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[ROLL CALL]

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GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MAY 2026 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.

IF YOU WILL ROLL CALL. DANA KEMP. NANETTE REESE HERE.

VANESSA ECHOLS HERE. JENNIFER. LUVERNE HERE. JOSEPH ASTRUP HERE.

PHIL CHANCELLOR HERE. JENNIFER STEPHENS HERE.

OSCAR MOSLEY HERE. WALKER DAVIS HERE. THANK YOU.

BEFORE WE START, I'D LIKE TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS PROCESS. THE COMMISSION WILL BE PRESENTED WITH AGENDA ITEMS BY THE STAFF.

A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE OPENED AS APPROPRIATE.

AND THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ABOUT THE AGENDA ITEM AT HAND.

WE WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO BE HEARD, BUT WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR TIME TO FIVE MINUTES AND YOUR COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THE CASE AT HAND.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOT A Q AND A. THE QUESTIONS THAT ARISE WILL BE ANSWERED ONCE THE HEARING IS CLOSED.

AND PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO SIGN IN AFTER YOU SPEAK.

ONCE EVERYONE IS SPOKEN AND THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE CLOSED.

ALL QUESTIONS ASKED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE ADDRESSED BETWEEN THE REPRESENTATIVE, APPLICANT AND STAFF. EVERYONE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND RESPONDED TO.

THE COMMISSION WILL THEN VOTE BASED ON STATE AND LOCAL LAWS AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN 2030.

FINALLY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL. EXCEPT IN THE CASES OF SUBDIVISION PLAT DECISIONS, ALL OTHER DECISIONS WILL BE MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AFTER CONSIDERATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION POSITION.

IF AN AGENDA ITEM MOVES FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL, WE WILL LET YOU KNOW THE DATE OF THAT COUNCIL MEETING.

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN CITIZEN'S COMMUNICATION.

THIS IS THE TIME WHEN YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

SEEING NO ONE CLOSE CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA,

[CONSENT AGENDA ]

WHICH WILL INCLUDE PACKET MEETING MINUTES AND REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM THE APRIL PLANNING COMMISSIONS AND ONE FINAL PLAT COMMISSIONERS MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL THOSE IN.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

[2. Annexation – Noble Hall Easement Property ]

AND ON TO NEW BUSINESS. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST KIND OF BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THE THE NEXT SERIES OF ITEMS. SO THEY'RE ALL THE NEXT I THINK IT'S THREE, FOUR.

BUT THERE ARE TWO PUDS AND I JUST KIND OF WANT TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW JUST KIND OF WHAT THOSE WERE.

AND SO THERE ARE TWO PUDS. THEY'RE REALLY JUST KIND OF ONE PROPERTY.

AND SO IT'S A NOBLE HALL PUD, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ABOUT IT.

AND THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND IT.

SO THEY ARE BROKEN INTO TWO. ONE IS A LAND CONSERVATION PUD, REALLY MORE SO FOCUSED ON LAND PRESERVATION, AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE CORE PROPERTY THAT IS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOCUSED PUD.

AND SO THEY'RE BROKEN UP, DEED RESTRICTIONS, LEGAL STUFF.

WE'LL KIND OF GET INTO THOSE DETAILS LATER. I DID HAND YOU ALL JUST KIND OF THE UPDATED CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

AND SO THOSE ARE KIND OF PART OF THE GOVERNING CONDITIONS. AND I'LL MAKE A FURTHER AMENDMENT JUST KIND OF ASSOCIATED WITH KIND OF A MUCH MORE NARROWLY DEFINED LOCATION OF THE GREENWAY EASEMENT ON THE CORE PROPERTY. AND SO THAT'S THE SECOND ONE.

AND SO YOU GUYS HAVE TWO THINGS. ONE SAYS 006 AND THEN ONE SAYS 007 FOR THE NOBLE HALL PUDS.

AND SO THOSE ARE JUST THE GOVERNING CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AND SO ON. THIS FIRST ONE FOR THE EASEMENT PROPERTY, THERE'S THE ANNEXATION, A REZONE AND REZONE TO PUD. AND SO THEN ON THE NEXT ONE, THE ONE IS ALREADY IN THE CITY.

THERE'S JUST A REZONING TO THE PUD. LIKE I SAID, THE FIRST 1006 IS A LAND CONSERVATION FOCUSED ONE, AND THE NEXT ONE IS A HISTORIC, PRESERVATION FOCUSED ONE.

THERE'S PUBLIC HEARINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REZONINGS.

BUT I GUESS KIND OF JUST KIND OF LIKE CHAIR MENTIONED.

PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE NOT A Q AND A AND THEN I GUESS KIND OF ALSO IF IF YOU'VE ALREADY ALREADY KIND OF MADE, MADE YOUR POINT, LIKE ON, ON AN ITEM LIKE I SAID, WE WILL ADDRESS IT.

BUT WITH MULTIPLE ITEMS WITH ONE SINGLE ITEM HAVING MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

LIKE I SAID, JUST WE'LL RESPOND, RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS.

SO I GUESS WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW, JUST KIND OF WHAT THE PODS WERE BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S VERY TRICKY, JUST KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF KIND OF STARTING AT THE TOP AND THEN NOT KNOWING KIND OF WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON AT THE END. SO WE'RE KIND OF WORK TOWARDS THAT IN THE FUTURE. WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE ANNEXATION. THANKS.

GOOD EVENING. AS JUSTICE EXPLAINED, THIS IS FOR ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 64 ACRES.

IT'S LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SHELTON MILL, JUST SOUTH OF BRIDLEWOOD DRIVE.

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IT IS JUST NORTH OF THE PROPERTY THAT NOBLE HALL RESIDES ON.

THIS DOES HAVE AN ANNEXATION PRIORITY OF HIGH.

AND NORMALLY THIS WOULD BE ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, BUT SINCE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS THAT'S WHY YOU ARE CONSIDERING UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS IS AN ANNEXATION AND DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS. I'LL MAKE THEM.

DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE AX 2026-010.

NOBLE HALL ANNEXATION. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

NEXT UP IS THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY YOU JUST RECOMMENDED FOR ANNEXATION REZONING FROM RURAL TO COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

[3. Rezoning – Noble Hall Easement Property CDD – PUBLIC HEARING ]

THE REASON FOR THIS REZONING IS SO THAT THE PROPERTY CAN THEN BE REZONED TO PUD AT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, AS THERE IS NO REZONING TWO PUD FROM RURAL. AND IF YOU.

IT'S BEST IF YOU. IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF PUD, THEN TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, REZONING THE CBD.

BUT IF NOT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AGAINST THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS REZONING DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF ANYBODY WISHES TO COME FORWARD. REZONING OF NOBLE HALL CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M WARREN JOLLY WITH NOBLE HALL PLANTATION, LLC. GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY. ANN PEARSON OWNED ALL THIS PROPERTY.

SHE DIED IN 2020, AND THEN IN 22, SHE GAVE THE SEED PIECE THAT YOU SEE IN KIND OF PINK AND THE WHITE PIECE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, AND THE PIECE ACROSS THE STREET OUTSIDE THE CITY TO AUBURN UNIVERSITY REAL ESTATE FOUNDATION.

SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET WAS A PARK PUT THERE BY THE THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY. AND THEN THE CITY AND THE UNIVERSITY WERE LOOKING AT DOING A DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET.

THEY LOOKED AT EVENT CENTER, THEY LOOKED LIKE A BUNCH OF OTHER ISSUES.

AND IT REALLY CAME TO THE MAIN THING WAS TRYING TO RESTORE THEIR OLD HOUSE.

THEY USED THE OLD HOUSE AS A PUBLIC INSTITUTION, THE HANDRAILS AND ADA AND ELEVATORS.

AND SO THEY'RE BASICALLY GOING TO HAVE TO DESTROY THE BUILDING TO REALLY REPAIR THE BUILDING.

SO THEY DECIDED AFTER LONG STUDIES THAT IT WAS BETTER TO PROBABLY SELL THE PROPERTY.

AND SO THEY WENT THROUGH A PROCESS AND MY WIFE AND I WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO PURCHASE BOTH PIECES THAT WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT WITH AUBURN UNIVERSITY FOUNDATION. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS REALLY CLEAN A LOT, A LOT OF ISSUES.

SO THE PIECE THAT WE'RE ASKING THE ZONE OBVIOUSLY IS TO GET TO PPDP YOU DO AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND IT WILL BE DEVELOPED NO MORE INTENSE THAN IT IS CURRENTLY WITH CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

SO RIGHT NOW THIS PROPERTY HAS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT WITH ALABAMA GEORGIA TRUST OR GEORGIA ALABAMA TRUST.

AND SO WE'RE ASKING TO DO THE SAME THING. AND JUST PUT IT TO PUD BUT WE'RE ALSO ANNEXING IT TO THE CITY BECAUSE WE WANT ALL OF IT TO BE IN THE CITY. WE DON'T WANT TWO DIFFERENT TAX JURISDICTIONS.

AND ULTIMATELY WE'RE ASKING TO TAKE THE CBD THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE OVERALL PIECE, THE NEXT APPLICATION TO TAKE IT TO PUD AND TAKE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AWAY TO A FEW NUMBER OF HOUSES. SO RIGHT NOW, ON THIS 64 ACRES WHERE THERE'S A CURRENT, A HOUSE AND A BARN, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD TWO MORE HOUSES ON IT, AND THEY HAVE TO BE IN A FIVE ACRE SPREAD ON, ON THE PROPERTY. OTHER THAN THAT, THE PROPERTY HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO CLEANING IT UP AS A SMALL LAKE ON IT THAT WE NEED TO DO SOME WORK.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, JUST IT'S GOING TO BE A PERSONAL PROPERTY FOR US A SECOND HOME AND AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE HOUSING ON THE OTHER TRACK, WHAT WE PLAN TO DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NO ONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS.

I MOVE WE APPROVE RZ 2026 005. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

[4. Rezoning – Noble Hall Easement Property PUD – PUBLIC HEARING ]

ALL RIGHT. SO THE NOBLE HALL EASEMENT PROPERTY P D SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, PUD IS SOMETHING LIKE A RECENT ORDINANCE THAT WE DID JUST CREATE.

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ROUGHLY A YEAR AGO, WE HAD THE FIRST PDD FIRST, FIRST PUD GO THROUGH A COUPLE MONTHS AGO FOUNDRY.

THAT WAS COMPLETE OPPOSITE END OF THE SPECTRUM FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT, 2400 UNITS.

I THINK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF CONCERN KIND OF AROUND TOWN ABOUT CONSERVATION AND LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON THE HEELS OF THAT.

I MEAN, THIS, THIS PROPERTY, LIKE I SAID, IS ASSOCIATED WITH IT REALLY JUST KIND OF IN PROXIMITY AND REALLY DOES KIND OF ADD TO THE CHARACTER OF KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. BUT IN REALITY, THIS NOBLE HALL DOES NOT SIT ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

NOBLE HALL IS TO THE SOUTH OF THIS. AND THIS IS REALLY JUST A LAND CONSERVATION PUD THAT REALLY WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE UNDER ANYTHING ELSE.

EVEN WE CAN'T TAKE AWAY DENSITY ON PLOTS. WE CAN'T TAKE AWAY DENSITY THROUGH ZONING.

THE ONLY WAY WE WE CAN DO THAT, EVEN IF IT WAS ZONED RULE, THEY'D ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO SUBDIVIDE CONVENTIONALLY, WHICH THREE ACRE MINIMUMS. LIKE I MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THIS IS THREE, A MAX OF THREE DWELLING UNITS ON 64 ACRES, WHICH IS ABOUT ONE DWELLING UNIT EVERY 21 ACRES OR SO.

THAT'S VIRTUALLY NO DENSITY. AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK THIS IS THIS IS REALLY JUST A LAND CONSERVATION PUD THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WORKING IN CONCERT WITH THE NOBLE HALL, REALLY KIND OF WORKING TOWARDS THE ENTIRE GOAL OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.

I GUESS KIND OF THE OTHER, THE OTHER PART OF THIS, THERE ARE THE GOVERNING CONDITIONS THAT DID HAND YOU GUYS BEFORE, SO WE CAN CLICK THROUGH THE NEXT SLIDE. SAME LOCATION FRONTS.

BRIDAL WOULD DRIVE HERE. THERE'S A POND THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT. KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING.

THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, SO YOU GUYS CAN NOTICE THE CHANGE ON NUMBER FOUR, THERE IS.

THE OWNER SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAINTAIN A REASONABLY ENLARGED EXISTING POND OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S JUST SOME LANGUAGE CHANGE ON THAT. SO I'LL SAY JUST PROBABLY MAKE AN AMENDMENT ON PROBABLY.

HOW SHOULD WE DO THIS. PROBABLY TO AMEND THE FIRST FIVE CONDITIONS OF THE.

I GUESS OF THE OF THIS PUD LET ME GO TO GO TO THE STAFF REPORT AND SEE SEE HOW IT WAS WRITTEN.

BUT WE JUST NEED TO AMEND THE GOVERNING CONDITIONS TO REALLY JUST KIND OF ACCEPT THIS ONE. I GUESS, HONESTLY, IT MIGHT JUST BE THE FOURTH CONDITION SINCE THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS A CHANGE IN IT. MR. FIVE. YEAH. PAGE FIVE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN? I MEAN, IT'S JUST A VERY FEW WORDS CHANGE.

WHAT WAS THE CHANGE ABOUT? WHY DID WE. YEAH. I GUESS THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

BUT THAT WAS JUST REALLY JUST SOMETHING I IMAGINE JUST KIND OF WITH A LOT OF THE LEGAL INTERESTS INVOLVED, JUST KIND OF FROM THE CONSERVATION TO THE UNIVERSITY TO THE ACTUAL APPLICANT WORKING THROUGH IT, TO ALSO THE ESTATE. I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF LAWYERS INVOLVED AND REALLY JUST KIND OF COMING UP WITH WHAT THESE CONDITIONS ARE. AND SO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THIS, I SAID, LOOK, A LOT MORE ROBUST THAN SOME OF THE PLANNING ONES. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THESE MATCH THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SET FORTH ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHY THESE ARE VERY ROBUST CONDITIONS THAT KIND OF GOVERN IT.

AND SO NOT TO DISCOURAGE ANYONE FROM, I GUESS, COVENANTS OR ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS, BUT IT'S THE WAY THIS IS REALLY JUST KIND OF THE REDUNDANCY OF ENFORCEMENT AND GIVING AN ENFORCEMENT BODY THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY KIND OF FOLLOW THROUGH ON THESE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS KIND OF, AND PUTTING THEM, CODIFYING THEM THROUGH THE PUD, THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF MAKING THEM A PART OF THE PUD.

SO REALLY, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY JUST MAKING THE AMENDMENT TO THE FOURTH CONDITION OF ON ZERO SIX, REALLY JUST KIND OF THE OWNER SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT WHEN WE MAKE THE MOTION NOTE THE ADDITIONAL.

YES. THE CHANGE. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. AND SO I GUESS KIND OF THE OTHER THING THAT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THERE'S THE NO SHORT TERM RENTALS SHORT TERM NON-PRIMARY RENTALS EXPRESSLY NOT ALLOWED.

AND THEN ALSO ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ASSOCIATED WITH MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENTS ARE WAIVED. AND SO THOSE ARE THE BIG ONES FROM THE PLANNING SIDE. AND SO TECHNICALLY, SINCE THIS PROPERTY CANNOT BE SUBDIVIDED DUE TO DEED RESTRICTIONS, IT IS A MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENT. BUT NATURALLY I SAID NATURALLY WE'RE GOING TO WAIVE ALL OF THOSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A TRADITIONAL ONE. IT'S NOT A GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT OR ANYTHING. THESE ARE REALLY JUST MULTIPLE HOMES ON ONE LOT, AND THAT IS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY DUE TO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS. THANK YOU.

THIS REZONING TO POD DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL OPEN THAT AT THIS TIME IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AGAIN. WARREN JOLLY.

JUSTICE IS CORRECT. AND THIS IS WHY WE KEPT TWO SEPARATE ZONING APPLICATIONS SO THAT THINGS WOULD NOT GET CROSSED OVER FROM PROPERTY TO PROPERTY BECAUSE EACH PROPERTY HAS DIFFERENT RIGHTS. AND SO JUSTICE IS CORRECT ON THE DEED RESTRICTIONS IS REALLY THE OTHER PROPERTY.

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THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN CONTROLLED BY THE, THE EASEMENT WITH ALABAMA OR GEORGIA, ALABAMA TRUST.

SO IT DOES HAVE SOME DEED RESTRICTIONS. SO WHAT, WHAT THE LAST CHANGE WAS, IS JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE AUBURN UNIVERSITY FOUNDATION HAS BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR OVER A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF. WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THEM SINCE NOVEMBER.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ATTORNEYS INVOLVED WITH THE FAMILY WITH THE UNIVERSITY.

OBVIOUSLY. SO WE ARE TRYING TO MIRROR EVERYTHING WORD FOR WORD JUST SO THINGS CAN'T GET MIXED UP.

AND THAT'S WHY WE EVEN PUT THEM IN TWO SEPARATE APPLICATIONS.

SO IT'S CLEAR THIS PROPERTY CAN ONLY HAVE TWO HOUSES.

IT CAN ONLY YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, DO A FEW THINGS.

YOU CAN IMPROVE THE LAKE AND KEEP IT UP NORMAL AS PROPERTY.

YOU CAN'T SUBDIVIDE IT, YOU CAN'T PLOT IT. AND THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'VE AGREED TO THAT ARE IN THE THE ALABAMA IN THE EASEMENT. SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE APPRECIATE YOU TO APPROVE IT WITH JUSTICES CHANGES WITH THE RED LINE MARKS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS.

QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE.

OH, SORRY. WITH THE CHANGE. WITH THE CHANGE. YES.

MOVE TO APPROVE. RZ 2026 006 WITH THE AMENDED CHANGE TO ITEM FOUR UNDER GOVERNING CONDITIONS.

SECOND. THAT'LL WORK. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

[5. Rezoning – Noble Hall Core Property PUD – PUBLIC HEARING]

ALL RIGHT. NOBLE HALL CORE PROPERTY. PUD. ALL RIGHT.

SO IF YOU COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE SITE PLAN OF IT.

THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. OKAY. SO THIS ONE IS ACTUAL NOBLE HALL PROPERTY.

54 ACRES ACTUALLY AS NOBLE HALL ON IT HAS THE THREE HOUSES.

SO AS YOU GUYS SEE, JUST KIND OF THE GRAY ARE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT ARE TO REMAIN.

AND THEN THE WHITE ARE THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS.

SO LIKE MR. JOLLY STATED, THEY ARE, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A COUPLE MORE HOUSES.

SO IT'S REALLY JUST GOING TO BE THEIR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. SO HERE'S KIND OF HOW THE USES OF THIS BREAK DOWN.

SO THE, OBVIOUSLY THE MOST, THE, THE BIGGEST THING ON THE PROPERTY, I THINK THE MOST PROMINENT FEATURE OF THE PROPERTY IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE NOBLE HALL.

AND SO TO PRESERVE THAT AND PRESERVE THE VIEW SHED, THERE ARE CONDITIONS THAT MAINTAIN THAT NOTHING IS SUPPOSED TO SIT IN FRONT OF.

NO HALL, NO STRUCTURE. SO REALLY JUST KIND OF MAINTAIN THE VIEW SHED.

AND THEN THEY ALSO ARE GOING TO TURN THE BARN QUASI PERPENDICULAR TO THE ROAD.

SO THE BARNS FACE DOESN'T REALLY TAKE AWAY FROM THE PROMINENCE OF NOBLE HALL AS WELL.

AND SO THEY HAVE, I GUESS, KIND OF GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF IT.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, I GUESS I DON'T I GUESS I'LL LET MR. JOLLY KIND OF EXPLAIN KIND OF WHAT THEY CAN DO, WHAT THEY CAN DEMOLISH, KEEP AND THOSE THINGS.

BUT FROM THE, FROM A USE STANDPOINT, THESE ARE GOING TO BE USED AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THERE'S ALSO THE ABILITY TO USE THIS AS AN EVENT SPACE, BUT A PRIVATE EVENT SPACE.

SO EVENT SPACE THROUGH AUBURN UNIVERSITY. AND ALSO IF MR. JOLLY INTENDS, WANTS TO HOST ANY PRIVATE EVENTS.

BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE BOOKABLE THROUGH A THIRD PARTY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A WEDDING VENUE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE SET UP FOR PRIVATE EVENTS AS I THROUGH O AND THEN ALSO THROUGH MR. JOLLY. SO FROM AN EVENTS. SO FROM A YOUTH STANDPOINT, THIS IS REALLY GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL AND GOING TO HAVE SOME AGRICULTURAL USES AS WELL. SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE FARM ANIMALS.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE, SOME COMMISSIONERS DID MENTION THE HUNTING.

AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE INSTANCES WHERE EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A PUD, THE DESIRE WAS FOR THIS TO MAINTAIN RURAL USES.

SO RURAL USES SUCH AS AGRICULTURAL USES, RAISING ANIMALS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEN ALSO THE HUNTING ASPECT AS WELL.

AND THEN THE EVENT SPACE. AND LIKE I SAID, PRIVATE NON BOOKABLE WON'T BE BOOKABLE THROUGH A THIRD PARTY OR ANYTHING.

JUST REALLY SOMETHING THAT OWNER'S DISCRETION ALSO KIND OF WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH AUBURN UNIVERSITY TO HOST THESE.

AND SO THIS ONE IS MUCH MORE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ONE.

MR.. AND THEY DID PREPARE A POWERPOINT WHERE THEY KIND OF HAVE RENDERINGS KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE EXTENT OF THE THINGS THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT.

IT'S ALMOST SECONDARY TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS PDA LOT, A LOT MORE OF THIS WORK REALLY GETS STARTED KIND OF TALKING WITH CODES AND INSPECTIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS ARE HISTORIC, CAN'T EVER REALLY BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE, BUT THEY ARE REPAIRING THEM, WORKING THROUGH THEM ON THAT REGARD. THAT IS WHERE THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THIS REALLY DOES KIND OF LIE.

LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THIS ONE OF THE MAIN CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY NOBLE HALL CAN'T BE RAZED OR DESTROYED MUST BE MAINTAINED IN PERPETUITY. SO LIKE I SAID, THIS ONE'S MUCH, MUCH GREATER EMPHASIS ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF THE ACTUAL SITE.

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DEED RESTRICTIONS CAN'T BE SUBDIVIDED AS YOU GUYS SEE.

WITH THIS CURRENT LAYOUT, THEY'RE LOOKING AT TAKING OFF THE ENTRY ON SHELTON MILL ROAD FOR THE GUTHRIE HOUSE AND THEN CONSOLIDATING THAT INTO THE BIGGER LOOP THAT IS AROUND NOBLE HALL. YEAH. SO LIKE I SAID, HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOCUSED PUD AND REALLY KIND OF LIKE WE'VE KIND OF STRESSED.

I MEAN, THE PUD IS OPENED REALLY FOR A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE INSTANCES WHERE THEIR HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOCUSED ON LAND CONSERVATION FOCUS.

AND REALLY JUST KIND OF MENTIONED ON THE LAST ONE, WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE UNDER ANY OTHER ZONING DISTRICT IN THE CITY. AND SO IT WAS A GOOD THING THAT WE HAD A PD P D TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE, REALLY KIND OF RESTRICT DEVELOPMENT.

THE OVERALL TOTAL DWELLING UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE SEVEN THAT THEY POSSIBLY COULD BUILD.

AND SO THAT'S SEVEN ON ROUGHLY 54 ACRES. JUST ONCE AGAIN, GOING TO MAINTAIN THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THIS AND TAKE A TAKE A, I GUESS IN THE FACE OF A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE ON MILL ROAD TAKING 118 ACRES OR SO, JUST KIND OF OUT OFF OF REALLY KIND OF OUT FROM, FROM DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. SO THIS IS THE SAME. WE HAVE AMENDMENTS TO GOVERNING BODY. YES.

YEAH. GREAT POINT, GREAT POINT. OKAY, SO THERE ARE THESE.

SO IT'S NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER THREE. AND THEN I GUESS I ALSO WANTED TO AMEND, I GUESS THE FIFTH CONDITION THAT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHERE THE GREENWAY EASEMENT NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY. AND SO REALLY JUST KIND OF MAKING A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC.

SO GREENWAY EASEMENT KIND OF SOUTH OF THE CREEK PRETTY MUCH.

SO THAT CONDITION, I GUESS WE'LL, I'LL UPDATE IT IN THE COUNCIL STAFF REPORT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE THE GREENWAY EASEMENT NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY SOUTH OF THE CREEK, ON THE PROPERTY, ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY LINE OF THE PROPERTY. AND SO THAT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT FOR THAT ONE.

SO THE PRESENTED AMENDMENT FOR GOVERNING CONDITION NUMBER ONE GOVERNING CONDITION NUMBER THREE, AND THEN GOVERNING CONDITION NUMBER FIVE, THAT THE GREENWAY EASEMENT NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY SOUTH OF THE CREEK.

OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS REZONING TO PUD DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING. I'D LIKE TO OPEN THAT AT THIS TIME IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.

IT'S BEEN A BUSY NIGHT. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN.

THIS IS A REALLY A FUN THING TO BE INVOLVED WITH.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ALL THE HISTORY OF NOVA HALL, BUT IT WAS BUILT IN 1854, SO.

AND IT WAS INDUCTED INTO THE HISTORIC PLACES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

IT'S REALLY, IT'S HENRY FOSTER ARCHITECT, GREEK REVIVAL ARCHITECTURE.

IF YOU EVER NOT SEEN IT, IT'S REALLY PHENOMENAL HOUSE.

IT'S REALLY FOUR MAIN ROOMS WITH A HALLWAY, 12 FOOT CEILINGS IT'S GOT WINDOWS THAT OPEN UP AS DOORWAYS TO THE PORCHES.

SO IT'S REALLY I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF SOME STUFF IN A MINUTE.

BUT IT, IT'S A NATIONAL REGISTER IN 1972 WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST HOUSE IN LEE COUNTY TO EVER BE PUT ON NATIONAL REGISTER.

SO THE MAIN THING ABOUT THE PROPERTY IS RESTORING THE HOUSE, THIS LITTLE HISTORY MY WIFE AND I, HAVE RESTORED SEVERAL HOUSES. WE HAVE A HOUSE IN DOWNTOWN CHARLESTON THAT WE RESTORED.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST PHOTOGRAPHED HOUSES AT THE CORNER OF CHURCH AND ATLANTIC STREET. WE LIVE IN ONE OF THE TOP FIVE HOUSES IN ATLANTA THAT WE RESTORED.

NEIL REED AND CHOUCHI DID THE PLANS. WE'RE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION ON WEST PACES.

FERRY HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1912. THE HOUSE IN CHARLESTON WAS BUILT IN 1724.

ALSO WE GAVE I DEVELOPED THE CORNER OF PIEDMONT PONCE AND NORTH AVENUE WITH THE OLD MANSION RESTAURANT WAS DOWNTOWN. THAT WAS A HISTORIC HOME CALLED THE PETERS HOME, ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS HOUSES IN ATLANTA.

AND IT WAS A RESTAURANT. AND WE GAVE THAT HOUSE TO SCAD, SAVANNAH SCHOOL OF ARTS, AND THEY RESTORED IT, WHICH THEY RESTORED, YOU KNOW, 2,000,000FT² OF HOMES IN CHARLESTON.

IT WAS FIVE EXTINCT WOODS. IT'S PHENOMENAL. THEY USE IT FOR EVENT FACILITY AND OTHER STUFF.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY IS, IS, IS IT'S NOT, IT'S GOING TO BE A PRIMARY RESIDENCE, BUT IT'S NOT FULL TIME. WE'RE THE THE UNIVERSITY, WE'RE DOING VIDEOS ON THE RESTORATION OF THE PROPERTY THROUGH SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS OF AUBURN UNIVERSITY. IT CAN BE USED FOR OTHER STUFF.

THE THE IDEA OF THE EVENT STUFF COULD BE. THERE'S A LOT OF EVENTS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN WITH LIKE THE NURSING, THE BLUE JEAN BALL AND STUFF LIKE THINGS THERE CAN BE CLOSER TO CAMPUS.

THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LOOK FOR. IF YOU CAN SHOW THROUGH THE SLIDES, JUST, I CAN KIND OF SHOW YOU HOW IT HAS THREE CURRENT HOUSES ON IT NOW AND SEVERAL OUTBUILDINGS. AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER.

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YEAH, THAT'S THE OTHER ONE. THERE WE GO. GO BACK TO THE COLORED ONE RIGHT THERE.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT GO BACK. YEAH. THE AERIAL. SO THE BIG BLACK HOUSE, DARK HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE IS OBVIOUSLY NOAH HALL.

THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS BESIDE IT. THOSE ARE BASICALLY TWO OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WE WANT TO ADD.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE AROUND THE ROAD TO THE LEFT.

THESE ARE PLANTATION STYLE ARCHITECTURE. THEY'RE LOW HOUSES.

THEY'RE SMALL. YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT TWO STOREY.

THEY'RE NOT MASSIVE. THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO FOCUS THE STREET AND FACADE TO NOBLE HALL.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMNS, IT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, FANTASTIC COLUMNS.

AND THEY'VE GOT SQUARE COLUMNS ON THE BACK FRONT AROUND, AND THEY GOT THE CANTILEVER BALCONIES ON THE FRONT.

AND THEN THE BARN IS ALSO ANOTHER BUILDING APPROVED.

THERE'S ONE MORE. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A HOUSE, THE GUTHRIE HOUSE, THERE'S A SHARECROPPER HOUSE AND NOBLE HALL.

SO THERE'S THREE HOUSES CURRENTLY WE'RE SHOWING THREE MORE.

SO ONLY ONE MORE COULD BE ADDED FOR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF RESIDENCES YOU CAN BUILD.

WE CAN HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD LIKE A GARAGE OR OUTBUILDING OR STORAGE BUILDING NEXT TO THESE RESIDENCES.

OUR PLAN IS TO GO THROUGH THE ARC. SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND OVERHAUL.

THERE'S. SO IF YOU CAN LOOK. THIS IS A PICTURE FROM WHEN IT WAS REGISTERED IN 1972.

YOU CAN TELL LIKE THINGS LIKE THE FIREPLACE, THE DETAIL IN THE FIREPLACES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST STRAIGHT UP.

NOW THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD RESTORE. THERE'S BEEN A BACK STAIR ADDED ON THE BACK, SO SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.

OKAY. THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN WE GET FINISHED.

SO IT'S STUCCO. AND IF YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT HISTORY OF STUCCO EVERYTHING WAS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE EUROPEAN DESIGN TO LOOK LIKE STONE.

SO THEY WOULD STUCCO IT AND SCORE THE LINES SO YOU CAN GET REAL CLOSE AND YOU CAN SEE ALL THE LINES, BUT IT'S BEEN STUCCO SO MUCH YOU CAN'T SEE IT.

SO WE BASICALLY WOULD RESTORE THE STUCCO, REPLACE THE THE SHUTTERS.

AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS A NEW ROOF AND A LOT OF OTHER STUFF.

BUT YOU KNOW, THE OUTSIDE WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS.

WE WOULD BE TAKING AWAY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED THAT WEREN'T TO THE ORIGINAL HOUSE, SUCH THAT THERE'S A LITTLE GARAGE IN THE BACK AND THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, BACK STAIRWAY AND SO FORTH.

BUT THIS IS WHAT THE END RESULT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

GO THROUGH A COUPLE MORE, IF YOU DON'T MIND. YEAH.

SO I GUESS WITH THE TIME BEING UP, IF YOU GUYS JUST WANT TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND THAT WAY YOU CAN GET THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.

BUT YEAH, HE HAS TO, HE HAS TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS NOW, I GUESS, OR AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU'RE THE APPLICANT.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'M GOING TO ASK TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK, AND THEN YOU CAN COME BACK FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS PUBLIC, THIS AGENDA ITEM DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING NO ONE. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, I DO.

YEAH. SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE REST OF THE RENOVATIONS THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING OF EARLIER.

AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, HOW IS HUNTING GOING TO WORK ON THAT PROPERTY WITH THE PROXIMITY TOWARDS SHELTON MILL ROAD? OKAY. THE FIRST QUESTION YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ABOUT THE RENOVATIONS AS YOU WERE SPEAKING.

SO OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVEN'T, THERE'S SOME PICTURES I LIKE TO SHOW IF YOU CAN SHOW THOSE.

I GUESS THESE SHOULD BE. SO I GUESS IF OTHER PICTURES AT THE VERY BOTTOM.

I'M SORRY. YEAH. OH YEAH. HERE WE GO. THERE WE GO.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT HAS THESE OLD HOUSES HAD IN-LINE GUTTER SYSTEMS AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE CORNICE DETAIL. SO THIS ONE'S BEEN FAILING FOR PROBABLY 20 YEARS.

SO WHAT'S HAPPENED? ALL THE WATER HAS BEEN RUNNING INSIDE.

SO THE HOUSE HAS FOUR MAIN FIREPLACES THAT ARE YOU KNOW, THEY STACK UP.

SO THERE'S EIGHT TOTAL. SO WATER'S BEEN GETTING THIS HOUSE.

IT'S ALSO IT'S A SOLID MASONRY HOUSE. SO ALL THE PERIMETER WALLS AND ALL THE INTERIOR MAIN INTERIOR WALLS ARE ALL MASONRY ABOUT 18IN THICK.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE CANTILEVERS GO THROUGH THERE JUSTICE SOME OF THE OUTDOOR PICTURES SO YOU CAN SEE THE WATER.

WHAT'S HAPPENED. SO YOU REALLY GOT TO TAKE THE WHOLE CORNICE.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS TAKE PIECES DOWN AND REBUILD THEM TO THE SAME SIZE AND GET NEW WOOD TO BE ABLE TO PUT BACK,

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BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE THIS STUFF ANYMORE. YOU CAN'T BUY IT.

SO YOU HAVE TO KIND OF MILL IT AND BE CAREFUL WITH, YOU KNOW, HOLDING THE COLUMNS UP AS YOU TAKE THE ROOF OFF.

SO THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE ROOF BECAUSE THE ROOF IS FAILED.

I DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW YOU PICTURES INSIDE, BUT HALF THE CEILING ON THE SECOND LEVEL HAS COME IN.

AND SO AND SO IT, IT'S THE FLOOR HAS BEEN PROTECTED.

WE'VE WORKED WITH AUBURN UNIVERSITY FOUNDATION, WE'VE GOT TARPS, DEHUMIDIFIERS.

SO PART OF THE ISSUE WITH THIS HOUSE IS IT'S ONLY NEED TO GET TO IT PRETTY QUICK, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S WHAT BEEN GETTING DRUG OUT. BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE GOT MOLD, YOU'VE GOT OTHER THINGS ALL NEW ELECTRICAL, ALL NEW HVAC, ALL NEW PLUMBING. I MEAN, PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT HAS TO BE DONE.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO RESTORING ALL THE SECONDARY HOUSES.

THIS IS WHAT ONE OF THE LITTLE GUEST HOUSES WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO, YOU KNOW, SMALL ARCHITECTURE METAL ROOF, BUT THERE'S A COOK HOUSE, THERE'S A KITCHEN HOUSE.

AND SO A COUPLE WELL HOUSES. SO WE'RE ALSO RESTORING THOSE BUILDINGS, BUT OUR MAIN FOCUS IS TO START THE HOUSE.

AND WE HAVE A TIMELINE WITH THE UNIVERSITY THAT WE HAVE TO START THAT FAR AS THE HUNTING, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALLOWED NOW, YOU KNOW, AND, BUT BASICALLY IT WOULD BE RIFLE HUNTING.

IT'S JUST BOW HUNTING. IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE SQUIRREL HUNTING BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING YOUR ATTIC. I MEAN, BUT IT'S JUST HAVING HUNTING RIGHTS, YOU KNOW? RIGHT, RIGHT. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? I THINK SO.

MISS LAVERNE, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE YOU HAVE WITH THE UNIVERSITY THAT YOU MENTIONED? I'M SORRY, THE TIMELINE THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE UNIVERSITY. WELL, HOPEFULLY IF THAT GOES THROUGH, WE'LL BE CLOSING IN PROBABLY EARLY JULY, MIDDLE OF JULY.

AND WE WOULD BE STARTING WE GOT LIKE 90 DAYS TO START.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE'VE ALREADY, WE'RE WORKING WITH JOHN AND, YOU KNOW, PERMITTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE WERE SOME ISSUES THAT WE HAD TO WORK OUT WITH FIRE.

WE WORKED THOSE ISSUES OUT. WE, WE'VE ALREADY HAVE SEWER APPROVAL TO THE SITE.

IT'S, EVERYTHING'S ON SEPTIC TANKS, SEWERS ACROSS THE CREEK.

WE ALREADY GOT IT DESIGNED FROM BRETT BASQUIN TO BRING SEWER ACROSS THE STREET SO WE CAN PUT EVERYTHING ON SEWER INSTEAD OF SEPTIC, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY PROBABLY NOT WORKING, YOU KNOW, SO SO THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THAT WORK ALREADY.

SO WE'RE READY TO GO AS SOON AS WE CAN GET STARTED.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE CASE Z 2026 007 WITH WITH AMENDMENTS TO GOVERNING GOVERNING CONDITIONS ONE, THREE AND FIVE I SHOULD SAY YES. SO I GUESS WHAT THE SO FIVE CURRENTLY SAYS THE GREENWAY EASEMENT NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.

AND THE AMENDMENT WILL MAKE IT SAY THE GREENWAY EASEMENT NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED.

YEAH. YEAH. RIGHT. THE GREENWAY EASEMENT SOUTH OF SOUTH CREEK NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.

SO I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, I'D LIKE TO RESTATE THE MOTION.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR RZ 2026 007 TO INCLUDE AMENDMENTS TO THE GOVERNING CONDITIONS OF ONE, THREE AND FIVE THAT WILL NOW SAY THE GREENWAY EASEMENT NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY SOUTH OF THE CREEK.

MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. SO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A REQUEST FROM HERE IN PATEL.

[6. Conditional Use – Tiger Spirit Hemp – PUBLIC HEARING ]

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL FOR A COMMERCIAL ENTERTAINMENT USE ALL OTHERS.

WHICH IS SPECIALTY RETAILER OF CONSUMABLE HEMP PRODUCTS.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 600 WEBSTER ROAD AND IS ZONED COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OR CBD.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE PROPERTY TAKES ACCESS OFF OF WEBSTER ROAD.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I DO REALIZE THAT THE CITY CODE HAS A BARRIER STIPULATION, A MINIMUM THAT YOU HAVE TO BE AWAY TO HAVE CONSUMABLE HEMP LICENSE.

I BELIEVE THE WEST AUBURN BAPTIST CHURCH, WHICH IS TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY, IS MORE THAN THE REQUIRED 250FT BARRIER.

SO THAT DOES MEET THAT. SO TO SAY. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THIS CASE DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU ARE HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS TIGER SPIRITS HEMP, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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COMMISSIONERS. SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS WHEN DOES THE ZONING AMENDMENT GO INTO EFFECT FOR HEMP PRODUCTS? TUESDAY. BY TUESDAY. TUESDAY. YEAH. SO NEXT WEEK.

SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S ON. ALL OF THE REZONING AMENDMENTS ARE TREATED AS REZONINGS OR AMENDMENTS, TEXT AMENDMENTS. THEY'RE ALL TREATED THE SAME. AND SO THEY COME TO YOU ALL AND THEN THEY MUST BE PUBLISHED AGAIN FOR A FULL 22 DAYS.

PRETTY MUCH KIND OF IN BETWEEN THE MEETINGS. SO NORMALLY THERE'S, IT'S ABOUT A 60 DAY TIME FRAME.

AND SO THIS CONDITIONAL USE IS BEING HEARD UNDER ALL OTHER STIPULATION, BUT WAS STILL SUBJECT TO THE BARRIERS SET FORTH IN CITY CODE THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED A MONTH AGO. AND SO THOSE ZONING CHANGES DO TAKE EFFECT TUESDAY NIGHT.

SHOULD THEY BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL? OKAY, GREAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WAIT A MINUTE. SO ARE WE CREATING A NONCONFORMING? NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO THE NO NO NO. SO SO I GUESS SO WE HAD GOOD QUESTIONS.

SO WE HAD MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS FOR CONSUMABLE HEMP AND STAFF THROUGHOUT TWO OF THEM BECAUSE THEY DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE BARRIERS SET FORTH BY THE CITY BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO THIS WOULD COMPLY WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE OR THE FUTURE ZONING AMENDMENTS.

AND THIS COMPLIES WITH THE CITY CODE. AND SO ONES THAT DID NOT, LIKE I SAID, WERE NOT ALLOWED TO COME. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS JUST BEING HEARD UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE ALL OTHER CASES NOW.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION.

OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS MOVE TO APPROVE KCU2026-019.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE PLANNERS WHO ACTUALLY HAS ALL OF THESE THREE CASES HE IS OUT TODAY BECAUSE HE IS ATTENDING HIS SISTER'S GRADUATION.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS I HAVE THE REST OF THESE EXCEPT FOR THE EXCEPT FOR THE WAIVERS.

ALL RIGHT. SO 527 TEMPLE STREET CONDITIONAL USE.

[7. Conditional Use – 527 Temple Street – PUBLIC HEARING]

SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF A PERFORMANCE RESIDENTIAL USE.

THIS IS A TRIPLEX ON TEMPLE STREET IN CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT.

URBAN. SO THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE LAST KIND OF NORTH SOUTH STREETS BEFORE YOU GET TO DEAN ROAD ON OPELIKA ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THE BIGGEST CONDITION JUST KIND OF ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ONE IS THAT SHOULD THERE, I GUESS, SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED? AND I GUESS KIND OF IN THE FUTURE, LIKE WITH REDEVELOPMENT NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECTS TO THE NORTH OF IT.

THAT IF WASHINGTON THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE WASHINGTON COURT TO CONNECT THE TEMPLE STREET DUE TO THE NEW OPELIKA ROAD PLAN, AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO RECONFIGURE THEIR ACCESS TO REMOVE ACCESS FROM TEMPLE STREET AND THEN THEN TAKE ACCESS FROM THE FUTURE OF WASHINGTON COURT.

BUT THIS IS A TRIPLEX THREE BED DEVELOPMENT, NO STRUCTURED PARKING, ALL SURFACE STREET PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY.

THERE CURRENTLY IS A CHURCH TO THE SOUTH OF IT.

AND THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESS USES DOWN THERE AND ALMOST QUASI NOT INDUSTRIAL, BUT I'D SAY JUST KIND OF LIKE, LIKE JUST KIND OF ON THAT FRINGE LINE DOWN THAT STREET.

AND THEN ALSO ACROSS THE STREET, JUST KIND OF WHERE THOSE LONG BOXES ARE.

THOSE ARE STORAGE UNITS. THEN ALSO TOW TRUCK AREA OVER THERE.

SO I MEAN, ADDING RESIDENTIAL OVER HERE. THE MIX OF USE IS CURRENTLY, LIKE I SAID, IS A LITANY OF COMMERCIAL USES AND KIND OF LOW INTENSITY INDUSTRIAL THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN THIS WOULD BE JUST ADDING MULTIFAMILY IN THIS AREA.

THERE WAS AN EXISTING RESIDENCE HERE THAT'S GOING BACK AND ADDING DENSITY IN AN AREA.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, CCRD YOU KIND OF WHAT WE ENVISIONED KIND OF FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT SO THAT THIS WOULD MAKE REDEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS POSSIBLE.

SO WHY IS IT CONDITIONAL? I'M SORRY. IS IT. YEAH.

SO IT'S A MED AND CRDU. SO THAT'S WHY. OKAY. THIS CONDITIONAL USE DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ANIKA PERRY AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO STRONGLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY CONNECTED TO MY CHURCH, LEE CHAPEL AME CHURCH, ESTABLISHED IN 1926.

THIS CHURCH IS NOT ANOTHER, JUST ANOTHER BUILDING TO ME.

IT HAS BEEN MY CHURCH HOME SINCE I WAS A CHILD AND I'M NOW 39 YEARS OLD.

FOR DECADES, THIS CHURCH HAS BEEN A CONSTANT SOURCE OF FAITH, COMMUNITY, SUPPORT, AND STABILITY IN MY LIFE AND THE LIVES OF MANY OTHERS.

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I AM ALSO A VETERAN, AND EVEN WHILE SERVING AWAY FROM HOME, I WOULD TRAVEL BACK FROM MY MILITARY BASE WHENEVER I COULD JUST TO FELLOWSHIP AT THIS CHURCH. THAT IS HOW MEANINGFUL THIS PLACE HAS BEEN TO ME AND TO COUNTLESS FAMILIES IN THIS COMMUNITY.

THIS CHURCH IS PART OF PEOPLE'S HISTORY, IDENTITY, AND SUPPORT SYSTEM.

I ASK THAT YOU LOOK BEYOND THIS PROPOSAL AS SIMPLY ANOTHER HOUSING PROJECT, AND INSTEAD EVALUATE THE BROADER IMPACT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON AN ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY, INSTITUTION AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.

LOGISTICALLY, THIS DEVELOPMENT SIMPLY DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR THIS LOCATION.

THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL IN NATURE.

THERE IS A BUSINESS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND STORAGE UNITS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET.

THIS IS ALSO A DEAD END STREET WHICH ALREADY LIMITS TRAFFIC FLOW AND ACCESSIBILITY.

ADDING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY CREATES CONCERNS NOT ONLY ABOUT COMPATIBILITY BUT ALSO TRAFFIC SAFETY, CONGESTION AND LONG TERM QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS AND THE EXISTING COMMUNITY.

THIS CHURCH SERVES AS A TRUE COMMUNITY ANCHOR.

IT PROVIDES NOT ONLY WORSHIP SERVICES, BUT FELLOWSHIP, OUTREACH, MENTORSHIP, SUPPORT DURING DIFFICULT TIMES, AND A PLACE WHERE GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES HAVE GATHERED TOGETHER.

APPROVING A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS SPACE RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON A DEAD END, STREET PARKING OVERFLOW INTO SURROUNDING AREAS, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, INCREASED STRAIN ON INFRASTRUCTURE, INCOMPATIBLE INCOMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, AND DISRUPTION TO THE EXISTING CHARACTER AND FUNCTION OF THE CHURCH PROPERTY.

MANY ELDERLY MEMBERS, FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, AND INDIVIDUALS WITH MOBILITY LIMITATIONS RELY HEAVILY ON SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE ACCESS TO THE CHURCH. ANY REDUCTION IN FUNCTIONALITY OR ACCESSIBILITY CREATES A DIRECT HARDSHIP FOR THE CONGREGATION AND THE COMMUNITY THAT IS CHURCH SERVES.

I ALSO ASK THAT THE COMMISSION. I ALSO ASK THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE PRECEDENTS THIS APPROVAL WOULD SET.

ONCE LAND CONNECTED TO LONG STANDING COMMUNITY INSTITUTIONS IS LOST TO OVERDEVELOPMENT, IT IS RARELY RECOVERED.

GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THEY SHOULD NOT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF PLACES THAT HAVE FAITHFULLY SERVED COMMUNITIES FOR GENERATIONS.

RESPONSIBLE PLANNING IS NOT ONLY ABOUT ADDING DENSITY, IT IS ALSO ABOUT PRESERVING THE INSTITUTIONS AND SPACE THAT HELP KEEP COMMUNITIES CONNECTED, SUPPORTED AND STABLE. I RESPECTFULLY URGE THIS COMMISSION TO DENY THIS PROPOSAL AND PROTECT THE LONG TERM INTERESTS OF THE CHURCH, ITS MEMBERS AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. PLEASE SIGN IN. GREAT. THANK YOU. WHAT DO YOU WHAT ELSE LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES I WOULD. MY NAME IS OUR FATHER CARTER. THAT CHURCH.

YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE, SIR. MY NAME IS CARTER.

I ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY AND ALL YOUR ADDRESS WHERE YOU LIVE.

I LIVE IN LOS POCO. OKAY. BUT I WAS A MEMBER OF THAT CHURCH.

I MOVED TO OAKLAND. BUT MY FOREFATHERS, MY UNCLES, MY GREAT UNCLES, MY GREAT GRANDDADDY, THEY BUILT THAT CHURCH WITH THEIR HAND.

AND THEN WHEN MR. HILL MOVED, WE WERE OFFERED THAT MONEY, THAT LAND.

BUT YET IT'S STILL WITH THE MEMBERS WE HAVE. WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO PAY FOR IT, BUT YET IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, HERE Y'ALL IS GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING OVER THERE.

DO YOU KNOW HOW Y'ALL MADE IT TO WHAT YOU CALL THE LENGTH OF THAT THAT THAT THAT THAT BUILDING ALL LOEWENSTEIN RIGHT THERE AT THAT, AT THAT TELEGRAM PROGRAM. THAT'S THE END OF THAT LINE.

NOW, HOW CAN YOU GET IN THERE AND YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY OUR PARKING SPACE AND ALL LIKE THAT JUST TO, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD SOMETHING OVER THERE, IT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE, BUT YET IT STILL I KNOW COMMUNITY.

AND THEN PROGRESS GOT TO GO ON RIGHT. BUT YET IT STILL CONSIDER THAT CHURCH AS A LONG STANDING CHURCH.

AND YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU BUILD SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU AIN'T GOT NO FENCE TO GO THERE.

YOU NEVER TELL WHO GOING TO MOVE OVER THERE. AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING BE THROWN EVERYWHERE OVER THAT WAY.

THAT'S A CHURCH. THAT'S A SACRED GROUND. CONSIDER THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. PLEASE, PLEASE SIGN IT.

WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD? GOOD AFTERNOON.

COMMISSIONER. MY NAME IS DWAYNE CARTER. I'M A MEMBER.

LEE'S CHAPEL. I'VE BEEN THERE ALMOST 75 YEARS.

I'M 76 YEARS OLD NOW. WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? 969 PLEASANT AVENUE, AUBURN, ALABAMA.

THANK YOU. BUT I'VE BEEN AT THAT CHURCH MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND WITH Y'ALL PUTTING THIS HOUSE THERE,

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WE ARE GOING TO BE THE STUDENTS OR WHOEVER MOVE OVER THERE.

I WAS GOING TO POSSIBLY BE MESSED UP ON WEEKENDS WHEN THEY HAVE FOOTBALL GAMES.

WE GOING TO HAVE TO CLEAN UP BEFORE WE CAN HAVE SERVICE.

IF WE HAVE SERVICE ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT, WE CAN'T GET IN THERE AND YOU GOT A ONE WAY STREET, NO PARKING. THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO THAT IS THE CHURCH PARKING LOT, THE CHURCH DRIVEWAY.

THERE'S NO OTHER DRIVEWAY THERE. IT WAS A CHAIR WITH THE OTHER FAMILY THAT WAS LIVING THERE.

WE SHARED IT WITH THEM. BUT IF YOU COME IN AND PUT ANOTHER HOUSE IN THERE NOW AND THEY GOT TO GO IN THERE, YOU GOING TO TRY TO USE OUR PROPERTY TO GO IN THERE? AND THEN IF THIS TORE UP, WHO'S GOING TO FIX THIS PROPERTY? ARE YOU GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT WE CAN'T GO OUT ON SUNDAY MORNING AND HAVE A YARD FULL OF BEER CANS? ARE YOU GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT? ARE YOU GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WON'T BE TEARING UP OUR CHURCH PROPERTY? THERE'S NO WAY YOU SHOULD PUT A HOUSING UNIT DOWN.

I'M ASKING YOU TO GUARANTEE THAT THE OTHER LADY DID.

PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS ZONING RULE BECAUSE WE CANNOT LIVE LIKE THIS.

THROWING UP OUR HOUSE. EVERY LITTLE HOLE YOU GOT INTO.

AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CITY OF AUBURN DOING NOW ON THE BLACK AREA EVERYWHERE.

YOU GOT A LITTLE HOME IN THERE, LITTLE APARTMENT TAKING UP SPACE THAT THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO PARK BUT ON THE STREET.

AND THEN YOU GOT TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC JAMS. AND WITH THIS ONE WAY STREET, EVEN IF YOU CUT ANOTHER STREET THROUGH THIS THING, YOU STILL GOT A ONE WAY STREET WITH NO WAY OUT AND NO WAY IN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD? I'LL SAY GOOD EVENING TO THE COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING.

I'M THE PASTOR OF LEE CHAPEL. AFRICAN METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH IS IN THE NINTH DISTRICT STATE OF ALABAMA. OUR BISHOP IS JULIUS A MCALLISTER. I WANT TO THANK.

AND YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR. MY NAME IS JAMES PARKER.

REVEREND JAMES PARKER. MY ADDRESS? I LIVE IN PHOENIX CITY.

I WAS ASSIGNED TO THE CHURCH. I'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT THREE YEARS, AND EVERYTHING THAT THE MEMBERS ARE SAYING IS TRUE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.

THE CHURCH WAS ESTABLISHED A WHILE AGO AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS GROWTH.

THIS WAS SORT OF DROPPED ON US. NO DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPER OR EVEN THE LAND OWNER, THE PERSON THAT OWNED THE LAND.

WE WERE LOOKING AT GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE LOOKING AT, AT, AT, AT TRYING TO ASSIST AUBURN IN THEIR GROWTH IN, IN, IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE A MINORITY IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY WHERE, WHERE WE CAN BE IN TOUCH AND HELP EVERYBODY GROW TOGETHER.

BEING RELATIVELY NEW HERE IN AUBURN AND WHAT THE MEMBERS ARE SAYING, SINCE THEY ARE RESIDENTS OF AUBURN, WE, WE HAD IDEAS OF GROWTH ARE. THE HOUSE THAT WAS THERE WAS CONDEMNED, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT HAD BEEN THERE.

THE THREE YEARS I WAS THERE. I CAME TO CHURCH ONE SUNDAY AND BUZZERS WAS AROUND THE HOUSE.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE PROPERTY IS AN ASSET TO US, WHERE WE CAN DEVELOP IT, AS WELL AS THOSE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE TRYING TO PUT THE MULTI UNIT THERE. IT'S A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES AS A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HELP AUBURN GROW AND DEVELOP. THE SPACE THAT, THAT I'M LOOKING AT OR THE AREA, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY UNITS THEY INTEND TO PUT THERE, BUT IT WON'T BE TOO MANY.

AND THEN THE ASSETS OF PARKING, AS HE WAS SAYING THE ONLY WAY THAT THE ONLY PARKING THAT THEY MAY HAVE IS ON THE STREET REALLY AS FAR AS NOW, I MEAN, UNLESS THEY BUY THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR OR WHATEVER THEIR INTENTIONS ARE.

AND WE JUST HAVE A REJECTION TO THE WHOLE PROJECT.

BECAUSE OF THE, OF THE, THE CHURCH, THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH.

AND WE FEEL THAT WE CAN, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP AUBURN PROGRESS IN A WAY TO WHERE EVERYBODY CAN,

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CAN, CAN COME TOGETHER AND GET THIS RESOLVED.

AND IF NOT, BE HONEST WITH YOU THEY CAN DONATE THE PROCESS.

THEY CAN DONATE THE PROPERTY TO THE CHURCH AS AN ACT OF, AS AN ACT OF GOODNESS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AMEN. SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE COMING TOGETHER TO ASK THAT THE COUNCIL OR THE, THE PLANNING COMMITTEE OR AUBURN RECONSIDER WHAT'S ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE OR WE CAN EITHER COME TO A NEGOTIATION ABOUT THE PROPERTY IN SUCH A WAY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? BRETT BASQUIN WITH THE FORESIGHT GROUP REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. SO THE PROPOSED USE IS THREE UNITS.

IT'S THREE THREE BEDROOM UNITS. SO TRAFFIC IS PRETTY MUCH NEGLIGIBLE.

THE DEVELOPMENT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE, ON THE SIDE HAS BEEN SURVEYED.

THAT'S OUR DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, THAT'S OUR PROPERTY.

WE'RE ACCESSING THE PROPERTY THROUGH OUR PROPERTY.

OUR PARKING IS ON OUR SITE. WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PARK IN THE STREET.

WE'RE ACTUALLY OVER PARKED BY ONE SPACE FOR VISITORS.

SO WE'RE OVER PARKED ON THAT SIDE. IN REGARDS TO THE THE, THE, THE THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE CONDITIONAL USE IF WASHINGTON STREET WAS CONNECTED THROUGH THAT WOULD COME THROUGH ON OUR NORTHERN BOUNDARY THERE.

AND SO OUR DRIVE WOULD JUST TURN ON TO THEIR DRIVE.

SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE THERE, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THOSE THOSE ITEMS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. AT THIS TIME I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU ALL. COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO. CAN WE LOOK AT A PLAT WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDINGS AROUND THIS? OH, THERE'S AT LEAST. THERE YOU GO. THAT'LL WORK.

SO CAN SOMEBODY SHOW ME WHICH THE CHURCH IS THE ONE? WHAT'S THE OKAY. YEAH. SO THE CHURCH IS THE ONE TO THE TO THE IMMEDIATE SOUTH.

LIKE IT'S THE SECOND ONE OFF THE ROAD ON THE LEFT SIDE OF TEMPLE STREET. UNDERSTAND? BUT AROUND THAT, BEYOND THE CHURCH. WHAT KIND OF I KNOW THERE'S STORAGE ON THE RIGHT, WHICH IS ALL COMMERCIAL.

WHAT'S ON THE CORNER IS THAT THAT'S A COMMERCIAL LITTLE STRIP MALL, RIGHT? YEP. OH, AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF SMALL HOUSES ON THE OPELIKA ROAD.

IS THAT A PRIVATE HOME UP THERE TO THE LEFT BEHIND THE LOT IN QUESTION.

YEAH, YEAH YEAH YEAH, YEAH. SO THOSE ARE BUSINESSES AND I ASKED THAT.

SO KIND OF AT THE VERY END OF THE CUL DE SAC, JUST KIND OF WHAT IT IS, I WAS IN A DEAD END STREET.

IT'S A LAWN SERVICE COMPANY AND THEY GOT LIKE A VERY BIG LAYDOWN AREA THAT EXTENDS REALLY FAR TO THE BACK OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN THERE'S JUST AN ACTIVE BUSINESS IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THIS, I GUESS, KIND OF FROM THE MIXED USE STUFF, JUST KIND OF AROUND CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT. SO MIXED USES VERTICAL, HORIZONTAL KIND OF IN NATURE.

SO LIKE I SAID, THOSE USES KIND OF BE IN COMMERCIAL, SOME OF THOSE REALLY AND REALLY KIND OF WITH A FOCUS ON IT BEING URBAN, REALLY KIND OF LOOKING A LOT MORE THE SUBURBAN ROAD SERVICES USES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DEAN ROAD THIS AND KIND OF ADDING HOUSES AROUND THIS AREA.

LIKE I SAID, NOT REALLY OUT OF THE QUESTION, JUST KIND OF FROM CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT, URBAN.

I WILL SAY JUST KIND OF ALL OF THE USES OVER HERE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL USES ARE ALL CONDITIONAL VERSUS A PLACE LIKE CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT WEST WHERE THEY'RE VIRTUALLY ALL PERMITTED. BUT IT'S REALLY JUST KIND OF IT MEETING THE CONDITIONS.

AND LIKE I SAID, KIND OF, I THINK THE THINGS THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE TONIGHT MENTIONED JUST KIND OF ABOUT BUFFER YARDS, FENCES, THOSE THINGS, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PURVIEW. IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO ADD ANY EXTRA CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND I'M SURE WE COULD PROBABLY GET THE APPLICANT TO COMPLY WITH THAT THROUGH DRT. SO, SO SPEAKING OF THAT WAS MY QUESTION WAS BUFFER YARD AND FENCING.

WHAT IS THE SO THE GREATEST I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE GREATEST IN THE CITY BECAUSE THE GREATEST, THE GREATEST ONE IN THE CITY IS THE ONE DOWN IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK OVER THERE OFF BEEHIVE. ODDLY ENOUGH, LIKE THE GREAT GREAT WALL OF AUBURN OF LIKE THIS 12 FOOT FENCE AND IT'S LIKE 70FT.

IT'S MASSIVE. YEAH. SO I MEAN, YOU COULD PROBABLY GET LIKE 20.

I WANT TO SAY, I THINK THE GREATEST IS PROBABLY 20FT.

AND THEN WE COULD PROBABLY PUT LIKE A TYPE TWO FENCE, TYPE THREE FENCE. AND SO THAT'S A PRETTY BIG SIX FOOT OPAQUE WOOD FENCE WHERE THEY,

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THEY REALLY WOULDN'T SEE I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS JUST KIND OF KNOWING THE DEVELOPER, I MEAN, WE PROBABLY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM JUST KIND OF ABOUT THE TENANTS REALLY KIND OF MAKING, STAYING ON THEM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRASH PICKUP AND THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT ON, ON THE CHURCH'S PROPERTY.

BUT YEAH, I MEAN, YOU GUYS WOULD TOTALLY, TOTALLY BE WITHIN YOUR BOUNDS TO MAKE THE CONDITION OF, YOU KNOW, GREATEST BUFFER YARD, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ALSO KIND OF TYPE TWO EVENTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT AS WELL ON THEIR SOUTH BOUNDARY.

QUESTION IS CRDU5 UNRELATED? YEAH, I WANT TO SAY IT IS.

YEAH, YEAH IT IS. YEAH, ALL THE KIDS ARE OKAY.

YEAH, EXCEPT FOR CRD WEST. WEST OF DONAHUE. IS CRDU ZONED FOR FIVE? UNRELATED? OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ZONING HAS TO DO WITH COMPATIBLE USES BEING NEXT TO EACH OTHER SORT OF THING.

AND THIS SEEMS TO BE PRETTY MUCH ALL COMMERCIAL.

AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT A RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY UNIT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THAT.

I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU IF THIS WAS NOT CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT.

AND SO REDEVELOPMENT DOES KIND OF HAVE THAT WEIRD TIME TIMING THING WITH IT.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE PARCELS THAT AND I JUST KIND OF THIS IS KIND OF THE THEME ACROSS OUR ENTIRE, ALL OF OUR CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT PLACES WHERE WHAT WE, WHAT THE, WHAT THE ZONING DISTRICTS CONTEMPLATED AND REALLY KIND OF WAS THE NORTH STAR WAS ASSEMBLAGE THAT SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES WOULD, IF THEY DECIDED TO SUNSET THAT THEY COULD THEN THEN BE ASSEMBLED AS A WHOLE, AND THEN ALL AND THEN SWEEPING PARTS OF IT, THEN COULD REDEVELOPMENT, BUT COULD REDEVELOP.

BUT THEN IF YOU JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PIECEMEAL REDEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE'S ONE PROPERTY WHERE IT HAPPENS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEBODY DOESN'T OWN ALL OF IT, THEN IT DOES LOOK LIKE, WELL, THIS DOESN'T REALLY MAKE ANY SENSE, BUT IT'S THE NEWEST THING. SO THAT THAT DOES TEND TO KIND OF HAPPEN IN REDEVELOPMENT.

LIKE I SAID, THE CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT DOES CONTEMPLATE AND DOES SUPPORT A MIX OF USES HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL.

SO IT'S NOT ALL, IT DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO BE ONE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE'S GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL ABOVE, THERE CAN BE COMMERCIAL IN PLACES AND THEN RESIDENTIAL IN OTHER AREAS.

AS I SAID, I THINK CRDU URBAN. LIKE I SAID, THAT'S THE REALLY KIND OF LIMITING ROAD SURFACE USES.

AND I THINK ALSO FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE THERE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED OR ALLOWED THERE NOW.

AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE. I SAID, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CHURCH, EVERYTHING ELSE PROBABLY ON THAT STREET, WE'D PROBABLY. WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND SO REALLY KIND OF THE THING THAT WOULD FIT WOULD BE THE RESIDENTIAL IN THE CHURCH. AND SO IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE I SAID, THAT'S, I MEAN, REALLY KIND OF THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR KIND OF GOING DOWN. I MEAN, YOU GOT TIRE SERVICES, THINGS DOWN THERE, CAR SHOPS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE LIKE THAT IN THOSE REDEVELOPMENT AREAS BECAUSE THAT'S THIS IS THE FIRST AND A SMALL SCALE REDEVELOPMENT.

SO. AND ARE THERE OTHER OTHER RESIDENCES IN THAT AREA? THE ONLY THING THAT I SAW WAS THE ONE HOUSE ON THE.

NO, THIS THIS IS THE ONLY ONE. AND SO THOSE SO THOSE TWO SMALL ONES KIND OF FRONTING UP LIKE A ROAD, LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY LIKE, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, UNTIL THERE WAS A BIGGER SWATH OF REDEVELOPMENT, THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN. I MEAN, WE KIND OF HAVE THIS SIMILAR THING HAPPEN ON GLEN, LIKE EAST GLEN KIND OF IN BETWEEN ROSS AND DEAN, WHERE YOU GOT A LOT OF THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES TURNED INTO TOWNHOMES, BUT THEN YOU GOT SOME OF THOSE OTHER PLACES OVER THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALSO LOOKING AT TURNING INTO RESIDENTIAL AND SOME DIFFERENT AREAS. AND SO SOME PLACES IT'S A LITTLE MORE NOTICEABLE.

BUT I THINK ON THIS ONE, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE CASES WHERE THIS WAS THE ONLY HOUSE ON THAT STREET.

IT KIND OF DEVELOPED IN SOME, YOU KNOW, KIND OF QUASI INDUSTRIAL, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL AREA.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THE CORRIDOR REDEVELOPMENT DOES SUPPORT THE MIX OF USES, KIND OF LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. LIKE I SAID, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH YOU GUYS CONDITIONING TYPE TWO OR TYPE THREE FENCE EVEN.

AND THEN GOING UP TO THE GREATEST BUFFER YARD POSSIBLE. I THINK THAT'D BE SOMETHING FROM A GEOMETRY STANDPOINT THAT WE'D HAVE TO WORK THROUGH ON THE DR. SIDE. OKAY. THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS IN RELATION TO TEMPLE STREET, IT'S VERY, VERY NARROW.

IS THE PLAN THEN TO CLOSE THAT STREET OFF COMPLETELY WIDEN IT.

NO, NO NO NO NO. SO, SO, SO I GUESS KIND OF THE RENEWABLE LIKE ROAD PLAN.

AND I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, BUT I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO PUT IT ON, ON THE ACTUAL MAP.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE NEW OPELIKA ROAD PLAN DOES CONTEMPLATE IS ADDING A BUNCH OF BACK AND SIDE STREETS IN A LOT OF THESE AREAS, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU GOT A, YOU HAVE A LOT OF REALLY DEEP PARCELS.

AND IT'S NOT REALLY THE CASE ON THIS SIDE OF OPELIKA ROAD. BUT WHEN YOU GET FURTHER DOWN KIND OF WHERE COUNTRIES IS, WHERE THE BANK, KING HONDA AND ALL THOSE THINGS, THOSE THOSE PARCELS ARE LIKE 4 TO 500FT DEEP. AND SO GETTING EAST AND WEST STREETS TO KIND OF BREAK THOSE UP, TO ADD SOME CONNECTIVITY. AND SO THIS IS THE FURTHEST EAST PORTION OF THE ROAD PLAN.

AND IT CONTEMPLATED ADDING STREET CONNECTIVITY FROM THE LINCOLN STREET AREA OVER TO TEMPLE COURT.

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SO IT JUST WOULD ADD MORE CONNECTIVITY. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT NOT SOMETHING WHERE THE CITY IS KNOCKING ON DOORS, KIND OF MAKING THIS HAPPEN, CONDEMNING ANY LAND OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST KIND OF AS REDEVELOPMENT HAPPENS. RIGHT? AND SO IT'S JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NEVER HAPPEN IF THAT PROPERTY OWNER DECIDES THEY DON'T EVER WANT TO REDEVELOP OR COULD HAPPEN LIKE NEXT.

IT'S JUST KIND OF, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WITH KIND OF REDEVELOPMENT. AND SO THE OPELIKA ROAD PLAN WAS ADOPTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WERE INSTEAD OF BISECTING THE PROPERTY, IT.

IT MADE A LOT MORE SENSE TO JUST KIND OF ALLOW IT TO TRAVEL FROM THE EXISTING BEING AN EXTENSION OF EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY ALONG PROPERTY LINES.

OKAY. I'M CLEAR. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONERS.

QUESTIONS. MOTIONS. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE KQ 2026-020. WITH CONDITIONS RELATIVE TO ACCESS ON TEMPLE STREET.

NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO WITH THE GREATEST BUFFER YARD POSSIBLE IN TYPE 2 OR 3 FENCING.

I HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE NO SECOND. I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR APPROVAL WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.

QUESTION. WHAT IS. SO TELL ME ABOUT TYPE TWO AND THREE FENCING.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YEAH. SO THE REAL DIFFERENCE IS KIND OF BETWEEN TYPE TWO TYPE TWO AND TYPE THREE.

ONE HAS BRICK PILASTERS IN IT. AND SO BUT BOTH THEY'RE BOTH SIX FEET TALL.

WOOD FENCES GOT TO BE DECORATIVE WOOD. AND SO I MEAN THEY ARE SUBSTANTIAL FENCES.

THEY ARE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CLIMB OVER IT. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT. WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE FENCE LOCATION TO BE ON THE PLANS.

AND SO TYPE 2 OR 3, LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN BETWEEN TYPE 2 OR 3 IS THEIR BRICK PILASTERS ON, ON KIND OF THE COLUMNS, BUT IT IS A NICE SIZE FACE TO CHURCH.

YEAH. WE CAN, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN DO THAT. AND WHAT IS THE GREATEST BUFFER YARD IMPLY? I WANT TO SAY IT'S 2020. IT'S 20 OR 25FT. IF KATIE WERE HERE, KATIE WOULD TEXT ME AND TELL ME IT'S 25 OR SOMETHING.

SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OF ACCESS OFF TEMPLE.

OH, WELL, I GUESS KIND OF QUESTION. SO BUFFER YARD, I GUESS PROBABLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

YEAH, YEAH, ON THE CHURCH SIDE. ALL RIGHT. ON THE CHURCH SIDE. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS FOR ENTRY AND EXIT OFF OF TEMPLE.

2 OR 3 FENCE LEVEL 2 OR 3 FENCE AND. MAXIMUM BUFFER YARD ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

OKAY. ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. NANETTE. REESE.

YES. BILL. CHANCELLOR. YES. JENNIFER. LOVRE. YES.

VANESSA. ECHOLS. NO. JOSEPH. ASTRUP. YES. JENNIFER.

STEPHENS. YES. OSCAR. MOSLEY. YES. WALKER. DAVIS.

YES. THANK YOU ALL. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONTRACTOR BUILDINGS. FALLS FOR JUST A SECOND.

SO I CAN HEAR YOU.

VICTIM OF THE GROWTH OVER TIME. YEAH.

I SUSPECT THAT WAS ALL. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CONTRACTOR BUILDINGS. 1009 COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE.

[8. Conditional Use – Contractor Buildings – PUBLIC HEARING ]

SO THIS IS FOR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONDITIONAL USE. APPROVAL FOR COMMERCIAL SUPPORT. USE CONTRACTOR STORAGE.

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS ZONE CRDSA LOT FURTHER DOWN, ALMOST CLOSER TO CLOSER TO THE EDGE OF THE CITY LIMITS, WHICH IS JUST PAST DUKE'S CIRCLE THERE. SO LIKE I SAID, WE'VE SEEN THESE IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE HAD VARYING ITERATIONS OF THEM.

SO SOME FOLKS LOOK TO DO MINI STORAGE. SOME FOLKS DO WE HAVE THE RV STORAGE DOWN THERE ON WEST VETERANS.

AND THEN NOW THIS IS CONTRACTOR STORAGE, SO CONTRACTOR STORAGE FOR EVERYBODY.

AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE THE ONES OFF OF BANK CREEK WHERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORKSHOPS FOR FOLKS, PLUMBERS, HVAC GUYS WHERE THEY GOT A WORK TRUCK.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PLACE FOR THEM TO EITHER KIND OF RUN THEIR OFFICE STUFF OUT OF, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY DOING ANY WORK ON LIKE VEHICLES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THIS IS REALLY JUST KIND OF CONTRACTOR WORK, WORK STORAGE AREA.

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LIKE I SAID, WE'RE REALLY KIND OF WHERE THEY STORE THEIR WORK TRUCK. SO THE BIGGEST CONDITIONS WITH THIS ONE, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE SITE PLAN. ALL RIGHT.

SO LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE MEETING ON MONDAY, THIS IS A VERY OLD AREA.

THE OPELIKA ROAD USED TO BE THE ATLANTA TO MONTGOMERY HIGHWAY AND THIS WAS PLATTED, I THINK BACK IN THE 20S OR THE 40S WHERE THERE WERE 16 INDIVIDUAL LOTS THAT NEED TO BE CONSOLIDATED BEFORE THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD.

SO I WOULD NEED TO BE DONE. THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU ALL AS A PRELIMINARY AND FINAL THAT, THAT, THAT WILL NEED TO BE DONE BEFORE THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. I THINK WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT JUST KIND OF SOME PARKING LOT SCREENING THAT THEY'LL ALSO NEED TO COMPLY WITH. AND THEN NORMALLY DRIVEWAY SPACING IS AN ISSUE THAT WOULD PREVENT THIS, BUT DUE TO THE ROAD CLASSIFICATION OF THIS, THAT IS NOT A CONCERN ON COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE WITH THIS BEING A DEAD END STREET.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ROAD CLASSIFICATION.

AND THEN LET ME WANTED TO GET TO. YEAH. SO 15 UNIT COMMERCIAL RENTAL BUILDING.

SO LIKE I SAID, JUST WHERE GUYS WITH WORK TRUCKS WILL WORK OUT OF, LIKE I SAID, FROM AN EITHER AN OFFICE USE STANDPOINT, BUT WON'T REALLY BE SOMETHING WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE ANY OUTDOOR, YOU KNOW, CAR, AUTOMOTIVE, HEAVY, INTENSE THINGS LIKE THAT. REALLY JUST FOR GUYS WITH WORK TRUCKS TO KIND OF STORE THEIR VEHICLE, HAVE AN OFFICE, HAVE THEIR OFFICE OUT OF OR STORE THEIR TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT, PRETTY MUCH KIND OF WHERE THEY START THE DAY, END THE DAY. IDEALLY, THIS WOULD BE ALL COVERED AND CLOSED.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT. AND SO THE APPLICANT, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT, I KNOW THE PROPERTY OWNER, HE HAS ADDITIONAL RULES THAT HE LIKES TO ENFORCE AT THESE TYPE OF BUSINESSES.

HE HAS OTHERS AND HE IS EXPANDING THIS, BUT HE HAS A VERY STRICT RULES ON USES, VERY STRICT RULES ON HOURS OF OPERATION, VERY STRICT RULES ON WHAT TYPES OF ACTIVITIES CAN GO ON AS WELL.

AND THEN ALSO THE OTHER CONDITION IS THAT THERE CAN NO, THERE CANNOT BE ANY RESIDENTIAL INHABITATION OF THESE UNITS.

THERE WAS ANOTHER CONDITION THAT WE'VE MADE OF OTHER CONTRACTOR STORE PLACES AND OTHER RV STORAGE PLACES AS WELL, THAT THESE CANNOT BE USED FOR FULL TIME RESIDENCES.

HAS THAT BEEN SOME KIND OF PROBLEM OR ISSUE BEFORE THAT? THAT NEEDS TO BE STATED? I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO ALARM ANYBODY.

SO NO, BUT IT IS IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP IN OTHER PLACES WHERE WHERE FOLKS DO DO LIVE IN THINGS LIKE THIS.

I'M SURE FOLKS HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, VIRAL VIDEOS OF OR TIKTOKS OF THINGS, OF PEOPLE LIVING IN STORAGE UNITS, PEOPLE LIVING LIKE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIVE IN ALL SORTS OF PLACES.

AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STAYED AS CONDITIONED.

BUT ALSO, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE VERY INVESTED IN MAKING SURE IT'S NOT THE CASE. RIGHT. GREAT QUESTION.

JUST CURIOUS. AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS ALSO AND IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS ARE TRYING TO DECEIVE US. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GET AN RV STORAGE AND THEY'LL HAVE AN RV RENTAL THERE.

AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, LIKE I'M HERE. I WAS PARTYING ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS LATER, THEY JUST LIVE THERE. SO LIKE, LIKE THAT, THAT HAS HAPPENED IN SITUATIONS. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO STATE UP FRONT BECAUSE I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS, THEY ARE BIG ENOUGH UNITS, THEY HAVE BATHROOMS. AND SO FOR SOME PEOPLE, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ENOUGH FOR THEM TO KIND OF GET BY.

IF ALL I NEED IS A BATHROOM, LOOK AT THIS SPACE.

AND SO BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A CONDITION THAT WE ENFORCE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THIS DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW.

SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONERS. MOVE TO APPROVE CU2026022. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND FOR 24

[9. Conditional Use – 424 Harris Avenue Townhomes – PUBLIC HEARING ]

HARRIS AVENUE TOWNHOMES. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS FOR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL FOR A PERFORMANCE RESIDENTIAL USE.

THESE ARE TOWNHOMES AT THE CONFLUENCE OF HARRIS AVENUE, MADDOX STREET IN SPRING STREET.

AND SO THIS IS ZONED RDD. AND SO THIS THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY KIND OF WENT THROUGH A BIT OF A METAMORPHOSIS THAT CAME IN WANTING TO DO ONE THING.

DUPLEXES. THEY HAD A BUNCH OF VARIANCES THEY WERE GOING TO ASK FOR.

AND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, IT WAS LIKE, WELL, YOU REALLY COULD JUST DO TOWNHOMES.

AND SO IT'S REALLY JUST KIND OF A PRODUCT OF TOWNHOMES ARE REALLY THE ONLY HOUSING TYPE THAT HAS THE URBAN HAS AN URBAN LOT MINIMUM WITH 1800FT². SO THE MINIMUM HERE IS 5400FT² THAT YOU NEED TO REALLY WORK WITH TO GET THREE TOWNHOMES IN.

AND SO THE LOT SIZES ARE BIG ENOUGH. AND I GUESS KIND OF THE OTHER PART ABOUT TOWNHOMES, TOWNHOMES REQUIRE PARKING BE ON THE LOT.

SO YOU CAN GO TO THE SITE PLAN. SO THEN THAT BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER POINT.

SO I KNOW YOU GUYS MENTIONED IS IT OKAY FOR THEM TO HAVE PEOPLE BACKING OUT ONTO THE STREET ONCE AGAIN,

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DUE TO THE ROAD CLASSIFICATION, IT IS A LOW ENOUGH INTENSITY THAT THEN BACKING OUT ONTO THE STREET IS NOT OF A CONCERN.

SO TOWNHOMES, AS YOU GUYS SEE, THERE'S LOT ONE, LOT TWO, LOT THREE.

AND THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF THOSE RARE AREAS IN TOWN WHERE THEY DON'T REALLY RUN INTO A HIGHER INTENSITY ROAD WHERE THIS DOES WORK.

THE CONFIGURATION, THIS DOES MEET THE DEFINITION OF TOWNHOME.

THERE'S A STIPULATION AND CONDITION THAT THEY WILL NEED TO DEDICATE RIGHT AWAY ON, I GUESS THE UPPER LEFT PORTION KIND OF WHERE THAT CURVE IS ON THE LEFT SIDE.

IF WE DON'T HAVE IT ON THE AERIAL, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT ON THIS ONE, BUT THEY WILL NEED TO DEDICATE RIGHT AWAY.

PART OF THEIR PART OF THE ROAD IS ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND SO THOSE NEED TO BE DEDICATED AT SOME POINT TO KIND OF CLEAN THIS UP.

BUT THAT WILL NOT AFFECT THE LOT. MINIMUM OF LOT ONE.

IT IS PLENTY BIG ENOUGH AT 2900FT², HAS 1100FT² TO SPARE.

BUT, BUT YEAH, SO THEY ALL THE PARKING WILL BE ON SITE LIKE IT'S REQUIRED FROM THE TOWNHOME MEETS THE DEFINITION OF TOWNHOME.

AND LIKE I SAID, DUE TO THE 1800 SQUARE FOOT LOT MINIMUM, THE 5400 SQUARE FOOT LOT MINIMUM FOR THESE THREE UNITS MAKES THIS SUFFICIENT AND WAS A COMPROMISE THAT WE WORKED THROUGH WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEY WORKED THROUGH WITH STAFF. SO AND AS BEFORE, YOU. AND THEN AS ALSO THE DENSITY OF RTD. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SNEAKS UP ON PEOPLE.

16 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE. FIVE UNRELATED, OUR DD IS DENSE.

IT'S A LOT, A LOT HAPPENING, AND A LOT OF THINGS ARE ALLOWED OVER THERE A LOT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS CONDITIONAL USE DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'D LIKE TO OPEN THAT AT THIS TIME. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO US ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM. SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE CASE CU2026023 HARRIS TOWNHOMES.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

[10. Waiver – Silos at Conway Bond Extension – PUBLIC HEARING]

THIS IS A WAIVER REQUEST TO THE SUB REGS. AND THIS IS TO A REQUEST OF BOND EXTENSION.

THIS IS SILOS AT CONWAY THE SUBDIVISION OF WIRE ROAD.

THEY THE SUB REGS CURRENTLY GIVE YOU FOUR YEARS TO COMPLETE THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT TIME RUNS OUT FOR THEM ON JUNE 22ND. Y'ALL HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE REQUESTS IN THE PAST.

WE SEE LESS OF THEM NOW BECAUSE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE Y'ALL AMENDED THE SUB REGS TO EXTEND THAT TWO YEAR TIME FRAME TO FOUR YEARS. SO WE KIND OF QUIT GETTING THESE, BUT THIS ONE HAS BEEN GOING ON LONG ENOUGH WHERE THEY ARE APPROACHING THAT FOUR YEAR LIMIT. THEIR ORIGINAL REQUEST HAD 12 MONTHS IN THERE.

WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S TOO LONG AND AREN'T REALLY IN FAVOR OF THAT, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PRETTY MUCH BUILT OUT AT THIS POINT.

WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANT. THEY HAVE A PUNCH LIST OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE REMAINING TO BE DONE OUT THERE.

WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM TODAY ON THEIR SCHEDULE, AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN BE OUT THERE WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WITHIN TWO WEEKS SPECIFICALLY TO GET STARTED.

SO WE WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING THE BOMB AS LONG AS IT'S NOT TOO LONG.

SO I THINK IN THE STAFF REPORT I RECOMMENDED, IF WE DO EXTEND IT, CONSIDER ONLY GOING UP TO LIKE THREE MONTHS.

90 DAYS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU SAID THIS IS A 100% COMPLETE BUILT OUT, RIGHT? IT IS COMPLETELY BUILT OR JUST ALL PERMITS PULLED.

SO, I MEAN, THERE ARE HOUSES OUT THERE. I MEAN, YEAH, IT IS 100% COMPLETELY BUILT.

YEAH. BOND EXTENSION. PUBLIC HEARING. OH, YEAH.

YEAH. YEAH I KNOW. I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. OKAY. SO THIS DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD ABOUT A BOND EXTENSION AT SILOS AT CONWAY, I'LL OPEN THAT AT THIS TIME.

SEEING NO ONE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

COMMISSIONERS. COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. AT WHAT POINT WAS THE PUNCH LIST ESTABLISHED? IT WAS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO US ISSUING THE PUNCH LIST.

SO WE ISSUED IT WITHIN 24 HOURS. SO BASICALLY TWO WEEKS, WHICH WAS WHEN WHICH WAS DATE, DATE, DATE ISH, PROBABLY ABOUT THE 10TH I BELIEVE, OR SOMETHING EQUIVALENT OF THAT.

BUT IT'S AN ITEM THAT IS KNOWN THAT IF YOU'RE COMPLETE THAT YOU HAVE A DEADLINE.

SO IT'S NOT AN ITEM THAT RELIES ON US. IT'S, ARE YOU READY TO COMMENCE?

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ARE YOU READY TO CLOSE IT OUT? WE CAN PROVIDE THAT PUNCH LIST WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS.

IRREGARDLESS. SO I RODE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE INSPECTION MANAGER, AND WE CAN RESPOND WITHIN 24 HOURS TO ANY REQUEST BY ANY DEVELOPER.

BUT IN MY OPINION, THIS HAS BEEN DONE FOR A WHILE.

AND WE'VE WE'VE GOT STUFF GROWING THROUGH THE CURB AND GUTTERS AND THERE'S PEOPLE LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE HARDSHIP THAT'S INVOLVED HERE? THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMMUNICATED TO ME OTHER THAN AT THIS POINT THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SCHEDULE CONTRACTORS TO BE ON SITE.

SO RELATED TO THAT AND RELATED TO THE PUNCH LIST, HAVE THEY GIVEN A SCHEDULE OF HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE THEM BROKEN DOWN BY IN SOME FASHION? I DO NOT HAVE A LETTER TO MOBILIZE FROM A CONTRACTOR, FROM THE DEVELOPER.

SO WE'RE BEING TOLD VIA EMAIL THAT THEY WOULD BE ON SITE WITHIN A COUPLE WEEKS TO START THE PUNCH LIST.

THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN PAVING IN WITHIN THE EMAIL, THEY SAID UP TO TWO MONTHS BASED ON MOBILIZATION.

OKAY. MEANING IF THEY CAN'T GET ANYBODY TO DO THE WORK, WE'RE GOING TO KICK IT OUT FURTHER.

OKAY. OR REQUEST TO REQUEST. I GUESS MY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE WHERE WE ARE.

HAVING THIS HAPPEN AGAIN IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. I MEAN, HOW DO YOU MAKE KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE? WE EXTENDED THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO FOUR YEARS HE'S BEEN COMPLETED FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, BUT IT'S COMPLETE. WHY ISN'T IT DONE? AND HOW DO YOU WHAT DO WE HAVE? IS THERE A TOOL THAT WE HAVE SOMEHOW THAT CAN KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENING? NEXT TIME? WE THOUGHT THIS TOOL WOULD HELP. YEAH, NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING. RELATED TO THAT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE RECOURSE IS THAT THE CITY COMES IN AND AS WE DISCUSSED MONDAY AND DOES THE WORK, WHICH IS NOT WHAT I THINK THE CITY WANTS TO DO.

CORRECT. IT'S NOT IDEAL. NOT IDEAL. BUT IT IS A CONDITION OF DEVELOPMENT.

THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONS IN THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS THAT PRECLUDE LIKE ANY FUTURE REQUESTS COME BEFORE YOU.

YOU DON'T PROCEED TO THE NEXT STEP OR YOU DON'T GO THROUGH ANY ADDITIONAL PHASING UNTIL THIS HAS BEEN HANDLED OR, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ADDRESSED IT. THE CITY WOULD ACTUALLY CALL UPON THAT AND COMPLETE THE WORK BECAUSE THAT IS A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THAT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IS INCOMPLETE AT THIS TIME. IT IS MISSING A WEARING SURFACE, WHICH IS PRIMARILY MY CONCERN.

RIGHT. AND THE LONGER THAT IT SITS WITHOUT A WEARING SURFACE, THE COST WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP BASED ON THE DETERIORATION OF THE SUBGRADE THAT'S PRESENTLY OUT THERE. SO SHOULD THE CITY HAVE TO TAKE ON THE WORK, THE BOND WOULD BASICALLY REIMBURSE.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. AND THE LONGER YOU GO, THE MORE THE HARDER, THE LONGER YOU GO.

IT COSTS MORE MONEY. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU GOT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BOND THAT'S OUT THERE, AND IF YOU KEEP GOING FARTHER, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE PAYING MORE THAN WHAT THE BOND CAN REIMBURSE YOU FOR.

THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S NOT RIGHT EITHER. ONE POINT I WANT TO MAKE, AND MICHAEL, DAN CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M MISSING ANY OF THIS, BUT AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT PERCENTAGES, BUT CURRENTLY OUR REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS STATE THAT THEY CANNOT PUT THE FINAL WEARING SURFACE DOWN AND PUT THE COMPLETION DOWN TO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE BUILT OUT.

MEANING FOR THAT IS WHILE THEY'RE ACTIVELY DEVELOPING, WE DON'T WANT THEM TEARING UP THE ROAD AND THEN, YOU KNOW, US GET THAT. HOWEVER YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES IN THE PAST AND RECENTLY AND THROUGH DISCUSSION WITH STAFF, WE'VE PROPOSED SOME CHANGES TO WHERE THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY GET A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE DONE, THEY WILL NEED TO FINISH THAT. AND THEN YOU KNOW, THEN THEN THEY'LL HAVE THE ULTIMATE TIME FRAME, IS THAT CORRECT? BUT THAT'S NOT IN PLACE NOW.

THAT'S NOT IN PLACE NOW, BUT IT IS IN OUR PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WE HOPE TO BE BRINGING TO THE COUNCIL WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN FALL BACK ON AND IS ONCE THEY FINISH ALL THIS WORK AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TO MICHAEL'S POINT, YOU KNOW, THE LONGER THEY WAIT, THE MORE WORK THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO BRING THIS UP. IF THERE'S OTHER DAMAGES TO, TO WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, BELOW THE GROUND.

YOU KNOW, THEY STILL GOT A YEAR OF WARRANTY PERIOD ON IT ONCE THEY DO THIS WORK.

SO IT'S NOT OURS UNTIL THE YEAR AFTER THEY FINISH IT.

SO FROM OUR STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DON'T BECOME OURS UNTIL THE YEAR AFTER IT'S FINISHED.

OUR FRUSTRATION IS DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC WHO ARE LIVING OUT THERE, WHO ARE HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, LIVE IN THIS FINISHED CONDITION. AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE PAID FOR THAT AMENITY.

SO. AND I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS PART, BUT WHAT WAS THE REASON WHY THE DEVELOPER HADN'T FINISHED?

[01:20:06]

THEY SAID THEY HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN ONE AS WHAT I FEEL LIKE.

I'M SORRY. NO. HOW COME THE. I MEAN, THE DEVELOPER KNOWS THE WORK HAS TO BE DONE.

IS THERE A REASON WHY, AFTER FOUR YEARS OR IS THE DEVELOPER HERE OR.

OH, THERE WE GO. YEAH, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER IT.

YOU GOT A STRAIGHT MAN. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

WE JUST THIS IS A STONE MARTEN DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM.

AND SO WE'RE THE ENGINEERS. AND SO WE MANAGE THAT PART OF IT.

BUT I GUESS THEY HADN'T GOTTEN ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OUT THERE.

ELSE THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE HOPPED ON THIS AND FINISHED IT.

BUT WE CAN FINISH THIS IN THREE MONTHS EASY. AND SO WE JUST ASK Y'ALL TO GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE STILL DON'T HAVE A DEFINITE REASON WHY IT WASN'T COMPLETED.

LIKE. NOT REALLY. I MEAN YOU KNOW, WE JUST WE DON'T LIKE THE DEVELOPER.

I MEAN, THE HOUSE BUILDER DOESN'T LIKE TO FINISH THINGS, PUT THE WEARING SURFACE ON UNTIL IT'S FULLY BUILT OUT.

AND I THINK I THERE MAY BE 1 OR 2 LOTS OUT THERE THAT STILL AREN'T BUILT OUT, BUT WE DO LIKE TO WAIT.

NOW, THIS ONE'S JUST GONE ON A LONG TIME, BUT.

SO I WOULDN'T SAY THERE'S A REASON IT HASN'T BEEN FINISHED.

IT JUST HASN'T. BUT WE, WE'LL, WE'LL HOP ON IT AND FINISH THE PUNCH LIST.

AND WE JUST GOT THE PUNCH LIST. APRIL 22ND. I THINK SO.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS.

IF IF AN EXTENSION IS GRANTED, DOES THAT START ON JUNE 23RD OR TODAY? DID ANYBODY TRY TO EXTEND THE FOUR YEAR TIMELINE? SO JUNE 22ND WAS PERFECT. SEPTEMBER. OKAY. YEAH.

I'M I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN THIS SITUATION AND LET'S JUST LET'S JUST GET HER DONE.

BUT IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE USEFUL.

SO I MOVE TO APPROVE CASE WZ2026004. SUBDIVISION BOND EXTENSION FOR HOW LONG? FOR THREE MONTHS. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR 90 DAYS SLASH THREE MONTH EXTENSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ON TO OUR LAST TWO CASES FOR THE NIGHT.

[11. Waiver – Cabrall Subdivision Waiver Request – PUBLIC HEARING]

SO THIS IS ANOTHER WAIVER REQUEST. THIS IS FROM THE APPLICANT DOLORES OGLETREE.

THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW SUBDIVISION REGULATION LOTS CONTAINING LESS THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED ONE ACRE FOR LOTS OUTSIDE THE AUBURN CITY LIMITS, BUT WITHIN THE PLANNING JURISDICTION. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 189 LEE ROAD 667.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WE'RE PRETTY FAR OUT WEST, I BELIEVE.

HERE'S MLK DRIVE AT THE TOP OVER HERE. I THINK THIS MIGHT BE BEEHIVE ROAD.

IT'S NOT REALLY LABELED. THIS VIDEO, AS YOU CAN SEE, WELL OUTSIDE AUBURN CITY LIMITS, BUT IT IS KIND OF TOUCHING THE PLAINTIFF'S JURISDICTION.

SO ALL RIGHT. SO THE DISCUSSION AROUND THIS WAIVER REQUEST IS THAT WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR A SUBDIVISION PLAT TO COME IN.

AND WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IS THEY'RE WANTING TO SUBDIVIDE A TWO ACRE LOT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.

SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLAT. IF IT WERE TO COME IN RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A LINE DRAWN FROM THE TOP TO BOTTOM THAT WOULD DIVIDE THE TWO ACRE LOT INTO ABOUT ONE ACRE EACH, SO IT WOULD WORK JUST FINE.

NOW, WHERE WE RUN INTO SOME ISSUES IS WHERE IT'S NOT AN ISSUE, BUT LEE COUNTY IS WANTING TO REQUEST 30FT OF RIGHT OF WAY FROM THE CENTER LINE OF LEE ROAD 667, WHICH WOULD TAKE ABOUT THIS AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AWAY FROM THESE TWO LOTS.

IF THEY WERE TO BE SUBDIVIDED, GETTING THEM DOWN TO ABOUT 0.98 ACRES.

SO THIS IS WHY THE WAIVER IS BEING REQUESTED TO ALLOW THAT.

AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. SUBDIVISION WAIVER REQUEST IS IT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO I'LL OPEN THAT AT THIS TIME. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

SEEING NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING UP? OH. I'M SORRY. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN.

I'M SORRY. I DID NOT SEE YOU MAKE A MOVE, I GOT YOU.

[01:25:02]

I'M THE ONE REQUESTING THIS SUBDIVISION. THE WITH THIS SUBDIVISION.

WITH WHAT? LEE COUNTY IS WANTING TO DO YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS CADE CABRAL AND I LIVE AT 2155 WEDGEWOOD COURT, AUBURN, ALABAMA.

WITH THIS SUBDIVISION THAT LEE COUNTY OR THAT I'M REQUESTING AND THAT WHAT LEE COUNTY IS REQUESTING, IT WILL ONLY TAKE ABOUT 675FT² FROM THE LOT WHERE WE WILL BE SITTING ON.

AND LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, WILL BE DROPPED DOWN FROM ONE ACRE TO 0.98.

THE THE WOMAN THAT IS SELLING THIS PROPERTY, HER FATHER, SHE'S INHERITED THIS PROPERTY.

HER FATHER HAD SUBDIVIDED ABOUT SEVEN LOTS IN THAT AREA, AND HE.

WE WERE MIND BLOWN AWAY WHEN WE RECEIVED. WE WERE EACH THREE SQUARE FEET ABOVE THE ONE ACRE REQUESTED.

SO WE WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, GOD'S BLESSED OUR EFFORTS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR ME TO MENTION ANYTHING.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. BUT THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. PLEASE SIGN IN. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN.

AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONERS MOVE TO APPROVE WZ2026005.

SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

SO THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ALSO A WAIVER REQUEST.

[12. Waiver – Johnston Hays – PUBLIC HEARING]

THIS IS A REQUEST FROM JOHNSTON HAYES, LLC. THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW SUBDIVISION REGULATION LOTS CONTAINING LESS THAN THE REQUIRED THREE ACRES FOR LOTS OUTSIDE THE AUBURN CITY LIMITS, BUT WITHIN THE PLANNING JURISDICTION, AS WELL AS THE OPTIMUM BOUNDARY.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THIS INTERSECTION OF LEE ROAD 19 AND LEE ROAD 20.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAP HERE, WE'RE ABOUT, I THINK AT THE VERY NORTH OF THIS MAP IS THE GREENS APARTMENTS OFF OF SANDHILL AND SOUTH COLLEGE. SO THE PROPERTY HERE IS JUST SOUTH OF THAT.

AT THIS INTERSECTION. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS DISCUSSION REGARDING THE WAIVER REQUEST IS THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SUBDIVIDE A PARCEL OF LAND INTO THREE DISTINCT LOTS. NOW TWO OF THE THREE LOTS MEET THE DISTINCT THREE ACRE LOT MINIMUM THAT WE REQUIRE WITHIN THE BOUNDARY AS WELL AS WELL AS THE PLANNING JURISDICTION. BUT NOW YOU CAN SEE HERE, I KNOW THERE'S NOT REALLY A ZOOM IN FEATURE, BUT LOT THREE, IF THIS WAS ALLOWED, THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLOT WOULD BE 2.96 ACRES.

BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THIS HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW AREA IS A EASEMENT THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE AUBURN CITY COUNCIL MARCH 17TH, 2026 TO DEDICATE 30FT OF RIGHT AWAY FROM THAT CENTER LINE OF LEE ROAD 19.

SO DOING SO IS GOING TO MAKE THAT LOT THREE 0.4 OR 0.04 ACRES UNDER THE MINIMUM.

SO AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. THIS DOES REQUIRE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. AT THIS TIME. SEEING NO ONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONERS.

MOVE TO APPROVE WZ2026006. SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS?

[OTHER BUSINESS ]

YES. SO IF WE COULD JUST GO BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR STORAGE AND JUST KIND OF.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF WE ADOPTED IT WITH THE CONDITIONS. I THINK WE JUST.

YEAH. I MAKE I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. YEAH. SO JUST MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THAT ITEM AND THEN MAKE A MOTION TO THEN ADD THE CONDITIONS.

AND THEN LIKE I JUST MAKE THE MOTION THEN WITH THE CONDITIONS.

SO RECONSIDER AND THEN MAKE THE MOTION WITH CONDITIONS. I NEED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER CU2026022.

SO MOVED. SECOND. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. SO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM TO APPROVE IS CU2026022.

CONDITIONAL USE CONDITIONS. YES. WITH CONDITIONS.

MAKE THE MOTION WITH CONDITIONS TO APPROVE KQ 2026 DASH 022 SECOND.

YEP. AND THOSE MOTIONS AND THOSE CONDITIONS WERE NO.

IT WAS GOING TO BE NO RESIDENTIAL INHABITANTS.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T THINK I REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

[CHAIRMAN’S COMMUNICATION ]

[01:30:01]

I THINK I INTRODUCED A NEW PRINCIPAL PLANNER ON MONDAY.

THIS IS HER FIRST MEETING WITH US. I THINK THE OTHER THING I SAID, I'LL, I'LL HAVE JUST KIND OF UPDATES, JUST KIND OF THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER FOR YOU ALL. JUST KIND OF AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH SOME OF THE ZONING STUFF, I GUESS THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT WE ARE BREAKING OUT THE MORATORIUM ZONING DISTRICTS. SO YOU AND W AND URBAN CORE THOSE ARE ONES THAT WE ARE FAST TRACKING, REALLY TRYING TO GET ANSWERS ON.

AND SO AS WE COME UP WITH DEVELOPMENTS, I WILL HAVE INFORMATION FOR Y'ALL.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEE?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.