Feb 17, 2026 City Council

OF THE WHOLE, THERE WERE NO ACTIONS AND, UH, IN OUR AGENDA, I DID ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE, UM, MY REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY OF AUBURN AT THE ALABAMA LEADING MUNICIPALITIES, UM, COMING UP, UM, IN APRIL.

PLEASE BE SEATED EARLIER, THE COMMITTEE

[4. MAYOR AND COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS.]

AND SO THE COUNCIL AGREED FOR THAT.

JUST MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS REAL QUICK.

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD AND ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS WHO SERVE IN THE PRESBYTERIAN COMMUNITY MINISTRY.

THEIR ANNUAL LUNCHEON WAS YESTERDAY.

THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS BEEN IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS.

UH, THEY DO HEAVY LIFTING FOR THOSE IN THE GREATEST OF NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I APPRECIATE THEIR LOVE AND THEIR COMPASSION FOR THOSE WHO ARE HURTING IN THE LEE COUNTY AREA AND APPLAUD THEIR WORK.

I WOULD SAY TO EACH OF YOU, IF THIS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO GET A TAX WRITE OFF HERE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY'RE A GREAT ORGANIZATION TO SUPPORT.

THEY DO OUTSTANDING WORK AND I WAS HAPPY TO BE WITH THEM YESTERDAY.

ALSO, A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO, OUR LOCAL MEDICAL PROVIDER, EAST ALABAMA HEALTH, HAD THEIR FIRST EVER, UM, STATE OF THE MEDICAL CENTER, STATE OF THE HOSPITAL.

AND, UH, WHAT AN EXCELLENT PROGRAM, HOW EXCITING IT IS TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR HOSPITAL, TO SEE HOW THEY'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW THE SPECIALTIES THAT THEY ARE RECRUITING AND BRINGING FORTH, UH, TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY, THE BUILDINGS AND THE FACILITIES THAT THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTED.

UM, WE SHOULD BE FORTUNATE, UH, FOR THE LEADERSHIP OVER THERE.

AND IT WAS A NICE, UM, BREAKFAST EVENT THAT THEY PUT ON, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS.

UH, THIS FRIDAY NIGHT, THERE WILL BE A VERY UNUSUAL EVENT THAT'LL HAPPEN FOR THE SECOND TIME EVER.

IT'S THE FIGHT AGAINST SUICIDE THAT'LL BE GOING ON AT THE BOTTLING PLAN IN OPELIKA.

THIS WILL BE STUDENTS DUKING IT OUT, UH, TO RAISE MONEY TO FIGHT, UH, UH, STUDENT SUICIDE, WHICH IS THE NUMBER TWO LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN OUR COLLEGE STUDENTS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND SO, UH, AGAIN, IF YOU WANNA HAVE SOME FUN, UH, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE CAN REMEMBER THE A CLUB BOXING MATCHES THAT USED TO OCCUR IN OUR, THAT USED TO OCCUR IN AUBURN, UH, EVERY SPRING.

I GUESS THIS IS A RESURGENCE OF THAT WITH A GREAT CAUSE ATTACHED TO IT, BUT WE CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO BEING WITH THEM ON FRIDAY NIGHT.

ALSO, MERCY MEDICAL, WHICH IS AN OUTSTANDING ORGANIZATION, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS ABOUT TO OPEN THEIR BRAND NEW FACILITY, UH, THAT IS NEXT WEEK AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BY AND SEE WHAT THEY DO.

DR. DALE CROSBY AND HIS VISION FOR SERVING THOSE MEDICALLY WHO HAVE TREMENDOUS NEEDS AND NOT A LOT OF ABILITY TO AFFORD THOSE NEEDS, UM, HAS JUST POURED HIS LIFE INTO THIS MINISTRY AND HAS DEVELOPED A GREAT STAFF THERE.

AND THEY'LL BE HAVING RIBBON CUTTING ON THEIR BRAND NEW, UH, BUILDING NEXT WEEK, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO JOINING THEM.

AND THEN FINALLY, I WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL THE BEST TO DAVID DORTON.

UM, SINCE I WAS ELECTED MAYOR IN 2018, I CAME IN WITH A LOT OF AMBITIONS AND SOME CRAZY IDEAS THAT WERE RIGHT IN THE BULLSEYE OF POOR DAVID.

AND HE HAD TO DEAL WITH ALL MY THOUGHTS AND UH, AND ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASMS AND DAVID HAS SERVED THIS COMMUNITY WELL FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND WILL BE RETIRING SOON.

AND JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, DAVID, HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE ALL THE ROLES AND ALL THE HATS THAT YOU HAVE WORE ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF AUBURN AND THIS GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE BEST TO YOU AS YOU MOVE ON IN LIFE.

OKAY? ALRIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD TONIGHT? I'M JUST, I YES MA'AM.

I JUST WANT TO, UH, JUST TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO THANK UH, UH, AL DAVIS AND HIS CREW FOR ALLOWING US TO USE THE BOYKIN COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THE BLACK HISTORY PROGRAM, WHICH WAS ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, SO, UM, SHOUTS OUT TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO TO HELP US, YOU KNOW, UM, PUT THINGS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, WE HAD A VERY, UH, NICE CROWD, NOT OVERCROWDED.

WE, WE DIDN'T BREAK IN THE CODES OR ANYTHING, JUSTIN, SO .

BUT YEAH.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU SONNY, FOR COMING OUT AND ENJOYING THE PROGRAM.

I WISH YOU ENJOYED IT.

YES, MA'AM.

AND THE CITY MANAGER FOR FINALLY PUTTING A TURN LANE, UH, SIGNAL UP AT WEBSTER AND WIRE COMING IN INTO WIRE.

ANYONE ELSE? I'D LIKE TO SAY I'M VERY THANKFUL TO AUBURN UNIVERSITY

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NOW YOU TURN, LET, YOU GOT A SIGNAL TO TURN A LEFT ONTO WEBSTER AND REALLY HELPS THE TRAFFIC FLOW.

AND I ENCOURAGE EACH OF YOU TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND IT'S, I DIDN'T THINK I'D EVER GET IT.

IT IS FINALLY OUT THERE AND I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A CITY MANAGER A QUICK QUESTION.

WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET SOMETHING DONE ABOUT LONG LEAVE DRIVE? UH, GOT SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT.

I ENCOURAGE EACH, EACH OF YOU GET A CHANCE TO DRIVE LONG, UH, WEST LONGLEAF AND LOOK AT THE, UH, POTHOLES AND THINGS.

WE, WE GOTTA GET THAT FIXED.

AND I'M GONNA BE WORKING WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE AREA, TRY TO GET SOME OF THE PLACES CLEANED UP AND PAPER PICKED UP.

AND I DON'T LIKE WHAT LUKE RUN DOWN THAT INVITES TROUBLE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET SOME DONE ABOUT THAT.

YES, SIR.

I'LL HAVE SCOTT C*****G SPEAK A LITTLE MORE TO IT.

BUT THE GENERAL OVERVIEW IS WE HAD PLACED IN THE BUDGET, UH, QUITE AN, AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT TO, UH, REALLY REBUILD ASPECTS OF THAT ROAD.

THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE WAY SUBLAYERS ON THE BOTTOM LEVEL THAT IS CAUSING SOME FAILURES, PARTICULARLY AT BRIDGE CROSSINGS, WHICH MAKES, UM, CORRECTING POTHOLES.

WE DO THAT PERIODICALLY, WE GO OUT THERE, BUT WITHOUT CUTTING OUT LARGE SECTIONS AND SPENDING MONEY, THAT, UM, MAKES NO SENSE TO SPEND WHEN WE'RE GONNA REPLACE IT, IS WHY WE HAVEN'T DONE LARGE OVERLAYS.

BUT I'VE HAD MULTIPLE FOLKS OUT THERE LOOKING AT IT AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT IN THE BEST SHAPE WE CAN UNTIL WE DO A LARGER PROJECT.

WE'LL BE UNDERWAY SHORTLY WITH, UH, A DESIGN GROUP SO THAT WE CAN GET THE PLANS TOGETHER AND FINISH OUT, UH, WHAT WE NEED TO GET THE PROJECT BID PROBABLY IN THE SUMMER.

SCOTT, I THINK WHAT YOU SAID, IT SUMS IT UP VERY WELL.

WE, UM, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS, UH, FOR A WHILE.

WE RECOGNIZE THIS AS, AS A NEED FOR A SPECIAL PROJECT.

WE PULLED THIS OUT OF A RESURFACING.

THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, MILL AND OVERLAY TYPE SITUATION.

UM, THIS, THE, THE CRACKS, THE FAILS, THE, THE, THE, THE FAILURES YOU'RE SEEING OUT THERE ARE MORE SIGNIFICANT.

AS, AS CITY MANAGER SAID, IF SOMETHING HAPPENED IN, UM, BENEATH THE SURFACE, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS.

IT MAY REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, A, A SIGNIFICANT REBUILD OF THAT CERTAIN SECTIONS.

NOT ALL THE ROAD IS, IS IN, YOU KNOW, TERRIBLE SITUA OR TERRIBLE CONDITION.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A COMBINATION OF EFFORTS.

WE PULLED IT OUT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT.

UM, WE ANTICIPATED DESIGN STARTING THIS YEAR.

WE ACTUALLY ARE WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT AND, AND HOPE TO HAVE A, UM, DESIGN CONTRACT TO BEGIN NEGOTIATION, UM, POTENTIALLY, UM, BY THE END OF THE WEEK, FIRST AND NEXT WEEK.

UM, WE'LL BRING THAT TO YOU AS SOON AS WE'RE SATISFIED THAT WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

ONCE THE DESIGN'S DONE, THEN WE'LL BID IT.

UM, IF SURE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ACTUALLY ADVANCE THAT FORWARD AND, AND START CONSTRUCTION THIS SUMMER.

AS SOON AS WE MOVE THE DESIGN CONTRACT FORWARD, AND AS SOON AS THAT'S COMPLETE, WE'LL GET IT OUT TO BID.

YEAH, I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT WANTS ROADS PAID IN AN AWARD, BUT THIS, THIS IS JUST, IT REALLY LOOKS BAD AND I, I KNOW Y'ALL BUSY, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU CAN GIVE US SOME ATTENTION.

ALL UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS.

WE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO PUT EYES ON IT ON A REGULAR BASIS AND MAKE PATCHES THAT WE CAN, UM, THAT, THAT MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO KEEP IT IN THE BEST POSSIBLE SHAPE UNTIL WE CAN DO THE APPROPRIATE PROJECT, WHICH NEEDS TO HAPPEN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND WE WILL MAKE THAT HAPPEN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO GET IT RE FIXED COMPLETELY.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, WE'LL MOVE AHEAD WITH

[5. AUBURN UNIVERSITY COMMUNICATIONS.]

UM, HELLO.

I HOPE YOU ALL ARE DOING WELL.

AND OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, AUBURN HAS BEEN PRETTY BUSY.

SO RILEY JOHNSON WAS CROWNED THE 2026 MISS AUBURN FOLLOWING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF HER MOTHER, WHO WAS MISS AUBURN IN 87, WHICH WAS PRETTY COOL.

UM, AND THEN WE HAD SGA CALLOUTS ON CARTER LAWN WHERE OUR NEW LEADERSHIP TEAM WAS ANNOUNCED WILLIS, OR WAS ELECTED THE NEW SGA PRESIDENT JOINED BY VICE PRESIDENT LILY POOLE, TREASURER JACKSON MORRIS INITIATIVES DIRECTOR COLIN HALE, OUTREACH DIRECTOR AMELIA SHANNON AND CHIEF OF STAFF JACKSON GREEN.

THEY'LL BE HEADED INTO AN EXECUTIVE RETREAT THIS WEEKEND ALONGSIDE OUR OLD EXEC TEAM TO PREPARE FOR THE YEAR AHEAD.

AND THEN PARKER MCCOLLUM PERFORMED LAST FRIDAY NIGHT IN NEVILLE ARENA AND HE BROUGHT AN INCREDIBLE CROWD AND IT WAS A GREAT ATMOSPHERE AND OTHER EXCITING NEWS.

AUBURN'S REC CENTER IS NOW OFFERING FREE GROUP FITNESS CLASSES TO STUDENTS AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO JUST STAY ACTIVE.

AND THEN LOBBY BOARD IS HEADING THIS THURSDAY TO MONTGOMERY FOR A HIGHER EDUCATION DAY.

AND THEN ON MONDAY WE LOBBY BOARD IS ALSO HOSTING, LEARNING HOW TO LOBBY DAY WITH GOVERNMENT PROFESSIONALS JOINING TO HELP BUILD SKILLS AND CONNECTIONS.

AND THEN NEXT WEEK, STUDENT RECRUITERS ARE PREPARING FOR THE FIRST ROUND OF INTERVIEWS AS WELL AS WAR EAGLE GIRLS AND PLANES MEN'S WILL BE UNDERGOING THEIR INTERVIEWS NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN LASTLY, OUR NUMBER NINE AUBURN BASEBALL TEAM PLAYS TONIGHT HERE AT HOME AT SIX AGAINST CINCINNATI.

THAT IS ALL FOR ME.

AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE AHEAD FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS ON ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT AN ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THIS WOULD BE YOUR

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TIME TO COME FORWARD.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES, WE'D LIKE TO ASK FOR YOU TO SHARE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS AND IN OUR AGENDA TONIGHT UNDER ORDINANCES RESOLUTIONS.

AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, UH, AN ITEM LATER ON UNDER CONTRACTS THAT HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ATTACHED.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO ONE OF THOSE, PLEASE WAIT FOR THAT PUBLIC HEARING TO BE OPEN.

NEED ONE.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE AHEAD WITH CITY MANAGERS COMMUNICATION.

I DUNNO, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE AGENDA ITEM.

WHY DON'T YOU, YOU WANNA TELL ME WHICH AGENDA IT IS AND WHAT IT'S ABOUT? SOUTH COLLEGE AND LONGLEAF? MAYBE THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, AT THE VERY END FOR CITIZENS OPEN FORUM.

CITY MANAGERS COMMUNICATIONS MAYOR UNDER CITY MANAGERS COMMUNICATIONS.

HOW ABOUT THAT? I'LL SEE.

[7. CITY MANAGER’S COMMUNICATIONS.]

WE'LL MOVE AHEAD.

I'D LIKE TO START THIS EVENING BY INTRODUCING OUR NEW CITY ENGINEER AND ENGINEERING SERVICES DIRECTOR, MICHAEL GRIFFIN, BEFORE HE STANDS UP.

I ALSO WANNA EXPRESS THE DEEP GRATITUDE I HAVE TO BRANDY ZEL FOR ALL THAT SHE DID IN OUR, IN AN INTERIM ROLE.

AND SHE'S STILL GONNA BE WORKING A GOOD BIT IN THE TRANSITION.

AND SHE AND OTHER TEAM MEMBERS, DAN KRAUSS, YOU'VE SEEN HIM PERIODICALLY HAVE DONE MUCH AND OVER THE LAST YEAR, UM, TO REALLY DO GREAT THINGS WITH OUR ENGINEERING SERVICES DEPARTMENT WITHOUT A FULL-TIME DIRECTOR.

SO BRANDY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.

ALSO, CHIEF DAWSON BRANDY PLAYED A, A BIG ROLE IN CONVINCING THE UNIVERSITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TURN ARROW AT, AT WEBSTER AND WIRE.

SO I ALSO WANNA GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE, BUT MICHAEL GRIFFIN, HE'S SITTING HERE IN THE, IN THE FRONT ROW.

HE MET SOME OF YOU EARLIER WHEN HE GOT HERE.

STAND UP.

MICHAEL WILL EMBARRASS YOU.

, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE A SPEECH OR ANYTHING, BUT TODAY'S HIS SECOND DAY HERE.

HE JUST MOVED HERE FROM ATHENS, ALABAMA.

HIS FAMILY WILL BE JOINING SHORTLY.

UM, HE'S A BRAND NEW RESIDENT OF WARD SEVEN.

AND SO WE LIKE, WE LIKE TO TEASE ABOUT THAT, BUT MICHAEL'S GONNA DO GREAT THINGS WHILE HE IS HERE.

WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE HIM AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM.

GOOD.

WELCOME, MICHAEL.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

UH, I'LL, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENTARY FOR EVERYBODY IS OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM, UM, THOSE WHO ARE NEWER TO THEIR POSITIONS ARE REQUIRED TO LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS.

THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THAT.

UM, WE LIKE TO EXPERIENCE OUR SERVICES AND BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO APPRECIATE MICHAEL AND HIS FAMILY MOVING INTO TOWN.

UNDER OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS I HAVE, WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE AUBURN PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARD FOR A TERM THAT BEGINS ON APRIL 15TH AND ENDS APRIL 14TH, 2020.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

I DON'T HAVE THE CORRECT YEAR.

IT'LL BE, UH, EIGHT, I THINK IT'S 2030 IS WHEN IT ENDS.

THE APPOINTMENT WILL BE MADE AT THE MARCH 17TH MEETING.

WE HAVE A VACANCY ON THE TREE COMMISSION FOR AN UNEXPIRED TERM THAT BEGINS UPON APPOINTMENT AND DOES END NOVEMBER 7TH, 2026.

AND THAT APPOINTMENT WILL ALSO BE MADE AT THE MARCH 17TH MEETING.

AND THEN WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON THE BOARD OF EDUCATION FOR A TERM THAT BEGINS ON JUNE 1ST AND ENDS MAY 31ST, 2031.

THE APPOINTMENT WILL BE MADE AT THE APRIL 21ST MEETING, AND I WAS CORRECT.

THE LIBRARY BOARD TERM ENDS AND, UH, 2030.

MS. CROUCH, REAL QUICK IF I COULD INTERJECT ON THE BOARD OF EDUCATION.

UM, THIS, UH, THIS, THE MEMBER OF OUR BOARD OF EDUCATION WHOSE TERM IS EXPIRING IS BLAKE PRESAGE.

UH, BLAKE HAS SERVED FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

HE TOOK THE PLACE, UM, OF A MEMBER OF THE BOARD THAT HAD TO RETIRE AFTER ONE YEAR OF SERVING ON THE BOARD.

UH, BLAKE WILL BE SEEKING A HIS FIRST FULL TERM AND, UH, AS WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, UH, WHEN MEMBERS OF OUR BOARDS, UH, PARTICULARLY, UM, SCHOOL AND PLANNING HAVE SERVED A TERM AND HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB AND HAVE BEEN INVESTED, UH, WE HAVE MOVED THEM FORWARD.

AND SO I'LL BE ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL POTENTIALLY MAKING AT THE NEXT MEETING TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND GO AHEAD AND REAPPOINT MR. RIDGE BACK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

THAT'LL BE ON OUR AGENDA AT THE NEXT MARCH 3RD MEETING.

IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? YES.

MAYOR, REAL QUICKLY, IF, IF YOU WANNA CONSIDER THAT, DO YOU WANT US TO OPEN UP THE APPLICATION PROCESS NOW OR WAIT? 'CAUSE PEOPLE WILL APPLY.

I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO WAIT.

I WANT TO, I WANT OUR COMMUNITY.

CERTAINLY, I DON'T WANNA, UM, FOOL OUR COMMUNITY AND I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE THE INTENTION OF THE COUNCILS TO REAPPOINT A MEMBER OF OUR SCHOOL BOARD WHO'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.

SO WE DON'T WANNA OPEN UP THE PORTAL UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THE NEXT MEETING.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST PRACTICE.

EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT? YOU MAKE THAT DECISION.

[8. CONSIDERATION OF CONSENT AGENDA.]

CONSENT AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DEAL WITH THAT ITEM INDIVIDUALLY? ANYONE? I WOULD, YES, SIR.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE, IF I MAY, EIGHT.

DELTA AND EIGHT ECHO.

[8.d. Concurrence. Project Dasom. 2201 Riley Street.]

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D ITEM.

EIGHT D CONCURS WITH THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD IN SUPPORT OF THE SALE OF A MANUFACTURING FACILITY LOCATED AT 2 2 0 1 RILEY STREET.

THE PROJECT DAYUM, THE COMPANY ANTICIPATES CREATING APPROXIMATELY 72 JOBS WITH A CAPITAL INVESTMENT OF $21 MILLION.

HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND MR. MORMON.

UM, AS YOU STATED, THIS IS AN INVESTMENT OF $21 MILLION AND WE'LL CREATE APPROXIMATELY 72 NEW JOBS.

SO IT'S A BIG DEAL.

UM, AND IT ALSO WILL BE CONSIDERED IF I MAY GET A LITTLE BIT OF AHEAD IN, IN ITEM 10, A THREE.

UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT CONDITIONAL USE ON THIS SAME THING.

AM I CORRECT ON THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, AND SPECIFICALLY IT WILL BE A MANUFACTURING FACILITY AND WE'LL, UH, BE VOTING TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THAT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UH, WHAT PROJECT DYSON IS, BUT, UH, APPARENTLY WE'RE WOULD BE MAKING, THEY WILL BE MAKING AUTOMOTIVE ELECTRONICS IN THIS FACILITY.

AND SO, UM, I I SUSPECT THAT WILL BE LOW IMPACT.

IT WILL BE LOW NOISE, BUT, UH, IT'S A LARGE MANUFACTURING OUTFIT.

AND I JUST, I I I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE, UH, WE SHOULD JUST GLOSS OVER THAT.

I, I FELT LIKE WE SHOULD, UH, COMPLIMENT MR. DUNLAP FOR BRINGING THEM IN, BUT UM, ALSO JUST KIND OF EXPLORE WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE 'EM IN OUR FAMILY AND, AND WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO HAVE THEM MANUFACTURING THEIR PRODUCTS.

UM, COUNCILMAN MORMAN, WE WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ANNOUNCE EXACTLY WHO THE COMPANY IS THIS EVENING.

THEY'RE NOT QUITE READY FOR THAT, WHICH IS WHY YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION IN THE FINAL PRODUCT OF WHAT THEY MAKE.

'CAUSE COMPANIES CHOOSE TO MAKE THEIR ANNOUNCEMENTS.

SO, UM, I BELIEVE MR. DUNLAP, THEY HAVE SIGNED PROPER DOCUMENTATION SAYING THAT THEY'RE COMING, BUT WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO ANNOUNCING THIS PROJECT.

IS THAT CORRECT? AND SO YOU'LL SEE OTHER ITEMS COME THROUGH.

THIS IS, THIS BUILDING IS SOMETHING THE INDUSTRIAL BOARD HAS OWNED.

IT'S A SPEC BUILDING AND THEN THEY'RE ADDING TO IT.

AND SO, UH, THERE'S MORE GOING ON.

UH, YOU'RE GONNA SEE, I, I GOT A LIST TODAY AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH OUR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

LOTS OF ACTIVITY.

THE CITY INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN ADDITIONAL INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE MOVING THAT PROPERTY TO SALE ABOUT AS FAST AS THEY CAN WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.

NOT EVEN COMPLETE YET.

IT IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED NEARLY 30 YEARS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST BOONS I'VE SEEN IN MY ENTIRE CAREER IS GOING ON WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND THEY ARE VERY SELECTIVE.

UM, TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN MORMAN ABOUT WHO COMES HERE, ABOUT WHAT THEY MANUFACTURE, HOW THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, UM, HOW RESPONSIBLE THEY ARE.

THEY VISIT EVERY ONE OF THESE COMPANIES.

THEY DO A LOT OF PRE-WORK.

IF YOU'RE GONNA BE PART OF OUR INDUSTRIAL FAMILY, THEN YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA TO BE LOCATED IN AUBURN.

IF IT'S PROPERTY, THE INDUSTRIAL BOARD CONTROLS YOU GOOD.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALRIGHT.

E AUTHORIZES THE SUBMITTAL OF A GRANT APPLICATION REQUESTING $215,000 FROM THE ALABAMA RECYCLING FUND.

UNION POST AND THE MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM EIGHT

[8.e. Authorize grant application submission. Alabama Recycling Fund]

SECOND, I HAVE MOTION TO SECOND MR. MORMAN.

I GATHER IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE A RECYCLING TOWN THAT WE EVEN GET TO APPLY FOR A GRANT, UH, LIKE THIS.

IS THAT TRUE? UM, IT'S TRUE.

MS. COOK WILL COME UP AND SHE CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND IS, UM, HER PREDECESSORS AS WELL AS HERSELF AND HER MANY YEARS IN THIS DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF RECYCLING GRANTS OVER THE YEARS AND WE WERE PROBABLY KINDLY ASKED TO TAKE A PAUSE AND LET OTHER PEOPLE GET AT THESE FUNDS.

AND NOW KATRINA'S BRINGING IT BACK AROUND.

THAT IS CORRECT.

WE HAVE RECEIVED THE, THE GRANTS IN THE PAST, UM, STARTED IN 2008, UM, WITH THE SOLID WASTE RECYCLING AND MATERIALS MANAGEMENT ACT IN 2010, THEY STARTED AWARDING.

SO, SO FAR WE'VE RECEIVED OVER $982,000 IN GRANTS FOR OUR RECYCLING PROGRAM.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT KICKED OFF OUR SINGLE STREAM RECYCLING PROCESS.

BUT IT'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY MUNICIPALITY.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN THE LEADING MUNICIPALITY IN TERMS OF SINGLE STREAM.

UM, YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'LL BE GETTING.

UH, IT'S WHAT I HEAR IT WE'RE APPLYING FOR 215,000, BUT WE'RE NOT REAL SURE HOW THAT'LL TURN OUT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

UM, THERE'S ABOUT $2.2 MILLION IN THAT FUND.

UM, THAT FUND COMES FROM OUR SOLID WASTE FEES.

SO WE PAID $29 AND 72 CENTS A TON, AND 37 60 4 CENTS A T $37 AND 64 CENTS A TON FOR OUR

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BULKY DEBRIS.

SO THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL DOLLAR THAT IS ADDED FOR ANYTHING THAT'S GONE TO THE LANDFILL.

SO WE HAVE TO PAY THAT ADDITIONAL DOLLAR.

THIS FUNDS OUR RECYCLING GRANT PROGRAM AND ALLOWS MUNICIPALITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN RECYCLING THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

SO, UM, WE HAVE LESS THAN 40,000 HOUSEHOLDS THAT WE SERVICE.

WE SERVICE ABOUT 20,000.

SO WE'RE LOOKED AT AS A SMALLER UNIT.

SO ABOUT 20% OF THOSE FUNDS ARE MADE AVAILABLE FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE APPLYING LIKE THAT.

SO WE ARE COMPETING AGAINST OTHER CITIES.

SO WHAT WE GET DEPENDS ON WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE APPLYING FOR AS WELL.

GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THANK YOU MS. KOCH FOR Y'ALL'S HARD WORK.

ALWAYS.

ALRIGHT, HAVE A MOTION.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

ANY OPPOSED? AND THAT MOTION CARRIES.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ANY OPPOSED? AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED ORDINANCES

[9.a. Rezoning. Bent Brooke, Phase Two. Approximately 6.17 acres to Limited Development District (LDD) with an overlay of the Conservation Overlay District (COD) designation. Property located at 2591 and 2595 Glenn Brooke Drive. Planning Commission recommendation. Unanimous consent necessary. Public hearing required.]

UNDER ORDINANCES.

ITEM NINE, A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 6.17 ACRES OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 5 9 1 AND 2 5 9 5 GLENBROOK DRIVE FROM RURAL TO LIMITED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WITH A CONSERVATION OVERLAY DISTRICT DESIGNATION.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT ITS JANUARY 8TH MEETING.

UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY AND A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

I'LL INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE AND ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

SECOND, I HAVE MOTION TO SECOND.

IS ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH THE VOTE ON THIS THIS EVENING? SEEING A HEARING? NONE.

WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL ON THIS.

PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THIS COUNCIL.

I SEE NO ONE.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE DIOCESE? UH, MAYOR, I HAVE A FEW THINGS.

UH, PLEASE.

I'VE CORRESPONDED WITH A FEW OF THE RESIDENTS, UH, IN, IN, UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BEN CREEK.

SO JUST WANT TO ASK YOU CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.

THIS, WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS TO BE ZONED REZONED TO LDD.

UH, WHAT IS THIS, WHAT IS THE SURROUNDING AREA OF, OF THIS, UH, BENBROOK AND, AND OTHER AREAS THAT ARE AROUND IN A, IN A NUTSHELL? EAST LAKE AND BENBROOK ARE ALL ZONE LDD.

AND THEN IN THIS REZONING, WE'RE ASKING THE STRICT REZONING.

IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE CAN PUT ON THE REZONING AS FAR AS BUFFERING OR, UH, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OUTSIDE OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OR, OR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT? NO.

YEAH, NOT, NOT REALLY.

SINCE IT'S, IT'S SINGLE FAMILY GOING IN AROUND SINGLE FAMILY AND THEN THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT, UH, AMOUNT OF EASEMENTS THAT REALLY KINDA LIMIT WHERE A STRUCTURE CAN GO.

SO THERE'S ALREADY KIND OF NATURAL BUFFERS IN PLACE DUE TO THE EASEMENTS IN PLACE.

BUT YOU CAN'T CONDITION ZONING BASED ON ANYTHING? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

UNLESS IT'S A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

AND THEN AS FAR AS THERE'S BEEN COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEM TAKING ACCESS OFF OF THE CUL-DE-SAC THROUGH A SHARED DRIVEWAY, IS THERE ANY OTHER ACCESS POINTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT? COULD, I MEAN, THE PROPERTY KIND OF BACKS UP TO MOORE'S MILL.

IS THERE ANY ABILITY FOR US TO TAKE ACCESS OFF OF THAT ARTERIAL ROAD? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO THAT WAS A POINT OF DISCUSSION IN THE PRE-APP.

AND SO IT WASN'T, IT WAS IDENTIFIED BY STAFF THAT THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE FOR THEM TO TAKE ACCESS FROM THE CUL-DE-SAC AND TO NOT ADD AN ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY TO MORRIS MILL, KINDA AT THAT CURVE.

JUST FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, UH, WHERE THAT TUR IS AND ALL THAT? YEP, THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'D BE UNUSUAL.

AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL HOUSE HERE AND THEN A SECOND HOUSE HAD BUILT, AND THIS WOULD BE A THIRD HOUSE ON A TOTAL OF 6.17 ACRES.

IT WOULD BE UNUSUAL TO TAKE ACCESS FROM THE ARTERIAL ROAD, UH, WITH A DRIVEWAY WHEN IT HAS ACCESS THROUGH SUBDIVISION.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

NINE B ESTABLISHES A FEE OF $750 FOR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? OKAY.

ROLL CALL.

ALLISON DAWSON? YES MA'AM.

[9.b. Planning Department. Establish a fee for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) application. Unanimous consent necessary. Public hearing required.]

UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY AND A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

I'LL INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE AND ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND, THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.

SCENE.

NO ONE.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE DIOCESE? YES SIR.

MR. GRISWOLD? YES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF $750 FOR

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THE APPLICATION.

I KNOW I ASKED IT, YOU ANSWERED IT AND I THINK, UH, SONNY, YOU ANSWERED IT ASKED AS WELL.

BUT FOR THE PUBLIC, COULD YOU TELL US HOW THE 750 WAS DETERMINED PLEASE? YEAH, CERTAINLY.

SO WE, SO WE, THIS IS, THIS IS A PART OF A LARGER, LARGER PACKAGE OF, OF, UH, FEE CHANGES AND, AND PROPOSALS THAT WE WERE GONNA MAKE.

AND THE SEVEN 50 WAS THE SUM OF, UH, CONDITIONAL USE THAT WOULD BE A PART OF A-P-U-D-A VARIANCE REQUEST THAT WOULD BE A PART OF A-P-U-D-A REZONING APPLICATION THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE PUD.

UM, AND THEN I, I GUESS KIND OF THE ANNEXATION THAT WE SUBTRACTED A HUNDRED DOLLARS FROM IT PRETTY MUCH.

AND SO IT WAS GONNA BE, I THINK ABOUT 8 25, 8 50 WAS THE SUM OF ALL THOSE PROPOSED COSTS.

AND THEN WE SUBTRACTED A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THEN MADE IT SEVEN 50.

AND THEN WE ALSO COMPARED IT TO WHAT EXISTING PUD TO, UH, FEES WERE FOR OTHER, UH, MUNICIPALITIES, KIND OF SIMILAR TO OURS.

AND ALSO LOOKING AT JUST KIND OF THE, SOME OF THE COST OF WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WOULD CHARGE.

PRELIMINARY PLATS, REZONINGS AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I WOULD SAY WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU WITH MORE FEE CHANGES AS HE ALLUDED TO.

UM, BUT WE WANNA BE THROUGH ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGES AND KIND OF DO THAT.

UNILATERALLY CHANGES HAVEN'T BEEN MADE SINCE 1996.

UNDER RESOLUTIONS ITEM 10 A ONE IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL OF A ROAD SERVICE USE FOR AUTO REPAIR PAINT AND BODY WORK FOR PROPERTY.

SO THEY'RE A LITTLE ANTIQUATED IN OUR FEES.

AND THESE WOULD NOT BE LARGE INCREASES, BUT THEY WOULD BE, I MEAN WITH INFLATION AND SO ON.

ALLISON GRISWOLD? YES, MA'AM.

[10.a.1. Auto Services Center. Road service use (auto repair, paint/body work). Property located at 140 Spirit Drive.]

LOCATED AT 1 4 0 SPIRIT DRIVE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING DISTRICT.

THE PROJECT IS KNOWN AS THE AUTO SERVICES CENTER.

THE PLAN COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

IT'S FEBRUARY 12TH, MEETING A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE DIOCESE? COMMENTS? THIS IS, UH, AN EXTENSION OF SUN'S AUTOMOTIVE.

IT'S, IT'S PART OF, PART OF THEIR OVERALL OPERATION.

THEY'RE OUTTA SPACE.

ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT.

ITEM 10 A TWO IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL OF AN INDUSTRIAL USE FOR MANUFACTURING FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 2 7 0 RILEY STREET IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

[10.a.2. Project Joy. Industrial use (manufacturing facility). Property located at 2270 Riley Street.]

THE PRO THE PROJECT IS KNOWN AS PROJECT JOY.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.

IT'S FEBRUARY 12TH, MEETING A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

MOTION IS SECOND.

THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL SO YOU KNOW WHEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

10 A THREE IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL OF AN INDUSTRIAL USE AUTOMOTIVE MANUFACTURING THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER, LOCATED AT 2 2 0 1 RILEY STREET IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

ITEM

[10.a.3. Project Dasom. Industrial use (automotive manufacturing). Property located at 2201 Riley Street.]

THE PROJECT IS KNOWN AS PROJECT DAYUM.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT ITS FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

SEE NO ONE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? JUST ONE MORE ADDITIONAL COMMENT ON THIS.

UM, THIS IS ON THE SAME SITE THAT THEY'RE ALREADY OPERATING.

DI SAM'S ALREADY OPERATING.

THEY'RE NOT AL ALREADY OPERATING THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT THEY WILL BE OCCUPYING.

OH, OKAY.

AND IT'S GONNA MORE THAN DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THIS EXISTING BUILDING? NO, THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING.

THE OTHER ONE WAS THE, THE PROJECT, WELL, SORRY, DAYIM, I'M CONFUSING IT WITH THE OTHER ONE.

IT IS MORE THAN DOUBLING THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND IT IS NEW TO THE BUILDING.

I WAS THINKING OF PROJECT JOY.

THANKS AGAIN MR. .

I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO OUR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

GREAT JOB.

AGAIN, LOOK FORWARD TO THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF BOTH OF THESE NEW COMPANIES.

ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT.

ITEM 10 A FOUR IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL

[10.a.4. Ridgecrest Redevelopment. Institutional (community housing services and daycare) and office uses. Property located at 945 North Donahue Drive.]

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USE APPROVAL OF AN INSTITUTIONAL USE COMMUNITY HOUSING SERVICES AND DAYCARE FOR PROPERTY.

LOCATED AT 9 4 5 NORTH DONAHUE DRIVE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING DISTRICT.

THIS PROJECT IS KNOWN AS RIDGECREST REDEVELOPMENT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST THAT ITS FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.

PLEASE COME FORWARD TO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL.

WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC QUEUE.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE DICE? UM, THIS, THIS WILL BE LOOKED AT TWICE TONIGHT.

UH, THIS INITIAL LOOK.

AND THEN, UH, THE FUNDING WILL BE LOOKED AT IN 10 D IS THAT RIGHT? 10 DELTA? YEAH.

FUND FUNDING IS SEPARATE.

SO AS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OWNS THE PROPERTY, UM, THEY ARE SEEKING THE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL, UM, FROM THE INSTITUTIONAL USE SIDE.

AND THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED VERY SIMILAR APPROVALS IN, IN OTHER YEARS WHEN THEY APPLIED FOR GRANT FUNDING TO ALSO WELL FINANCING FUNDING REALLY, UM, TO DO THIS PROJECT.

AND SO WHEN THOSE, AND THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE THOSE FUNDINGS, THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUESTS EXPIRE EVERY 18 MONTHS.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BACK BEFORE YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK, UH, SHARON BERT FOR HER EFFORTS INTO, UM, BRINGING A NEW WELL TO REDEVELOP THE, UH, RIDGE CREDITS, UH, FACILITIES THAT'S THERE NOW.

UH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, IF SHE CAN JUST COME UP AND JUST EXPLAIN, THAT'S GREAT.

WHAT, WHAT THIS IS SO THAT EVERYBODY WILL KNOW, MOST OF US KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO DO.

SO, AND, AND, UM, THANK YOU SHARON FOR WANTING TO DO THIS.

IT'S A LONG TIME COMING.

IT'S IN MY WARD, SO, HEY.

IT'S EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

MR, WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN US UP HERE? ONE SECOND.

WE'RE TRYING TO BRING UP OUR DRAWINGS.

HOLD ON.

OUR, YOU GUYS CAN SEE THEM AND NOBODY ELSE CAN.

AND SO THERE WE GO.

GREG, IF YOU COULD ADVANCE ONE FURTHER MAYBE TO THE SITE PLAN.

THERE WE GO.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK, UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

AND COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, WORKING WITH FEDERAL FUNDS IS NOT AN EASY TASK.

UM, OUR DESIRE IS TO CHANGE THE FACE OF PUBLIC HOUSING.

OUR PROPERTIES COMPLY WITH HUD'S INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS, BUT THESE PROPERTIES ARE OVER 50 YEARS OLD AND THEY'RE FUNCTIONALLY OBSOLETE.

AND OUR DESIRE IS TO HOUSE OUR FAMILIES WITH DIGNITY.

UM, SO THEY'LL BE PROUD OF WHERE THEY LIVE.

AND A PLACE TO CALL HOME, AS WE ALL KNOW, ANYWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY OR IN THE NATION, YOU CAN PASS PUBLIC HOUSING AND, YOU KNOW, IT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING AND IT'S OUR DESIRE TO CHANGE THE FACE OF HOUSING AND, UH, ACROSS OUR ENTIRE PORTFOLIO.

BUT IT'S A DAUNTING TASK.

UH, THE FUNDING THAT WE ARE HOPING THAT WE ARE APPLYING FOR, AND WE ARE GOING TO GET IT THIS YEAR, UH, IS THROUGH THE ALABAMA HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY.

IT'S THROUGH THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX PROGRAM, WHICH IS AN IRA'S BASED PROGRAM.

UH, WE'VE TRIED A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT THIS YEAR WE FEEL MORE OPTIMISTIC BECAUSE WE FEEL WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST DEVELOPERS IN THE STATE.

UH, WITH THIS PROGRAM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPERIENCE 'CAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH LARGE INVESTORS THAT, UH, ARE RELIANT ON GETTING THEIR TAX CREDIT DEDUCTION AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE IN PLACE TO, UH, FACILITATE THESE PROGRAMS. IN THE PAST, UH, THE DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE RESPONDED TO OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS HAVE BEEN OUTTA STATE.

AND WHAT THEY HAVE FOUND IS ALABAMA HAS ONE OF THE MOST STRINGENT, UH, PROCESSES FOR THESE FUNDING, WHICH I COMMEND THE STATE FOR THAT THEY'RE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I'M VERY, UM, THANKFUL FOR THE DEVELOPER THAT WE HAVE WITH US THIS TIME IS HOLLY HAND DEVELOPER.

UH, HE'S OUT OF, UM, ALABAMA.

HE'S VERY, HE'S BEEN VERY, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, UM, UM, WELL THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, UH, COMPETITIVE ON RECEIVING THESE AWARDS FOR OTHER HOUSING AUTHORITIES.

UM, MAYBE I THINK ABOUT 90% OF THEIR TAX CREDIT, UH, APPLICATION HAS BEEN AWARDED.

SO WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL, UH, THAT WE'LL BE IN THAT SAME BUCKET.

AND I REACHED OUT TO ALL OF MY PEERS THAT HAVE WORKED WITH THEM BEFORE AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY COMPLIMENTARY.

SO I SAID ALL THAT TO SAY, UH, RIDGECREST IS 106 UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

UH, OUR INTENT IS TO, UH, REDEVELOP RIDGECREST AND THREE PHASES.

THE FIRST PHASE WILL BE 56 UNITS.

UH, 56 IS FOR A COUPLE REASONS.

FOR ONE, RELOCATION WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR OUR FAMILIES.

UH, BUT TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO,

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UH, TEAR DOWN UNITS AND REBUILD.

AND OUR DESIRE IS ALSO FROM OUR BOARD IS NOT TO BUILD ANOTHER APARTMENT COMMUNITY, BUT A HOUSING IN A, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY.

SO, UH, WITH THE FIRST PHASE OF OUR RE-DEVELOPMENT, 56 UNITS AND WE WOULD, UH, TEAR DOWN THE REBUILD 40 OF THOSE 46 TO MINIMIZE THE DISPLACEMENT.

UH, THE DISPLACEMENT WILL BE AT THE COST OF US, UH, BE AT NO COST FOR OUR FAMILIES.

THEY WILL HAVE A RIGHT TO RETURN TO THE UNITS AS LONG AS THEY COMPLY WITH THEIR, UH, STANDARDS OF COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR LEASE AND ALSO WITH MAINTAINING THE HUD COMPLIANCE COMPLIANCE WITH THE HCV PROGRAM.

BUT FAMILIES DURING THE RELOCATION, THEY WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO, UH, RETURN TO THE UNITS RIGHT TO RETURN OR USE A, UTILIZE A TENANT BASED VOUCHERS.

AND WE'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS WITH OUR FAMILIES, ONLY THE 56, NOT ALL OF OUR, UM, PROPERTY, UH, ALL OF OUR FAMILIES.

AND THEY'RE VERY OPTIMISTIC.

UM, THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT.

SOME THE VAST MAJORITY WANT TO RETURN AND SOME WANT TO UTILIZE THAT OPTION OF, UM, GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I HAVE TO SAY ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR, UM, SUPPORTING, UH, THIS RECOMMENDATION OF OURS.

AND ALSO, I JUST HAVE TO SAY WHAT I KNOW FROM HUD PROGRAM IS FROM THIS BAND RIGHT HERE, PHILLIP DUNLAP AND ALL THE SUPPORT FROM MEGAN.

I HATE TO CALL OUT NAMES 'CAUSE I'M GONNA MISS SOMEONE.

THE, THE TEAM HAS BEEN BEHIND US FROM THE BEGINNING, FROM PLANNING TO, OH, I DON'T WANNA CALL OUT NAMES, SO I DON'T WANNA OVERLOOK ANYONE.

SO EVERYTHING THAT I LEARNED ABOUT WHAT I'M DOING NOW IS FROM WHAT I LEARNED FROM BEING HERE AT THE CITY OF AUBURN FOR 16 YEARS AND WORKING WITH PHILIP AND MEGAN OVER THE YEARS.

SO I I, I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

I KNOW I SAID A LOT , BUT I'M VERY, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING.

UH, I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE LIVING IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.

I'M A PRODUCT OF IT.

SO WHAT I DO IS NOT A JOB.

IT'S A PASSION OF WHAT I DO.

AND OUR FAM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WONDERFUL DEVELOPMENT AT AUBURN, BUT OUR FAMILIES JUST HA HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

AND THIS WILL GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

SO I WANT FOLKS TO COME INTO APPLY NOT KNOWING THAT IT'S SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, UM, BECAUSE YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T SEE IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT LOOK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO, UM, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ALL THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE AND CONTINUE TO HEAR ME HAVE THE SAME SPEECH YEAR AFTER YEAR.

BUT I'M GONNA KEEP SAYING THE SAME SPEECH UNTIL WE'RE FUNDED, UNTIL WE SEE THAT RENDERING ON THE GROUND.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING, MEGAN.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN WEARING YOU OUT.

PHILLIP, THANK YOU ALL.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ALLOWING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I GOT ANOTHER QUESTION.

YES MA'AM.

AND THIS IS A QUESTION THAT BEEN ASKED TO ME.

WHY RIDGECREST IS YOUR FIRST DEVELOPMENT? BECAUSE RIDGE CRYSTAL REALLY ONE OF THE LAST, RIGHT? NO, IT'S NOT.

UH, SPARTAN IS ONE THAT THE LAST, BUT BRIDGE CREST IS OUR LARGER DEVELOPMENT MM-HMM .

AND IT'S ON THE MAIN QUARTER MM-HMM .

AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO START THERE.

THAT WAS THE PREFERENCE OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

I MEAN, UH, OUR BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS TO START WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT.

OUR DESIRE IS TO, UM, CONTINUE THROUGHOUT OUR PROPERTIES, AS YOU CAN SEE IS WE'RE FIVE, FIVE YEARS IN AND WE STILL HAVE YET TO MOVE DIRT .

AND SO IT'S A DAUNTING PROCESS, BUT OUR DESIRE IS TO, UH, REHABILITATE, UH, ALL OF OUR PORTFOLIO.

BUT IT JUST TAKES SO MUCH TIME AND A LOT OF MONEY.

SO, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA START, BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE WE'RE GONNA FINISH.

MR. TALL THINK SON IS ABOUT TO ASK THAT SAME QUESTION ABOUT HE IS THE ONE THAT'S IN HERE, WARD .

WE TALKED IN OTHER SESSIONS ABOUT HOW THE TRANSITION WOULD, WOULD HAPPEN, WHERE THESE FOLKS WOULD BE MOVED TO.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT? YES, SIR.

OUR DESIRE IS, ONCE WE ARE FUNDED AND THE AWARD WILL BE ANNOUNCED SOMETIME IN JUNE OF 2026, WE WILL, UH, CREATE VACANCIES THROUGH ATTRITION.

SO AS FAMILIES MOVE OUT, WE WILL NOT MOVE NEW FAMILIES IN.

WE'LL SET ASIDE THOSE UNITS, UH, FOR OUR FAMILIES TO, TO RELOCATE TO ON SITE.

UH, WHAT WE ALSO WILL DO FOR PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE FOR FAMILIES THAT WE NOT ABLE TO RELOCATE ON SITE IS TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH OUR EXISTING LANDLORDS TO ADD TO THEIR PROGRAM TEMPORARILY, UM, TO UTILIZE A VOUCHER TEMPORARY, OR IT COULD BE LONG TERM.

SO OUR OPTION IS TO RELOCATE ON OUR PROPERTIES FIRST.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE WILL CREATE VACANCIES AND THOSE THAT REMAIN, WE WILL, THEY CAN UTILIZE A TENANT-BASED VOUCHER.

AND THAT WOULD BE AT OUR EXPENSE.

SHARON.

IT'S EASY TO GET EXCITED ABOUT WHAT YOU DO 'CAUSE YOU'RE SUCH A GREAT LEADER.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND AUBURN IS FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU AND YOUR PERSISTENCE AND YOUR DETERMINATION TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

AND, UH, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA HAPPEN THIS TIME.

IT WILL HAPPEN THIS TIME.

AND WE'RE GRATEFUL.

I MEAN, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE FREE TIME THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU GIVE TO AUBURN CITY SCHOOLS, .

YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND YOU KNOW, JUST THIS WEEK YOU SENT US ALL YOUR WINTER

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MAGAZINE.

AND FOR ANY OF US THAT WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT REALLY GOES ON IN THE AUBURN HOUSING AUTHORITY, I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO FLIP THROUGH THAT MAGAZINE AND SEE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU OFFER YOUR RESIDENTS.

IT IS NOT JUST A PLACE TO SLEEP, IT'S A PLACE TO LIVE, REALLY LIVE AND, AND HAVE COMPANIONSHIP AND, AND FRIENDSHIPS WITH THOSE THAT ARE AROUND YOU.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES.

THIS IS A PROJECT FOR OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND I KNOW IT'S GONNA ACUTELY SERVE THOSE THAT THAT LIVE IN YOUR, IN YOUR HOMES, BUT IT'S, IT'S A BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY.

YES, IT IS.

AND UH, AND I'M JUST GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE THE LEADER OF THIS ORGANIZATION.

WELL, THANK YOU.

I HAVE A GREAT BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND A GREAT TEAM.

SO IT'S NOT I AND TEAM, I CAN'T DO IT ALONE.

SO IT'S MY BLESSING TO SERVE.

AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU JUST ONE MORE SHOUT OUT.

I I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

I AM SO, SO EXCITED.

AND I THINK IT STARTED PROBABLY WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE COUNCIL YES.

THAT I HEARD OF.

AND SO, UM, JUST, JUST TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE, MAKE IT LOOK DIFFERENT AND TO BRING ON JUST, UH, SUCH A DEVELOPMENT.

UH, CAN YOU, IS IT OKAY TO SHOW THE PICTURE OF WHAT THEY MAY END UP LOOKING LIKE? IT'S, YEAH.

IT SHOULD BE THE NEXT SLIDE.

THERE.

THERE YOU GO.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHEN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE LOW INCOME FAMILIES AND STUFF, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, THEY'LL FEEL MORE LIKE BEING IN AUBURN MM-HMM .

SURE.

YOU KNOW, AND PART OF AUBURN.

RIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT'S JUST, IT'S JUST MARVELOUS.

I, I I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH .

AW.

WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I, I HOPE I LIVE TO SEE ALL OF IT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE SAY AYE.

A AYE.

10 A FIVE IS A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL OF A COMMERCIAL AND ENTERTAINMENT.

ITEM

[10.a.5. VapenJays. Commercial and entertainment use (specialty retailer of consumable hemp products). Property located at 1452 Opelika Road, Suite C. (Part 1 of 2)]

USE A SPECIALTY RETAILER OF CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 4 5 2 O LIKE THE ROAD, SUITE C AND THE CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT SUBURBAN ZONING DISTRICT.

THIS PROJECT IS KNOWN AS VAPE JS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AT ITS FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED, MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND, UM, MEGAN, BEFORE WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING, I JUST, THIS IS, UH, THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A CONSIDERATION, UH, ON CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS.

THERE WAS A, I GUESS LEGISLATION PASSED IN MONTGOMERY, UH, LAST YEAR IN THE 2025 SESSION THAT, THAT, UM, STARTED IN JANUARY, ONE OF THIS YEAR, I BELIEVE.

AND, UM, I, I DIDN'T KNOW IF OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAD SOME COMMENTS TO MAKE.

I DON'T, UM, I THINK HE CAN PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE LAW.

WE INTERNALLY, AT THE STAFF LEVEL HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS JUST ABOUT THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS ADOPTED AND NEW STATE LAWS AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ENCOUNTERING AND WHAT YOUR AUTHORITY IS OR IS NOT RELATIVE, UH, TO THE SALE OF HEMP PRODUCTS AND SO ON.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF MR. CLARK WOULD GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE LAW AND KIND OF WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

THIS WAS A BILL THAT WAS PASSED IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN 2025.

THE LAW BECAME EFFECTIVE ON JANUARY ONE OF THIS YEAR.

UH, AND THE LAW IS ALABAMA'S FIRST ATTEMPT TO BROADLY REGULATE WHAT IS KNOWN IN THE ACT AS CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS.

AND THE FIRST THING THE ACT DOES IS DEFINE WHAT A CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCT IS.

UH, AND THAT IS ANY PRODUCT THAT A HUMAN CAN CONSUME THAT CONTAINS A CANNABINOID CANNABINOID, UH, BROADLY DEFINED WITHIN THE ACT INCLUDES BOTH THC, WHICH SOME OF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IS THE ACTIVE PSYCHOACTIVE INGREDIENT IN MARIJUANA.

AND CBD, UH, WHICH IS NOT A PSYCHOACTIVE CHEMICAL, BUT IS A BROADLY, UH, REFINED PRODUCT FROM, UH, HEMP.

THE HEMP PLANT.

UH, THIS BILL DOES A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

IT IMPOSES TESTING AND LABELING REQUIREMENTS ON ALL CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS.

IT ESTABLISHES RESTRICTIONS AS TO THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS THAT CAN SELL CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS.

THERE ARE BROADLY THREE CATEGORIES, UH, OF BUSINESSES THAT CAN SELL THESE PRODUCTS.

ONE IS PHARMACIES, ONE IS FOOD RETAILERS WITH A SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 14,000 SQUARE FEET OR ABOVE.

AND THE OTHER IS A STANDALONE, UH, CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCT LICENSEE.

UH, THE ACT PROHIBITS THE SALE OF CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS TO MINERS.

IT, UH, PROHIBITS THE SALE OF ALL SMOKEABLE, UH, HEMP PRODUCTS.

IT PROHIBITS ONLINE SALES AND DIRECT DELIVERY OF CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS.

BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT BROADLY VESTS THE A BC LICENSURE

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BOARD WITH THE POWER TO, UH, REGULATE ALL THINGS REGARDING THE SALE OF CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS IN INCLUDING THE AUTHORITY TO SEIZE UNLAWFUL CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS.

UM, IT ALLOWS THE A B, C BOARD TO REGULATE AND ISSUE THE LICENSES, UH, FOR THESE RETAILERS.

UM, THE ONLY POWER THAT THE ACT DIRECTLY DELEGATES TO CITIES IS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE LICENSE BEFORE IT IS ISSUED BY A BC.

OTHERWISE, THE STATE AND THE A BC BOARD IS VESTED WITH THE ENFORCEMENT AND CONTROL, UH, OF THE POWERS VESTED BY THIS PARTICULAR ACT.

UH, SO IN CONSIDERING LICENSES, UH, FOR CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCT RETAILERS, UH, THE COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER BEFORE IT APPROVES THIS VERY FIRST LICENSE APPLICATION, UM, SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY LAWS, PARTICULARLY THE CITY CODE AND OR THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CONSIDERED TO DATE.

UM, BROADLY SPEAKING, IN RELATION TO CITY CODE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE POWER THAT THE AUTHORITY IS VESTED IN THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ARE THINGS LIKE RESTRICTIONS ON THE HOURS OF SALE.

UM, PROXIMITY RESTRICTIONS.

YOU COULD EN ENACT RESTRICTIONS AS TO THE PROXIMITY OF THESE RETAILERS TO THINGS LIKE SCHOOLS AND PLAYGROUNDS AND CHURCHES.

UH, THOSE DON'T EXIST IN THE CITY CODE.

UM, AS OF TODAY, UH, YOU CAN IMPOSE ADVER ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR LICENSURE APPLICATIONS.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IN RELATION TO THE REZONING APPLICATIONS, WE HAVE SIGNS OUTSIDE OF OR ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR REZONING.

WE COULD REQUIRE THAT FOR THE LOCATION OF, OF LICENSEE APPLICATIONS, UM, WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

UM, THIS USE A A A CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCT RETAILER IS NOT A DEFINED USE WITHIN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

THE, THE CITY COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER AND APPROVE A LICENSURE APPLICATION UNDER THE ALL OTHER USES DESIGNATION WITHIN OUR TABLE OF PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD MAKE ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS CONDITIONAL USES AND WOULD REQUIRE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.

UM, BUT, UH, STAFF MAY WANT TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT SPECIFICALLY DEFINES CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS AS A USE AND THEN SUGGEST THE ZONING DISTRICTS IN WHICH THESE RETAILERS SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

AND THAT ALL TAKES TIME.

UH, THE STAFF WOULD NEED TO PREPARE THOSE RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO BOTH CITY CODE AND TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE, THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IN RELATION TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGES.

IT WOULD REQUIRE ALSO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW THOSE CHANGES AND, AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR, OR DISAPPROVAL BEFORE THEY REACH THE COUNCIL.

AND SO THAT JUST TAKES TIME AND, AND CERTAINLY, UH, FROM MY OFFICE'S PERSPECTIVE, IF THE COUNCIL WERE IN FAVOR OF CONSIDERING CHANGES EITHER TO THE CODE OR TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN ADVANCE OF REVIEWING AND APPROVING THE FIRST LICENSURE APPLICATION, WE WOULD WANT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND WE WOULD ADVISE THE COUNCIL TO HAVE TIME TO CONSIDER THOSE POTENTIAL CHANGES AND TO PUT THEM IN PLACE BEFORE THE FIRST LICENSES IS REVIEWED AND APPROVED OR DISAPPROVED.

MR. CLARK, WHAT, WHAT ROLE DO OUR LOCAL POLICE OFFICERS HAVE RELATED TO GOVERNING HEMP SALES AND HEMP STORES? UH, CERTAINLY IF, IF THERE ARE, ARE VIOLATIONS REPORTED TO POLICE, THEY CAN PASS THOSE ALONG TO A B, C AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

BUT, BUT CERTAINLY TO THE EXTENT THAT A MINOR POSSESSES, UH, A PROHIBITED CONSUMABLE, UH, HEMP PRODUCT, THOSE PRODUCTS CAN BE SEIZED AND FROM THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL AND CITATIONS ISSUED.

BUT IN RELATION TO RETAILERS WHO MAY OR MAY NOT VIOLATE, UM, THE TERMS OF THE CONSUMABLE CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS ACT, THAT'S VESTED SOLELY WITH, WITH A, B, C.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THIS BUSINESS WAS IN OPERATION, UH, PRIOR TO THE, THE MOST RECENT LEGISLATION BEING ENACTED, CORRECT? CORRECT.

UM, SO CAN THIS COUNCIL EXPECT TO SEE OTHER BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY WHO ARE, HAVE A SIMILAR, UH, USE APPLYING FOR LICENSES AS WELL? I I WOULD, I WOULD EXPECT SO.

I WOULD ALSO EXPECT THAT THE COUNCIL COULD SEE SOME PHARMACIES AND SOME, UH, FOOD RETAILERS WITH A LARGE ENOUGH SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THEIR FACILITIES TO APPLY AS WELL.

YES, SIR.

YOU SAID THESE, UH, PRODUCTS ARE HAVE THC AND THEY ARE PSYCHOACTIVE.

DOES THAT THEY

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THEY CAN.

OH, SO A CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCT CAN HAVE THC, IT CAN HAVE CBD OR IT CAN HAVE BOTH.

UH, THESE PRODUCTS CANNOT, HOWEVER, COMBINE THC AND CBD WITH ALCOHOL OR OTHER, ANY OTHER LICENSED PRODUCT.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU, UH, CAN GET HIGH, CAN CAN YOU HAVE ONE WOULD ASSUME.

IT, IT, THE, THE ACT DOES REDUCE THE, THE, THE, UM, THE VOLUME OF BOTH THC AND CBD THAT, OR ANY CANNABINOID THAT CAN EXIST IN THESE PRODUCTS.

IT REDUCES IT TO NO MORE THAN, UH, 10 MILLIGRAMS PER, UM, SERVING WHATEVER THAT SERVING IS.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GENERALLY, UH, IN THE ACT, IT, IT MENTIONS SPECIFICALLY TOPICAL APPLICATIONS SUCH AS LOTIONS, CREAMS, OINTMENTS, UH, DRINKS, UH, A DRINK THAT CONTAINS THC OR CBD, UM, AND, UM, EDIBLES, GUMMIES, CANDIES OR OTHER EDIBLE PRODUCTS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE TALKING ABOUT DELTA NINE, DELTA EIGHT AND THINGS LIKE THAT? UH, THE, THE ACT SPECIFICALLY REFERS TO DELTA NINE YEAH.

AND ALLOWS DELTA NINE SINCE THAT IS THE MOST NATURAL, I BELIEVE I READ WHERE THAT'S COMPARABLE TO SYNTHETIC MARIJUANA.

IT, IT, THE ACT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS SYNTHESIZING ANY, UH, CANNABINOID FOR INCLUSION IN THESE PRODUCTS.

IT HAS TO BE NATURALLY DERIVED FROM, FROM HEMP ITSELF.

WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT B NINE OR WHATEVER MEAN WHAT'S ALL THAT? IT'S THE, IT'S THE TYPE OF THC IS TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL, IT'S THE PSYCHOACTIVE INGREDIENT IN MARIJUANA.

AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT SUB VARIANTS OF THAT DELTA NINE, DELTA EIGHT, DELTA 10.

AND IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH THE CHEMICAL CONFIGURATION OF THOSE COMPONENTS.

UM, RIGHT NOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAD A, UH, APPROVAL FOR AN A BC LICENSE.

SHOULD WE ANTICIPATE SEEING THOSE ON OUR AGENDA IN THE FUTURE FOR, UM, THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY? I THINK IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

BEFORE CONSIDERING THE FIRST LICENSE.

IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO PUT IN SOME RESTRICTIONS ON HOW THOSE LICENSES ARE REVIEWED, IT MAY NOT BE A LICENSE THAT APPEARS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

BUT IF THE COUNCIL DOES NOT, DOES NOTHING AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I THINK IT WOULD FALL UNDER THE COUNCIL'S PARAMETERS FOR WHAT COULD APPEAR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND I THINK THEORETICALLY SAYING IS IF THIS CONDITIONAL USE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, AS THE STAFF MEMO INDICATED, YOU WOULD SEE A, A LICENSE REQUEST FOR THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM MARCH 3RD? CORRECT.

BEFORE IT, IT REVIEWS ITS FIRST APPLICATION.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHERS UNLESS I'M LOOKING AT MY TEAM THAT HAVE REQUESTED AT THIS STAGE.

SO ZONING IS THE FIRST STEP, UM, FOR US.

SO THEORETICALLY THEY WOULD NOT BE ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA IN THE FUTURE OF ZONING PARAMETERS ARE PUT INTO PLACE AND THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH THOSE? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, SO THESE WOULD COME TO US LIKE ANY OTHER A, BC ZONING THAT'S, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD COME TO YOU ONLY IF IT MEETS ZONING.

SO WHAT YOU GET WITH THE ALCOHOL LICENSES NOW IS YOU HAVE A ZONING CLEARANCE FORM THAT GOES WITH IT THAT ALWAYS VERIFIES THAT THIS IS AN ELIGIBLE USE IN, IN THAT AREA.

SO ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES IS THIS IS CATEGORIZED AS AN ALL OTHER USE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY DEFINED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

'CAUSE IT WASN'T SOMETHING WE KNEW TO DEFINE.

AND SO RIGHT NOW IT'S BEFORE YOU AS IN ALL OTHER USE, WE HAVE NO OTHER CITY PARAMETERS PUT ON, UM, THE SALE OF THIS PRODUCT AT ALL, OTHER THAN WHAT STATE LAW SAYS.

THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER REGULATORY ITEM IN THE MOMENT.

AND YOU'RE NEW TO THIS AS A COUNCIL, THIS IS JUST ENACTED THING FROM THE STATE, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE SEEING A CONDITIONAL USE OR ANY DISCUSSION OF A LICENSE.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU WOULD'VE HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING ANY OF THE ABOVE.

I, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF INFORMATION AND I, I WOULD LIKE COUNSEL TO CONSIDER POSTPONING TONIGHT, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE OUR STAFF TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO ALLOW US TO MAKE A BETTER INFORMED DECISION.

BUT I'M PERSONALLY UNCOMFORTABLE MOVING AHEAD RIGHT NOW AND, AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE TIME TO CONSIDER OPTIONS OR, OR WHATEVER BOUNDARIES, WHATEVER WE NEED TO CALL THIS TO, UM, TO GOVERN THIS BEFORE WE GET IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THESE IN FRONT OF US.

I'M NOT SURE HOW EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN, I MAYBE POSTPONED FOR A MONTH, I DON'T KNOW, TWO MONTHS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT THE RIGHT, YEAH, CERTAINLY, UH, 30 DAYS WOULD ALLOW THE STAFF TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH CHANGES TO THE CITY CODE TO REVIEW AND ADOPT.

UM, IF, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGES IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE ITSELF BECAUSE OF THE, UH, ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE, BECAUSE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, REVIEW OF THOSE BEFORE THEY GET BACK TO CITY COUNCIL, I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY MORE LIKE 60 TO 90 DAYS, UH, BEFORE STAFF WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO RECOMMEND THOSE AND HAVE THE COUNSEL REVIEW AND APPROVE THOSE

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IF WE POSTPONED, WOULD WE, WOULD WE WANT TO GIVE STAFF INSTRUCTION ON WHAT WE NEEDED AT BY THE END OF THAT POSTPONEMENT DATE, UH, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHETHER YEAH, TYLER, I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THAT'D BE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TYPES OF, MR. CLARK HAS DONE SOME RESEARCH BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ACTIVE APPLICANT, UM, AND TALKING TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND SO ON.

BUT, UH, I KNOW YOU ALL LOVE A WORK SESSION, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY SCHEDULE ONE, UM, IN GIVEN TIME.

AND I KNOW WE LAND AT THE NEXT MARCH MEETING.

I KNOW, UM, IF IT'S A MONTH FROM NOW, MS. TAYLOR WON'T BE THERE.

SHE HAS, SHE'S OUTTA TOWN ON OTHER CITY BUSINESS THAT MEETING AND SO ON.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ATTEMPT TO GET A WORK DISCUSSION SCHEDULED IN THE NEXT MONTH TO GET A BETTER GAUGE FROM YOU.

UM, WE DO HAVE AN ACTIVE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, FOR IT.

AND SO, BUT YOU, IT IS WITHIN YOUR AUTHORITY TO POSTPONE A CONDITIONAL USE.

UM, FOR SURE.

IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION, WOULD POSTPONING UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL BE APPROPRIATE? I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE SUFFICIENT TIME FOR STAFF.

THAT'S 60 DAYS TO MONTHS.

UH, WE, WE, THE STAFF COULD CERTAINLY, UH, PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO BOTH THE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED BY THE COUNCIL AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.

AND IF FOR SOME REASON THOSE COULD NOT BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE IT GOT TO THE COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL COULD POSTPONE ANOTHER TIME JUST TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

BUT THAT WOULD BE APRIL 21ST.

MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE.

UH, DO WE KNOW WHAT OUR SISTER CITIES AND AROUND THIS AREA, UH, PEL FOR EXAMPLE, OR ALEXANDER CITY OR MONTGOMERY, WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING? HAVE THEY DONE WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THIS? 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO, I HATE TO CREATE A SITUATION AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO STUDY THIS WHEN YOU LOOK INTO IT.

I WOULDN'T WANT A SITUATION WHERE WE KEEP OUR CITIZENS FROM GETTING THEIR MONEY FROM WHAT THEIR, WHAT THE, THEY SAY THIS STUFF RESPONSIBLY.

IF ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS GO ACROSS THE CITY LIMITS AND GET WHAT, GET IT, WE DEPRIVING OUR CITIZEN THE RIGHT TO MAKE A LIVING IN THIS.

THIS IS A, UH, PROBABLY A MULTIMILLION, IF NOT BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY NATIONWIDE.

AND A LOT OF FOLKS DEPEND ON IT FOR, FOR USING IT IN THE RIGHT WAY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA DO ANY GOOD IF, IF IF SOMEBODY DOWN THE ROAD IS SELLING IT.

AND, AND WE, WE, WE, WE ARE JUST KEEPING OUR FOLKS FROM MAKING THE MONEY AND THIS MONEY'S GOING TO, WELL, WHO KNOWS WHERE? I MEAN, I, I JUST THINK IT, I THINK IT'S, WE, WE SEE THIS WHEN WE THINK OF, AND I, I, I HAVE A LAW ENFORCEMENT BACKGROUND.

WE THINK OF BAD STUFF, BUT SOME OF THIS STUFF IS GOOD.

IT IS BEEN PROVEN TO WORK, AND I JUST THINK IT'S THEIR RIGHT TO SELL IT IF THEY WANT.

I KNOW ONE PHARMACY THAT SELLS IT NOW, CDB OIL, AND IT, IT, UH, I MEAN, IT'S NOT FOR ME.

I, I ACTUALLY TRIED IT 'CAUSE OF MY CONDITION, BUT IT DIDN'T FEEL NOTHING.

SO , UH, I THINK, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO, TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY CAN, CAN DO US ANY GOOD TO TELL THEM NO.

AND THEN ACROSS ALL YOU DO IS GO ACROSS THE CITY LIMITS AND PICK IT UP.

WE BROADLY LOOKED AT WHAT THE BIG 10 CITIES HAVE DONE, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S, THEIR APPROACH HAS BEEN WIDE AND VARIED FROM VERY LITTLE ADDITIONAL REGULATION TO, UH, A SIGNIFICANT, UH, ADDITIONAL REGULATION IN, IN IMPROVING THESE LICENSES IN MY WORK IN OUR SISTER CITY.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, I'VE SEEN QUITE A, QUITE A PROLIFERATION OF THIS, UH, USE.

AND, UM, IT'S, I I CAN'T BUT HELP BUT NOT FEEL, UH, A LITTLE SORRY FOR SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES WHO, WHO WERE, UH, UP UNTIL RECENTLY SUCCESSFUL AND, AND WERE, UM, THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN SUDDENLY THE, THE TYPE OF SALES THEY'VE HAD TO ADJUST THEIR BUSINESS MODEL TO MEET STATE REGULATIONS.

AND, UM, I I'M PRESUMING THAT VAPE AND JS WAS A, A BUSINESS THAT WAS GOING ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS, UH, UNTIL THESE REGULATIONS HAVE PROBABLY SEVERELY AFFECTED THEM.

AND, UM, I HATE TO SEE SMALL BUSINESSES STRUGGLE MUCH IN THE MANNER THAT CHIEF DAWSON IS SPEAKING, UM, WHEN THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT.

AND THESE, THIS APPLICANT IS CLEARLY DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT TO BRING IT TO US AND FOLLOW THE NECESSARY STEPS.

I I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THAT WE'RE NOT DELAYING THAT EVERY, THE, EVERY DAY DELAYED ON A DECISION IN THIS WAY AFFECTS THEIR, THEIR ABILITY TO FUNCTION AS A BUSINESS.

YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING THAT STAFF IS CONCERNED ABOUT IT, IT'S NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THIS APPLICANT NECESSARILY.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE NO REPORTS, UH, THAT VAPE AND JAY'S, UH, WELL, IT WAS A, A A, A THRIVING ENTERPRISE WAS DOING ANYTHING NEFARIOUS, ILLEGAL, UNLAWFUL, RIGHT.

UH, ANYTHING BAD, UH, BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS NEW ACT IS A SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM THE REGULATIONS THAT EXISTED BEFORE IT, UM,

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IT'S ALL OF THE OTHER APPLICANTS TO COME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT IN THE RIGHT WAY.

AND WE'RE CERTAINLY MINDFUL OF, OF THE TIME EFFECT TIME HAS ON THESE POTENTIAL APPLICANTS.

AND I, I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT JUST KIDS RUNNING INTO A VAPE OR WHATEVER.

I THINK IT'S, WE HAVE ADULTS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE AND WHATNOT, BUT THEY NEED CERTAINLY SEEMS OF FOR JOINT PAIN AND OTHER THING THAT THEY SELL IT FOR.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD, I THINK THE COUNSELOR SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER THAT AND MAKING A DECISION.

I DO WANNA CLARIFY THOUGH, THERE, UH, JUST FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE AND SO ON, YOU CAN'T ZONE IT OUT OF THE CITY.

SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK LEAVING HERE DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO, THAT THAT IS THE SUGGESTION.

IT IS TO PUT PARAMETERS ON IT OR NOT AT YOUR DISCRETION AS A COUNCIL, BUT THE FACT THAT THE STATE IS ALLOWING IT, WE CAN'T NOT ALLOW A USE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.

YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT TO PROVIDE AND ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT.

UM, AND THAT IS NORMAL IN ALL ZONING ITEMS. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HYBRID DISCUSSION HERE, JUST OF IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IT, DO YOU WANT DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FROM RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS OR, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS OR WHATEVER IT IS, DO YOU WANT THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR NOT? DO YOU WANNA PUT ANY OTHER SAFEGUARDS ON IT? IF YOU GO FORWARD TONIGHT AND WANT TO MOVE ON THIS APPLICATION, YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO THAT.

UM, WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO GIVE YOU ANY OF THOSE PARAMETERS TONIGHT, BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY AT YOUR DISCRETION.

UM, AND YOU CAN'T THEN REVERSE DE FACTO APPLY THESE THINGS, I WOULD THINK.

SO THAT, THAT IS THE QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS.

BUT I WANNA BE, UM, EXTREMELY ACCURATE IN SAYING THAT YOU, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT ANYONE IS TRYING TO ZONE OUT OF THE CITY WHATSOEVER.

AND IT HAD BEEN GOING ON AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE STATE'S NOW PUT A NEW LAW AND IT IS A TIME THAT IT NOW HAS TO COME BEFORE YOU BECAUSE OUR ZONING ORDINANCE WASN'T READY TO ADDRESS IT.

I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH THE MAYOR.

I THINK WE'D NEED TO PUT IT OFF AND, AND STUDY A LITTLE MORE, GET, GET TO OUR QUESTIONS, ANSWERED EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, THE .

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. CLARK? THANK YOU MR. CLARK.

MEGAN.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

UH, WOULD I JUST OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO THAT? AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION OR JUST TO POSTPONEMENT SOMEBODY YOU CAN ALWAYS, UM, MOVE, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE A, A MAIN MOTION OUT THERE, A MOVE TO POSTPONE IS ALWAYS IN ORDER.

SO OKAY.

IF YOU WANNA DO THAT AND YOU ALSO NEED TO DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, I'D MOVE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO POSTPONE TO THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL, WHICH IS THE 21ST.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? SO JUST CLARIFYING, WE'RE NOT OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.

AND I WOULD AN ADDENDUM TO THAT, I WOULD OFFER TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOW THIS.

IF YOU HAVE HAVEN'T OPENED IT, YOU'LL HAVE TO OPEN ONE.

THE OTHER THING IS IF THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT, WE DO HAVE THREE MINUTES AT THE END OF THE MEETING THAT ANYBODY CAN SPEAK ABOUT ANY ITEM THEY WISH.

AND SO THEY, THEY CAN BE HEARD TONIGHT.

UM, IF YOU'RE NOT OPENING THIS PUBLIC HEARING, YOU'RE GONNA SAVE IT FOR LATER.

BUT IF THEY'RE HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN AND HAVE THINGS THEY'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER, THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO COME ON THE, THE 21ST OF APRIL.

YES, SIR.

SO I GOT A MOTION TO SECOND OR ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

WE'LL CONSIDER THIS ON APRIL 21ST.

THANK Y'ALL FOR THE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU MR. CLARK FOR QUESTIONS.

CONTRACTS? ITEM 10 B ONE AUTHORIZES A CONTRACT WITH C AND H CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 STREETS FREE STRIPING PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $274,374 AND 43 CENTS.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU READY TO CONTINUE CONTRACTS WITH

[10.b.1. C&H Construction Services. FY 26 Streets Re-striping Project. $274,374.43.]

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS? ALRIGHT.

I HAVE MOTION SECOND.

B TWO AUTHORIZES A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH POWER SOUTH ENERGY COOPERATIVE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A SANITARY SEWER MAIN IN AUBURN TECHNOLOGY PARK WEST.

ITEM 10

[10.b.2. PowerSouth Energy Cooperative. License agreement. Sanitary sewer main in Auburn Technology Park West.]

MOVE FOR APPROVE SECOND.

MOTION.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UH, APPARENTLY THIS IS, UH, CALLED PHASE SIX.

IT'S THE FOURTH CHINOIS BUILDING IN OUR TOWN.

AND, UM, AND THEY DO, THIS WILL BE FOR, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'LL BE FOR, IS IT A TOOLING AND MOLD REPAIR SHOP? WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE BUILDING.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING TONIGHT IS JUST THE FACT THAT IN ORDER FOR THE PUBLIC SEWER LINE THAT IS, IS NEEDED FOR THIS TO GO THROUGH POWER SOUTH'S PROPERTY.

THEY CALL IT A LICENSE AGREEMENT INSTEAD OF AN EASEMENT.

ERIC, IS THAT ACCURATE? AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING.

BUT IT IS COUNCILMAN MORMAN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FOURTH BUILDING FOR SHINWA AND THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT.

SHINWA IS PAYING FOR THE INSTALLATION.

IT'S NOT A, A CITY OR INDUSTRIAL BOARD PAYMENT.

YEP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

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YOU HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME ON THE NEXT ONE.

BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS RESOLUTION IS, WE NEED IT INTRODUCED AND UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

SO I'M GONNA REMIND YOU OF THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AGENDA ITEM FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

10 C AUTHORIZES A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH BOW AND ARROW BARBECUE, LSC FOR BOW AND ARROW UNIVERSITY TO BE LOCATED AT 2 2 9 8 EAST UNIVERSITY DRIVE.

ITEM

[10.c. Bow & Arrow BBQ, LLC. Commercial development agreement. Bow & Arrow - University. Unanimous consent necessary. Public hearing required.]

THIS IS A SECOND LOCATION, UH, BOW AND ARROW.

UNANIMOUS CONSENT IS NECESSARY AND A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE RESOLUTION RESOLUTION AND ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT.

RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

ANYONE HAVE BROUGHT MOVING FORWARD THE VOTE ON THIS IS EVENING.

OKAY, SENATOR.

HEARING NONE.

ALICE MORMON.

OH, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

NO.

OH, NOPE.

WE'RE JUST, NOBODY HAD PROBLEM WITH MOVING FORWARD, SO WE'RE GOOD.

SO WE'RE GOOD? OKAY.

SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? QUESTIONS, HEARING QUESTIONS? I'LL GO THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW.

HEARING QUESTIONS? YES SIR.

WE DON'T DO THESE MEETINGS THAT OFTEN.

SO WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I APOLOGIZE.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND WE'LL, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

ARE YOU HERE ABOUT THE BOW AND ARROW AGENDA ITEM? NO, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, NOT THERE WITH YOU.

SORRY.

WE, WE'LL LET, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.

YOUR TIME'S COMING.

WE'LL BE GOOD , WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET, IT'S ALL GOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? NO.

ANYONE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM THE DIOCESE? OKAY.

ANYTHING FOR US? NO, UH, MR. BANCROFT IS HERE, I BELIEVE.

YEAH, JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE HIM.

THIS IS HIS, UH, HE'S INVESTED MUCH IN AUBURN.

IT'S HIS THIRD MAJOR INVESTMENT.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO, TO BRING OUT THAT WE DON'T CALL PEOPLE AND, AND ASK THEM, HEY, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR THE CITY TO WORK WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU SOME SALES TAX DOLLARS FOR YOUR INVESTMENT? THIS IS OFTEN, UM, THE CULMINATION OF GAPS IN THEIR FINANCING.

THIS IS A LONG TIME VACANT BUILDING.

UM, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE PREVIOUS OPERATOR DID NOT SUCCEED IN THIS LOCATION.

HOWEVER, MR. BANCROFT WAS APPROACHED, UM, BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND ASKED TO CONSIDER THIS FOR ANOTHER LOCATION.

AND HE CONTACTED ME AT THAT TIME AND JUST SAID, IS THIS SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD CONSIDER? AND I TOLD HIM, YES, I WOULD BRING THIS FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.

UM, BUT I THINK SOMETIMES THERE'S CONFUSION.

WHY DO WE NOT DO THIS FOR EVERY BUSINESS? IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S OUT THERE WHEN IT'S NEEDED, BUT IT'S NOT, KEVIN HOWARD ISN'T REACHING OUT AND TELLING EVERYBODY, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME OF OUR SALES TAX REVENUE.

UM, IT'S A CONCERTED EFFORT HERE.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS A VACANT BUILDING ON A SIDE OF TOWN THAT HAS LIMITED RESTAURANT OPPORTUNITIES AND LOCATIONS.

WARD FOUR IS A LITTLE SHY IN SOME AREAS, AND THIS IS ON THE EDGE BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR AND A HIGH GROWTH AREA.

AND I WOULD LOVE FOR PEOPLE TO NOT DRIVE ACROSS THE CITY FOR RESTAURANT OPPORTUNITIES IF, IF THEY DON'T NEED TO.

AND IT HELPS EVERY OTHER BUSINESS IN THE AREA THE MORE WE GET.

I'D ALSO SAY WITH THE FIRST BOW AND ARROW WHEN WE DID THAT PROJECT, UH, WHAT WAS IMPORTANT IS MR. BANCROFT TOOK QUITE A RISK.

HE AND HIS PARTNERS OF GOING INTO AN AREA OF SANFORD AVENUE THAT HAD NO RETAIL BUSINESSES.

HE WAS THE RETAIL BUSINESS.

WE HAD A CHURCH AND THEN A HIGH SCHOOL AND NOTHING ELSE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT HOW THAT'S BUILT UP AND HE'S BEEN AN ANCHOR IN THAT AREA, UM, IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SYNERGY AND IT STARTED WITH, WITH THAT ANCHOR BUILDING.

AND I HOPE WE SEE THE SAME FOR OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND THIS, IF YOU, IF YOU PROCEED WITH IT.

I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS, MEGAN.

CERTAINLY DAVID BANCROFT HAS MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'RE HONORED THAT HE HAS CHOSEN AUBURN TO, UH, TO MAKE HIS INVESTMENTS, UH, HIS RESTAURANTS OR PLACES THAT PROBABLY EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM WE'VE BEEN TO AND, UH, HAVE ENJOYED TIMES WITH YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

AND HE, HE PUTS US IN A PLACE THAT, UH, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULDN'T IMAGINE A TOWN OF OUR SIZE WOULD HAVE, UH, TO HAVE A, A FIRST CLASS RESTAURANT LIKE THAT, LIKE ACRE, AND THEN TO BROADEN OUT FOR ANOTHER CONCEPT IN BOW AND ARROW.

AND, UH, UH, I APPRECIATE MEGAN POINTING OUT THAT THIS SIDE OF TOWN DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A BUNCH OF RESTAURANTS AND, UH, THIS WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION.

I I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THIS WAS AN EMPTY BUILDING THAT WAS SITTING THERE JUST EMPTY.

AND HE IS GONNA ADD VITALITY AND EXCITEMENT TO THIS BUILDING AND THIS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, AND SO I, I APPRECIATE DAVID, EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO, TO MAKE AUBURN A A SPECIAL PLACE.

YOU WERE PART OF OUR DNA NOW, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR STAFF THAT HAVE, UH, THAT ARE MAKING MEALS FOR SO MANY OF US AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

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JUST GET ONE OFF.

CAN WE GET ONE OFF? UH, EXIT 51 OR 50 .

GOT BUCKY.

HE'S SMILING AT YOU.

YOU GOT BARBECUE.

HE'LL SAY HIS, HIS BRISKET IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN BUCKY'S BRISKET.

SO THERE YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME OUT THAT WAY.

UH, MR. BANCROFT MAKING A SIZABLE INVESTMENT JUST TO GET UP AND RUNNING.

SO IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE A FREE LUNCH, PARDON THE TIME.

YES SIR.

AND HE'S BEEN MAKING IT ALREADY BEFORE THIS HAS, HAS COME BEFORE YOU, MEANING HE'S BEEN OBLIGATED FOR SOME, SOME TIME, SO, YEAH.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.

WHERE DO I NEED TO GO FROM HERE? MR. ROLL CALL.

JUST ROLL CALL.

10 D AUTHORIZES THE USE OF VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES TO TOTAL $2.25 MILLION TO ASSIST THE AUBURN HOUSING AUTHORITY WITH THE RIDGECREST APARTMENT'S REDEVELOPMENT.

ALLISON MORMON? YES, MA'AM.

[10.d. Auburn Housing Authority. Ridgecrest Redevelopment Contribution Commitment.]

PHASE ONE, WHICH WILL REDEVELOP 56 UNITS WITH A TOTAL INVESTMENT OF $21 MILLION.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OUR CONTRIBUTION IS A LITTLE OVER 10% OR A LITTLE UNDER 10%, BUT YEAH, AND I CAN HAVE, MS. BERT CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT TOO THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT GAP.

I THINK COUNCILMAN MORMAN ASKED ME A QUESTION, YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A BLEND OF FUNDS AND I KIND OF, ALL OF YOU GOT THAT RESPONSE WHERE, UM, HOW THIS IS GOING DOWN AND WHY THERE IS A GAP.

THE REASON I AM PROPOSING TO YOU TO PLUG THAT GAP, IT'S A $221,000 AND CHANGE COMMITMENT OVER EIGHT YEARS BY THE CITY.

UM, THERE ISN'T AN EASY WAY FOR THEM TO GET THE MONEY IN DE FACTO.

WHAT'S NOT IN YOUR MEMO IS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY ACTUALLY HAS TO BORROW THOSE FUNDS.

THEY WILL BE PAYING INTEREST AND WHILE THE CITY'S GIVING AN ANNUAL ALLOCATION, THEY WILL ALSO BE EXPENDING THEIR OWN FUNDS TO PAY THE INTEREST.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, ONE OF THE $225,000 CHUNKS IN HERE IS ALSO A 1 0 8 LOAN AT 5% INTEREST FROM A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY.

THE REASON WE BLENDED THAT ALONG WITH A BLOCK GRANT, ACTUAL GRANT IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT YOU NEED TO GET POINTS AND MS. HALBERT TALKED ABOUT POINTS NEEDED AND WHY WE NEEDED OUR APPLICATION TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

SO WE WORKED IN COLLABORATION WITH HER DEVELOPMENT PARTNER TO FIND OUT HOW MANY POINTS WAS IT GONNA TAKE AT A MINIMUM TO GET THERE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE BLENDED THE FUNDS THE WAY THAT WE DID.

UH, MR. DAVIS IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE BLOCK GRANT AMOUNT THAT, THAT WE WOULD BE PROVIDING.

AND IT IS NOT TAKING AWAY FROM OTHER MAJOR PROJECTS.

IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHAT ELSE? WHAT ELSE DID YOU SAY AL INFRASTRUCTURE MOSTLY? YES, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD BE PIVOTING IN A DIFFERENT FISCAL YEAR, UM, FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS.

SHOULD SHE BE FUNDED? UH, WE'LL KNOW THIS JUNE WE WOULD DO A MID BIENNIUM ADJUSTMENT FOR THE GENERAL FUND ALLOCATION.

WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH 1 0 8 LOAN PAPERS AND WE'LL HAVE TO AMEND THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN FOR BLOCK GRANTS.

THERE WOULD BE FURTHER ACTIONS, BUT THIS IS THE LEAST AMOUNT NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH THE OBJECTIVES TO GET THE PROJECT THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT IN THE CONDITIONAL USE MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AND THIS IS ONE OF OUR LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR SOME FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO LIVE IN SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

'CAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING, AT LEAST WE HAVE A WILLING LANDOWNER WHO WILL WORK WITH US TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING, UM, FOR SOME FOLKS.

AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE.

AND SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON WHY WE, WE RECOMMENDED THE FUNDING STRUCTURE WE DID.

DALES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WELL, MEGAN, I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY AND I WOULD, I'D LIKE, IF YOU TAKE JUST A MINUTE SO THE CITIZENS CAN HEAR, COULD YOU GET DIRECTOR MATTHEWS TO SPEAK ABOUT, UH, WHAT, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE THIS MAKES IN CRIME? AND JUST GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

IN CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AT, AT THAT PROPERTY.

SO YEARS AGO WE WORKED, UM, COLLABORATIVELY, UM, WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY ON SOME CHANGES AT, AT THE, THE MOTEN, UM, HOUSING UNIT COMPLEX WHERE WE REDUCED UNITS, UH, TO TRY TO IMPROVE QUALITY.

IT WAS A DIFFERENT STYLE OF PROJECT, BUT IT'S REALLY WHY WE HAVE THE 1 0 8 LOAN FUNDS TO BEGIN WITH.

WE LOAN FUNDS, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY PAID US BACK, BUT WE WERE TRYING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THERE BY LOWERING DENSITY AND IMPROVING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS HAVE COME TRUE IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECTS.

DIRECTOR MATTHEWS? SURE.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE TRENDS OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, UH, WE PEAKED AT 2020, UM, AND THAT WAS KIND OF AN ANOMALOUS YEAR.

UM, BUT SINCE THAT TIME, UH, UP TO 2025, WHICH IS OUR LAST FULL YEAR OF DATA, WE'VE HAD A 60% DECREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE AT MO APARTMENTS.

IF YOU TAKE OUT 2020 AGAIN, KIND OF AN ANOMALOUS HIGH YEAR AND LOOK AT 21 TO 25, IT'S STILL A 38% DECREASE

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SO, UH, IT REALLY POINTS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

IT'S A RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND I WOULD NOT BE AFRAID TO RIDE MY SCOOTER THROUGH ANY HOUSING PROJECT WE HAVE IN AUBURN.

YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY WELL, UH, RUN.

YOU DO A WONDERFUL JOB OVER THERE AND I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I JUST WANT TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE FUTURE.

'CAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU GIVE PEOPLE A NICE PLACE TO LIVE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT NICE AND KEEP THE RIFF R RUNOFF AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IF THEY FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE, WHERE THEY'RE STAYING, UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE A STEP IN AUBURN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, SHOWING 'EM WE, EVERY, EVERYBODY, SOME, SOMETIMES FOLKS THAT HAVE, DON'T HAVE AS MUCH AS OTHERS.

THANK YOU G.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE A COMMENT QUESTION? YEAH.

SO WE'LL SEE A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT OVER THE NEXT, UH, EIGHT YEARS.

YOU'D SEE A BUD.

YEAH, YOU'D SEE A MID BIENNIUM BUDGET ADJUSTMENT THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.

UM, AFTER THAT IT WOULD BE BUILT AS WE HAVE OTHER FUNDING AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER AGENCIES.

IT'S AUTOMATICALLY PLACED IN THE BUDGET.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THE COUNCIL STILL DOESN'T HAVE TO ADOPT A BUDGET, BUT IT'S AUTOMATICALLY PUT IN THERE BY THE STAFF.

ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? UM, I BECAME AWARE OF SOME COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN THIS AREA, UH, THIS YEAR THAT I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT, BUT THERE IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM RIDGECREST THAT PROVIDES AFTERSCHOOL CARE AND PROGRAMS FOR KIDS OF ALL AGES.

IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT MINISTRY.

IT'S CALLED OUR HOUSE AND IT'S, UH, I THINK RIGHT ACROSS BEDELL STREET, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT.

SO IT, IT'S A REMARKABLE THING AND, AND IT'S A, A REAL BUY-IN TO THE COMMUNITY FROM AUBURN AT LARGE.

SO IT'S A GREAT THING, REALLY IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION.

MAYOR, THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS OF BUSINESS WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN

[12. CITIZENS' OPEN FORUM.]

CITIZENS OPEN FORUM.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT ANYTHING, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YES, MA'AM.

IT IS YOUR TURN.

AND, UH, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL AND PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL.

I'M NERVOUS.

OH GOSH.

AND FAMILIES RUN ON SAFE CROSSINGS EVERY DAY.

MY NAME IS KENDALL HOLE AND MY ADDRESS IS 8 0 2 WEST LONGLEAF DRIVE, UNIT 42.

UM, I'M AN AUBURN RESIDENT AND STUDENT AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND AN INCIDENT THAT CHANGED MY LIFE.

AND I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT THAT LONGLEAF IS HORRIBLE WITH ONE OF THE POTHOLES EVEN BLOWING ONE OF MY TIRES.

AND I'VE LIVED THERE FOR TWO YEARS.

IT WAS NOT COMPLETELY MY FAULT, I'M SORRY, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

LAST YEAR WHILE RUNNING AGAINST TRAFFIC ON SEPTEMBER 12TH ON SOUTH COLLEGE STREET, CROSSING BY THE BEACON, I WAS RAN OVER BY A VEHICLE.

EVEN THOUGH I HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY, HE WAS TURNING RIGHT AND I WAS RUNNING WITH TWO OTHER PEOPLE IN A CLEARLY VISIBLE CROSSING AREA AT AROUND 2:00 PM IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN HE TURNED RIGHT OUTTA THE BEACON AND HE FAILED TO YIELD AND BROKE MY LEG.

I WAS IN A HARD CAST UP TO MY KNEE AND AN ACL BRACE CONNECTED TO THE CAST UP TO MY GROIN.

FOR THREE MONTHS, I WAS NON-WEIGHT BEARING FOR 30 DAYS AND ON CRUTCHES UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST.

I HAD JUST FINISHED PHYSICAL THERAPY ON FEBRUARY 9TH.

THERE ARE NO CLEARLY MARKED STOP SIGNS OR HIGH VISIBILITY ROADWAY MARKINGS AT THIS LOCATION TO SHOW DRIVERS WHERE THEY MUST STOP BEFORE ENTERING THE ROADWAY.

WITHOUT THESE VISUAL CUES, VEHICLES PULL UP TOO FAR WHILE TURNING, ELIMINATING THE SAFETY BUFFER, PEDESTRIANS RELY ON AND REDUCING VISIBILITY AT A CRITICAL MOMENT.

IF PROPER MARKINGS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE, THE DRIVER WOULD HAVE STOPPED BEHIND THEM LEAVING A PROTECT PROTECTED SPACE FOR PEDESTRIANS.

INSTEAD, THE LACK OF ROADWAY GUIDANCE CONTRIBUTED TO A PREVENTABLE COLLISION THAT ALTERED LIVES FOREVER.

HE WAS INCHES AWAY FROM CRUSHING MY HEAD, BUT SLAMMED ON THE BRAKES JUST IN TIME.

RUNNING WAS NOT JUST EXERCISE FOR ME, IT WAS MY THERAPY ACTUALLY RAN WITH JEREMY CARSON MY ENTIRE LIFE.

UM, MY DISCIPLINE, MY COMMUNITY, AND PART OF MY FUTURE GOALS BECAUSE OF THIS CRASH, I'LL NEVER RUN THE WAY I ONCE DID OR PROBABLY AT ALL IN A SMALL TOWN LIKE AUBURN, WHERE RUNNING IS SO INCREDIBLY BIG, THIS IS SUPER, THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

THIS INJURY DISRUPTED MY ENTIRE LIFE AND EVERY DAY HAS REQUIRED REBUILDING PIECES THAT WERE TAKEN IN THE MATTER OF SECONDS.

UM, AND NOBODY WINS IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.

I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO PRIORITIZE, PRIORITIZE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS INTERSECTION.

OTHERS LIKE IT INSTALLING CLEAR STOP LINES AND HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALK MARKINGS, IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN RIGHT OF AWAY SIGNAGE IS THE SAME WAY RIGHT THERE BY STARBUCKS AS WELL.

UM, WITH AUBURN JUST BEING A WALKING AND RUNNING COMMUNITY, STUDENTS AND RESIDENTS

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AND TECHNICALLY I HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, A COLLEGE STUDENT IN KANSAS WAS KILLED, WAS KILLED IN A HIT AND RUN WHILE SHE WAS RUNNING ON NOVEMBER 4TH AFTER MY ACCIDENT.

HER NAME WAS EL MCGRAIN AND SHE WAS RUNNING ON AN UNMARKED CROSSWALK.

UM, I'M SO LUCKY TO NOT JUST BE ANOTHER NUMBER, GOD KEPT ME HERE FOR A REASON.

SO I'M DOING WHAT I THINK IS MY DUE DILIGENCE.

I'D ALSO DO IT FOR LSA, SOMEONE WHOSE VOICE WAS TAKEN FROM THEM AND ESPECIALLY FROM SOMETHING SO PREVENTABLE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT.

WHO'D BE NEXT? GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME'S ELIZABETH HAM AND I RESIDE AT 20 LEE ROAD.

2120 IN OPELIKA.

I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU GUYS DO.

AND LADIES, UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT ON THE VAPING JAYS.

UM, MEGAN HARTIE HAS BEEN A TENTATIVE OF MINE FOR NINE YEARS, AND DURING THAT TIME SHE HAS BEEN A GODSEND TO MY PROPERTY.

THERE ARE OTHER SPACES THERE.

I AM NOT THERE DURING THE DAY.

SHE IS MY EYES AND EARS AND AN EXTREMELY RESPONSIBLE PERSON AND HUMAN BEING WHO HAS GONE THROUGH TREMENDOUS TRIALS.

AND THIS HAS BEEN ANOTHER ONE.

UM, THIS LAW THAT WAS PASSED, WHICH OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL DID NOT PASS IT, THE STATE DID, HAS CAUSED HER TO NOT BE ABLE TO SELL HALF OF HER PRODUCTS LEGALLY.

SHE HAS REMOVED THEM FROM THE SHELVES AND DOES NOT HAVE THAT INCOME.

SO THAT THREATENS HER BUSINESS.

IT THEN THREATENS HER EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS ME.

IT THREATENS ME TOO AS BEING THE BUILDING OWNER AND THE PERSON SHE WRITES HER CHECKS TO, HER RENT CHECKS TO.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU NEED SOME TIME TO LOOK AT THIS, BUT I WOULD CHALLENGE EACH OF YOU TO SPEAK WITH HER WHO HAS BEEN DEALING IN THIS BUSINESS WITH THIS, THIS TYPE OF PRODUCTS FOR ALMOST A DECADE.

AND TALK TO HER.

SHE HAS AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE AND SHE WANTS TO DO IT RIGHT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

THAT'S WHY SHE'S HERE AND APPLYING FOR THIS.

MEGAN, I GUESS I, WELL, ON JUST A SECOND, JUST A SECOND.

OR WE STOP THE CLOCK, GREG.

WE JUST HAVE TO ARE ELIZABETH, ARE YOU FINISHED? YES.

WITH YOURS.

WE'LL START THE CLOCK OVER.

START FOR YOU.

I WANNA GIVE YOU YOUR FULL THREE MINUTES.

SO THAT'S, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

ELIZABETH, MEGAN HARDISTY.

UM, DO YOU NEED ME TO DO MY NAME? YEAH.

NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND THEN HE'LL GET IT STARTED.

SORRY.

MY HOME ADDRESS IS 2 1 2 0 TAL LANE, WAVERLEY, ALABAMA, BUT IT'S TECHNICALLY STILL IN YOU GUYS' DISTRICT IN AUBURN.

UM, AS EXPLAINED TO YOU GUYS, I'VE OPERATED THIS BUSINESS FOR 10 YEARS.

UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THIS LAW IS SET UP, I'M BEING FORCED TO SEPARATE IT INTO THE UNIT NEXT DOOR.

NOT JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THE LAW IS WRITTEN, BUT IT IS BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA ADD ALCOHOL TO MY BUSINESS MODEL.

I COULD HAVE JUST REQUESTED THAT ADDITIONAL LICENSE THROUGH A, B, C AND JUST TURNED MY STORE INTO A PACKAGE STORE AND YOU WOULD'VE ONLY SEEN ME FOR THAT LICENSE APPROVAL.

BUT BECAUSE I STAND FIRM IN MY BELIEF OF THE HARM REDUCTION THAT I DO ADD TO THIS COMMUNITY AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT I DO HELP WITH PAIN AND IN MY VAPE SHOP WITH REDUCING THEIR HARM FROM TOBACCO, UM, BUT THIS IS GONNA BE DEVASTATING TO MY BUSINESS TO WAIT UNTIL APRIL WHEN I'VE ALREADY BEEN DOWN SINCE THE 1ST OF JANUARY.

THIS IS LITERALLY 50% OF MY INCOME.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS, IF YOU DO NEED SOME RESOURCES BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME.

LET ME BE A SOURCE TO HELP YOU GUYS MAYBE GUIDE SOME ZONING RESTRICTIONS IF NEED TO BE PLACED ON THIS.

I DO RECOMMEND THE ONLY THING THAT YOU DO TRY TO REGULATE THAT THE STATE HAS NOT ALREADY IS PERHAPS MAKE IT THE SAME AS A VAPOR LICENSE WHERE WE HAVE TO BE SO MANY FEET AWAY FROM A SCHOOL OR A CHURCH, WHICH MY BUSINESSES ALREADY ARE.

OR IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE 'EM TONIGHT.

I WOULD LOVE TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE CONFUSION THAT IS AROUND THIS BUSINESS IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN.

IF THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS, PEOPLE WILL, WILL, WILL KNOW HOW TO REACH OUT TO YOU.

AND IF YOU'RE HERE AFTER WE GET THROUGH HERE IN JUST A MINUTE, THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONVERSATIONS THEN I'LL DEFINITELY HANG OUT.

OF MY INCOME AND I AM A SINGLE MOTHER.

I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

UM, OKAY.

SO WHAT'S THE IMPACT GONNA BE IF WE WAIT TWO MONTHS VERSUS ONE MONTH OR THIS LAW? IT HAS ME DOWN TO MYSELF AND ONE EMPLOYEE RIGHT NOW.

I'VE HAD TO LET EVERYBODY GO.

THAT'S WORKED FOR ME.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA MAKE IT UNTIL APRIL, BUT I'M GONNA TRY.

THIS IS LITERALLY 50%

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I'M LITERALLY HAVING TO PUT MY HOUSE ON THE MARKET BECAUSE OF HAVING TO WAIT UNTIL THIS POINT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I HAVE A QUESTION MM-HMM .

IF YOU DON'T MIND.

NO, ABSOLUTELY.

IN, IN THE IDEAL WORLD THAT, UM, YOU GET YOUR LICENSE, UM, AND EVERYTHING IS HAS WORKED OUT ON ON FROM OUR SIDE OF THE, THE BUSINESS.

WILL YOU BE ABLE TO FUNCTION AS A BUSINESS UNDER THESE NEW RESTRICTIONS? YES.

I NEED THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL INCOME WITH THIS LICENSE BECAUSE IT TOOK BOTH OF THOSE PRODUCTS IN MY PREVIOUS BUSINESS MODEL TO BE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF THE WAY THERE'S SO MANY LICENSES OR SO MANY STORES IN TOWN, WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF SPLIT OUR INCOME A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS WITH A LOT OF OUR PRODUCTS.

GREAT.

I'LL, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU AFTERWARDS AS WELL.

DO YOU, AND THIS, DO YOU ALREADY HAVE THE LICENSE OR ARE YOU WAITING FOR US? I HAVE A, I HAVE A SPECIALTY VAPOR LICENSE.

AND I AM NOT ALLOWED TO KEEP THE PRODUCTS TOGETHER LIKE I HAVE DONE FOR ALMOST THE LAST NINE YEARS.

THE, THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO REQUIRE THAT I EITHER MOVE IT SEPARATELY INTO A STANDALONE BUSINESS OR I CAN HOUSE THEM ON NICOTINE NEXT TO MY HEMP WITH ALCOHOL.

AND I JUST DO NOT WANT THAT, THAT PRODUCT BASE ADDED TO MY HARM REDUCTION MINDSET THAT I LIKE TO, TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO IF YOU HAD NICOTINE AND ALCOHOL, YOU COULD KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER.

JUST REALLY ADMIRED AND THAT'S WHAT THE WINTER OLYMPICS DOES TO ME.

I COULD JUST APPLY FOR A LIQUOR LICENSE AND THE CONSUMABLE HEMP LICENSE AT THE SAME TIME AND WOULD JUST COME BEFORE YOU GUYS FOR THAT LICENSE APPROVAL.

I CHOSE TO DO THINGS THE HARD WAY AND I GUESS I AM REAPING THE BENEFITS OF THAT.

STEVE COSGROVE, 1927 WATERCRESS DRIVE.

EVERY TIME I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND PAY ATTENTION AND JUST BE A PART OF YOUR MEETINGS AND SO FORTH, IT REITERATES AND, AND RECONFIRMS TO ME MY ADMIRATION THAT I HAVE FOR EACH OF YOU AND, AND THIS BODY AND, AND, AND THE WELLBEING THAT YOU HAVE IN STORE FOR THIS, UH, THE, THE VILLAGE OF AUBURN.

I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I HOPE YOU'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT I'M SAYING.

I REALLY, REALLY ADMIRE AND THAT THAT'S THE WORD I'VE BEEN COMING UP WITH.

I JUST ADMIRE WHAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU DO IT.

I REALLY LIKE YOUR NEW LOGO.

I LOVE THAT TREE THING.

MY FIRST MAJOR IN COLLEGE WAS FORESTRY AND, UH, FOR OVER A THIRD OF THE CENTURY, STARTING WHEN COLEMAN OR COLEMAN AND JENNA WERE AT RICE MILL ROAD WITH THAT BEAUTIFUL EMILY LACEY IS THEIR PRINCIPAL.

I DID TREE IDENTIFICATION WALKS WITH THE KIDS THERE, THIRD AND FOURTH GRADE KIDS THERE GOING TO THE ARBORETUM AND THEY WOULD WALK OVER THERE AND WE HAD A LITTLE, THAT WAS, THAT WAS KIND OF NEAT.

BUT I DID THAT WITH SEVERAL SCHOOLS HERE, LITERALLY FOR OVER A 30 CENTURY NOW.

SO I, I REALLY, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE TREES AND SO FORTH.

I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE AS FAR AS UPGRADING AND, AND, UH, HIGHLIGHTING AND, UM, JUST UPGRADING IS THE WORD OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL CORNER THAT IS REALLY, REALLY NICE.

IT'S, YEAH, IT CANNOT SHINE A BRIGHT ENOUGH LIGHT ON HER VETERANS, NOT WHEN THEY'RE ALIVE OR AFTER THEY PASSED.

I REALLY, REALLY NOTICED THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S COMPLETELY DONE, BUT IT SURE HAS TAKEN SHAPE AND I REALLY, REALLY DO LIKE IT.

UM, RON YOU MENTIONED, UH, MERCY MEDICAL.

THE WAY I MET DALE CROSBY, THE WAY I MET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY, COACHING KIDS AT FELTON LITTLE PARK WHEN HIS SON CAMERON, WHO'S NOW IN EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTORATE AT UAB, WAS SEVEN YEARS OLD.

SO I WAS LOOKING AROUND, I SAID, I NEED SOMEBODY TO HELP ME COACH, HOW ABOUT YOU? HE WASDALE.

SO HE, FOR TWO YEARS, HE WOULD, HE WOULD COACH ME AND, UH, I, WE WOULD COACH TOGETHER AND JUST HADN'T HAD A GREAT TIME AND CREATED A GREAT FRIENDSHIP.

HE, HE'S ONE OF, HE IS ONE OF MY DEAREST FRIENDS.

I SENT YOU SOME PHOTOS OF, OF THE SKATES.

I'M NOT GONNA HAVE TIME TO REALLY EXPLAIN ALL THAT, BUT I SPEED SKATED FOR 15 YEARS UP IN ILLINOIS.

THOSE SKATES BELONGED TO A FELLOW NAMED TERRY LATRELL.

TERRY LATRELL WAS A NEIGHBOR OF MINE AND HE, HE, UH, MORE, HE, HE IS BETTER KNOWN AS THE FIRST LEAD SINGER OF RO SPEED WAGON.

THAT WAS A GROUP THAT WAS FOUNDED IN MY HOMETOWN.

AND UH, AND ALSO I GOT TO, UH, SKATE WITH, UH, MARY AND SUSIE BLAIR AND, AND ROB BLAIR, THE OLDER KID, THE SIBLINGS OF, OF BONNIE BLAIR.

BONNIE BLAIR WAS THE YOUNGEST OF SIX CHILDREN AND BONNIE WAS TWO YEARS OLD.

AND WHEN SHE'D COME OUT THERE AND SKATE WITH US.

SO THAT'S THE STORY OF THOSE, OF THOSE SKATES AND, AND UH, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I'VE

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I BRING THAT ON.

THANK MR. COSGROVE.

UHHUH.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU.

WILL THE COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD? YES, MR. MAYOR, PLEASE.

WHO WOULD BE NEXT? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE CITIZENS.

OPEN FORM.

AND

[10.a.5. VapenJays. Commercial and entertainment use (specialty retailer of consumable hemp products). Property located at 1452 Opelika Road, Suite C. (Part 2 of 2)]

UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH ROBERT'S RULES, I WOULD, I, UH, MOVE THAT WE RECONSIDER OUR ACTION RELATIVE TO ITEM 10 A FIVE, SPECIFICALLY THE DELAY PERIOD THAT WE ESTABLISHED WITH THE AMENDMENT.

UH, TO DO THIS, TO RECONSIDER THIS DOES REQUIRE THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL, THE, UH, WILLING TO RECONSIDER IT JUST AS LONG AS YOU'RE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE, WHICH HE WAS.

YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY UNANIMOUS.

WE'RE ON PREVAILING SIDE.

HE WOULD NEED A SECOND AND YOU GUYS CAN THEN DISCUSS FURTHER.

HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

SEE FURTHER DISCUSSION YOU WANT.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE TWO MONTHS IS GONNA RUIN OUR BUSINESS, SO I'M WONDERING PERHAPS IF WE COULD LESSEN THAT DELAY.

LET THE STAFF CONCENTRATE ON THIS FOR MAYBE ONE MONTH.

UH, WE'RE STILL NEED ADDITIONAL TIME FOR ASSAULT TO CONSIDER THIS, I THINK, BUT OUR TWO, UH, A TWO MONTH DELAY IS, IS GONNA IRREPARABLY HARM THE BUSINESS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO CON COURSE TO RECONSIDER THE AMENDMENT THAT WE, UH, ADDED TO IT TO LESSEN THE, UH, THE DELAY.

MS. PARSON, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO, DID YOU SECOND? NO, I, I SECONDED THE MOTION.

AND THAT'S JUST FOR RECONSIDERATION.

SO WHAT YOU OUGHT TO DO IS VOTE THAT YOU'RE GONNA RECONSIDER IT.

AND THEN HE'S GIVING YOU HIS REASONS WHY.

TOTALLY APPROPRIATE.

THEN YOU VOTE ON THIS.

IF THERE'S NOT FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RECONSIDERATION, THEN YOU GO BACK TO THAT AND ADJUST ACCORDINGLY IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO.

WE'RE VOTING TO RECONSIDER NOW THE VOTE IS TO RECONSIDER.

THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT.

ALL IN FAVOR OF RECONSIDERING, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.

THAT MOTION CARRIES YOU JUST OPENING BACK THAT, THAT MOTION TO POSTPONE IS WHAT WAS REQUESTED TO RECONSIDER THAT AND TO SEE IF YOU CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES.

I'D LIKE TO RECONSIDER THE, THE MOTION THAT WE MADE TO ADD TWO MONTHS OF FURTHER STUDY TO, UH, TO ONE MONTH OF FURTHER STUDY.

THERE'LL BE A DATE.

CERTAINLY.

YOU AMEND, YOU'RE AMENDING THAT TO MARCH 17TH.

UM, AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COUNSELOR I WILL NOT BE HERE ON THE 17TH.

SO THE ONLY OTHER CONSIDERATION FOR YOU AND SHE ALLUDE TO, 'CAUSE I WANT YOU TO BE CLEAR, THAT ORIGINAL PLAN WAS, YOU WOULD SEE, YOU SAW THIS IN A STAFF MEMO.

YOU WOULD SEE THE LICENSE REQUEST FOLLOWING A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL YOU CAN CONSIDER, UM, AND I'M WILLING TO PUT IT ON THAT EVENING, BUT I WOULDN'T PUT IT ON CONSENT AND CANNOT BEFORE.

YOU'VE CONSIDERED THE CONDITIONAL USE.

SO IF YOU ALSO WANNA COMPRESS THAT TIME, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO NOTE AT LEAST YOU HAVE THEM ONE FOLLOWING THE OTHER ON THAT AGENDA.

YOU STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO POSTPONE ANY OF THE ABOVE, HOWEVER, IT'S BACK TO THE TIMEFRAME, IF THAT IS YOUR CONCERN.

THAT THE, THE END RESULT OF MY, UH, UM, INTENT IS TO RECONSIDER EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE AND GIVE THE BUSINESS OWNER AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONDUCT HER BUSINESS.

AND SHE ALSO, FOR THE RECORD, HAS THE ABILITY TO CONTACT ANY OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY OR CONTACT INFORMATION'S ON OUR WEBSITE AND CAN HAVE THOSE MEETINGS NOT IN A GROUP, BUT INDIVIDUALLY.

YEP.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MEGAN, ARE ARE YOU SAYING THAT, UM, WHEN WE TAKE IT BACK AND DO IT IN A MONTH, ARE WE STILL GONNA HAVE THE WORK SESSION OR NOT? WE WILL CERTAINLY TRY TO HAVE A WORK SESSION CHALLENGE, BE A PART OF BREAK THE WEEK BEFORE THAT.

UH, WELL, AND NOT ALL OF US ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON YOUR SCHEDULES.

WE'LL, WE CAN, WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH STAFF A AVAILABLE TO DEAL WITH ASPECTS OF IT, BUT, UM, DEPENDS ON A FEW THINGS AND WE'LL CHECK YOUR SCHEDULES.

BECAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST BE IN ON, UM, KNOWING SOME OF THE, UM, RESTRICTIONS OR WHATEVER.

EVEN IF I DON'T GET A CHANCE TO BE HERE ON THE 17 TO VOTE ON IT, I, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED.

SO WHAT YOU SECOND KELLY'S MOTION TO CONSIDER ON MARCH 17TH? CONNIE? I'M JUST MAKING, I THINK WE ALREADY, DO WE HAVE A SECOND ONE? DID YOU HAVE A SECOND ON? WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND.

NOT A SECOND.

I HAVE A SECOND.

DO WE, OKAY.

NO, WE JUST NEED A SECOND.

SORRY CON NO, YOU'RE PERFECT.

YOU JUST NEED A SECOND ON THAT.

YOUR MOTION IS TO AMEND THE, THE, THE PREVIOUS POSTPONEMENT TO REFLECT MARCH 17TH INSTEAD OF APRIL 21ST.

WE'LL CONTINUE DISCUSSION.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? OKAY.

I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.

COUNCILMAN GRISWOLD? I THINK THAT'S IT.

I THINK THAT'S A, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION AND UH, WE HOPE THAT WE CAN COME TO SOMETHING ON THE, ON THE 17TH FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR ME, DO YOU WANT THE LICENSE ON THE SAME AGENDA? WE WOULD MOVE IT TO REGULAR RESOLUTIONS IS WHAT WE WOULD DO.

TO FOLLOW THE CONDITIONAL USE, BUT TO NOT BE PRIOR TO,

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ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE MOTION CARRIES.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD? I I, I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION ON THE YOUNG LADY SITUATION THAT CAME UP ABOUT LONGLEAF AND I KNOW SHE'S CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, I GET, UH, I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S CON CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, WELL, I GUESS STRIPING IT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, SEEING SOME TYPE OF SIGNAGE AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

SO WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT LIGHTING IN THAT AREA? UM, SO WHERE IT HAPPENED WAS, I MEAN, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE JOG, THEY JOG AT NIGHT TOO.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT, WHAT IS IT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I I I'M SYMPATHIZING WITH YOU ESPECIALLY YOU DONE HAD AN ACCIDENT THERE MM-HMM .

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA CONSIDER PUTTING UP SIGNAGE AND MM-HMM .

AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT WOULD BE, IS THE LIGHT IN BAD IN THE AREA ALSO AT NIGHT? IT WAS BROAD DAYLIGHT, SO IT'S JUST, I DON'T THINK, FIRST OF ALL, YOU SHOULDN'T BE RUNNING AT NIGHT.

I JUST THINK THAT'S NOT SAFE.

BUT I SERIOUS, I THINK WHAT I, IF THERE WAS A LINE, A WHITE THICK LINE RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE IT IS DOWNTOWN BECAUSE ALL THAT, THOSE LITTLE BUTTONS ARE, WHEN YOU CLICK DOWNTOWN AS IF YOU ARE TO GET HIT, YOU COULD EASILY BE LIKE, OH, WELL I CLICKED THE BUTTON EASY, SUE.

I MEAN, THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO BE THAT WAY, BUT LIKE, AND IF, I THINK IF THERE WAS LINES THAT THAT BOY, HE WAS ALSO A COLLEGE STUDENT, LIKE WAS COMPLETELY SOBER, GO TO EAT MEXICAN WITH HIS FAMILY, IF HE, HE WOULD'VE JUST IN HIS BRAIN, OH, LET ME PARK BEHIND, LET ME, LET ME STOP BEHIND IT.

'CAUSE HE WAS PARKED IN FRONT OF THE, SO HERE IT IS.

AND THEN THE, THE SIDEWALKS RIGHT HERE.

SO HE NOT ONLY, HE CLIPPED THE PERSON I WAS WITH AND THEN RAN ME OVER AND THEN HIT ANOTHER GUY THAT WAS JUST WALKING ON THE CROSSWALK.

LIKE IT, HE JUST DIDN'T LOOK LEFT AND RIGHT.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, HE'S LOOKING AT THE FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC OF, UM, SOUTH COLLEGE.

HE'S NOT LOOKING FOR THE GIRL THAT'S WEARING AN ALL PINK OUTFIT.

SO THAT, I DON'T THINK THE LIGHTS WOULD MAYBE, BUT TO START SOMEWHERE THE LEAST, JUST PAINT SOMETHING ON THE GROUND, LIKE A COUPLE LINES, SOMETHING.

AND IT'S LIKE THAT RIGHT THERE BY STARBUCKS AS WELL.

UM, IT'S JUST, 'CAUSE TECHNICALLY I HAD THE RIDE OF WAY AND THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE CAR EITHER.

LIKE, THAT GUY COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN ME.

I THANK GOD EVERY DAY THAT IT WASN'T ME.

I WAS NOT HIM BECAUSE I'VE MADE SO MANY MISTAKES AS A YOUNG ADULT, HE JUST DIDN'T LOOKED RIGHT AND THEN HE RUINED MY LIFE.

HE COULD HAVE KILLED ME.

YOU KNOW? SO, UM, I THINK MORE SO LINES THAN LIGHTS, BUT YEAH.

WELL, MAYBE I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHERE, THIS IS NOT AN INTERSECTION, IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX EXIT, SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN.

COUNCIL MEMBERS LATER, SHE, SHE REFERRED TO IT AS THE BEACON AND THINGS CHANGED.

NAMES.

IT'S DEVAL DRIVE, WHICH ISN'T, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC STREET ON THAT SIDE, BUT THAT IS THE, IT'S A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY COMING IN INTO COLLEGE STREET THERE WHERE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS NOT WHERE SHE LIVES, BUT WHAT SHE WAS JOGGING BY, WHICH IS WHAT SHE WAS EXPLAINING YES.

AT THE TIME.

AND THEN SHE'S ALSO REFERRING TO STARBUCKS ON SOUTH COLLEGE STREET.

SHE'S SAYING THERE'S DRIVEWAYS THERE.

I'M, I'M JUST, MAYBE I, I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHERE LONG LEAF AT.

'CAUSE I, I WOULD THINK ABOUT NO, YOU LIVE ON LONGLEAF.

I LIVE ON LONGLEAF, SO THAT YEAH, SHE'S EXPLAINING THAT.

THAT'S WHAT FUZZIES IS.

THAT LONG.

THAT THAT AND THE, THAT ROAD IS SO, BUT SHE WAS JOGGING IN THIS VICINITY ON SOUTH COLLEGE.