOU'VE SEEN IT BEFORE THE OTHER WEEK AT THE, THE OWENS PIECE, WHICH IS 77 ACRES.
THE AUBURN PLACE, WHICH IS 50 ACRES.
UM, THOSE ARE THE TWO PIECES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
UM, ZONING, CD, UH, PREZONING, THE CDD, UM, THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY AT THE CURRENT TIME.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN LEE COUNTY.
UM, THE SCHOOL IS TO THE, THE LEFT OF THE OWENS PROPERTY.
UM, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, THERE'S A SCHOOL, YOU CAN SEE THE CONNECTOR ROAD THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER DAY.
UM, AND ALSO THIS PROPERTY HAS A SIGNIFICANT TOPO.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY, UM, IN ENGINEERING WITH BRETT BASKIN TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS ROAD CAN BE BUILT AND BE ABLE TO TELL YOU, UH, THE OTHER WEEK, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WAS GONNA WORK OUT.
UM, NEXT SLIDE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS OWENS AND AUBURN PLACE AGAIN.
THEY'RE NOT IN THE, IN THE CITY.
YOU CAN SEE VEDA WAS ANNEXED IN THE CITY A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
UM, AND THEN IT REVERTED BACK TO RURAL.
UM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE AUBURN PLACE IN OWENS, IF YOU SEE THE WHOLE CORRIDOR AROUND THE PARKWAY IS PRETTY MUCH, UH, WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO ZONE THIS TO IS C, DD, ALL THE PINK, UM, AROUND, UH, THE SCHOOL IS A BIG GREEN AREA TO THE LEFT OF OWENS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A SCHOOL.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR LOOPED AROUND, IT'S ALL ZONED CDD.
THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO ASK FOR, OR RESERVE ANY TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
ANYONE ELSE? IS, IS THIS APPROPRIATE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? YEAH, SURE.
DO YOU WANNA KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN OR DO YOU JUST WANNA WE'LL KEEP WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.
THAT MIGHT DRIVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO? YES, PLEASE.
MR. JOLLY, WOULD YOU COME BACK TO THE MICROPHONE? THANK YOU MR. JOLLY APPRECIATE IT.
UH, THIS IS QUITE A LARGE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF COURSE.
AND, UM, A LOT OF VEGETATION, TREES AND WHATNOT WILL HAVE TO BE CLEARED FOR IT.
WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR REMOVAL OF THE TREES? ARE YOU GONNA BURN CHIP, HAUL 'EM OFF, OR WHAT? IT, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE TIME OF YEAR THAT WE'RE GET STARTED WORKING.
OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'RE DURING THE WINTER, UH, BURNING'S NORMALLY NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO GET THE PRIOR PERMITS AND REGULATIONS, WHATEVER YOU DO.
UM, SO NORMALLY, UM, AND WE, WE ALSO HAVE BURNED WITH YOUR CURTAIN INSTRUCTURES THAT BASICALLY PLOW FORCED AIR IN A HOLE IN THE, AND BASICALLY YOU DON'T REALLY GET AS MUCH SMOKE.
AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES WE DO THAT, BUT WE, IF YOU REM YOU KNOW, WE'RE TIME IS MONEY, SO WE WANT TO GO WORK AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
SO THE QUICKER WE GET IT GONE IS THE BEST.
WE DON'T WANNA LEAVE A PILE THERE BURNING FOR A MONTH BECAUSE IT COSTS MONEY THE QUICKER WE CAN GET HER OUT.
THE ONLY ONLY THING ABOUT MULCH AND CHIPPING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE PUTTING A LOT OF TRUCKS ON THE HAUL, ON THE HIGHWAY, YOU KNOW, FROM A SAFETY ISSUE MM-HMM
BUT, BUT WE LOOK AT ALL, IT REALLY IS TIME OF YEAR.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN WE WOULD GET STARTED.
SO THE BLOWER THING IS A WAY TO MITIGATE THE, IT, IT, IT BURNS UP QUICKER AND IT REDUCES THE SMOKE.
AND IT BASICALLY TAKES THE, IT GENERATES HEAT BY THE AIR AND IT JUST INCINERATES IT A LOT QUICKER.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE BURNING LESS AND IT'S LESS SMOKE.
AND, AND A QUESTION FOR MEGAN.
THE BURN PILE'S SUPPOSED TO BE AS LARGE AS THE AUTOMOBILE, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, I HAVE A DIRECTOR MATTHEWS.
THANK YOU MR. JOE, WE'LL CALL YOU BACK.
DIRECTOR MATTHEWS, WE'VE BEEN A ADJUSTING FOR THAT LATELY BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
WE, WE HAVE BEEN, AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF A RULE OF THUMB, A GUIDELINE.
UH, WE HAVE INSPECTORS GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE BURN PILES BEFORE THEY'RE ISSUED A BURN PERMIT.
SO TYPICALLY, UH, DEVELOPERS, UH, ONCE THEY'RE CLEARING THE LAND, THEY HAVE LARGE FEEDER PILES AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE TYPICALLY SEE FROM THE ROAD OR THE LARGE FEEDER PILES.
AND THEN THEY MOVE SMALLER AMOUNTS OF THAT TO THE BURN PILE TO BURN, UM, OKAY.
SO IT IS A, IT IS A SMALLER PILE.
IT'S NOT THE LARGE PILES THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE FROM THE ROADWAY.
YEAH, I'VE SEEN SOME AS BIG AS A TWO STORY BUILDING AND THEY'RE ON FIRE, SO I'M, UH, SENSITIVE TO THAT.
UM, I HOPE WE CAN GET A COMMITMENT FROM BOTH THE DEVELOPERS AND THE, AND THE CITY TO, TO KEEP IT AT A, UH, APPROPRIATE LEVEL.
SO AS PART OF THE BURN PERMIT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO EXTINGUISH ANY FIRE THAT WE DEEM AS A HAZARD OR A NUISANCE TO THE AREA.
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ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY.ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, THEN I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY VOTED SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
[9.a.2. Rezoning. The Foundry at North College. Approximately 155.18 acres from Rural (R) to Comprehensive Development District (CDD). Property located on the west side of North College Street across from the Legacy subdivision. Public hearing required. Postponed from January 20, 2026.]
ITEM NINE A TWO IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 155.18 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH COLLEGE STREET ACROSS FROM THE KERRY CREEK PARKWAY IN THE LEGACY SUBDIVISION FROM RURAL TO COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS THE FOUNDRY.THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST THAT IT'S DECEMBER 11TH MEETING.
THIS ITEM WAS POSTPONED AT THE JANUARY 20TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
A MAIN MOTION IS NEEDED FOR THIS ITEM AND A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.
MOVE TO POSTPONE TO A DATE CERTAIN ON MARCH 3RD, 2026 TO RUN CONCURRENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND I ALSO ASK THAT A PUBLIC HEARING BE OPEN THIS EVENING.
SECOND MOTION IS SECOND TO MOVE THIS TO MARCH 3RD AS WELL AS OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR MEMBERS, THE COUNCIL OF WARREN JOLLY.
THIS IS THE OTHER PORTION THAT WE SAID WE VERY BACK TO RURAL, UH, THE VEDA TRACT.
IT WAS ON UH, PDD AND THEN IT DIDN'T GET DEVELOPED IN TIME, SO IT REVERTED BACK.
UM, JUST TO NOTE, THIS PIECE HAS, UM, A LOT OF FLOODPLAIN ON IT.
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TALKING THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE, UH, CONNECTION GREENWAY TRAIL BEAN.
UM, THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF HAS 114 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE WITHIN IT, WHICH IS ABOUT 41%.
UM, WHICH WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TREES, THERE'S A LOT OF TREES THAT WILL STILL BE THERE.
UM, EVEN SOME PEOPLE WOULD COULD LOG, YOU KNOW, FLOODPLAIN IN THAT AREA.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT, WE'RE LEAVING IT NATURAL.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.
I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT YOU TO GO AHEAD AND GET SAT DOWN.
COULD COULD WE GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES HERE? TYLER? WHICH ONE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? UM, THE ONE THAT HAD THE, THE ROAD OF THE, OH, THE WHOLE SITE PLAN GO UP.
THE WHOLE SITE PLAN TO THE, PROBABLY THE SECOND SLIDE.
OH, WELL IT, NO, IT, IT, IT IS FURTHER DOWN.
SORRY, I'M FUMBLING THROUGH THIS DOWN.
HOW WILL THE, SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE, THE, THE DIFFERENT PHASES IN WHICH THIS, IN WHICH YOU PLAN TO DEVELOP THIS? YES, SIR.
I, I, I HAVE SOME SLIDES OF THAT FURTHER IN THE YEAH, GO DOWN PUD, BUT I DON'T MIND DOING THAT.
YEAH, HE'S HE'S GOING TO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU PLAN I DROPPING HEAD.
ARE YOU GONNA TALK DURING THE PUD ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES.
SORRY, A COUPLE GO A COUPLE MORE SLIDES DOWN THE, IT'S THE ONE WITH THE ALL GREEN.
IS THAT ONE? NO, THERE'S ONE MORE.
GO, GO VERY BOTTOM RIGHT THERE.
SO THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T OVERLAP WITH SITE PLAN.
UM, SO WHERE PHASE, UM, WORKING WITH THE CITY, PHASE ONE WAS THE MAIN CONCERN WITH THE PARKWAY.
UM, THE BOULEVARD THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER WEEK ABOUT GETTING THROUGH THE CONNECTION POINT FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL TO ACROSS FROM PUBLIX, UM, PHASE TWO AND, AND, UM, THREE AND FOUR RIGHT THERE TOGETHER.
UM, MOST OF THAT LAND HAS TO BE GRADED TO BUILD THE ROAD.
AND THAT'S THE FRONT PART'S, MAINLY THE RETAIL PORTION.
SO NORMALLY YOU DON'T SEE THE RETAIL TILL LATER, BUT THE RETAIL'S UP FRONT AND THE MULTIFAMILY WILL GO OVER THE USE LATER.
BUT THAT AREA REALLY HAS TO BE GRADED AND TAKE THE DIRT TO BALANCE THE SITE TO BUILD THE ROAD.
AND SO THEN THE, THE BACK PIECES TO THE BACK WHERE YOU, UM, THREE, FIVE, AND SEVEN, THOSE WOULD BE DONE AFTER THE ROAD BUILT, WHICH IS A COUPLE YEARS.
AND, AND THEN YOU NEED TO BALANCE THE DIRT ON THOSE TWO AT THE SAME TIME.
AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS PROBABLY A FIF 10 TO 15 YEAR PROJECT OVER PHASES.
BUT THE PHASES ARE MAINLY DONE RIGHT NOW.
WHERE ARE WE GONNA START FIRST, BUT ALSO HOW TO BALANCE THE DIRT AND BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO SORT OF GOING TO WHAT KELLY HAD MENTIONED, LIKE THE, THE, THE FIRST PHASE OF GRADING WOULD BE THIS AREA IN FRONT OF THE, IN, IN, IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED ROAD.
THE ROAD IS ALMOST ON THE RIDGE, SO YOU REALLY DON'T SEE THE OTHER SIDE.
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SO, SO THE ROAD IS ALMOST ON THE RIDGE.SO EVERYTHING THERE TO THE PARKWAY WOULD BE DONE FIRST AND WHAT YOU'D SEE FIRST AND THEN A COUPLE YEARS LATER IT WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT ACTUALLY FROM THE MAIN ROAD.
MR. JOLLY IS THE TRAIL, THE WALKING TRAIL PART OF PHASE ONE? YES SIR.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THE ROAD AND THE TRAIL, THAT KIND OF THE ONE THAT GOES PARALLEL TO CREEK, THE EAST WEST CONNECTOR, IT'S A SEWER LINE NOW.
IT'S JUST PUTTING IN THE TRAIL ITSELF.
TO CLARIFY REAL QUICK WITH THE TRAIL, AND I'LL HAVE, UM, EITHER JUSTICE OR SCOTT WEIGH IN A PORTION OF IT AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD GO IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS WHAT HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IN THE CITY IS, IS FOR THE MORE WESTERN PORTION ABOVE THE HIGH SCHOOL AND, AND ON DOWN SPLITTING THE PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S TWO PIECES TO THAT AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU'D BE REVIEWING IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THAT'S WHERE HE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A PORTION AND WE WOULD BE MM-HMM
THE PUBLIC HEARING STILL OPENS.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? OKAY.
[9.a.3. Annexation. The Auburn Place, LLC (Mueller Property). Approximately 50 acres. Property located on the north side of Shug Jordan Parkway. Postponed from January 20, 2026.]
TO NUMBER THREE.ITEM NINE A THREE IS REQUEST TO ANNEX APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SUGE DURDEN PARKWAY AND WEST OF NORTH COLLEGE STREET FOR DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS THE FOUNDRY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT ITS DECEMBER 11TH MEETING.
THIS ITEM WAS POSTPONED AT THE JANUARY 20TH MEETING AND A MAIN MOTION IS STILL NEEDED.
I MOVE TO POSTPONE TO A DATE CERTAIN ON MARCH 3RD, 2026.
SECOND MOTION IS SECOND TO POSTPONE TO MARCH 3RD, 2026.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALRIGHT.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION CARRIES.
[9.a.4. Annexation. Owens Family Partnership, LLC. Approximately 76.97 acres. Property located directly north of Hickory Dickory Park, across from Shug Jordan Parkway. Postponed from January 20, 2026.]
A FOUR IS REQUEST TO ANNEX APPROXIMATELY 76.97 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SUGE JORDAN PARKWAY ACROSS FROM HICKORY DICKORY PARK FOR DEVELOPMENT, KNOWN AS THE FOUNDRY PLANNING COMMISSION.UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT ITS DECEMBER 11TH MEETING.
THIS ITEM WAS POSTPONED AT THE JANUARY 20TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND A MAIN MOTION IS STILL NEEDED.
MOVE TO POSTPONE TO A DATE CERTAIN ON MARCH 3RD, 2026.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO POSTPONE TO MARCH 3RD, 2026.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THAT MOTION CARRIES.
[9.a.5. Rezoning. The Foundry at North College PUD. Approximately 282 acres to Planned Unit Development (PUD) zoning district. Property located at the intersection of North College Street and Shug Jordan Parkway. Public hearing required. Postponed from January 20, 2026.]
9 85 IS A REQUEST TO APPLY THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT DESIGNATION KNOWN AS PUD TO APPROXIMATELY 282 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH COLLEGE STREET IN SUGAR DURDEN PARKWAY FOR DEVELOPMENT, KNOWN AS THE FOUNDRY.THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
THIS ITEM WAS POSTPONED AT THE JANUARY 20TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND A MAIN MOTION IS STILL NEEDED FOR THIS ITEM AND A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.
MOVE TO POSTPONE TO DATE CERTAIN ON MARCH 3RD, 2026 AND ASK THAT WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.
SECOND MOTION IS SECOND TO POSTPONE TILL MARCH THE THIRD, 2026, AS WELL AS OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THAT MOTION CARRIES THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC QUEUE.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL? YES, SIR.
MR. COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AGAIN, UM, WARREN JOLLY WITH JOLLY DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE WE GET REALLY INTO MEAT AND POTATOES OF THE, UH, THE ZONING APPLICATION.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TWO AND A HALF YEARS WITH THE, UH, SELLERS OF THESE THREE PROPERTIES AND BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH STAFF FOR WHY THE PUD ORDINANCE WAS BEING ADOPTED AND, AND DEVELOPED THAT WE THOUGHT THIS WAS THE PERFECT PROPERTY, UM, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THE FLOODPLAIN AND TOP TOPOGRAPHY AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE MIXTURE OF USES THAT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT CASE FOR A PUD.
UM, THAT WHEN THE ORDINANCE GOT ADOPTED, WE, IT HAD BEEN WORKING ALMOST NINE MONTHS WITH YOUR STAFF.
AND, UM, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE FIRST TIME WE SUBMITTED A PLAN.
THERE'S BEEN TIONS AND DISCUSSIONS ALONG THE WAY.
UM, IF, UM, JUSTICE YOU DON'T MIND GO TO THE ORIGINAL, THE CODE SITE LEAD TO WELL, IT'S, IT'S THE GENTLEMAN WITH THE, HE'S GOING THERE.
UM, YOU, YOU GOTTA CLICK ON THE, WHICH ONE DO WE WANT THE SHOW WARREN TO SHOW HIM WHICH ONE YOU'RE REFERRING? IT'S THE MIDDLE ONE WITH A, THAT ONE.
UM, SO, SO THIS IS BASICALLY A MIXTURE OF USES.
UH, YOU, YOU HAVE THE PHASE LINE OVER IT, BUT AS YOU COME IN, THERE'LL BE A, A A PARKWAY FROM, UH, SHOULD JORDAN PARKWAY UP TO THE ROUNDABOUT, WHICH WILL BE ON THE NEW COLLECTOR ROAD.
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THE NEW COLLECTOR ROAD WILL BE RUNNING BETWEEN THE HIGH SCHOOL AND LINING UP WITH THE PUBLIX ACROSS THE STREET.UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THERE'S A VERY STEEP INTERSECTION THERE.
UM, WE'VE, UH, GOT WITH ADOT ON BOTH, BOTH INTERSECTIONS AND THEY'VE AGREED WITH THE LOCATION.
UM, WE GET THE TRAFFIC STUDY BACK.
THERE'S PROBABLY, WE REQUIRE A SIGNAL ON ONE AND MAYBE A SIGNAL ON THE OTHER, UH, ONCE WE GET THE RETAIL BUILT.
BUT THE, THE AREA CLOSE TO THE MAIN PARKWAY IS, IS MULTIFAMILY OUT PARTIAL RETAIL OFFICE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S MORE NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE RETAIL.
UH, REALLY NOT BIG BOX LIKE A GROCER.
MAYBE A SMALL GROCERY, BUT IT IS NOT LIKE A PUBLIX OR KROGER, UH, THAT TYPE OR LOWE'S, THAT TYPE OF USE.
UM, AS YOU GET FURTHER BACK INTO DEVELOPMENT, THE, THE BUILDING TO THE LEFT ON THE PARKWAY OR MULTIFAMILY UNITS, WE'VE CAPPED THAT AT 625 TOTAL MULTIFAMILY UNITS ACROSS THE STREET IS ANOTHER PHASE.
AND THEN EVERYTHING TO THE BACK SAY, UM, LEFT AND RIGHT IS ALL THE MULTIFAMILY, UH, ALL THE SINGLE FAMILY TYPE COMPONENTS.
UH, A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOUSING TYPES.
UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND SCOOTING DOWN JUSTICE.
WE'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA TIME WITH A LOT OF STUFF.
UM, THE AREA MAP HERE SHOWS, UM, WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED IN THOSE CERTAIN AREAS.
SO AREA ONE IS THE MORE INTENSE, UH, AREA, WHICH WOULD BE RETAIL, UH, APARTMENTS OFFICE.
AREA TWO IS APARTMENTS, SAY OFFICE AREA THREE IS THE, UH, ALL THE DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL USES IN AREA FOUR.
SO YOU CAN'T BUILD, SAY, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN AREA ONE, BUT YOU CAN'T BUILD RETAIL IN AREA THREE OR FOUR.
SO IT, IT BASICALLY, WE HAVE A CAP OF EVERYTHING AND A NUMBER OF SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THAT'S WHERE IT GOES IN THOSE CERTAIN AREAS.
JUST IF YOU COULD GO TO THE, THE NIGHT IS A PERMITTED USE TABLE THAT MATCHES UP WITH THOSE AREAS.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY OUTTA THE ORDINANCE.
UM, MOSTLY IT ME MIMIC C, D, D, BUT WE REDUCED LIKE, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS.
THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THE STAFF WANTED TO REMOVE.
UM, CHURCHES, 'CAUSE CHURCHES HAVE DIFFERENT TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
UM, SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT USES THAT WE CAN DO IN THOSE AREAS.
UM, JUSTICE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST GO THROUGH ALL THAT OR THEN, UM, THIS IS AGAIN, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE PHASING PLAN, WHERE THINGS WERE LOCATED OVER THE, THE, THE LIFETIME OF THE PROJECT.
UM, THE NEXT MAP IS, UH, THE, THE MEETING THAT WE WANTED OUR STAFF SHOWING TO CONNECT THE ROAD, UM, AND WHAT PORTIONS ARE BEING BUILT BY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, WHAT PORTION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING WITH THE CITY.
UH, THEN THE NEXT RENDERINGS, IF YOU CAN SCROLL THROUGH THESE, THESE ARE VISIONS OF WHAT THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE RETAIL WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN THE NEXT BUNCH OF SLIDES ARE HOUSING THAT WE'VE, I'VE BUILT AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES.
THERE'S STACKED CONDOS, THERE'S TOWNHOUSES, THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY, THERE'S UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WHOLE DIFFERENT.
AND WHEN WE BUILD, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE LIFESTYLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY'RE NOT PRICE POINT NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, MEANING THAT THE HOA MAINTAINS ALL THE YARDS.
UH, IT'S A LOCKUP AND LEAVE TYPE LIFESTYLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN THE TWO COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE DOING IN.
THANK YOU MR. WE MIGHT HAVE SOME FURTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE THANK YOU.
I HAVE YOU GOT SOME QUESTIONS? I GO AHEAD AND STAY, COME ON BACK UP.
YOU'RE GETTING YOUR EXERCISE THIS EVENING.
UM, YOU MENTIONED, UM, BRIEFLY BUT THE H HO YOU WILL HAVE AN HOA THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL PIECES.
AND THOSE WILL BE, UM, WE'LL HAVE A MASTER ASSOCIATION ALSO.
SO THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE RETAIL AND THE MULTIFAMILY.
SO THEY SHARE DETENTION AND OTHER USES, SO, YOU KNOW, BY A COST SHARE AGREEMENT.
UM, BUT THERE WILL BE SEPARATE HOAS PER AREA, UH, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE ATTACHED HOUSING, THE EXTERIORS MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.
UM, SO WHEN YOU PAINT THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE PAINTING IT ALL AT ONE TIME, YOU'RE NOT HAVING A TOWN BUILDING THAT PEOPLE ARE PAINTING DIFFERENT TIMES MM-HMM
AND THEN WE ALSO DO THE, UM, JUST DESCEND WITH THE ROOF, BUT ALL THE EXTRA MAINTENANCE AND LANDSCAPING'S DONE BY THE HOA.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE SMALL LOTS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO OVER THERE AND YOU'LL GO OVER THERE AND IT'S ALL CUT ONE TIME, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU GOT A TWO FOOT OF GRASS ON ONE AND THE OTHER ONE'S BEING MAINTAINED.
AND WHEN THE HA THE HARDEST THING TO DO IS MAKE SOMEBODY MAINTAIN THEIR YARD.
I MEAN IT, YOU CAN'T REALLY TRESPASS AND DO IT.
SO WE, THE HOA MAINTAINS ALL THAT.
SO THEIR FEES ARE HIGHER THAN THEIR HOA FEES, BUT THEY'RE PAYING FOR THOSE SERVICES ANYWAY.
UM, SO WHEN THEY ACTUALLY QUALIFY A MORTGAGE, IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE OR HARDER TO QUALIFY, BUT YOU'RE
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NOT WORRYING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.IT'S A HIGHER STANDARD OF BEING MAINTAINED.
IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME SLIGHTLY JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WITH THE, UM, WITH THE SIZE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT DURING OUR WORK SESSION, WE, UM, TALKED ABOUT THE EXCHANGES AND RELIEF THAT ARE PART OF A-A-P-E-D-A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
UM, AND PART OF THAT IS ENHANCED ARCHITECTURE, WHICH I KNOW YOU'VE SHOWN SOME SLIDES HERE.
UM, BUT THAT IS A PART OF YOUR OBLIGATION FOR IF THIS WOULD BE TO BE APPROVED, IS ENHANCED ARCHITECTURE.
WE, WE'VE AGREED WITH STAFF WITH CONDITIONS ON THE RETAIL AND ALSO THE, UH, THE HOUSING TYPE, WHAT, WHAT THE EXTERIORS, THE TYPE OF MATERIAL AND HOW THEY WOULD BE DONE.
AND LIKE THERE'S NO VINYL SIDING.
THERE'S EVEN IN THE EASE, WE USE ALL HARDY IN A MIXTURE OF BRICK AND STONE TYPE MATERIALS.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A CONDITIONS WITH THE RETAIL AND WHAT, UM, ANOTHER, UM, BENEFIT TO THE CITY IS THAT, UM, IT, IT MAY NOT SOUND LIKE A BENEFIT, BUT A SINGLE DEVELOPER, WHICH MEANS LESS, UM, STAFF TIME TO GO BACK AND FORTH FOR MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY YOU WILL PROVIDE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE GREENWAY CON CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS A, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ABOUT A LITTLE OVER TWO MILES ON THE NORTH END.
SO THERE'S THE EAST AND WEST ONE AT THE TOP, AND THEN THERE'S THE ONE ON THE FURTHEST WEST END THAT RUNS NORTH SOUTH.
UH, AND SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE CONSTRUCTING THE ONE ON THE NORTH THAT GOES EAST, WEST AND THEN THEY'LL BE DEDICATING THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THE ONE THAT GOES NORTH TO SOUTH.
AND CUMULATIVELY IT'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILES FOR BOTH OF THEM.
WHICH WOULD IN ESSENCE BE ONE OF THE LARGEST GREENWAY TRAILS WITHIN THE CITY.
AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER, UM, BENEFIT OR EXCHANGE TO THE CITY WOULD BE THE MAJOR ROADWAY EXTENSION.
UM, WHICH WOULD HELP TO MOVE THE POTENTIALLY TRAFFIC OFF OF NORTH DONAHUE AND, UM, THE HIGH SCHOOL TRAFFIC, WHICH IS A DIFFICULT THING TO ATTAIN RIGHT AWAY FOR THAT MUCH LAND IF WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO'S WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT AND ALSO SUPPORT COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.
I, I, I THINK, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING ON, THAT'S KIND OF BACK TO THE SINGLE DEVELOPER ASPECT OF IT, OF, YOU KNOW, WITH SO MANY MOVING PARTS AND THE COMPLEXITY OF, IT'S MUCH EASIER WHEN WE HAVE A SINGLE DEVELOPER.
THAT WAY YOU CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT THE SEC ROAD SECTIONS NEED TO LOOK LIKE AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF GET IT ALL IN ONE FAIL SWOOP INSTEAD OF PIECEMEAL DEVELOPMENT OF KIND OF IN ONE SECTION AND ANOTHER SECTION THAT MAY NOT ADJOIN IN THE ROADS MAY NOT ALIGN.
AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS MR. JOLLY THAT YOU GET TO, UM, RECEIVE IS, UM, INCORPORATIONS AND PRIVATE STREETS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE BULK REGULATIONS THAT WILL ADDRESS THE ISR AND THE FAR TO SUPPORT, UM, MORE CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT.
WITH 41% OF THE SPACE BEING, UH, OPEN SPACE MM-HMM
AND, YOU KNOW, WE FELT LIKE THE IR AND STUFF WAS A FAIR TRADE OFF BECAUSE YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE MANY DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY DON'T DONATE 40% OF THE SPACE ANYWAY.
AND SO, UM, IT MAY BE 20% OR LESS, AND THEN YOU'RE DOING THE ISR, BUT WE STILL HAVE AN IR REGULATION, BUT WE ASKED FOR SOME HELP ON THAT, WHICH WE'VE WORKED THAT WITH STAFF.
AND BASED OFF OF THIS THE, UM, ACREAGE, UM, OF, IF THIS WERE ZONED CDD, THE PROPOSED UNITS IS LESS THAN WHAT CDD WOULD BE, WOULD ALLOW.
SO CDD WORKS OUT TO ABOUT NINE AND A HALF, OR IT IS NINE AND A HALF.
THIS IS ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF, UH, UNITS PER ACRE.
BUT MUCH MORE DENSE AND CLOSER IN TO ALLOW FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE 114 ACRES.
I JUST FELT LIKE THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO GO THROUGH.
JUST FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT MAYBE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, I KNOW WE'VE HAD TWO WORK SESSIONS RIGHT.
AND POSTPONED ALREADY, SO I DIDN'T WANT THAT TO GET MIXED, GET LOST WITHIN THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
QUICK QUESTION ON THE ROAD, THE MAIN ROAD FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL OVER TO COLLEGE, THAT'LL BE A CITY ROAD, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.
THAT'S, IT'LL BE A, WE'LL MAINTAIN THE MAIN THROUGH FARE.
AND YOU'RE JUST DOING THE PRIVATE ROADS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT? YEAH, WE WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO 'EM.
WE HAVEN'T DECIDED WHERE THEY'RE AT, BUT THE ROAD, THE, THE ROAD COMING OFF THE MAIN PARKWAY TO THE ROUNDABOUT THROUGH THE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE PUBLIC ALSO.
UM, BUT THE, THE MAIN PARKWAY OBVIOUSLY IS PUBLIC.
WHEN, WHEN WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, YOUR PORTION OF THIS CONNECTOR ROAD WOULD BE FINISHED? WE'RE WORKING THROUGH HOW THAT WORKS.
UM, SO WE, WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED THAT.
SO THE DISCUSSIONS ARE NOW THAT WE WOULD, UM, UNLESS IT CHANGES, WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THIS.
OR SHOULD I WELL, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH ON THE DEVELOPMENT
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AGREEMENT.SO WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS MR. JOLLY HAD MENTIONED IN SOME WORK SESSIONS, UH, THEY WILL BE DOING A LOT OF THE MASS GRADING, THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF A LOT OF ASPECTS OF YARBOROUGH FARMS BOULEVARD IS LIKELY AND NOT FINALIZED YET TO BE A CITY LET CONTRACT THAT A LOT OF HIS FISCAL CONTRIBUTION WILL COME IN RIGHT OF WAY AND OVERALL MASS GRADING, UM, AND DEALING WITH SOME, WORKING WITH HIM ON MASS GRADING THAT HELPS US WITH SOME UTILITY THINGS AND CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS AND ALL OF THAT.
THE CITY WOULD THEN STEP IN AND COMPLETE ASPECTS OF IT, OF OUR, AS OUR PORTION.
BUT THAT'S NOT FINALIZED YET IN A, IN AGREEMENT.
I, I WANT TO TELL YOU, WITH YOUR POSTPONEMENT, THE INTENT STILL ISN'T AS SOON AS WE GET A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT MR. JOLLY IS SATISFIED WITH AND STAFF IS IT IS TO GET IT TO YOU JUST AS A MATTER OF INFORMATION PRIOR TO YOUR, YOUR MARCH 3RD PACKETS COMING OUT.
THE SOONER THAT WE HAVE IT READY, WE WILL SHARE IT WITH THE COUNCIL SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO READ IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BEFORE WE GET THERE.
I, I JUST WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS, SOME OF THE PARTS OF THE ROAD ARE CHANGING GRADES 30 TO 60 FEET MM-HMM
AND IT IS NOT JUST BUILDING A FLAT ROAD ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT, AND SO YOU'RE HAVING TO GET DIRT FROM OTHER PLACES AND SWAP.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED THROUGH IT WITH STAFF.
WE HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS HOW TO DO IT, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW MOST OF WHAT I'LL BE CONTRIBUTING WOULD BE GOING UP FRONT.
AND WE'LL GET YOU A BETTER TIMELINE FOR WHAT WE THINK THAT IS.
I THINK IT'S IN WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS YEAH.
IS JUST, WHEN IS THE COMPLETION DATE OF THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL WHEN THEY'RE OPENING IN THE FALL OF 28? UM, I DON'T WANNA ANYBODY TO THINK THAT THIS ROAD WILL BE READY IN THE FALL OF 28.
I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE, UNLESS MY STAFF OVERRULES ME THAT WE THINK THAT'S FEASIBLE AT THE MOMENT.
I WOULDN'T WANNA COMMIT TO THAT AT THIS TIME.
I THINK IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES THAT, THAT, UH, HAVE TO COME INTO PLAY AND I, YEAH, I DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA COMMIT TO THAT.
'CAUSE WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED ON, ON THIS AND WE DIDN'T EVEN START A DESIGN.
AND I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT IF THE COUNCIL AGREES IT WILL FOLLOW ON THE HEELS OF THE HIGH SCHOOL OPENING, BUT IT COULD BE A YEAR TO TWO YEARS IN EASILY.
SORRY, MR. JOLLY, I GOT ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.
I I COULDN'T CATCH YOU BEFORE YOU SAT DOWN, SO I APOLOGIZE.
WHAT, WHAT, HOW PROJECT, UH, THIS, HOW SHOVEL READY IS THIS PROJECT, I GUESS UPON APPROVAL HERE.
WHAT'S YOUR ANTICIPATED TIMELINE MOVING FORWARD ON GETTING STARTED WITH THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF THIS? I MEAN, UM, I'M VERY SUPERSTITIOUS, SO WE REALLY HAVE NOT MET WITH ANY RETAIL PROSPECT.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE APPROACH US.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE GOTTA GET ZONED.
UM, A LOT OF TIMES RETAILERS TAKE A, A WHILE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, A BANK AND A SMALL GROCERY, A SMALL FITNESS THINGS APPROACHES.
KEVIN HOWARD'S BEEN VERY GREAT KEEPING US UP COMMUNICATE, BUT WE, UNTIL WE REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE CAN'T REALLY COMMIT.
BUT FROM STARTING THE PROJECT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MET WITH BRETT BASKIN BEFORE AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING IN 30 DAYS THAT WE CAN START ENGINEERING, WE HAVE ALL THE DATA, GOOD TOPO, GOOD SURVEYS THAT WE CAN START IMMEDIATELY DESIGNING THE ROAD IN THOSE TWO COMMERCIAL PHASES IMMEDIATELY TO HOPEFULLY HAVE A PERMIT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME IN MID-SUMMER, LATE SUMMER OKAY.
AND THEN LONG TERM, WHO TYPICALLY WHO OWNS OR MANAGES THE COMMERCIAL PIECE OF, OF, OF THIS LONG TERM? THE MASTER DECLARANT, WHICH WOULD BE US.
SO Y'ALL TYPICALLY HOLD AND, AND RIGHT.
ARE YOU SURE OR YOU WANNA STEP AWAY?
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN GENERAL OR COMMENTS? UM, MR. CROUCH, WE WERE TALKING TODAY THAT IT'S, UM, THERE'S BEEN A AN DID YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? YOU DID, YEAH, YOU DID BEFORE YOU ASKED HIM.
THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE EFFORTS, UH, OVER FOR MANY YEARS TO TRY TO BRING THE TWO PIECES THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY INTO THE CITY.
UM, COULD YOU SPEAK JUST HOW SUBSTANTIAL THAT IS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR THIS TO POTENTIALLY TO OCCUR? YEAH.
SO BOTH, BOTH PARCELS AND WE KNOW, UM, ONE PARCEL MORE TO THE WEST THAT I REFER TO AS, AS BEING ACROSS FROM HICKORY DICKORY PARK.
A LOT OF US, UH, KNOW THAT AS OWENS FAMILY PARTNERSHIP PROPERTY AND THE OWENS FAMILY FOR MANY YEARS HAS WORKED METHODICALLY.
THEY OWNED AT A POINT IN TIME ALL FOUR CORNERS OF SUGE, JORDAN PARKWAY AND NORTH DONAHUE DRIVE.
AND METHODICALLY AND CAREFULLY THE FAMILY HAS SOLD PIECES FOR VARIOUS AND SUNDRY DEVELOPMENTS.
THERE'S A PIECE JUST BELOW THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT IS UNDER THE CONTROL OF A, OF A DIFFERENT GROUP THAT IS WORKING ON A DEVELOPMENT THERE THAT WILL COME FORWARD FAIRLY SOON.
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THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A REMNANT PIECE BETWEEN, UM, WHAT I KNOW IS AS THE MUELLER PROPERTY, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW IT AS THE AUBURN PLACE, LC PROPERTY, WHICH IS, YOU CAN SEE AT THE, THE CORNER OF SUGE JORDAN PARKWAY AND EAST UNIVERSITY DRIVE SLASH SUGE.UM, NORTH COLLEGE THERE IS A PIECE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE DARK GREEN ON IT AND THE DRAWING AND THAT WILL BE REMAIN OUT.
THAT IS PART OF THE MUELLER'S PROPERTY, OUR AUBURN PLACE PROPERTY.
AND THAT IS NOT IN THE PROJECT AT THIS TIME AND BEING HELD OUT IN RESERVE.
AND WE'VE HAD FRIENDLY CONVERSATIONS FOR YEARS WITH, WITH BOTH FAMILIES, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN A RIPE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, IN 2019, THE OPPORTUNITY AS THE STAFF REVIEWED PRIOR TO 2019, THE MAJOR STREET PLAN, SEEING THAT WE HAD, UM, ACTIVITY ON THE NEVADA PROPERTY WHERE IT SAYS MOSTLY OPEN SPACE ON UNDER DRAWING HERE.
UM, AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENT WE SEE AROUND IT AND THE CONSTANT CONCERNS ABOUT SUGAR DURDEN PARKWAY.
WE THOUGHT WITH LARGE PROPERTY OWNERS, WE'D HAVE A CHANCE AT GETTING THIS ROAD THROUGH MR. PICK, UM, ON THE PICK PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PUBLIX HAS, KERRY CREEK PARKWAY IS THE BEGINNING OF A ROAD THAT'S GONNA GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH EVENTUALLY, AS THAT DEVELOPMENT COMPLETES TO SHEL SHELTON MILL ROAD.
AND SO OUR GOAL WAS IN ESSENCE FROM RICHLAND ROAD ALL THE WAY, UM, TO SHELTON MILL ROAD.
YOU CAN WALK AND BIKE AND NOT DRIVE FAST, PARTICULARLY THROUGH THE AU CLUB AND THE 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMITS WITH PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS THERE.
BUT YOU CAN GET FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER WITHOUT GETTING ON SH JORDAN PARKWAY, WHICH WOULD BE A NICE RELIEF FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, ALSO WITH THE STORIED HISTORY, THE CITY STAFF REMAINS CONCERNED ABOUT ASPECTS OF, OF THE FACT THAT THE CITY DOES NOT OWN NORTH COLLEGE STREET, UM, IN THIS VICINITY NOR SU DURDEN PARKWAY, NOR PARTS OF SOUTH COLLEGE STREET.
THEY'RE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE STATE OF ALABAMA.
AND WE ARE LOOKING, UM, FOR WAYS TO PARTNER WITH THE STATE WHERE THE CITY GAINS CONTROL OF THAT, UM, TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO SLOW SPEED LIMITS DOWN AND SO ON.
AND THAT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
UM, THE ALABAMA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS BEEN AMENABLE TO TALKING ABOUT IT, AND WE'RE DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE, UM, THAT THEY'VE EVEN BEEN OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT IT.
BUT I HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THE NEARLY 30 YEARS I'VE WORKED HERE TO GET THESE PROPERTIES ASSEMBLED.
UM, THEY'RE VERY MUCH IN TOWN AT THIS STAGE, AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS NOT HAVE BIG PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY IN THIS LOCATION.
BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE.
PROPERTY OWNERS GOOD TO WORK WITH, BUT WE WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE IN THE CITY LIMITS WHERE OUR CITIZENS KNOW WHAT'S GOING THERE.
AND THIS IS A MASTER PLAN THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT WOULD TELL YOU WHAT COULD GO THERE SO PEOPLE KNOW BEFORE THEY BUY WHAT COULD GO THERE.
AND MS. CROUCH, I KNOW WE'RE NOT TO THE FINISH LINE, UH, WE'VE STILL GOT WORK TO BE DONE, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST MAJOR DEVELOPMENT WE'VE HAD THAT'S UNDERGONE THROUGH THE PUD PROCESS.
WOULD, WOULD YOU AND YOUR STAFF CONSIDER THIS TO BE WHAT WE PLANNED ON IT BEING? HAS IT SERVED THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY AS WE WANTED IT TO SERVE? HAS IT DELIVERED WHAT WE WANTED IT TO DELIVER? UH, AND KNOW WE'RE NOT DONE? NO.
THE PUD PROCESS IS BOTH FOR VERY, VERY SMALL PARCELS AND, AND VERY LARGE PROJECTS.
AND WHAT WE HAD AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UM, PROCESS THAT ONLY ALLOWED 10 ACRE PARCELS.
AND WHAT WE WERE HEARING FROM DEVELOPERS AND CITIZENS IS WE'RE NOT SEEING ALL THE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN AUBURN, UM, FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT, FROM A AMENITY STANDPOINT AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD GOTTEN FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE WAS, YOUR REGULATIONS MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS THE CITIZENS WOULD LIKE DONE.
SO THE GOAL HERE IS THIS IS PURELY A CONTRACT, UM, BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, NOT EVEN THE DEVELOPER.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THIS GETS APPROVED, IT IS BINDING UPON THE PROPERTY REGARDLESS OF WHO ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, IF MR. JOLLY WERE TO, TO TO SELL IT, WHICH HE'S NOT SAYING HE'S GOING TO DO.
IT'S BINDING UPON ANYBODY WHO OWNS IT.
THEY'VE GOTTA DO THESE PLANS AS IT GIVES US THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING, UM, SOME DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES AND OTHER THINGS WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY SEE.
OUR ZONING ORDINANCE STRUGGLES TO KEEP UP WITH CURRENT HOUSING TRENDS AND THINGS OUR CITIZENS WANT.
UM, AND THIS WAS PART OF THE GOAL HERE, WAS TO PROVIDE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
HOWEVER, THE CITY COUNCIL'S UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO, TO ADOPT A PLAN FOR THIS.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS, UM, TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UH, GRANTED TO YOU BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE UNLESS THE COUNCIL AGREES TO IT, PERIOD.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS? OKAY, LET'S
[10.a.1. D&J Enterprises, Inc. FY26 Resurfacing Project. $4,423,566.66.]
MOVE AHEAD TO RESOLUTIONS.ITEM 10 A ONE AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT WITH D AND J ENTERPRISES IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,423,566 AND 66 CENTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 RESURFACING PROJECT, MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IF SOMEBODY IS CURIOUS AS TO WHAT STREETS OR ROADS ARE, UM, INCLUDED, THERE'S A LIST AND THAT CAN BE FOUND ON THE WEBSITE.
AND IF I MAY, I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU AT PACKET MEETING, THAT ONE PORTION OF GAY
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STREET IS NOT ON THIS LIST THAT WILL, UM, BE HANDLED ACCORDINGLY.AND THAT IS THE PORTION THAT IS RUNNING FROM THATCH TOWARD THE HEART OF AUBURN DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE HAVE SOME BUMPS IN THE ROAD DUE TO UTILITY CONNECTIONS THERE AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CITIZENS REACH OUT AND JUST SAY IT'S A LITTLE BUMPY HERE AND SO THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ADDED IN.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION CARRIES.
[10.a.2. ProLogic ITS, LLC. Purchase of equipment and installation for eleven (11) police vehicles. Police Department. $198,878.54.]
10 82 AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT WITH PRO LOGIC I-T-S-L-L-C IN THE AMOUNT OF $198,878 AND 54 CENTS FOR THE PURCHASE OF VEHICLE UPFIT EQUIPMENT AND INSTALLATION FOR 11 POLICE VEHICLES.ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YES, I, I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS, PLEASE.
UM, IN THE PROPOSAL, SOME ITEMS ARE NOTED AS CONTRACTED AND SOME ITEMS ARE AS NON-CONTRACTED.
ARE THE WHAT? FIRST OFF, WHY, WHY IS IT BROKEN OUT THAT WAY? UH, MR. MATTHEW'S RESPONSE.
SO THE QUOTE WAS DEVELOPED, UH, UNDER THE MASTER CON, THE MASTER STATE CONTRACT THAT, UH, PROLOG HAS WITH THE STATE PURCHASING OFFICE.
AND THE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED ARE PART OF THAT MASTER CONTRACT AND THEN THE OTHER PARTS ARE AT STANDARD PRICING.
SO THEY ALL ROLL UP TO THE SAME IN, IN TOTAL THEY DO, BUT TYPICALLY WE GET A BETTER DISCOUNT ON THE ITEMS THAT ARE MM-HMM
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION CARRIES.
[10.b.1. Bloomfield Holdings, LLC. 810 MLK, LLC. NEOH Holdings, LLC. Public Ingress, Egress, Drainage and Utility Easement. Gidden Street.]
TO THE VACATION OF A PORTION OF THE PUBLIC INGRESS EGRESS DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT LOCATED ON GIDEN STREET AND FURTHER AUTHORIZES THE MARIN CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A QUICK CLAIM DEED RELINQUISHING THE PROPERTIES TO 8 1 0 M-L-K-L-L-C AND NEOH HOLDINGS.LLCA PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
THIS TIME I'LL VOTE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL, SO YOU NO ONE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 10, B2 SINCE
[10.b.2. Bloomfield Holdings, LLC. 810 MLK, LLC. NEOH Holdings, LLC. Public Utility Easement. Gidden Street.]
THE VACATION OF THE VACATION OF A PORTION OF A UTILITY EASEMENT LOCATED ON GIDEN STREET AND FURTHER AUTHORIZES THE MARIN CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A QUICK CLAIM DEED RELINQUISHING THE PROPERTIES TO 8 1 0 M-L-K-L-L-C AND NEOH HOLDINGS, LLCA PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.
SO YOU KNOW, ONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNSEL? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION CARRIES.
[10.b.3. Bloomfield Holdings, LLC. 810 MLK, LLC. NEOH Holdings, LLC. Public Water Easement. Gidden Street.]
B THREE IS SENT TO THE VACATION OF A PUBLIC WATER EASEMENT LOCATED ON GIDEN STREET AND FURTHER AUTHORIZES THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A QUICK CLAIM DEED RELINQUISHING THE PROPERTIES TO 8 1 0 M-L-K-L-L-C AND NEOH HOLDINGS, LLCA PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.SECOND MS. TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.
SO YOU KNOW, ONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION CARRIES.
MAYOR, THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS OF BUSINESS WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING.
[12. CITIZENS' OPEN FORUM.]
OPEN CITIZENS OPEN FORUM IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT ANYTHING.NOW WOULD BE THE TIME FOR YOU TO COME FORWARD.
PLEASE SHARE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
PLEASE ADDRESS ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS.
TO THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS LIZ STRAIN.
UM, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN AUBURN.
AND I'M NOW A PRACTICING LAWYER HERE.
AND, UM, SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP TO THE COUNCIL AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS DEVELOPMENT, I WAS RAISED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND I KNOW THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED FOR THAT.
BUT I WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AS AUBURN IS DEVELOPING AND GROWING, UM, SOMETHING THAT I KNOW IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AND IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO SEVERAL OTHER CITIZENS THAT I'VE TALKED TO IS CONSIDERING THE GREENERY AND THE TREES.
UM, I KNOW AS A CITIZEN I'VE SEEN, WE'VE SEEN LOTS OF CHANGES IN AUBURN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CLEAR CUTTING AND THE THING THAT'S GOING ON.
UM, AND I WOULD JUST LOVE FOR THE COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE MOVING INTO REWRITING THE ZONING ORDINANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT YOU WOULD JUST CONSIDER, UM, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS, ALWAYS BEEN A TREE CITY.
AND MY DAD ACTUALLY CAME AND TALKED TO YOU GUYS LAST, LAST MEETING
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AND JUST UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO US.AND AS A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL, LIKE I MOVED TO NASHVILLE FOR LAW SCHOOL AND I WAS SO EXCITED TO BE BACK IN AUBURN.
IT'S MY FAVORITE PLACE IN THE WORLD.
I MEAN, AND I HOPE THAT ME BEING HERE SHOWS THE COUNCIL JUST HOW MUCH PEOPLE IN MY AGE DEMOGRAPHIC LOVE AUBURN, PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT MARRIED WITH CHILDREN, BUT PEOPLE THAT ARE YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, YOUNG LAWYERS.
AND UM, SOMETHING THAT REALLY BROUGHT ME BACK TO AUBURN WAS THE WILDLIFE, THE NATURE, THE GREENERY, THE TREES.
WHO WOULD BE NEXT? I NEED THREE HOURS TO GO OVER ALL THIS NOW.
I'M ROBERT WILKINS, 2 61 SSON DRIVE, AUBURN, ALABAMA.
I'M ONE OF THE MANY AUBURN VOICE THAT HAS BEEN DISMISSED.
I STARTED ON A SIMPLE JOURNEY IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR CONCERNING THE EXTREMELY ELEVATED LINE ITEMS OF SALARY AND WAGES AND EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FOR SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT.
WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TO SAY I FIRST WENT IN AND I WENT FROM 2009 ALL THE WAY TO 2024, 16 YEARS.
UH, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE THREE PAGES THAT ARE IN EACH COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.
AND I WANTED TO QUICKLY EX EXPLAIN WHY AFTER I DO THIS, UH, OPERATING EXPENSES, IT HAS THINGS LIKE SALARY AND WAGES, EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, THE TWO THAT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, UTILITIES, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, UH, RENTAL LEASING, INSURANCE OFFICE SUPPLIES, FUEL AND LUBRICANTS, AGRICULTURAL CHEMICALS, MINOR EQUIPMENT, UH, REPAIR PARTS AND MATERIALS, CLOTHING AND LINEN, UH, MANAGEMENT FEES, DEPRECIATION, AMORTIZATION, TRAVEL AND TRAINING.
MISCELLANEOUS, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED.
I NEEDED TO HAVE TWO OF THESE ITEMS OUTTA 17.
INSTEAD, WE HAD A MEETING ON JUNE THE 11TH AND I APPRECIATE BETH PUTTING THAT MEETING TOGETHER WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS ALL I GOT WAS FOUR ITEMS. ADMINISTRATIVE, RECYCLING, SOLID WASTE, AND GENERAL OPERATION.
NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THESE, IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF REPORT, BUT I NEEDED THIS AND I JUST WANTED TWO ITEMS FOR FIVE MONTHS OF 2025.
WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT 2 0 9 ALL THE WAY TO TWO 20, UH, TWO, IT, IT JUST KIND OF GOES LIKE THIS.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS, UH, IN 23, BAM, IT WENT LIKE THAT.
AND I KNOW 25 IS WAY UP THERE AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT.
I'VE ASKED FOR THAT INFORMATION FOR TWO LINE ITEMS, ORIGINALLY FOR FIVE MONTHS.
NOW I KNOW WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FOUR OVER FOUR MONTHS INTO THE YEAR ENDING SO I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT FOR SOME REASON OUR CITY MANAGER WILL NOT GIVE THAT INFORMATION.
I THEN HAD TO GO AND DO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS AND I DID A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ONES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO I DID ALL THESE DIFFERENT, UH, REPORT, I MEAN, UH, THINGS.
THEN OF COURSE I DEALT, DEALT WITH UH, DAVID DORTON, WHICH WAS GREAT.
BUT THEN I DEALT WITH PAUL CLARK, WHICH WAS FOR NO REASON.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHY SHE DID THAT.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHY I HAD TO DEAL WITH PAUL CLARK.
I DEALT WITH DAVISON, DAVISON UMBACH I GUESS.
AND UH, FORBES AND I WENT TO HIS OFFICE AND FOUND OUT, HE SAID HE'S HERE IN THE CITY.
HE GOES THERE AND, AND I'M HAVING TO DEAL WITH HIM.
BUT I CAME MEET WITH THEM 'CAUSE THE CITY MANAGER WON'T LET ME MEET WITH THEM ORIGINALLY.
I DIDN'T BRING ANY SLIDES OR ANYTHING WITH ME SO IT WON'T TAKE BUT A MOMENT.
I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE LEE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
UH, I REALLY WANNA TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AND THE CITY FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THE, UH, LEE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE ARE IN OUR DISTRICT, THE LEE COUNTY IS OUR SECOND BUSIEST, UH, FACILITY IN OUR DISTRICT.
UM, WE DO PROBABLY OVER 4,000 EXAMS A YEAR ON PATIENTS THAT WOULD NOT BE SEEN ANYWHERE ELSE.
UM, WE DID 1800, UM, RESTAURANT INSPECTIONS LAST YEAR.
SO THE THINGS THAT WE TOUCH ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THEY DON'T GET DONE UNLESS WE HAVE LOCAL SUPPORT.
WE ARE, WE DO HAVE STATE AND FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAMS, BUT WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE IN LEE COUNTY THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THIS CITY COUNCIL, THIS CITY OF OPELIKA
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AND OF OF THE LEE COUNTY COMMISSION AS WELL.UM, WE DO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.
WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO SEE PATIENTS THAT, THAT CAN'T GET IT THROUGH THE CARE ANYWHERE ELSE.
WE ALSO NOW DO A LARGE PORTION OF, UH, CANCER DETECTION AND WE WERE ABLE TO NOW DO COLONOSCOPIES IN LEE COUNTY THAT WE USED TO HAVE TO SEND THESE PATIENTS TO BIRMINGHAM.
SO THOSE THINGS, THOSE GROWTH, THOSE ABILITIES TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES ARE ONLY POSSIBLE WHEN WE RECEIVED THE SUPPORT OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
SO I JUST WANNA TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS NEED FROM US, JUST FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.
UM, COUNCILWOMAN WHITTEN WAS KIND ENOUGH TO COME TO OUR HUNDRED 50TH ANNIVERSARY OPEN HOUSE LAST YEAR.
UM, AND SO A LOT OF US HAVE, WE'VE MOVED FORWARD THROUGH A LOT OF, OF, OF THE CHANGES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
AND SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS FROM US, ANY PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR YOU.
THANK YOU FOR DROPPING BY TONIGHT.
OPEN FORM YOU WANT COUNSEL, HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD BEFORE WE FINISH UP? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UM, THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, TIME AFTER TIME, WE'VE HAD, UM, A CITIZEN COME AND STATE THAT THEY'RE NOT, THAT THEY'RE BEING DISMISSED.
UM, THE INFORMATION BEING REQUESTED IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE, CORRECT? WELL, I MEAN THERE'S A VARIETY OF INFORMATION.
THERE'S OUR COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT.
THE INFORMATION'S AVAILABLE THERE.
IT JUST IS NOT IN A FORMAT THAT THE PERSON THAT'S MAKING THE REQUEST PREFERS THAT THAT WAS, THAT WAS EXPLAINED.
UM, AND ALSO ONE, ONE KEY PIECE IS WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY GETS INVOLVED, IT'S BECAUSE, UM, CITIZEN WAS CLAIMING THAT THEIR RIGHTS WERE BEING VIOLATED.
AND I TAKE MY JOB VERY SERIOUSLY AND I WILL FOLLOW THE LAW AND I WILL DO WHAT STATE LAW SAYS.
UM, WE TAKE OUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES VERY SERIOUSLY AND, AND I DON'T CARE ONE BIT FOR BEING ACCUSED OF NOT DOING IT CORRECTLY.
AND, UH, WE ARE PEOPLE OF STRONG ETHICS AND HAVE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS AND WE STRIVE FOR THAT EVERY DAY.
THE ENTIRE STAFF IN THIS ROOM WILL DO THAT.
AND SO WHEN YOU CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING OR NOT TREATING SOMEBODY PROPERLY, THEN I WILL INVOLVE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE LAW SAYS.
AND THE CERTIFIED AUDITED FINANCIAL REPORT FOR 24, 25 OR 25 FISCAL YEAR SHOULD BE OUT REQUIRED BY OUR AUDITED ENGAGEMENT IS END OF MARCH.
AND THAT, THAT'S A, A FAIRLY TYPICAL TIMEFRAME OR IS THAT USUALLY, IS THAT QUICKER THAN MOST MUNICIPALITIES? I'LL HAVE OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR SPEAK TO THAT, ALLISON.
I MEAN, GOVERNMENT AUDITS ARE EXTREMELY COMPLICATED.
OUR ENVIRONMENT THAT WE WORK IN IS COMPLICATED.
UM, OUR FUNDING SOURCES ARE COMPLICATED.
WE HAVE SET GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARDS AS WELL AS AUDITING STANDARDS.
WE DO WORK, THE AUDITORS REVIEW AND CHECK AND ASK QUESTION AFTER QUESTION TO THE POINT THAT THEY DRIVE US INSANE QUESTIONS.
AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT NOW.
IT, IT, IT TAKES SIX MONTHS, WHICH IS WHY THE MUNICIPAL SECURITIES RULEMAKING BOARD HAS SET THE DEADLINE AT MARCH 31ST TO ENSURE CONFIDENCE IN WHAT, WHAT IS BEING DONE.
BECAUSE WE DO ISSUE DEBT IN THE PUBLIC BOND MARKET.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT DRIVES THAT DEADLINE.
IT'S, AND OUR AUDIT ENGAGEMENT, OUR GOALS ARE THERE, THE DATES, EVERYTHING IS SET WHEN WE SIGN THAT ENGAGEMENT LETTER THAT YOU GUYS GET TO SEE WHEN YOU APPROVE THAT.
AND OUR BOND RATING IS PRETTY SPECTACULAR.
IT'S UM, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A BOND RATING LIKE THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE VERY TRANSPARENT FINANCIALS.
AND THE FINANCIALS WILL EXPLAIN A VARIANCE IN SOMETHING LIKE THE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH WHICH THEY DID IN A PARTICULAR QUESTION.
WE KEEP GETTING IT IS A CHANGE IN WHAT RSA, THE RETIREMENT SYSTEMS OF ALABAMA, UM, GIVES US A SET NUMBER THAT WE ARE THEN REQUIRED TO PUT IN THE BUDGET.
AND SO THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THE CITY HAS CONTROL OVER.
AND OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA PARTICIPATE IN RETIREMENT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION ON THAT TOO, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, I RECALL BEING PRIVY TO SOME OF THE EXCHANGE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COMPLAINANT.
AND UM, IT WAS MY, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PARTICULAR DOCUMENTS AND INFORMATION THE COMPLAINANT WAS SEEKING JUST SIMPLY DIDN'T EXIST IN THE FORMAT IN WHICH HE WAS REQUESTING.
AND THE CITY'S UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO TAILOR MAKE A DOCUMENT.
WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO CREATE A RECORD.
SO I THINK SOME OF THE CONFUSION LIES WHEN A RECORD SITS IN A COMPUTER, IF WE PULL A REPORT AND SAVE IT, THAT'S A RECORD.
IF YOU JUST LOOKING UP DATA, THAT'S NOT A RECORD AND IT'S A VERY SIMPLIFIED
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EXAMPLE, BUT THAT'S CORRECT.THE REPORTS AND INFORMATION DO NOT EXIST IN THE FORMAT IN WHICH THEY'RE BEING REQUESTED.
AND BY STATE LAW WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DO SO.
UM, LOTS OF TIME AND EFFORT GOES INTO BEING AS RESPONSIVE AS WE CAN TO OUR CITIZENS, BUT, UM, WE, WE DO NOT STOP WHAT WE'RE DOING EVERY DAY TO CREATE ALL NEW RECORDS AND DOCUMENTS.
UM, FOR WHAT EVERYBODY ASKS, WE WANNA BE RESPONSIVE.
WE BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN RESPONSIVE TO THE REQUEST PER STATE LAW AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
AND AS I RECOLLECT, A WRITTEN EXPLANATION WAS GIVEN TO THE COMPLAINANT, MANY EXPLANATIONS HAVE BEEN GIVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND A TON OF STAFF TIME.
HOW MUCH STAFF TIME CURIOUS RIGHT NOW? UM, NOT JUST THIS PERSON BUT SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE.
IT'S AVERAGING AN AN HOUR PLUS A DAY OF MY TIME JUST DEALING WITH THREE TO FOUR INDIVIDUALS IN PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS ALONG WITH THE FINANCE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, OUR DAVID DORTON, WHO HANDLES PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, VARIOUS AND OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SO ON.
BUT IT IS MUCH, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DO SO.
HOWEVER, YES, IT IS TIMELY AND WE TAKE, THAT'S WHY WE TAKE THESE SERIOUSLY.
WE SPEND THE TIME AND WE NEED TO SPEND ON 'EM.
UM, EARLY IN TONIGHT'S MEETING, UH, TOMMY AND I BOTH MENTIONED, UH, CHIEF ANDERSON RETIRING.
UH, I WANNA SAY NOW THAT WE'RE THROUGH AND MOVING ON THAT, UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT MIKE HARRIS BEING OUR NEW POLICE CHIEF.
I KNOW HE IS, GOT A COUPLE DAYS ON THE JOB, BUT, UM, HE IS, UH, HE IS READY FOR THIS OCCASION AND I THINK HE'S GONNA DO A GREAT JOB FOR AUBURN AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT HIS LEADERSHIP.
I ALSO WANNA REMIND YOU AS, AS WE ROLL INTO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE NEED TO BE KIND, OUR NEW CITY ENGINEER WILL BE HERE, BE THERE HIS SECOND DAY ON THE JOB.
SO WE'LL BE MAKING VERY PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT THIS WEEK.
UM, A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAW THE INTERNAL ANNOUNCEMENTS AS THE COUNCIL DID, BUT, UM, MICHAEL GRIFFIN IS COMING TO US FROM ATHENS, ALABAMA.
EXCITED TO MOVE HERE, UM, AND BE OUR NEXT CITY ENGINEER.
AND YOU'LL BE MEETING HIM THEN.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? SO MOVED TO ADJOURN.