[ROLL CALL]
[00:00:04]
AT THIS TIME I LIKE TO CALL OUR MARCH 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.
>> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE START I LIKE TO GIVE A OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS.
THE COMMISSION IS PRESENTED WITH ITEMS BY STAFF.
PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN AS APPROPRIATE.
THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ABOUT THE AGENDA ITEM.
WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE HEARD AND ASK YOU KEEP COMMENTS TO 5 MINUTES AND RELEVANT TO THE CASE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT A Q & A.
THE QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED ONCE THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
DO NOT FORGET TO SIGN IN AFTER YOU SPEAK.
AFTER EVERYONE HAS SPOKEN AND HEARING IS CLOSED, STAFF OR REPRESENTATIVES OF THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING RESPOND TO COMMENTS. WILL VOTE BASED ON STATE AND LOCAL LAWS AND THE CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2030.
[CITIZENS’ COMMUNICATION ]
AT THIS TIME, I LIKE TO OPEN CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.IF YOU LIKE TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT AND SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING NOT ON THE TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE COME NOW.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THOMAS SMITH.
RESIDENT OF 3799. I COME TODAY BECAUSE I STOOD IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT A PROJECT GOING ON.
WAS EXPLAINED THE PROCESS AND HOW IT WORKED.
AS OF THIS WEEK, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.
I HAD TO RIDE [INAUDIBLE] SECONDARY ROAD AND THERE IS A SIGN PLACED FOR THIS MEETING FOR PROJECT IN THAT AREA.
I ARE THOUGHT THAT IS ODD, SO WHERE IS MY LETTER? I WAITED ON A LETTER AND LETTER NEVER SHOWED UP.
I FINALLY COME UP TO TALK TO PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THEY LOOK UP STUFF AND MY NAME ISN'T ON ANY LIST, ANY MAILING LIST, ANY SIGN NO WHERE NEAR MY HOUSE AND MY QUESTION IS IN THE PROCESS WHERE WAS THE LET-DOWN? WHY WOULD WE HAVE A SIGN PLACED ON A SECONDARY ROAD AT THE END OF A PROPERTY PAST 90 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY IT INSTEAD OF ALL PUBLIC ROADS? I WOULD THINK IF WE NOTIFY THE CITIZENS THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS. EVERY PUBLIC ROAD GETS A SIGN ON IT. IT IS JUST A SIGN.
SECONDARY, AS A LAND OWNER THAT OWNS 5 TRACTS OF PROPERTY THAT BORDERS THIS PROJECT, HOW I WAS NOT INCLUDED IN IT? AFTER BEING CONFIRMED I WOULD BE SURELY NOTIFIED OF ANY MEETING AND ALL MEETINGS THAT HAD TO DO WITH THIS.
BUT I WAS NOT. SO, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT HAPPENED AND HOW IT HAPPENED, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT AS A COMMISSION YOU FIND OUT HOW THAT HAPPENED, BECAUSE AFTER TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE DID NOT GET LETTERS, SO HOW ARE WE FALLING DOWN ON THE PROCESS? SECONDARY, THERE IS THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED BECAUSE THEY SENT ME BACK LOOKING THROUGHOUT THE MINUTES ABOUT PROJECTS APPROVED IN AUBURN. THERE IS THINGS THAT CAUSE ME CONCERN BECAUSE I HAD EXPERIENCE WITH CERTAIN THINGS IN BIRMINGHAM AND PELUM, ALLOWS OF PRIVATE DRIVES AND ACCESS AND ALLEYWAYS.
AFTER TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE PRESERVE THAT HAVE THE PROJECTS DRIVES AND ACCESSES, ONE OUT OF MAYBE SIX AND TALKED TO EVEN KNEW THAT THAT WAS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
THEY ALL ASSUMED IT WAS CITY RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE PRIVATE DRIVES. THEY ARE NOT.
HOW WOULD YOU EDUCATE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUYING PROPERTY ON THE PRIVATE DRIVES AND ALLEYS ABOUT THIS SITUATION? AS A PUBLIC ENTITY YOU SOMEHOW WE CAN COME UP WITH A WAY TO EDUCATE THEM.
GOES BACK TO THE NEW SEWER SYSTEM ALLOWED, WHICH IS A PUMPING SYSTEM FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL HOUSE.
WITH THOSE SYSTEMS, THE ACTUAL TRUE COST IS BETWEEN 8 AND $10 THOUSAND YOU WILL ADD TO EVERY RESIDENTS TO HAVE THAT SYSTEM INSTALLED. SECONDARY, THEY FAIL EVERY 5 TO 7 YEARS, THAT'S INDUSTRY STANDARD.
AT A COST OF 3 TO $5 THOUSAND TO REPAIR.
THE CITY REQUIRING SINGLE PUMP SYSTEM, MOST MUNICIPALITIES REQUIRE
[00:05:02]
DOUBLE BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT HAPPENS WHEN THE SYSTEMS FAIL AND LACK OF USE AND COST TO REPAIR IS ONLY GOING UP FROM HERE.THERE IS SEVERAL THINGS THE CITY IS ALLOWING BECAUSE WE ARE STARTING TO DEVELOP PROPERTY THAT IS IN MARGINAL TERRITORY WITHOUT GRAVITY FLOW SYSTEMS AND THE COST TO TRANSPORT OF WASTEWATER AND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEY GET MORE EXPENSIVE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I JUST ASK THAT, WHEN WE OR YOU AS A CITY AND CITY STAFF ENGINEERING, WATER, WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL COST, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME WAY TO EDUCATE THE CITIZENS OF WHAT THEY ARE FIXING TO PURCHASE, BECAUSE AS A REAL ESTATE BROKER, SOMEBODY HAS TO EDUCATE THESE BUYERS BECAUSE I GET A PHONE CALL THAT GOES, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT WAS MY RESPONSIBILITY.
SO, WHEN WE START DOING THESE THINGS AND IT WILL HAPPEN, WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY AS A CITY OF AUBURN WITH MULTICULTURAL ACTIVITIES, GENERATIONAL STUFF, THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE PURCHASING BECAUSE OF THE LANGUAGE BARRIER OR SYSTEM DESIGN. I AM JUST ASKING THAT WE WORK ON THE SITUATION AS THIS COMMISSION AND ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO THE SAME THING.
TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO MAKE SURE THE FAILURES THAT HAPPENED IN THE PROCESS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN, AND THAT WHAT WE ARE STARTING TO DESIGN AND ENGINEERS ALLOW TO GOING FORWARD ARE EXPLAINED ABOUT THE COST.
NOT JUST THE COST TO MAINTAIN, BUT THE COST IT WILL ADD TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW MUCH IT WILL COST ON ADDING TO POWER, HOW MUCH IT COST TO ADDING TO MAINTENANCE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BUY IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
I JUST THINK WE ARE ALLOWING THINGS TO GO IN THAT DOES NOT BENEFIT THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
IT MAY BE BENEFITING THE DEVELOPERS BUT NOT DOING ANYTHING GOOD FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUYING THE PROPERTIES AFTER A DEVELOPER IS FINISHED, CLOSES OUT THE LLC AND WALKS AWAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK DURING CITIZEN COMMUNICATION?
[1. Master Signage Plan – The District at Richand Road ]
SEEING NO ONE, CLOSE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.WE HAVE A MATTER OF OLD BUSINESS.
>> ALRIGHT. SO, THE DISTRICT RICHLAND ROAD.
WE WANTED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT QUESTIONS WE HAD BECAUSE THEY WERE ALLOCATING ALL OF THE SIGNAGE FOR THEIR-JUST THE MONUMENT SIGNS.
THEY ARE ALLOCATED AND TAKING UP BY THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK ONCE WE WORKED THROUGH IT TALKED WITH THEM I THINK THE ONLY OUTSTANDING THING REMAINING FROM THIS IS JUST THE TWO SIGNS ON THE ENTRYWAY.
IF YOU CAN GO TO THE SIGNAGE PLAN.
SO, THIS IS FOR ATLAS DISTRICT RICHAND ROAD.
THIS WAS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WITH A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT TO IT.
ALL THE SIGNS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING WILL TAKE UP TWO THINGS WITH MONUMENT SIGNS PRETTY MUCH.
IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS THE MONUMENT SIGN THEY PROPOSE AT THE ENTRANCESMENT.
. YOU ARE ALLOWED TWO ENTRANCES AT A CORNERMENT THEY ARE NOT A CORNER BECAUSE THEY SUBDIVIDE AND REMOVED IT.
THEY REMOVED THE CORNER ASPECT OF OUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
THEY CANNOT TAKE ACCESS FROM SHUG.
ACCESS IS OFF RICHAND ROAD. THEY ARE LIMITED TO THE FRONT ENTRANCE OR THE BACK PRETTY MUCH.
IT IS THE EXPLANATION FOR WHERE THEY ARE.
ALL THE SIGNAGE THEY ARE TAKING UP WILL BE ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AND THEY CLEARED WITH ALL COMMERCIAL INTERESTS AND ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING IN THERE.
THEY WILL BE BUILDING SIGNS. THERE ARE OTHER RESIDENTS AND OTHER MIX USE DEVELOPMENTS IN TOWN WHERE ALL OF THE MONUMENT SIGNAGE IS ALLOCATED TO THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION AND BUILDING SIGNS ALLOCATED TO THE COMMERCIAL PORTION. THEY EXPRESSED THIS IS HOW THEY WANT IT AND STAFF PRETTY MUCH SUPPORTIVE THAT.
THE ONLY THING IS JUST THAT THEY DON'T-THIS IS A DEVIATION.
IT WOULD BE A DEVIATION FOR THEM TO HAVE TWO SIGNS BOTH ON THIS SINCE THEY ARE NOT A CORNER PROPERTY SINCE THEY TOOK THIS OFF THE CORNER WITH SUBDIVIDING OUT.
IF YOU CAN GO BACK. AS YOU SEE, WHERE IS SAYS RETAIL CENTER, THAT'S-THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE LOTS NOW AND THIS IS JUST ALL ALONG RICHAND ROAD.
[00:10:06]
THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY MAJOR DEVIATION JUST FROM REALLY OUR SIGN ORDINANCE PRETTY MUCH.I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE A DECISION.
ALSO WE TALKED TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT.
THE REASON THAT WAS POSTPONED WE HAVE ANSWER TO THAT AND GOT THAT ADDRESSED AND THEN THEY ARE FINE PUTTING THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING SIGNS ON THE BUILDING.
>> THANK YOU. THIS WILL NOT REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING, SO I MOVE TO A QUESTION.
THIS BUILDING SIGN WILL NOT STOP THE COMMERCIAL TENANTS HAVING A FRONT AND BACK SIDE OR IT WILL?
>> NO, SO THESE SIGNS, THE COMMERCIAL TENANTS ALL HAVE SIGNS ON THEIR BUILDING AND SO THEY HAVEN'T TOUCHED ANY OF THE ALLOCATED SIGNAGE THAT THEY CAN GET FROM THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.
EVERYTHING IS KIND OF-THEY USED ALL THE MONUMENT STUFF THOUGH.
>> OKAY. BUT IT IS ALSO NOT NORMAL TO USE BOTH MONUMENT SIGNS?
UNLESS IT IS A CORNER PROPERTY PRETTY MUCH.
>> COMMISSIONERS? >> WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF HAVING TWO MONUMENT SIGNS? I GET IT ISN'T A CORNER PROPERTY, BUT SPECIFICALLY--
>> HONESTY, IT IS JUST MORE VISIBILITY FOR THEM.
PEOPLE MIGHT TRY TO ASK FOR THEM IN THE FUTURE.
IT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY WILL PUSH BACK ON, BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WAS A NUANCE AND SOMETHING THEY ARE AT. THEY WOULD GET UNDER THE MASTER SIGNAGE PLAN.
>> COMMISSIONERS. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
>> ONE MORE QUESTION. SO, AS WE DISCUSSED IN PACKET MEETING, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO NEED AN AMENDMENT?
>> NO. THEY SHOULD NOT NEED A AMENDMENT. ALL THEIR COMMERCIAL ENTITIES WILL UTILIZE THE BUILDING SIGNS.
THERE ARE OTHER MIX USED DEVELOPMENTS IN TOWN THAT HAVE DONE THIS
>> MOVE TO PROVE CASE MS2026-00 THRIE.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?
[CONSENT AGENDA ]
>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT IS MADE UP OF PACKET MEETING MINUTES AND REGULAR MEETING MINUTE FROM FEBRUARY, INCLUDES A FINAL PLAT LONGLEAF CROSSING PHASE 8, IS THERE ANY REASON ANY OF THESE NEED TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?
SEEING NONE. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THE MINUTES.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.
>> BEAR WITH ME ON THIS ONE. THAT IS THE MIDDLE.
[6. Preliminary Plat – Farmville Oaks – PUBLIC HEARING ]
ALRIGHT. SO, FARMVILLE OAKS PRELIMINARY PLAT. ACTUALLY REQUEST PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FOR 51 LOT SUBDIVISION AND 50 SINGLE FAMILY AND OPEN SPACE LOT. WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE MEETING ON MONDAY, THERE WERE SEVERAL ISSUES JUST WITH THIS ONE WHERE THERE IS CONCERN.I'LL PROVIDE A OVERVIEW AND WE'LL GET TO THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE WITH THIS ONE. SO, THIS HAS HISTORY.
THIS PROPERTY WAS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS FOR A WHILE.
UP TO VERY RECENTLY WHERE IT IS BETWEEN WEST FARMVILLE AND JAMES AND FUTURE LAND USE PLAN WAS RURAL AND UPZONED.
ANNEXED AND UPZONED TO LLRD TO ALLOW 1 ACRE LOT MINIMUMS. THERE IS A MAJOR STREET THAT RUNS THROUGH THIS PROPERTY THAT CONNECT FARMVILLE AND MRS. JAMES ROAD.
[00:15:03]
WORKING ON THIS FOR A MINUTE INTERNALLY.TRYING TO GET CONNECTIVITY NOT JUST FROM A ROADWAY BUT UTILITY STANDPOINT. WE CAN GO TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL ITERATIONS.
THERE ARE PHASES THE ROAD WASN'T CONNECTED.
THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES THIS TO BE CONNECTED.
SO, JUST BACK TO THE PLAN IMPLICATION AND I'LL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM ENGINEERING.
THE NUMBER ONE COMMENT, THE PRIMARY ROAD ROTE A IS RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR WITH REQUIRED RIGHT OF WAY WITH 60 FEET.
THE RIGHT OF WAY THEY ARE SHOWING IS 50 FEET.
A LOT OF THE LOT MINIMUMS ON FOR A LOT OF THE LOTS IS JUST OVER LIKE 1 ACRE. SO, YOU START CARVING THESE UP FROM A AREA STANDPOINT IT WILL IMPACT THE DIMENSIONS AND NEED TO RECONFIGURE THIS.
ALSO IN ADDITION, THEY HAVE ABOUT 27 COMMENTS AND WE REALLY TRY TO STICK TO 20 BEING THE LIMIT BEFORE WE PUSH-BACK AND SAY IT NEEDS TO BE POSTPONED AND REWORKED BUT THE CRITICAL COMMENT IS ENGINEERING COMMENT WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY ISN'T ENOUGH. IN THE PLAN IT IS NOT A NEGOTIATION, IT A REQUIREMENT.
SO, THEY DO NEED TO REWORK THE PLAT AND HAVE THE ROAD SHOW THE 60 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY NOT 50.
THAT IS THE REASON STAFF IS PUSHING BACK AND I GUESS THIS WOULD BE GROUNDS FOR DENIAL, BUT LIKE WE ALL KNOW, DENYING PRELIMINARY PLATS COMES WITH A YEAR LONG POSTPONEMENT WHERE THEY CAN'T COME BACK, SO POSTPONING ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH TO THE NEXT MEETING AND REWORK THE PLAT IN THE MEAN TIME ADDRESSING ALL THE 27 COMMENTS AND MOVING FORWARD. ALSO, RECONFIGURE THE LOTS TO MEET THE LOT MINIMUM ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
JUST SPEAKING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE GOT WITH THE APO WHICH ARE DRAFTED BY THE APPLICANT AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS SOMETIMES STAFF WE WILL PUSH BACK AND SAY THE LIST WAS INADEQUATE, YOU NEED TO ADD MORE.
THE APO IS DRAFTED BY THE APPLICANT NOT STAFF.
SOMETIMES WE DO MAIL THINGS OUT, POST OFFICE DOESN'T GET TO PEOPLE.
THAT ISN'T THE CASE HERE. THERE IS INADEQUATE LIST WITH THE PROPERTY SO THAT IS SOMETHING THE APPLICANT WILL BE NOTIFIED OF GOING FORWARD FOR THIS AND WHEN IT GOES OUT AGAIN FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT IN PUBLIC HEARING THE LIST WILL BE CORRECT AND PEOPLE WILL BE NOTIFIED ACCORDINGLY. SO, ANY QUESTION WITH THIS? I DONT THINK IT IS WORTH HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT BECAUSE I THINK THE LOT COUNT MIGHT BE MATERIALLY DIFFERENT AND I THINK THE LAYOUT, SOME THINGS WILL CHANGE.
I WANT TO DRAW YOU ATTENTION TO THE COMMENT FROM ENGINEERING AND STAFF FEELS IT NEEDS TO BE REWORKED AND
>> APRIL 9. THE APPLICANT IS AWARE?
>> YEP. SENT AN E-MAIL EARLER I THIS
WEEK. >> WE WILL NOT HAVE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM AND-
>> MOVE TO POSTPONE CASE PP-2025-044 TO DATE CERTAIN, APRIL 9, 2026.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.
[7. Preliminary Plat – Swann’s Bridge, Phase 1-A – PUBLIC HEARING ]
THIS NEXT CASE IS A REQUEST FROM 4 SITE GROUP LLC, REQUESTING PLAT APPROVAL OF 10 LOT PERFORMANCE SUBDIVISION.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SWANN'S FARM PDD.
SITUATED ON [INAUDIBLE] AND TUNDRA LANE.
THE ZONING IS DDH OR DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT HOUSING WITH PDD OVERLAY. SHOWN HERE ON THE MAP IS THE 10 LOTS EFFECTED BY THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT.
THERE IS ALSO A FINAL PLAT THAT WILL ACCOMPANY THIS AFTER AS WELL.
SO, THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT AND FINAL IS REVISION AND REDIVISION OF IT 10 LAUPTS. LOTS.
THE LOTS EXISTED ALREADY JUST REVISED OR REDIVIDED.
ON THIS SPECIFIC PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAT, THERE IS A CELL TOWER THAT WILL BE REMOVED WITH THE RECORDING OF THIS PLAT. THERE WAS A INTERPRETATION BACK IN JANUARY ON THIS BEING ALLOWED TO BE
[00:20:01]
REMOVED BECAUSE USUALLY WE DON'T ALLOW CELL TOWERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS OR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, SO THERE IS DISCUSSION ON THAT. OTHER THEN THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PRELIMINARYPLAT. >> WHERE IS IT CELL TOWER IN RELATION TO THE LOTS YOU HAVE HERE?
>> IT IS THIS LOT PILOTED RIGHT HERE.
THERE IS A CIRCLE SHOWING THE RADIUS.
>> BUT THE CELL TOWER IS WHAT TO THE RIGHT THAT OUTER BOUNDARY TOWARDS THE RIGHT?
>> YES, THE ACTUAL CELL TOWER HERE.
>> OKAY. >> JUST FOR CLARITY PURPOSES THE CELL TOWER HASN'T BEEN MOVED OR DECONSTRUCTED BUT THE ZONING ORDINANCE HAS CELL TOWER CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS SO PREVENT CELL TOWERS CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE PROXIMITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS. THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES NOT PREVENT HOUSES BEING CONSTRUCTED IN PROXIMITY OF EXISTING CELL TOWERS AND THAT IS BACK IN LINE WITH THE GENERAL EETH OF OTHE STATE BEING BUYER BE AWARE STATE.
I THINK IN THE PAST THE FALL ZONE WAS A PLOT FROM THE INTERPRETATION PLANNING DIRECTOR.
THROUGH DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT THEY SUBMITTED INTERPRETATION REQUEST AND I FEEL THAT THE REGS REGULATE CELL TOWERS AND DO NOT REGULATE HOUSES.
>> THE CELL TOWER IS DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL-
>> I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE CONSTRUCTION OR STANDARDS OF THE CELL TOWER.
MY POSITION IS THE REGS REGULATE CELL TOWERS THEY DON'T REGULATE CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSES NEAR THE CELL TOWERS.
>> THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT IS CHANGING SETBACKS MAINLY FOR THIS PLAT?
>> YES. THERE WAS THE FALL LINE AND THE SETBACK ASSOCIATED THE HOUSE COULDN'T BE BUILT WITHIN THE RADIUS. I THINK ESSENTIALLY JUST YOU'RE STANDING OEN THE END OF THE STREET.
THESE HOUSES ARE FURTHER BACK THEN THE ONES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT ON THE SAME STREET.
>> I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE THESE TWO LOTS RIGHT HERE ARE ONE LOT, SO THE DEVELOPER WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD ON THE TWO LOTS NOW.
>> SURE. >> ALSO, FIBER EASEMENTS ARE ALSO GOING IN.
>> THERE WILL BE IN THE STRAIGHT LINE AND NOT BE ZAGED?
>> IT IS GIVING THE DEVELOPER THE CHANCE TO DEVELOP SOME OF THESE
THIS DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, I LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR SWANN'S BRIDGE PHASE 1 A.
PRELIMINARY PLAT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM.
>> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF COMMISSION.
WARREN JOLLY, WITH THE DEVELOPER.
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS REALLY IS THE HOUSES WE HAVE TO PUSH BACK SO THEY HAVE A SMALL DRIVEWAY, SO THEY COULD FIT ON THERE AND HAVE A FRONT PORCH.
PULLING UP THE STREET YOU JUST HAVE THE PORCH IN THE WAY.
IT LINES UP THE FRONT OF THE HOUSES, THAT WHOLE STREET.
IT IS BUILT OUT THESE HOUSES SO THE GARAGE IS IN THE REAR AND FRONT PORCH IN THE FRONT.
LIKE YOU SAID, READ THE RULE WHEN WE ZONED THE PROPERTY WE SAID LET'S GO BUT AS WE ARE BUILDING THE HOUSES IT MAKES SENSE TO LINE UP THE HOUSES. THEY WILL KNOW THERE IS A CELL TOWER THERE.
THE CELL TOWER HAS AT LEAST TO THE OUTSIDE DATE OF 31, BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM RIGHT NOW.
WE RAN NEW FIBER IN AND CLEANED UP EASEMENTS, SO DEVELOPING THE BACK PHASE NOW.
WE ARE WORKING VERIZON TOWER TO MOVE TO THE BACK SO THINK WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR THEY WILL BE BEHIND THERE.
CAN'T GUARANTEE BUT THERE IS A PERIOD OF LEASE.
THEY DON'T OWN THE LAND OUTSIDE DATE WOULD BE 2031.
ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO ONE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT OR STAFF?
>> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE PP-2026-005.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.
[8. Final Plat – Swann’s Bridge, Phase 1-A ]
>> THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT CASE. SAME LOCATION.
[00:25:02]
IT IS JUST FINAL PLAT PORTION. WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYWITH FINAL PLATS THERE IS NO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
>> MOVE TO APPROVE FP-2026-003. >> SECOND.
>> MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?
THANK YOU. >> THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE
[9. Conditional Use – The Boulevard Phase 9 – PUBLIC HEARING ]
APPROVAL FOR MULTIPLE UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 547 BRYANT CIRCLE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.THIS IS PHASE 9 OF THE BOULEVARD, WHICH ARE ADDITIONS TO PHASE 6 NORTH AND PHASE 6 SOUTH.
THIS PHASE WILL ADD 36 NEW UNITS.
FOUR TO PHASE 6 SOUTH AND 32 TO PHASE 6 NORTH.
THE FOUR UNITS PROPOSED IN PHASE 6 SOUTH WILL BRING THE TOTAL UNIT COUNT TO 23 AND DENSITY TO 9.54, AND THE PROPOSED UNITS FOR PHASE 6 NORTH BRING THE TOTAL COUNT TO 60 AND DENSITY TO 11.3.
THE TOTAL DENSITY FOR THE BOULEVARD RIGHT NOW IS, 10.76 DWELLING UNITS A ACRE.
THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE THE VACATION OF RIGHT OF WAY AND CONSOLIDATION OF PARCELS AND THAT IS A STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS AND BELIEVE THERE ARE ENGINEERING CONCERNS WITH TRAFX. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, BUT A LOT WILL BE BY ENGINEERING.
>> CAN YOU GIVE THE TOTAL BEDS? >> FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PHASE IT IS 90 BEDS.
>> SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF COMMENTS IN GENERAL.
NOT JUST WITH ENGINEERING. ARE THERE ANY--
>> JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE INSIGHT JUST FOR THE DISCUSSION ON MONDAY WHERE WE TALKED AROUND A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND SO WHAT DEFICIENCIES WERE AND AROUND THE TRAFFIC STUDY SO WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT FOR TOMORROW MORNING AND TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. JUST PROVIDE INSIGHT ON IT.
WANT TO CHECK THE SITE DISTANCE, THESE ARE REQUIRED IN OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES REQUIREMENTS AT OLD SAGE ROAD, SUMMER HILL ROAD. EAST FROM THE EXISTING LOCATION.
ALSO MENTIONED THE TRIP GENERATION RATES FOR STUDENT HOUSING ARE USED WITHOUT TRANSIT ARE IDENTIFIED HOWEVER THERE IS A TIGER TRANSIT STOP. THREE STOPS HERE.
AND JUST WHY WAS THE TRAFFIC STUDY CONDUCTED WITHOUT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION TRANSIT? AND THEN LARGE PORTION OF THE DIRECTIONAL DISTRIBUTION IS SENDING TRAFFIC DOWN SUMMER HILL TO EAST GLEN. WHAT IS IMPACT OF LEVEL OF SERVICE ON STOP CONTROLLED INTERSECTIONS? AND ALSO THE REPORT ONLY QUAL QUANTIFIED A PORTION OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OF INCREMENTAL CHANGES. HOWEVER, THIS IS ONGOING FOR YEARS FROM THE INITIAL STAGE AND FULL BUILD-OUT IS NEEDED TO COMPARE TRAFFIC THAT OCCURRED HERE OR WILL OCCUR PROVIDING SNAPSHOT OF EXISTING TRAFFIC TO A FULL BUILD OUT IS WHAT I'M INTERESTED TO PLAN AHEAD AND TRY TO TACKLE LEVEL OF SERVICE ISSUES THE DEVELOPMENT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO. THESE ARE PLACES WHERE STAFF IS PUSHING BACK ON THE CURRENT TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AND ALSO JUST QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR THEM.
ALSO JUST SHEDDING LIGHT ON WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT WITH THEM AND WHERE WE SAW THE DEFICIENCIES.
ENGINEERING CAN PROBABLY MORE. WE MADE THE APPLICANT AWARE WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORE AND THINK IT WILL RESULT IN PROBABLY UPDATING THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND FIGURING WHAT THE CONTRIBUTIONS OR RESOLUTIONS NEED TO
BE. >> I GOT ONE QUESTION BEFORE WE CONTINUE. AT BUILD-OUT, WHAT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF BEDS ING THAT AREA?
>> I THINK THAT HAS BEEN- >> THAT IS THE QUESTION.
>> THAT IS SOMETHING THEY HAVEN'T COMMITTED TO IN THE PAST.
THEY ACQUIRED PROPERTY AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE AND SO, WE HAVE IT NUMBER OF BEDS-THE UNITS AND BEDS THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR AND FROM A UNIT STANDPOINT IT IS 195 AND 201.
IT IS FROM 650 BEDS FLIRTING WITH A THOUSAND.
>> MY REBUTTAL TO YOU WILL BE THAT YES THEY MAY BE THE LARGEST, NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ADDED UNITS AND BEDS TO THAT
[00:30:01]
>> TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS- >> THERE ARE SEVERAL NEW TOWNHOMES ON SUMMER HILL.
WE APPROVED MULTIPLE TRIPLEXES ALONG HARPER AND WHAT WE TALKED MONDAY IS THERE IS THE LARGER QUESTION OF HOW BIG A QUAG MYER AND IF IT IS SIMILAR TO DONAHUE IT REQUIRES A TEAM EFFORT. MAYBE SOMETHING THE CITY LEADS BUT WHERE THERE IS FUPDING EFFORTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE TRAFFIC STANDARDS. THAT IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION TOMORROW MORNING, BUT I THINK JUST WE NEED TO MAKE OUR DECISION WHO'S RESPONSIBILITY IS IT TO SOLVE THE DEAN AND GLEN TO OPELIKA CORRIDOR AND THERE ARE TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND LOOKING AT SAGE ROAD IN OPELIKA, SUMMER HILL, GLEN, ALL
THOSE. >> SO, YOU'RE PRESENTING TO POTENTIALLY POSTPONE THIS? I DON'T WANT TO ASK ANYMORE QUESTIONS AND--PUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM
IN A-- >> I GUESS TO ENGINEERING.
ONE MONTH, TWO MONTHS, WHAT ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH?
I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION OF PROCESS.
USUALLY TRAFFIC STUDY IS A DRT THING, CORRECT?
>> CORRECT. AND SO SOMETIMES I THINK HOW WE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFYING THEM AND MAKING DISTINGUISHING THEM, IF WE KNOW THAT EITHER THE EXISTING RESIDENTS HAVE TRAFFIC CONCERNS OR THE CITY HAS TRAFFIC CONCERNS. WE TELL PEOPLE AT THE MEETING FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE REZONE AND PRELIMINARY PLAT, NORMALLY THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS REQUIRE #D AFTER THE FACT AND YOU NEED IT WITH YOU IN HAND WITH THE SUBMISSION.
THAT'S WHY THIS IS BROKEN OUT. WHEN THEY-ENGINEERING GOT THE TRAFFIC STUDY IT WAS LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF FAILING INTERSECTIONS NEAR THIS AND ALSO WE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT ARE OUTLINED EARLIER.
AND SO, THAT'S WHY INSTEAD OF JUST STAMPING THIS AND LETTING MOVE FORWARD, WE STILL PROBABLY HIT THESE SNAGS IN DRT WHERE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ANSWER ANYTHING, SO THAT'S THE REASON WE DECIDED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL AND WORK ON THIS AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH ANSWERS BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF CONDITIONAL USES. TRAFFIC AND WHAT IT BREAKS DOWN TO ISN'T NECESSARILY-THERE IS MORE CARS.
IT WILL BE-THESE INTERSECTIONS ARE NOW FAILING CONDITION, THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS AND HERE ARE THE
RESOLUTIONS WE NEED TO COME TO. >> I THINK THAT DOING THE STUDY AND NOT DRT AT LEAST TAKES EVERYTHING INTO ACCOUNT AND NOT JUST PUTTING ON THIS ONE PARTICULAR DEVELOPER AS WELL. RIGHT?
LIKE I SAID, I THINK THE GOAL ISN'T TO HANG THE WHOLE CORRIDOR ISSUE ON THIS ONE DEVELOPMENT.
THE GOAL I THINK ON OUR END IS TO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED AND IDENTIFY WHAT THEIR ALLOCATION WOULD BE IN THOSE SOLUTIONS. I DON'T THINK IT IS SOMETHING THIS WHOLE THING IS YOUR FAULT.
I THINK WE ARE ALL AWARE-- -CONFLUENCE ISSUES.
WE'LL GET ANSWERED TO WHAT THEY THINK THE BUILD-OUT IS AND ALSO HOW MANY BEDS ARE THERE NOW AND THEN WHAT THEY THEIR CONTRIBUTION HAS BEEN TO THE SITUATION.
>> JUST IF I ADD, YES, WE EVALUATE TRAFFIC STUDIES OR ANY TYPE OF IMPACTS ON INFRASTRUCTURE WE LOOK AT WHAT THE PRO RATA SHARE IS AND HOW WE WORK OUT THE EQUITABLE COMPENSATION.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.
WE WILL NOT HAVE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT?
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY BEST.
>> OKAY. I CAN MAKE-ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE CASE CU-2026-0007 TO APRIL 9.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.
GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING.
[10. Appeal to Waiver – Driveway Spacing – PUBLIC HEARING ]
THIS IS AN APPEAL TO A DRIVEWAY SPACING WAVER.>> OKAY. >> THIS IS FOR A PROPOSED DRIVEWAY THAT IS ON WOODFIELD DRIVE.
THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY ALSO FRONTS NORTH COLLEGE STREET.
SOUTH COLLEGE STREET. >> SOUTH COLLEGE.
[00:35:02]
>> AND THAT IS WHERE THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY IS ON SOUTH COLLEGE.
WE REVIEWED THE WAVER REQUEST AND WE DID APPROVE IT, BUT WE HAD THE CONDITION IN THERE THEY CLOSE THE SOUTH COLLEGE DRIVEWAY WHEN THIS NEW DRIVEWAY IS INSTALLED.
THE APPLICANT IS APPEALING THAT CONDITION SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS
SO, DO WE KNOW IF EITHER DRIVEWAY IS STILL OPEN OR BOTH ARE STILL
OPEN? >> THERE IS ONLY ONE NOW.
THEY WANT TO PUT A NEW ONE IN ON WOODFIELD.
>> THE SECOND ONE HAS NOT BEEN INSTALLED OR OPENED-
>> CORRECT. >> AND THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO CLOSE THE SOUTH COLLEGE STREET DRIVEWAY IS WHY? IS THERE A IS-
>> WE DON'T HAVE A BASIS FOR APPROVING A CURB CUT SPACING WAVER.
ALL IS NO REAL HARDSHIP PRESENTED THERE, BUT WE RECOGNIZE THE BENEFIT OF TAKING ACCESS OFF SOUTH COLLEGE AND PUTTING IT HERE. THAT BENEFIT OUTWEIGHS THE DETRIMENT OF HAVING A TIGHTER CURB CUT.
>> GOT IT. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
IS THE APPLICANT--IF THIS WAVER IS GRANTED, IS HE STILL BUILDING THIS ONE OUT TO WOODFIELD?
>> YOU CAN ANSWER. >> YOUR QUESTION IS IF THE-IF YOU DON'T OVERTURN IT?
>> YEAH. >> AS IT IS NOW THEY CAN'T BUILD IT WITHOUT MEETING THE CURB CUT SPACING
REQUIREMENTS. >> I FEEL THEY HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER NOW, RIGHT?
>> THEY HAVE THE SOUTH COLLEGE BUT THE ARRANGEMENT IS GET WOODFIELD SHOULD THEY CLOSE SOUTH COLLEGE.
>> RIGHT. THIS REQUIRES PUBLIC HEARING.
OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.
ARE YOU THE APPLICANT? >> YES, MA'AM.
>> YEAH. IF YOU CAN SPEAK AND RUNS OVER TIME YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS FROM THERE.
>> OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. NEED TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK SINCE YOU ARE THE APPLICANT.
>> YOU WANT TO SEE SOMEBODY ELSE?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GOING TO HELP OR NOT.
DONNA [INAUDIBLE] 815 SOUTH COLLEGE THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO THE
APPLICANT. >> FURTHER FROM WOODFIELD OR ON THE CORNER?
>> FURTHER AWAY. WHAT I CAN TELL Y'ALL IS THAT SOUTH COLLEGE STREET HAS GOT VERY HEAVILY TRAFFICKED EVERY YEAR AND THE INSTALLING OF THE RED LIGHT HAS NOT HELPED NOR ALLOWING THE TALON STREET.
IT IS MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC ON THAT.
THE PREVIOUS OWNER THAT PROPERTY WAS REAR-ENDED TURNING INTO HIS DRIVE. MY OWN DAUGHTER WAS REAR-ENDED TURNING INTO OUR DRIVE, SO THE DRIVE THEY WANT TO CREATE GIVES THEM A SAFE ACCESS IN THEIR PROPERTY FROM EITHER WAY.
THEY CAN TURN FROM SOUTH COLLEGE INTO THE PROPERTY AND GO OUT WOODFIELD DEPENDING HOW THE FOOTBALL TRAFFIC IS FLOWING OR WHATEVER AND THE SAME IS TRUE THEY CAN GO TO THE LIGHT, TURN LEFT, COME ON WOODFIELD AND EXIT ON SOUTH COLLEGE STREET AND GO RIGHT, SO IT IS REALLY A SAFETY FACTOR FOR THEM THAT THEY HAVE THIS EXTRA DRIVE.
I WISH I HAD THE ABILITY TO DO IT TO MY PROPERTY.
SO, THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING. IF Y'ALL CAN LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT, HAVE TO PUT A PLUG IN HERE.
FIND A WAY TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT ON SOUTH COLLEGE STREET TO 40 OR 35, IT WOULD BE TREMENDOUS HELP ALLEVIATING WRECKS ON THE STREET. WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE RUN INTO PEOPLE'S YARDS.
KNOCKING OVER GAS LINES. WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE END UP IN THE MUSEUM LAKE BECAUSE THE SPEED ON THE STREET. I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IS TO KEEP BOTH DRIVES SO THEY CAN GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR PROPERTY SAFELY.
[00:40:01]
>> THANK YOU. WILL YOU PLEASE SIGN IN IF YOU HAVEN'T? WILL YOU PLEASE SIGN IN IF YOU HAVEN'T? ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS MATTER? OKAY. YES, SIR, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU. I DID NOT KNOW DONNA WAS COMING TONIGHT. SHE IS OUR NEIGHBOR.
RODRY RUSHING, MY WIFE MICHELLE IS HERE.
WE OWNED THE HOME ABOUT 25 YEARS.
THE SECOND OWNERS. THE HOUSE IS BUILT IN 1940.
UNIQUE OUR ACRE LOT HAS A 20 FOOT WIDE STRIP EASEMENT ON WOODFIELD AND ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR AND THEY GAVE US PERMISSION TO BUILD THAT NEW DRIVEWAY, BUT THEY WANTED US TO CLOSE THE SOUTH COLLEGE. I PROMISE YOU, WE DO NOT WANT TO USE THAT DRIVEWAY, WE WANT TO USE IT AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE, BUT DONT WANT TO CLOSE IT.
I WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE MY ADDRESS TO WOODFIELD.
I BROUGHT-APOLOGIZE FOR THE QUALITY.
I DID THIS AT THE OFFICE. BUT I MADE A PICTURE ONLINE.
>> YEAH, SO TECHNICALTY. I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE LET ME KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO SHARE THIS AND COULD HAVE SHOWED IT TO ME. YOU JUST HAVE TO USE YOUR IMAGINATION. SORRY.
>> THAT'S FINE. I'LL LEAVE IT AND LET YOU LOOK AT IT LATER.
ALL WE ARE ASKING AND IT IS A PURE SAFETY THING IS WE BE ABLE TO KEEP THE DRIVEWAY.
WE HAVE 1940'S SMALL HOUSE. WE USE IT AS A GAME DAY HOUSE.
THERE IS A AWNING CARPORT THAT THIS DRIVE OFF SOUTH COLLEGE GOES STRAIGHT TO THE CARPORT, SO I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE UP THAT DRIVEWAY AND RESOD IT AND ASK TO PUT IN A CURB TO RECURB IT.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO THAT EXPENSE.
I HAVE THE PROPERTY TO TAKE THE TRAFFIC OFF SOUTH COLLEGE, SO-HAD BIGGEST DANGER FOR US IS BACKING OUT.
THERE IS A VIRTUALLY NO WAY TO TURN AROUND UNLESS YOU PULL INTO THE FRONT YARD, WHICH EVERYBODY DOES WHEN IT IS DRY. BUT IF IT IS RAINING OR SOFT LIKE IT IS TODAY, YOU CANT DO THAT.
GET STUCK. ALL WE ARE ASKING-THANK YOU FOR THE PERMISSION TO PUT IT ON WOODFIELD TO TRY TO GET THE TRAFFIC OFF SOUTH COLLEGE.
WE ARE JUST ASKING TO KEEP THE OLD DRIVEWAY THERE.
YOU CAN ONLY TAKE A RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO COME FROM THE SOUTH TO TURN RIGHT INTO OUR HOUSE.
YOU CANT CUT-IT IS 4 LANES THERE.
YOU CAN'T CUT ACROSS THE DOUBLE YELLOW LINE AND SO, BUT I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOUSE OR THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE DID CONTACT EACH NEIGHBOR.
DONNA IS TO THE NORTH THAT. THE PRUITTS ARE ON THE CORNER.
MR. PRUITT IS HOME ON HOSPICE SO HAD TO GET ENTOUCH WITH HIS CHILDREN.
THE FENCE-LINE WHERE I ASK FOR THE NEW DRIVEWAY, MR. BUTLER ACTUALLY USES THAT NOW TO ACCESS HIS BACK YARD.
HE WAS FOR IT. AND THEN THE NEXT HOUSE IS RALPH JORDAN, JR. AND INCLUDED COMMUNICATION FROM HIM WHERE HE WAS ALSO NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE.
>> COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS? >> ARE THERE OTHER PLANS TO PUT OTHER BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES ON THE LOT OR IS THIS STRICTLY FOR THE DRIVEWAY?
>> NO PLANS. NONE WHAT SO EVER.
I DON'T WANT TO GO TO EXPENSE TEARING UP A DRIVEWAY.
THE 20 FOOT STRIP IS OPEN TODAY AND JUMP THE CURB WITH TRUCKS AND DELIVERIES AND TREE TRIMMERS USE THAT AREA.
THERE IS ONLY ABOUT A 13 FOOT WIDE EASEMENT.
THE PRUITTS ASKED ME IF I WAS GOING TO CUT TREES.
THE 20 FOOT EASEMENT COMES ON A WOODED LOT WITH VERY LARGE TREES AND PROMISED I WOULD NOT CUT A TREE.
THE ONLY OTHER REQUEST THE PRUITTS ASK I NOT USE CONCRETE.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE-I GET IT.
I'LL USE CRUSHED ASPHALT AND PEE GRAVEL.
ANYTHING THAT MAKES IT DRIVEABLE WHEN THE GROUND IS WET.
>> SO, BACK TO THE QUESTION, YOU WERE GOING TO USE BOTH DRIVEWAYS? EXISTING DRIVEWAY OPEN.
WHEN WE COME FROM BIRMINGHAM NOW, WE HAVE TO TURN ONTO GLEN AND COME DOWN, HIT WOODFIELD, TAKE A RIGHT, TAKE A RIGHT AND TURN RIGHT INTO THE HOUSE.
IN THE FUTURE WE WILL PROBABLY COME IN THE BACK BUT PEOPLE WHO COME TO
[00:45:01]
BALL GAMES AND HAVE OUR ADDRESS, 827 SOUTH COLLEGE THAT IS HOW THEY COULD TURN IN THERE.COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE. >> OKAY.
>> SEEING NO ONE ELSE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONERS-- >> LISTENING TO STAFF KNOWING WHAT SOUTH COLLEGE HOW SOUTH COLLEGE IS AND REALIZE THE TRAFFIC MOVES FAST AND DOESN'T MATTER-I DON'T THINK IF YOU PUT THE SPEED LIMIT TO 35, OR 25, PEOPLE GOING TO BE SPEEDING DOWN SOUTH COLLEGE.
I THINK THE SAFEST THING IS CLOSE SOUTH COLLEGE DRIVE.
UNLESS HE'S NOT GOING TO PUT IN THE WOODFIELD DRIVE AND KEEP THE EXISTING CURB CUT.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION. THE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS IS JUST CURB CUT TO BE IN PLACE FOR SOUTH COLLEGE, NOT LIKE LITERALLY TAKE IT UP, RIGHT? THAT IS A PERSONAL DECISION. TO REMOVE THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY OFF SOUTH COLLEGE.
>> IT GETS PHYSICALLY CLOSED TO EXTENT.
TYPICALLY YOU WILL BUILD CURB AND GUTTER TO CROSS WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS NOW, WHICH YOU END UP TEARING OUT THE FRONT PART OF THE DRIVEWAY. IT IS USUALLY LIKE THE APRON TO THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE, SO JUST TO BE ABLE TO-THE CURB IS 6 INCHES HIGHER THEN THE STREET.
>> GOT YOU. >> PUT THE CURB IN, TEAR OUT A PIECE OF THE DRIVEWAY, MAYBE 15 FEET OR SO AND THEN BACK-FILL AND PUT SOD AND THE REST OF THE CONCRETE GOING TO THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY.
PART B THAT IS, WOULD HE HAVE TO CHANGE HIS ADDRESS?
>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
>> I DON'T THINK SO. I GUESS KIND OF I WILL HANDLE ADDRESSING BUT DONT THINK WE WOULD.
THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE. JUST THE--
AND I GUESS THE THING THAT REMEMBER-IF WE WERE TO HAVE A SUBDIVISION ON SOUTH COLLEGE STREET NOW, THERE WOULD BE SEVERE ACCESS MANAGEMENT. EACH HOUSE WOULD NOT HAVE ITS OWN DRIVEWAY.
WE WOULD PUSH FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE ACCESS OFF SIDE STREETS LIKE WOODFIELD AND REESE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THIS IS SOUTH COLLEGE DOES OPERATE AKIN TO HIGHWAY 14 HOW THAT IS PART OF THE ZONING DISTRICT.
ALL THOSE HOUSES ONCE REPURPOSED WILL NOT BE GRANTED ACCESS FROM HIGHWAY 14. THEY MUST ACCESS FROM A SIDE STREET. IT IS A SAFETY CONCERN.
>> CURRENTLY HE CAN-WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, KEEP SOUTH COLLEGE STREET OPEN OR WOODFIELD OPEN IS THAT WHAT WE ARE
TRYING TO DECIDE? >> SO, HE HAS SOUTH COLLEGE AND WOULD LIKE TO ADD WOODFIELD.
ENGINEERING POSITION IS HE CAN ADD WOODFIELD IF HE CLOSES SOUTH COLLEGE. HE IS APPEALING THAT BECAUSE HE LIKES TO MAINTAIN BOTH.
HE LIKES TO ADD THE WOODFIELD ONE AND KEEP SOUTH COLLEGE.
>> RATHER THEN ONE OR THE OTHER?
DOESN'T WANT TO ADD WOODFIELD AND LOSE SOUTH COLLEGE.
SOME THINGS HE MENTIONED ABOUT MANEUVERING, PEOPLE HAVE COME ABOUT ADDING DIFFERENT STRUCTURES IN THE YARD.
IT IS COMMON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE HAVE PARKING PADS IN THE FRONT YARD AND IT IS PRETTY COMMON FOR SOME FOLKS TO KIND OF BUILD THAT IN. IT IS SOMETHING HE DOESN'T WANT TO SPEND ON.
BUT, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, STAFF SIDE I THINK IT IS SOMETHING TO REMEMBER ON SOME OF THE HIGH VOLUME ROADS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF REAR-END COLLISIONS.
THERE WOULD BE SEVERE ACCESS MANAGEMENT IF THERE WAS A NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW EACH HOUSE TO HAVE ITS
OWN INDIVIDUAL ACCESS. >> SO SHOULD HE SELL THE PROPERTY AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT?
>> THIS IS ESSENTIALLY--I GUESS FROM-IT ISN'T NON CONFORMING LOT.
THAT ENTIRE STRETCH IS NON CONFORMING FROM ACCESS.
IF WE GET LOT CONSOLSATION YOU HAVE TO SHARE DRIVEWAY OR SOMEONE HAD ACCESS TO CORNER LOT WE MAKE THEM TAKE ACCESS FROM THE SIDE STREET INSTEAD OF EACH HAVING ITS OWN ACCESS OFF SOUTH
COLLEGE. >> I THINK WHAT I STRUGGLE WITH WITH THIS ONE IS DRIVING UP AND DOWN SOUTH COLLEGE. EVEN LOOK AROUND THAT
[00:50:03]
DEVELOPMENT CLOSE TO SHELTON MILL, THERE IS ACCESS TO COLLEGE AND I GET WE WANT TO CUT THAT OFF WHERE WE CAN AND ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC.I GUESS FOR THIS ONE, IF THE APPLICANT DID NOT WANT TO PUT THIS DRIVEWAY IN THE FIRST PLACE IT WOULDN'T BE A
I THINK DAN MENTIONED IT, BUT THIS IS TECHNICALLY DRIVEWAY SPACING WAVER ON WOODFIELD TO ALLOW IT BECAUSE IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE LESSER OF THE EVILS FROM THE DRIVEWAY SPACING STANDPOINT. THAT IS CORRECT.
THEY WERE NOT FORCE THE ISSUE ADDING ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY WE WOULD NOT BE ASKING THIS QUESTION.
>> EVEN THOUGH IT IS BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE TO HAVE A SECOND OUTLET?
>> CORRECT. IF THIS WAS A VACANT LOT THEY HAVE TO MEET THE DRIVEWAY SPACING ON SOUTH COLLEGE AND WOODFIELD AND SO IT IS-YOU NEED ACCESS-YOU NEITHER NEED ACCESS EASEMENT OR SOMETHING TO ACCESS IT OR TAKE FROM THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY INSTEAD OF GRANTED ONE INDIVIDUALLY FOR YOUR HOME.
>> QUESTIONS? MOTIONS? YOU THINK HOW YOU ARE MAKING YOUR MOTION?
>> CLARIFY HOW WE VOTE TO THIS. >> AS YOU ALL KNOW, EVERYTHING IS ALL VOTES ARE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND SO--ALL MOTIONS ARE IN AFFIRMATIVE.
ALL MOTIONS ARE IN AFFIRMATIVE. IF YOU DISAGREE GRANTING THE WAVER THEN VOTE NO.
>> OKAY. MOVE TO APPROVE PCWZ-2026-002.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.
THANK YOU. THAT BRINGS TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE EVENING.
ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS? >> NO, I THINK KIND OF THE ONLY THING IS JUST FROM THE-I WILL BE IN CONTACT ABOUT THE DATES. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO SIT DOWN AND GET THAT FIGURED OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE MOST OF THE DATES. AT THE END OF THE MONTH OR LOOK FOR NEW DATES IN APRIL.
I WILL BE IN CONTACT TOMORROW ABOUT THAT.
>> AYE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.